Idol Worship 3/8- well b4 that... p2

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Surya,

We all have said that we do agree to such concepts and do our bit along with the family's dharma as a Grihastha and as u quote too many scriptures u may remember the episode where Karthikeya d Ganesha were asked to go to all Punya kshetras, nadhis and have a dip and the one who comes first will be given.... Kartikeya took off in a flash and was sure he will win and poor Mushika Vahana and heavy weight Ganesha was dumbstruck but still managed with some prodding for Sage Narada to circumbulate his parents 3 times and as he was doing this Karitkeya was able to see Ganesha dip in each kshetra earlier than him, as service to parents the premier Guru,s devathas was highest.

similarly in Ramayana you will find Sravana taking care of his blind parents and also in a pilgrimage how Dasharatha killed him by mistake etc.. does this mean family bonds have no value only renouncing the way there is a middle path for all and each life as we progress the accumulated goodness, selflessness, sacrifices etc will move our soul closer to improve our chances of what u r also saying by and who acquire wealth by honest effort and sill are affluent, do make social contributions are not Tattas, Birlas, Narayana Myrthys' Bill gates, Time Warner not involved in giving back to nature, society?

and people who aggrandize, usurp, cheat, swindle, loot, amass wealth are a different kind, and they can go down the Jivana chakra and may be born in leaser levels next time and may be become insects, animals or whatever.

but there is an effort surely by Grhastas also and this forum for astrologers are sure in that stream you need to focus your self in materialistic and aggrandizers sites your are at he wrong place and ant the wrong time.... shift and enlighten others here please read charts for the numerous suffering members.

I do disagree with the treatment some give u as it is more a frustration that u are harassing us in the wrong area, as said please move to materialistic sites.

good luck

 

surya <dattapr2000 > wrote: dear friend Bhaskarji

First of all i want to appologise for the mistake committed by me (i

added that line 'meditation was not preached by Lord Krishna in

Gita'in swamiji's message. hence, mistake is mine only.

I want to reply to your objections raised regarding the 'karma phala

tyaga'.

Message of swamiji:

The scriptures say that your sacrifice of money is highest.

1)In the very beginning itself (second Adhyaya), Gita says that the

fruit of the work must be sacrificed (Karmajam Buddhi Yuktahi Phalam

Tyaktva Maneeshinah...). This means that realized scholars sacrifice

the fruit of the work. Gita keeps sacrifice of the fruit of the work

on the top most level. Gita says `Jnanat dhyanam visishyate, Dhyanat

Karma Phala Tyagah' i.e., Bhakti (devotion) is better than Jnana

(knowledge) and sacrificing the fruit of your work (money) is better

than Bakthi.

2)Gita says `Sarva karma Phala tyagam', `prahuh tyagam vichakshanah'

i.e., if you can give the fruit of the entire work to the Lord, then

that is real sacrifice.

3)`Na karmana, Na prajaya, Dhanena tyagenaike Amritatvamaanasuh'

i.e., you cannot attain God by selfish work or the children. You

can attain God only by sacrificing your money for God's work. – The

Veda

4)The first words of the first Upanishath (Easavaasyam) says, `Tena

tyaktena Bhunjeedah' `Ma gradha ha kasyasvit Dhanam' i.e., this

entire world is the money of the Lord. Take whatever you require

from His wealth; don't take extra which is not permitted by the

God. If you have taken, you are a thief. Return it back to the

Lord.

5)Veda says `Samvidha' `Shraddhayaa' `Hriya' `Bhiya dheyam', i.e.,

return the extra to the Lord in human form after recognizing Him

through His Jnana. Wait patiently till you recognize the Lord in

human form. When you are donating your money to Him (actually you

are giving Him His own money) you should give it with fear and feel

shy.

6)In Yoga Vasistha the Guru Vasista says to Rama (Dhanamarjaya)

i.e., bring money and offer it to me as Guru Dakshina before I can

teach you the Jnana.

Shirdi Sai used to ask Guru Dakshina from everybody to teach this

important sacrifice. He criticized a merchant who came for Brahma

Jnana but was not giving even Rs.5/- from his pocket. Mr. Patil, a

farmer used to donate the entire yearly crop to Baba and took back

whatever Baba gave back to him.

Jesus in Bible:

Matthew–6 : 19 to 22

"Do not Lay up for yourselves, treasures on earth. But lay up for

yourselves treasures in heaven. For where your treasure is there

your heart will be also".

Matthew -7: 21

"Not everyone who say to Me, `Lord, Lord' shall enter the kingdom of

heaven, but He who does the will of My Father in Heaven".

Holy Islam speaks about the sacrifice of fruit of work (money)

through the word `Jakaat'. This word says that every rich man is

expected to practice the sacrifice within the limit of his wealth.

Islam says that people are loving too much the money (Q'ran:

AalFajr – 20). Islam says that by sacrifice of money your wealth

will not decrease and in fact your wealth increases by sacrifice.

Islam also mentions that by sacrifice of money your wealth becomes

most pure.

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

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"bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

> You Idiot disgrace on human society,

> I had enough of Your nonsense.Only i paragraphi I have read as I

dont want to read rest obscene rubbish. You rascal third grade

creature abhorrable born to be kicked by pigs of the dirtiest

gutter, what Do You mean by saying Lord Krishna did not say this or

that. Are You secretary of Lord Krishna? Enough of lenience I had on

You and Your donghi swami.

> You dirtiest lost soul of the dark, read properly Chapter 6,of

Gita, Slokas 11,12,13, 14 15,17,46. and then talk.

> You dirtiest rat, next time You come on this Forum I will have no

> choice but to put You and Your swami behind bars, for distorting

religion and twisting the scriptures. And mind You. I can do it.

> I have the connections till the highest in the government

including the police in Your state.I will not spare You. This is the

last warning. Dont appear again or else I will have You both beaten

and put for the rest of Your lives behind bars, You rascals.

> Bhaskar.

 

 

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