Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 ll HARE RAM ll Dear Mr.Prafulla, I know a family live at my native place.The members of this family give ten rotis minimum to street dogs daily in early hours without any break till today while now the third generation has come but there is no arguement regarding this habit.If some one do ask them about the same,they give very simple answer"As we got some others as ancestral property so as we got the same like that.We do not know or do not want to know what we are getting to do this but we know this is a good karma.That's all.Is this wrong thinking? God Bless Shashie Shekhar Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji You have narrated beautifully the purpose and true rationale of any remedial measure. If any remedial measure fails to invoke surrender (ofcourse without ego), then it may not work. Even while, feeding dogs, I am tested on the similiar incidents. and Let me confess you, couple of times, when I was arrogant with dogs, I suffered. We need to understand the essense of the remedial measure. Ranjan ji, you raised a very valid point. It is the donation of gems, which are prescribed in the texts. However, in modern times - astrologers do recommend gems (perhaps based upon their experiences). Can gems match the karmic balances!! regards / Prafulla Gang To fear love is to fear life, and those who fear life are already three parts dead. > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:23:55 -0000 > > Re: A question about the philosophy behind wearing > gemstones! > > Bharat Bhai, > > This being a public Forum, excuse me for coming in. But coming > to support views only. > Yes,giving minus ego is going to give the best results, and > actually benefic results. > My own example- A year back,every Saturday for few saturdays I > continued giving food packets to poor people outside temple. > The intentions were good, no ego was there,initially, maybe not > afterwards too, but what happened.... > Ever Saturday when reaching temple all poor people,children > used to croud around me before I could enter the temple, > waiting for me to open my bag. This happened again for couple of > Saturdays. Eventually going to temple for darshan became secondary, > but this crowding around me starting giving me a high, and the > result of course was unintended Ego boosting., and > when next Saturday approached again the high used to occur. > When I realised what was happening to me , I immediately > stopped giving a single packet, suffered for few saturdays, > when could not give anything to these poor,but my decesion > was firm, I was not going to allow the Ego to overcome, > and now the state is such that when I go to the temple no > one knows me,or know that nothing will come from here, > except for a old lady beggar who acknowledges me sweetly, > and I too sweetly part with Rs. 1 or 2- No ego feeding > more than that I allow myself. Not that she would care > for this paltry sum, but affections develop. > > So what You mentioned I agree. > > Regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" > wrote: >> >> Namaskaar Sri Rohini >> >> This is a question that bothered me for a long time. The resolution > of the >> same may not come completely unless we have a method of finding out > the >> exact effects of gemstones. There is currently no scientific > instrument to >> do so, atleast to my know-how. >> >> You may still read the following: >> One wears a gemstone of a particular planet to increase its energy > upon >> oneself. This is generally the unquestioned belief. Some believe > that the >> Gemstone is pervaded by a deity. Some believe that the light given > out >> appeases the graha (as you are aware an Emerald gives out Green > Light and >> therefore, appeases the graha). Some believe that the gemstone > alters the >> aura (read pranas) and therefore, benefits us. I am sure there will > be more >> reasons but the important point is that they do have an effect. >> >> Everything in Universe is alive and it has small or big effects on > each one >> of us. Even to an extent, a plant is kept in your room, there will > be a >> profound effect on you. The problem is that one cannot measure its > effects. >> >> Now to your question - Why should we not donate the gemstones for > the >> benefic planets? The logic used here is that one may give what is > due and >> not give what is not due. "Malefic" is a word given to those grahas > which >> are not giving us what we want. Generally the belief is that these > grahas >> act as badhas and pose dangers to us, because we owe something in > karma to >> their significations. To give what we owe, seems like the correct > thing to >> do. So one gives. >> >> The "benefic" planets are there so because of the karmic giving. > Since that >> is learnt, it is likely to continue whether the gemstone is given > or not. I >> have no reasons to believe that giving a gemstone of a benefic is > going to >> harm the native. >> >> I have very different views upon Giving too. Many may disagree. For > me, >> Giving is "not giving". It should just flow as naturally as > possible. Else, >> giving can give a great boost to ego. Grahas are directing us > towards a >> least resistance "path" to Godhead, we are the ones resisting and > that makes >> for Grahas to be "good or bad". Giving with that ego sense is not > going to >> appease any Graha or lead to a least resistance "path". >> >> I hope I have not added to the confusion. >> >> Thanks and Regards >> Bharat >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 7/31/06, crystal pages wrote: >>> >>> Arjunji, >>> >>> I am attaching my two cents and a question really to your recent >>> posting but that does not mean that I am necessarily asking this >>> question for you to address, primarily. It is a general post and >>> question. All may respond and enlighten me and hopefully other >>> members too. >>> >>> **************** >>> I have asked this before, not just here, and I have looked for >>> directions in classics on jyotish but never really convincingly > found >>> recommendations that wearing a gemstone will fix the problems > posed >>> by a planet or will appease it. The gemstones are mentioned but I >>> always assumed that it was not about 'wearing' those but >>> rather 'donating' those to others. Like rich folks and Kings and >>> Superkings (maharajas and Chakravarthis) did in the glorious past > of >>> India. >>> >>> When did the donation become 'acquisition and wearing'? >>> >>> I think it is an interesting arrangement since no loss or absolute >>> expenditure is involved but rather an investement! All gemstones > are >>> going to inflate in cost and grow in their worth! Something does > not >>> seem right there. >>> >>> Now, I realize there are subtle aspects about vibrations and so on >>> that may play a role into this healing power of gems through > wearing >>> or consuming the pishtis and so on. >>> >>> If donation of a gemstone is truly the way to appease the > planetary >>> deva, perhaps acquisition and wearing is actually going the > opposite >>> way since it is not the loss (12) but gain (11) of the gemstone > and >>> the energies or vibrations it represents. >>> >>> Does this make sense, fellow astrologers? >>> >>> RR >>> >>> > 40>, >>> "panditarjun2004" >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> dear haizen >>>> >>>> vedas and all ancient classics clearly spelt what you mentioned > in >>>> the second that daan is the dharma of kaliyuga and if anyone > wish >>> to >>>> gain punyam (merit) it can be done by daan. >>>> >>>> because of this reason, i slightly disagree with lalkitab where > it >>>> prohibits donation of certain goods saying that by doing so the >>>> concerned planet would become weak. but i personally preach and >>>> practice that any donation or offering does not get any > backlash or >>>> negative reaction. >>>> >>>> with best wishes >>>> pandit arjun >>>> (world wide web is like a mayajaal. everything looks virtually >>>> real, yet unreal). >>>> >>>> >>>> > 40>, "haizen" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello K. Gopu, >>>>> >>>>> I would answer your question in two parts: >>>>> >>>>> (1) The wearing of a gem for the lagna lord is said to >>>>> fortify that planet's ability to handle any aspect from >>>>> an unfavorable planet. But in my view, the malefic >>>>> qualities of an unfavorable planet are not necessarily >>>>> reduced. (Why should they be unless that troublesome >>>>> planet is dealt with directly?) What I believe happens is >>>>> that the lagna lord is better able to handle the challenges >>>>> of the unfavorable planet because it is stronger and works >>>>> more efficiently. But strengthening the lord is only one side >>>>> of the issue. >>>>> >>>>> (2) To directly reduce the troublesome influence of an >>>>> unfavorable planet--a functional malefic or Rahu and Ketu >>>>> --a separate action in the form of charities or propitiations >>>>> are considered helpful according to the nature of the >>>>> unfavorable planet. >>>>> >>>>> Usually Step 1 is done without Step 2, but I consider both >>>>> important and recommend them to the people I work with. >>>>> This is a better way to go because nothing is neglected and >>>>> it's a complete planetary remedy. >>>>> >>>>> These same principles can be applied to the use of mantras >>>>> to strengthen or neutralize planetary energies, or to the use >>>>> of colors, such as wearing more of the favorable ones and >>>>> avoiding those that are unfavorable. Inexpensive gems have >>>>> little or no power, and one shouldn't have to go bankrupt to >>>>> harness the highest frequencies of certain planetary energies >>>>> or to neutralize their harmful effects. >>>>> >>>>> One astrologer's opinion. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, Haizen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> , K Gopu wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> dear Mr.haizen, >>>>>> I am not a gemologist. I read ur mail, I would like to >>>>>> know if the lagna lord is strong by virtue of its >>>>>> being in a favourable house, but if it is aspected by >>>>>> an unfavourable planet( i dont want to use the word >>>>>> malefic planet) then in such a horoscope wearing of >>>>>> the right gemstone may reduce the intensity of the >>>>>> aspect of an unfavourable planet? >>>>>> >>>>>> k.gopu >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > around >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Sharmaji, I don't know about whether this is right thinking or not, but it certainly is a good karma, a nice, compassionate act which results in providing food to the hungry and an act of sharing. , shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro wrote: > > ll HARE RAM ll > Dear Mr.Prafulla, > I know a family live at my native place.The members of this family give ten rotis minimum to street dogs daily in early hours without any break till today while now the third generation has come but there is no arguement regarding this habit.If some one do ask them about the same,they give very simple answer"As we got some others as ancestral property so as we got the same like that.We do not know or do not want to know what we are getting to do this but we know this is a good karma.That's all.Is this > wrong thinking? > > God Bless > Shashie Shekhar > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > Dear Bhaskar ji > > You have narrated beautifully the purpose and true rationale of any remedial measure. If any remedial measure fails to invoke surrender (ofcourse without ego), then it may not work. Even while, feeding dogs, I am tested on the similiar incidents. and Let me confess you, couple of times, when I was arrogant with dogs, I suffered. We need to understand the essense of the remedial measure. > > Ranjan ji, you raised a very valid point. It is the donation of gems, which are prescribed in the texts. However, in modern times - astrologers do recommend gems (perhaps based upon their experiences). Can gems match the karmic balances!! > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > To fear love is to fear life, and those who fear life are already three parts dead. > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:23:55 -0000 > > > > Re: A question about the philosophy behind wearing > > gemstones! > > > > Bharat Bhai, > > > > This being a public Forum, excuse me for coming in. But coming > > to support views only. > > Yes,giving minus ego is going to give the best results, and > > actually benefic results. > > My own example- A year back,every Saturday for few saturdays I > > continued giving food packets to poor people outside temple. > > The intentions were good, no ego was there,initially, maybe not > > afterwards too, but what happened.... > > Ever Saturday when reaching temple all poor people,children > > used to croud around me before I could enter the temple, > > waiting for me to open my bag. This happened again for couple of > > Saturdays. Eventually going to temple for darshan became secondary, > > but this crowding around me starting giving me a high, and the > > result of course was unintended Ego boosting., and > > when next Saturday approached again the high used to occur. > > When I realised what was happening to me , I immediately > > stopped giving a single packet, suffered for few saturdays, > > when could not give anything to these poor,but my decesion > > was firm, I was not going to allow the Ego to overcome, > > and now the state is such that when I go to the temple no > > one knows me,or know that nothing will come from here, > > except for a old lady beggar who acknowledges me sweetly, > > and I too sweetly part with Rs. 1 or 2- No ego feeding > > more than that I allow myself. Not that she would care > > for this paltry sum, but affections develop. > > > > So what You mentioned I agree. > > > > Regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" > > wrote: > >> > >> Namaskaar Sri Rohini > >> > >> This is a question that bothered me for a long time. The resolution > > of the > >> same may not come completely unless we have a method of finding out > > the > >> exact effects of gemstones. There is currently no scientific > > instrument to > >> do so, atleast to my know-how. > >> > >> You may still read the following: > >> One wears a gemstone of a particular planet to increase its energy > > upon > >> oneself. This is generally the unquestioned belief. Some believe > > that the > >> Gemstone is pervaded by a deity. Some believe that the light given > > out > >> appeases the graha (as you are aware an Emerald gives out Green > > Light and > >> therefore, appeases the graha). Some believe that the gemstone > > alters the > >> aura (read pranas) and therefore, benefits us. I am sure there will > > be more > >> reasons but the important point is that they do have an effect. > >> > >> Everything in Universe is alive and it has small or big effects on > > each one > >> of us. Even to an extent, a plant is kept in your room, there will > > be a > >> profound effect on you. The problem is that one cannot measure its > > effects. > >> > >> Now to your question - Why should we not donate the gemstones for > > the > >> benefic planets? The logic used here is that one may give what is > > due and > >> not give what is not due. "Malefic" is a word given to those grahas > > which > >> are not giving us what we want. Generally the belief is that these > > grahas > >> act as badhas and pose dangers to us, because we owe something in > > karma to > >> their significations. To give what we owe, seems like the correct > > thing to > >> do. So one gives. > >> > >> The "benefic" planets are there so because of the karmic giving. > > Since that > >> is learnt, it is likely to continue whether the gemstone is given > > or not. I > >> have no reasons to believe that giving a gemstone of a benefic is > > going to > >> harm the native. > >> > >> I have very different views upon Giving too. Many may disagree. For > > me, > >> Giving is "not giving". It should just flow as naturally as > > possible. Else, > >> giving can give a great boost to ego. Grahas are directing us > > towards a > >> least resistance "path" to Godhead, we are the ones resisting and > > that makes > >> for Grahas to be "good or bad". Giving with that ego sense is not > > going to > >> appease any Graha or lead to a least resistance "path". > >> > >> I hope I have not added to the confusion. > >> > >> Thanks and Regards > >> Bharat > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 7/31/06, crystal pages wrote: > >>> > >>> Arjunji, > >>> > >>> I am attaching my two cents and a question really to your recent > >>> posting but that does not mean that I am necessarily asking this > >>> question for you to address, primarily. It is a general post and > >>> question. All may respond and enlighten me and hopefully other > >>> members too. > >>> > >>> **************** > >>> I have asked this before, not just here, and I have looked for > >>> directions in classics on jyotish but never really convincingly > > found > >>> recommendations that wearing a gemstone will fix the problems > > posed > >>> by a planet or will appease it. The gemstones are mentioned but I > >>> always assumed that it was not about 'wearing' those but > >>> rather 'donating' those to others. Like rich folks and Kings and > >>> Superkings (maharajas and Chakravarthis) did in the glorious past > > of > >>> India. > >>> > >>> When did the donation become 'acquisition and wearing'? > >>> > >>> I think it is an interesting arrangement since no loss or absolute > >>> expenditure is involved but rather an investement! All gemstones > > are > >>> going to inflate in cost and grow in their worth! Something does > > not > >>> seem right there. > >>> > >>> Now, I realize there are subtle aspects about vibrations and so on > >>> that may play a role into this healing power of gems through > > wearing > >>> or consuming the pishtis and so on. > >>> > >>> If donation of a gemstone is truly the way to appease the > > planetary > >>> deva, perhaps acquisition and wearing is actually going the > > opposite > >>> way since it is not the loss (12) but gain (11) of the gemstone > > and > >>> the energies or vibrations it represents. > >>> > >>> Does this make sense, fellow astrologers? > >>> > >>> RR > >>> > >>> > 40>, > >>> "panditarjun2004" > >>> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> dear haizen > >>>> > >>>> vedas and all ancient classics clearly spelt what you mentioned > > in > >>>> the second that daan is the dharma of kaliyuga and if anyone > > wish > >>> to > >>>> gain punyam (merit) it can be done by daan. > >>>> > >>>> because of this reason, i slightly disagree with lalkitab where > > it > >>>> prohibits donation of certain goods saying that by doing so the > >>>> concerned planet would become weak. but i personally preach and > >>>> practice that any donation or offering does not get any > > backlash or > >>>> negative reaction. > >>>> > >>>> with best wishes > >>>> pandit arjun > >>>> (world wide web is like a mayajaal. everything looks virtually > >>>> real, yet unreal). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 40>, "haizen" wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Hello K. Gopu, > >>>>> > >>>>> I would answer your question in two parts: > >>>>> > >>>>> (1) The wearing of a gem for the lagna lord is said to > >>>>> fortify that planet's ability to handle any aspect from > >>>>> an unfavorable planet. But in my view, the malefic > >>>>> qualities of an unfavorable planet are not necessarily > >>>>> reduced. (Why should they be unless that troublesome > >>>>> planet is dealt with directly?) What I believe happens is > >>>>> that the lagna lord is better able to handle the challenges > >>>>> of the unfavorable planet because it is stronger and works > >>>>> more efficiently. But strengthening the lord is only one side > >>>>> of the issue. > >>>>> > >>>>> (2) To directly reduce the troublesome influence of an > >>>>> unfavorable planet--a functional malefic or Rahu and Ketu > >>>>> --a separate action in the form of charities or propitiations > >>>>> are considered helpful according to the nature of the > >>>>> unfavorable planet. > >>>>> > >>>>> Usually Step 1 is done without Step 2, but I consider both > >>>>> important and recommend them to the people I work with. > >>>>> This is a better way to go because nothing is neglected and > >>>>> it's a complete planetary remedy. > >>>>> > >>>>> These same principles can be applied to the use of mantras > >>>>> to strengthen or neutralize planetary energies, or to the use > >>>>> of colors, such as wearing more of the favorable ones and > >>>>> avoiding those that are unfavorable. Inexpensive gems have > >>>>> little or no power, and one shouldn't have to go bankrupt to > >>>>> harness the highest frequencies of certain planetary energies > >>>>> or to neutralize their harmful effects. > >>>>> > >>>>> One astrologer's opinion. > >>>>> > >>>>> Best wishes, Haizen > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> , K Gopu wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> dear Mr.haizen, > >>>>>> I am not a gemologist. I read ur mail, I would like to > >>>>>> know if the lagna lord is strong by virtue of its > >>>>>> being in a favourable house, but if it is aspected by > >>>>>> an unfavourable planet( i dont want to use the word > >>>>>> malefic planet) then in such a horoscope wearing of > >>>>>> the right gemstone may reduce the intensity of the > >>>>>> aspect of an unfavourable planet? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> k.gopu > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > > around > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Prafulla, Didn't you know that the best work can only be done during the night? RR , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Shri Sharma ji / Ranjan ji > > Selfless service is always a good karma. and if any thinking, which directs person to good karma, has to be a good karma. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Lincoln studied by the light of a fireplace. Mozart composed by candlelight. Galileo invented by oil lamp. Didn't they ever think to do their work during the daytime? > > > > > > polite_astro > > Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:13:28 -0700 (PDT) > > , > > Re: Is this wrong thinking? - Prafulla > > > > ll HARE RAM ll > > Dear Mr.Prafulla, > > I know a family live at my native place.The members of this family give > > ten rotis minimum to street dogs daily in early hours without any break > > till today while now the third generation has come but there is no > > arguement regarding this habit.If some one do ask them about the > > same,they give very simple answer"As we got some others as ancestral > > property so as we got the same like that.We do not know or do not want to > > know what we are getting to do this but we know this is a good > > karma.That's all.Is this > > wrong thinking? > > > > God Bless > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > > You have narrated beautifully the purpose and true rationale of any > > remedial measure. If any remedial measure fails to invoke surrender > > (ofcourse without ego), then it may not work. Even while, feeding dogs, I > > am tested on the similiar incidents. and Let me confess you, couple of > > times, when I was arrogant with dogs, I suffered. We need to understand > > the essense of the remedial measure. > > > > Ranjan ji, you raised a very valid point. It is the donation of gems, > > which are prescribed in the texts. However, in modern times - astrologers > > do recommend gems (perhaps based upon their experiences). Can gems match > > the karmic balances!! > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > To fear love is to fear life, and those who fear life are already three > > parts dead. > > > > > >> > >> bhaskar_jyotish > >> Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:23:55 -0000 > >> > >> Re: A question about the philosophy behind wearing > >> gemstones! > >> > >> Bharat Bhai, > >> > >> This being a public Forum, excuse me for coming in. But coming > >> to support views only. > >> Yes,giving minus ego is going to give the best results, and > >> actually benefic results. > >> My own example- A year back,every Saturday for few saturdays I > >> continued giving food packets to poor people outside temple. > >> The intentions were good, no ego was there,initially, maybe not > >> afterwards too, but what happened.... > >> Ever Saturday when reaching temple all poor people,children > >> used to croud around me before I could enter the temple, > >> waiting for me to open my bag. This happened again for couple of > >> Saturdays. Eventually going to temple for darshan became secondary, > >> but this crowding around me starting giving me a high, and the > >> result of course was unintended Ego boosting., and > >> when next Saturday approached again the high used to occur. > >> When I realised what was happening to me , I immediately > >> stopped giving a single packet, suffered for few saturdays, > >> when could not give anything to these poor,but my decesion > >> was firm, I was not going to allow the Ego to overcome, > >> and now the state is such that when I go to the temple no > >> one knows me,or know that nothing will come from here, > >> except for a old lady beggar who acknowledges me sweetly, > >> and I too sweetly part with Rs. 1 or 2- No ego feeding > >> more than that I allow myself. Not that she would care > >> for this paltry sum, but affections develop. > >> > >> So what You mentioned I agree. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Bhaskar. > >> > >> > >> > >> , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Namaskaar Sri Rohini > >>> > >>> This is a question that bothered me for a long time. The resolution > >> of the > >>> same may not come completely unless we have a method of finding out > >> the > >>> exact effects of gemstones. There is currently no scientific > >> instrument to > >>> do so, atleast to my know-how. > >>> > >>> You may still read the following: > >>> One wears a gemstone of a particular planet to increase its energy > >> upon > >>> oneself. This is generally the unquestioned belief. Some believe > >> that the > >>> Gemstone is pervaded by a deity. Some believe that the light given > >> out > >>> appeases the graha (as you are aware an Emerald gives out Green > >> Light and > >>> therefore, appeases the graha). Some believe that the gemstone > >> alters the > >>> aura (read pranas) and therefore, benefits us. I am sure there will > >> be more > >>> reasons but the important point is that they do have an effect. > >>> > >>> Everything in Universe is alive and it has small or big effects on > >> each one > >>> of us. Even to an extent, a plant is kept in your room, there will > >> be a > >>> profound effect on you. The problem is that one cannot measure its > >> effects. > >>> > >>> Now to your question - Why should we not donate the gemstones for > >> the > >>> benefic planets? The logic used here is that one may give what is > >> due and > >>> not give what is not due. "Malefic" is a word given to those grahas > >> which > >>> are not giving us what we want. Generally the belief is that these > >> grahas > >>> act as badhas and pose dangers to us, because we owe something in > >> karma to > >>> their significations. To give what we owe, seems like the correct > >> thing to > >>> do. So one gives. > >>> > >>> The "benefic" planets are there so because of the karmic giving. > >> Since that > >>> is learnt, it is likely to continue whether the gemstone is given > >> or not. I > >>> have no reasons to believe that giving a gemstone of a benefic is > >> going to > >>> harm the native. > >>> > >>> I have very different views upon Giving too. Many may disagree. For > >> me, > >>> Giving is "not giving". It should just flow as naturally as > >> possible. Else, > >>> giving can give a great boost to ego. Grahas are directing us > >> towards a > >>> least resistance "path" to Godhead, we are the ones resisting and > >> that makes > >>> for Grahas to be "good or bad". Giving with that ego sense is not > >> going to > >>> appease any Graha or lead to a least resistance "path". > >>> > >>> I hope I have not added to the confusion. > >>> > >>> Thanks and Regards > >>> Bharat > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 7/31/06, crystal pages wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Arjunji, > >>>> > >>>> I am attaching my two cents and a question really to your recent > >>>> posting but that does not mean that I am necessarily asking this > >>>> question for you to address, primarily. It is a general post and > >>>> question. All may respond and enlighten me and hopefully other > >>>> members too. > >>>> > >>>> **************** > >>>> I have asked this before, not just here, and I have looked for > >>>> directions in classics on jyotish but never really convincingly > >> found > >>>> recommendations that wearing a gemstone will fix the problems > >> posed > >>>> by a planet or will appease it. The gemstones are mentioned but I > >>>> always assumed that it was not about 'wearing' those but > >>>> rather 'donating' those to others. Like rich folks and Kings and > >>>> Superkings (maharajas and Chakravarthis) did in the glorious past > >> of > >>>> India. > >>>> > >>>> When did the donation become 'acquisition and wearing'? > >>>> > >>>> I think it is an interesting arrangement since no loss or absolute > >>>> expenditure is involved but rather an investement! All gemstones > >> are > >>>> going to inflate in cost and grow in their worth! Something does > >> not > >>>> seem right there. > >>>> > >>>> Now, I realize there are subtle aspects about vibrations and so on > >>>> that may play a role into this healing power of gems through > >> wearing > >>>> or consuming the pishtis and so on. > >>>> > >>>> If donation of a gemstone is truly the way to appease the > >> planetary > >>>> deva, perhaps acquisition and wearing is actually going the > >> opposite > >>>> way since it is not the loss (12) but gain (11) of the gemstone > >> and > >>>> the energies or vibrations it represents. > >>>> > >>>> Does this make sense, fellow astrologers? > >>>> > >>>> RR > >>>> > >>>> > 40>, > >>>> "panditarjun2004" > >>>> > > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> dear haizen > >>>>> > >>>>> vedas and all ancient classics clearly spelt what you mentioned > >> in > >>>>> the second that daan is the dharma of kaliyuga and if anyone > >> wish > >>>> to > >>>>> gain punyam (merit) it can be done by daan. > >>>>> > >>>>> because of this reason, i slightly disagree with lalkitab where > >> it > >>>>> prohibits donation of certain goods saying that by doing so the > >>>>> concerned planet would become weak. but i personally preach and > >>>>> practice that any donation or offering does not get any > >> backlash or > >>>>> negative reaction. > >>>>> > >>>>> with best wishes > >>>>> pandit arjun > >>>>> (world wide web is like a mayajaal. everything looks virtually > >>>>> real, yet unreal). > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > 40>, "haizen" > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hello K. Gopu, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I would answer your question in two parts: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (1) The wearing of a gem for the lagna lord is said to > >>>>>> fortify that planet's ability to handle any aspect from > >>>>>> an unfavorable planet. But in my view, the malefic > >>>>>> qualities of an unfavorable planet are not necessarily > >>>>>> reduced. (Why should they be unless that troublesome > >>>>>> planet is dealt with directly?) What I believe happens is > >>>>>> that the lagna lord is better able to handle the challenges > >>>>>> of the unfavorable planet because it is stronger and works > >>>>>> more efficiently. But strengthening the lord is only one side > >>>>>> of the issue. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> (2) To directly reduce the troublesome influence of an > >>>>>> unfavorable planet--a functional malefic or Rahu and Ketu > >>>>>> --a separate action in the form of charities or propitiations > >>>>>> are considered helpful according to the nature of the > >>>>>> unfavorable planet. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Usually Step 1 is done without Step 2, but I consider both > >>>>>> important and recommend them to the people I work with. > >>>>>> This is a better way to go because nothing is neglected and > >>>>>> it's a complete planetary remedy. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> These same principles can be applied to the use of mantras > >>>>>> to strengthen or neutralize planetary energies, or to the use > >>>>>> of colors, such as wearing more of the favorable ones and > >>>>>> avoiding those that are unfavorable. Inexpensive gems have > >>>>>> little or no power, and one shouldn't have to go bankrupt to > >>>>>> harness the highest frequencies of certain planetary energies > >>>>>> or to neutralize their harmful effects. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> One astrologer's opinion. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Best wishes, Haizen > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> , K Gopu wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> dear Mr.haizen, > >>>>>>> I am not a gemologist. I read ur mail, I would like to > >>>>>>> know if the lagna lord is strong by virtue of its > >>>>>>> being in a favourable house, but if it is aspected by > >>>>>>> an unfavourable planet( i dont want to use the word > >>>>>>> malefic planet) then in such a horoscope wearing of > >>>>>>> the right gemstone may reduce the intensity of the > >>>>>>> aspect of an unfavourable planet? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> k.gopu > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > >> around > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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