Yeh hai mera india

[Guest guest]

Dear members

 

as a citizen of a country ( richest in the world just 300 years ago) i

feel proud to disseminate some information on history of this country

which became controversy in the exchanges between Todd and yeshendra

few weeks back. The literature citings by them are yet to come, but

here is a big file which gives in a nutshell almost everything about

India, from Vedas to Missiles. INcluding some topics pointed out by

yeshendra.

 

The file is stored under the name "WatanMeraIndia" and in folder

 

http://health.ayurvedaarticles/Dr.%

20BhateFiles/

 

[Copy the link and paste in browser window for access or use files button on left of screen when at home page of the group, folder 'articles' thereafter, subfolder 'Dr.BhateFiles' thereafter.]

 

Download the file and watch leisurely. From Einstein to Aurobindo, and

Dr. Abdul Kalam to David Frwley, you will find everyone's views there.

 

Dr Bhate

[Guest guest]

> which became controversy in the exchanges between Todd and yeshendra

> few weeks back.

 

Here was the controversy, from my perspective, in summation:

 

1. It was said that eating meat creates mental fear.

2. I rebutted this point, saying there is nothing I have found in

studying Ayurveda that says this is so, and given that fear is a

symptom of vata, and meat is clearly indicated to reduce vata in

Ayurveda, meat should have the opposite effect. I also stated that

this is my experience, that increasing animal products in the diet

has helpful to address symptoms of vata such as anxiety and fear.

 

3. The original point then shifted, and it was put forward that meat

is not sattvic, and therefore clouds the mind, makes it dull, and

inhibits one's capacity to be a spiritual practitioner.

4. I agreed on the point that this is a common belief, but it is not

found in Ayurveda per se, and nor is it necessarily an important

consideration for every person or necessarily supported by every

spiritual tradition in India. I also stated that outside of India I

have met people whom i feel are sattvic and also eat some meat, and

gave some examples. Further, I also gave an example of a food

generally considered tamasic, i.e. fungi, that other cultures view as

a "spiritual" food, to illustrate the problem with dogmatic thinking.

 

5. It was then stated that the Vedic aryans have always been vegetarian.

6. In response, I stated that the entire weight of anthropological

evidence in India as well as all over the world is that humans

evolved eating some meat as omnivores, and display the anatomical and

physiological features to suggest this is so (Note: some people

unfortunately read "eating meat" as "carnivore" - please understand

the difference.)

 

7. It was then stated that true Vedic aryans are different from other

humans, and originally migrated from the north pole.

8. Regarding the first point I replied that there is no anatomical

and genetic evidence of this fact, and with regard to the second

point, is unprovable in any case and irrelevant to the original point

of the effect of eating meat on the mind.

 

So, that's how i saw the "controversy". Please forgive me, but I

cannot understand what it has to do with Indian nationalism. India

is a great country, perhaps the greatest the world has ever known,

and although I am not Indian, hopefully you will allow me to admire

and love Her as well. I truly enjoyed the slide show.

 

best wishes...

Caldecott

todd (AT) toddcaldecott (DOT) com

www.toddcaldecott.com

[Guest guest]

Dear

 

My obection to meat eating is because it involves

killing animals. Imagine, if there was a very stronger

species that enjoyed and lived on human flesh, then

what would have been your feelings when it would have

approached you to kill you for eating?

 

Just by the way. Thank you and still with all the

regards for your knowledge and achievements and with

all my best wishes,

 

Hope you won't mind this comment of mine. It just

occured to me and I wrote it.

 

May God bless you more!

 

S. M. Acharya <smacharya (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

--- Todd Caldecott <todd (AT) toddcaldecott (DOT) com> wrote:

 

> 1. It was said that eating meat creates mental fear.

> 2. I rebutted this point, saying there is nothing I

> have found in

> studying Ayurveda that says this is so, and given

> that fear is a

> symptom of vata, and meat is clearly indicated to

> reduce vata in

> Ayurveda, meat should have the opposite effect. I

> also stated that

> this is my experience, that increasing animal

> products in the diet

> has helpful to address symptoms of vata such as

> anxiety and fear.

>