Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji Proxy asking for jyotish questions are someway related like the following joke where wife is asking the doctor: ** A man and his wife entered a dentist's office. The wife said, "I want a tooth pulled. I don't want gas or Novocain because I'm in a terrible hurry. Just pull the tooth as quickly as possible." "You're a brave woman," said the dentist. "Now, show me which tooth it is." The wife turns to her husband and says: "Open your mouth and show the dentist which tooth it is, dear." **** You raised a very valid issue and specially for confidentially purposes too, proxy asking must be discouraged (exceptional circumstances are acceptable). regards / Prafulla Gang Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Dear Prafullaji, That was a good one. Actually anyone can take a new membership anytime under any name and ask questions. Whether genuine native is asking or some astrologer is asking on his behalf, God knows, whether some prankster is asking to create trouble God knows, if we are going to use astro knowledge evrytime to check whether enquiry is coming truly from the real person in need or from proxy, it is going to be a sheer waste of time and waste of knowledge for third grade issues.But this issue has to be addressed. I have decided to ask any one mailing me personally in future to give his identity, phone nos, etc. plus requesting him to call me on phone, so that half time wasted in this would be cleared and also greater percentage of genuine enquiries could be replied. This is the reason why I am not active on many Forums. Life is only one, Day is small, working hours are still smaller, better to put to good use and utility .I may ask for hefty amount too from people who put in lots of questions so that they will only response if genuine. Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Proxy asking for jyotish questions are someway related like the following joke where wife is asking the doctor: > > ** > A man and his wife entered a dentist's office. > > The wife said, "I want a tooth pulled. I don't want gas or Novocain because I'm in a terrible hurry. Just pull the tooth as quickly as possible." > > "You're a brave woman," said the dentist. "Now, show me which tooth it is." > > The wife turns to her husband and says: "Open your mouth and show the dentist which tooth it is, dear." > > **** > > You raised a very valid issue and specially for confidentially purposes too, proxy asking must be discouraged (exceptional circumstances are acceptable). > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Dear members, Proxy questioning is sometimes resorted due to reluctance of the native to jyotish because of depression/dejection in life or because of lack of computer literacy,fear of native from exposure due to unavoidable circumstances,illness etc.Even I've taken help of Sri Vattem Krishnanji and Sri Pundit Arjunji in case of my niece and later on apologised to them and personally wrote to pundit Arjunji the circumstances that warranted for such a reading. regards Srinivas bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Prafullaji, That was a good one. Actually anyone can take a new membership anytime under any name and ask questions. Whether genuine native is asking or some astrologer is asking on his behalf, God knows, whether some prankster is asking to create trouble God knows, if we are going to use astro knowledge evrytime to check whether enquiry is coming truly from the real person in need or from proxy, it is going to be a sheer waste of time and waste of knowledge for third grade issues.But this issue has to be addressed. I have decided to ask any one mailing me personally in future to give his identity, phone nos, etc. plus requesting him to call me on phone, so that half time wasted in this would be cleared and also greater percentage of genuine enquiries could be replied. This is the reason why I am not active on many Forums. Life is only one, Day is small, working hours are still smaller, better to put to good use and utility .I may ask for hefty amount too from people who put in lots of questions so that they will only response if genuine. Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Proxy asking for jyotish questions are someway related like the following joke where wife is asking the doctor: > > ** > A man and his wife entered a dentist's office. > > The wife said, "I want a tooth pulled. I don't want gas or Novocain because I'm in a terrible hurry. Just pull the tooth as quickly as possible." > > "You're a brave woman," said the dentist. "Now, show me which tooth it is." > > The wife turns to her husband and says: "Open your mouth and show the dentist which tooth it is, dear." > > **** > > You raised a very valid issue and specially for confidentially purposes too, proxy asking must be discouraged (exceptional circumstances are acceptable). > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations. > See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji You have raised very subjective issues. I am normally not inclined to get into chart reading / remedial issues for my own lack of predictive abilities and as well for professional engagements. Yes, discussing technical issues is alright for me. Strictly personally speaking, I dumpt to spam - if I see reading requests in multiple forums. If the person does not have patience / trust on astrologer, perhaps he does not deserve the readings. Yes, you may opt for various options to filter serious requests / casual requests. Primarily, these can be judiciously filtered through the questions raised, seriousness of the problem etc. Though, i am not into commercial readings - but yes, charging them fee can be another filter. I do not encourage telephonic calls, as this normally diverts my working to non serious(rather less relevant) issues. Generally, I do not prefer to share my personal contact details - esp for reading requests. regards / Prafulla Gang Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:54:32 -0000 > > Re: proxy asking for readings / remedies > > Dear Prafullaji, > > That was a good one. Actually anyone can take a new membership > anytime under any name and ask questions. Whether genuine native is > asking or some astrologer is asking on his behalf, God knows, > whether some prankster is asking to create trouble God knows, > if we are going to use astro knowledge evrytime to check whether > enquiry is coming truly from the real person in need or from > proxy, it is going to be a sheer waste of time and waste of knowledge > for third grade issues.But this issue has to be addressed. > I have decided to ask any one mailing me personally in future > to give his identity, phone nos, etc. plus requesting him to call me > on phone, so that half time wasted in this would be cleared > and also greater percentage of genuine enquiries could be replied. > This is the reason why I am not active on many Forums. > Life is only one, Day is small, working hours are still smaller, > better to put to good use and utility .I may ask for hefty amount > too from people who put in lots of questions so that they will only > response if genuine. > > Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji >> >> Proxy asking for jyotish questions are someway related like the > following joke where wife is asking the doctor: >> >> ** >> A man and his wife entered a dentist's office. >> >> The wife said, "I want a tooth pulled. I don't want gas or Novocain > because I'm in a terrible hurry. Just pull the tooth as quickly as > possible." >> >> "You're a brave woman," said the dentist. "Now, show me which tooth > it is." >> >> The wife turns to her husband and says: "Open your mouth and show > the dentist which tooth it is, dear." >> >> **** >> >> You raised a very valid issue and specially for confidentially > purposes too, proxy asking must be discouraged (exceptional > circumstances are acceptable). >> >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more > instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual > and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and > sudden usurpations. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Dear Srinivas ji Exceptional circumstances are always there to deal with. Please read my statement in view of normal circumstances. Perhaps, health is the only subject where, proxy asking is always acceptable. On many questions like love affair, job etc, there can be misuse of information. regards / Prafulla Gang Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations. > > smadavi > Wed, 2 Aug 2006 06:05:40 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: Re: proxy asking for readings / remedies > > Dear members, > Proxy questioning is sometimes resorted due to reluctance of the native > to jyotish because of depression/dejection in life or because of lack of > computer literacy,fear of native from exposure due to unavoidable > circumstances,illness etc.Even I've taken help of Sri Vattem Krishnanji > and Sri Pundit Arjunji in case of my niece and later on apologised to > them and personally wrote to pundit Arjunji the circumstances that > warranted for such a reading. > regards > Srinivas > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Dear Prafullaji, > > That was a good one. Actually anyone can take a new membership > anytime under any name and ask questions. Whether genuine native is > asking or some astrologer is asking on his behalf, God knows, > whether some prankster is asking to create trouble God knows, > if we are going to use astro knowledge evrytime to check whether > enquiry is coming truly from the real person in need or from > proxy, it is going to be a sheer waste of time and waste of knowledge > for third grade issues.But this issue has to be addressed. > I have decided to ask any one mailing me personally in future > to give his identity, phone nos, etc. plus requesting him to call me > on phone, so that half time wasted in this would be cleared > and also greater percentage of genuine enquiries could be replied. > This is the reason why I am not active on many Forums. > Life is only one, Day is small, working hours are still smaller, > better to put to good use and utility .I may ask for hefty amount > too from people who put in lots of questions so that they will only > response if genuine. > > Bhaskar. > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji >> >> Proxy asking for jyotish questions are someway related like the > following joke where wife is asking the doctor: >> >> ** >> A man and his wife entered a dentist's office. >> >> The wife said, "I want a tooth pulled. I don't want gas or Novocain > because I'm in a terrible hurry. Just pull the tooth as quickly as > possible." >> >> "You're a brave woman," said the dentist. "Now, show me which tooth > it is." >> >> The wife turns to her husband and says: "Open your mouth and show > the dentist which tooth it is, dear." >> >> **** >> >> You raised a very valid issue and specially for confidentially > purposes too, proxy asking must be discouraged (exceptional > circumstances are acceptable). >> >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more > instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual > and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and > sudden usurpations. >> > > > > > > > > See the all-new, redesigned .com. Check it out. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Dear Prafullji, You have given humble and innocent reasons for not predicting which I believe partly and partly not. Official engagements yes, but not lack .......... I have seen your descriptive postings and analysis on board, so no reason that You cannot.......... Another point, we all have our own set scales of knowledge which if we do not reach ,we may call it as in-complete knowledge, but even if we reach these scales or milestones we would further extend it and this process continues till end of life. And it should continue too if we have to improve. No one can say that he knows all of any subject, except for God. Therefore predective ability is a relative term and its in the eyes of the beholder what counts more. Another thing You may not give Your nos. etc. or ids to people who may trouble You. You may have alternate sources of income. But what about others who also have some portion to earn from here. Agar ghoda ghaas se dosti karega to khayega kya, parantu, agar woh ghas ko bhagayega ya khud door bhagega to bhi khayega kya....... So again this is a relative perspective for individuals. Regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > You have raised very subjective issues. I am normally not inclined to get into chart reading / remedial issues for my own lack of predictive abilities and as well for professional engagements. Yes, discussing technical issues is alright for me. > > Strictly personally speaking, I dumpt to spam - if I see reading requests in multiple forums. If the person does not have patience / trust on astrologer, perhaps he does not deserve the readings. Yes, you may opt for various options to filter serious requests / casual requests. Primarily, these can be judiciously filtered through the questions raised, seriousness of the problem etc. Though, i am not into commercial readings - but yes, charging them fee can be another filter. I do not encourage telephonic calls, as this normally diverts my working to non serious(rather less relevant) issues. Generally, I do not prefer to share my personal contact details - esp for reading requests. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations. > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:54:32 -0000 > > > > Re: proxy asking for readings / remedies > > > > Dear Prafullaji, > > > > That was a good one. Actually anyone can take a new membership > > anytime under any name and ask questions. Whether genuine native is > > asking or some astrologer is asking on his behalf, God knows, > > whether some prankster is asking to create trouble God knows, > > if we are going to use astro knowledge evrytime to check whether > > enquiry is coming truly from the real person in need or from > > proxy, it is going to be a sheer waste of time and waste of knowledge > > for third grade issues.But this issue has to be addressed. > > I have decided to ask any one mailing me personally in future > > to give his identity, phone nos, etc. plus requesting him to call me > > on phone, so that half time wasted in this would be cleared > > and also greater percentage of genuine enquiries could be replied. > > This is the reason why I am not active on many Forums. > > Life is only one, Day is small, working hours are still smaller, > > better to put to good use and utility .I may ask for hefty amount > > too from people who put in lots of questions so that they will only > > response if genuine. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji > >> > >> Proxy asking for jyotish questions are someway related like the > > following joke where wife is asking the doctor: > >> > >> ** > >> A man and his wife entered a dentist's office. > >> > >> The wife said, "I want a tooth pulled. I don't want gas or Novocain > > because I'm in a terrible hurry. Just pull the tooth as quickly as > > possible." > >> > >> "You're a brave woman," said the dentist. "Now, show me which tooth > > it is." > >> > >> The wife turns to her husband and says: "Open your mouth and show > > the dentist which tooth it is, dear." > >> > >> **** > >> > >> You raised a very valid issue and specially for confidentially > > purposes too, proxy asking must be discouraged (exceptional > > circumstances are acceptable). > >> > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more > > instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual > > and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and > > sudden usurpations. > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji I agree. That is why, I posted in my mail as strictly personal ones. Also, I mentioned about highly subjective attribute. Yes, professional astrologers must post their mails, with their contact details (like web url / tel nos / chat id). I always have been comfortable (rather vocal) on this issue on most discussion groups. regards / Prafulla Gang Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and sudden usurpations. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:07:07 -0000 > > Re: proxy asking for readings / remedies > > > Dear Prafullji, > > You have given humble and innocent reasons for not predicting which I > believe partly and partly not. > Official engagements yes, but not lack .......... I have seen your > descriptive postings > and analysis on board, so no reason that You cannot.......... > > Another point, we all have our own set scales of knowledge which if > we do not reach ,we may call > it as in-complete knowledge, but even if we reach these scales or > milestones > we would further extend it and this process continues till end of > life. And it should continue too > if we have to improve. No one can say that he knows all of any > subject, except for God. > Therefore predective ability is a relative term and its in the eyes > of the beholder what counts more. > > Another thing You may not give Your nos. etc. or ids to people who > may trouble You. > You may have alternate sources of income. But what about others who > also have some > portion to earn from here. > Agar ghoda ghaas se dosti karega to khayega kya, > parantu, > agar woh ghas ko bhagayega ya khud door bhagega to bhi khayega > kya....... > > So again this is a relative perspective for individuals. > > Regards, > Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji >> >> You have raised very subjective issues. I am normally not inclined > to get into chart reading / remedial issues for my own lack of > predictive abilities and as well for professional engagements. Yes, > discussing technical issues is alright for me. >> >> Strictly personally speaking, I dumpt to spam - if I see reading > requests in multiple forums. If the person does not have patience / > trust on astrologer, perhaps he does not deserve the readings. Yes, > you may opt for various options to filter serious requests / casual > requests. Primarily, these can be judiciously filtered through the > questions raised, seriousness of the problem etc. Though, i am not > into commercial readings - but yes, charging them fee can be another > filter. I do not encourage telephonic calls, as this normally diverts > my working to non serious(rather less relevant) issues. Generally, I > do not prefer to share my personal contact details - esp for reading > requests. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more > instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by gradual > and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and > sudden usurpations. >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:54:32 -0000 >>> >>> Re: proxy asking for readings / remedies >>> >>> Dear Prafullaji, >>> >>> That was a good one. Actually anyone can take a new membership >>> anytime under any name and ask questions. Whether genuine native > is >>> asking or some astrologer is asking on his behalf, God knows, >>> whether some prankster is asking to create trouble God knows, >>> if we are going to use astro knowledge evrytime to check whether >>> enquiry is coming truly from the real person in need or from >>> proxy, it is going to be a sheer waste of time and waste of > knowledge >>> for third grade issues.But this issue has to be addressed. >>> I have decided to ask any one mailing me personally in future >>> to give his identity, phone nos, etc. plus requesting him to call > me >>> on phone, so that half time wasted in this would be cleared >>> and also greater percentage of genuine enquiries could be replied. >>> This is the reason why I am not active on many Forums. >>> Life is only one, Day is small, working hours are still smaller, >>> better to put to good use and utility .I may ask for hefty amount >>> too from people who put in lots of questions so that they will > only >>> response if genuine. >>> >>> Bhaskar. >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Bhaskar ji >>>> >>>> Proxy asking for jyotish questions are someway related like the >>> following joke where wife is asking the doctor: >>>> >>>> ** >>>> A man and his wife entered a dentist's office. >>>> >>>> The wife said, "I want a tooth pulled. I don't want gas or > Novocain >>> because I'm in a terrible hurry. Just pull the tooth as quickly as >>> possible." >>>> >>>> "You're a brave woman," said the dentist. "Now, show me which > tooth >>> it is." >>>> >>>> The wife turns to her husband and says: "Open your mouth and show >>> the dentist which tooth it is, dear." >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> You raised a very valid issue and specially for confidentially >>> purposes too, proxy asking must be discouraged (exceptional >>> circumstances are acceptable). >>>> >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are > more >>> instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people, by > gradual >>> and silent encroachments of those in power, than by violent and >>> sudden usurpations. >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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