Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 > Can anyone pls tell me what the Mantras in > Sansktri mean? Some like Hrim, Srim have no meaning in Sanskrit The Bible says "At 1st there was Word, and that word was God". The Vedas also say "In the beginning there was Sound, and that sound was Brahma". But what was that actual Word? When God created the world, he created vibrations(Spanda) that can be heard to this day, but only by Rishis & advanced Sadhaks. That 1st word was Om- the Mahamantra which all the religons talk about. In Hinduism, there are 3 types of Mantra: 1. Nirguna- For the Qualityless form of God, like Soham(I am that). 2. Saguna- For God with form, like Om Namah Shivaye. 3. Beej- Like Krim, Shreen Aim etc. You were referring to the 3rd type- Beej Mantras which dont mean anything. To understand this, understand that God exists as a energy in the Higher planes. The forms that we see(Of shiv, vishnu) are ones created for our ease. But in reality, God is just energy. When this energy enters our World(Physical plane), it condenses to Sound and Light energy(like water vapor condenses to water). This Sound energy are the Beej mantras. So Beej Mantras are not name of the God, but **The actual God/Goddess** .So Aim-Beej mantra of Saraswati, is actually the condensed form of Saraswati. So anyone who says this Mantra is actually creating the Energy of Saraswati in his/her body. For this reason Beej mantras are very powerful, and should not be attempted without Guru. Om is a special case- it is a Nirguna, Saguna and Beej mantra at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 > Om is a special case- it is a Nirguna, Saguna and Beej mantra at the > same time. Shanracer Bhaiyyaji, I dont understand how Om is Saguna and Bija- I thought it is Nirguna only, as there is no Ishta Devtaa associated with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Laluji, Om is associated with Parashiv-the highest manifestation of God with Form. At this stage Shiv hasnt separated from his Shakti, so ParaShiv can also be called ParaShakti. They are commonly seen as Ardhanareshwar(Half man, half woman). You might have seen this in some Classical Indian Dances, in which the dancer dresses half like man and half like woman. This dance is the Dance of creation. So Om is a mantra for both Shiv and Shakti at their highest manifested form. Parashiv separated into Sadashiv and Shakti. These then create the Trimurti of Brahmna-Vishni-Mahesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Thank you Shantnuji. Can you also please tell me what it means by terms Vaikhari, Madhyama etc? I have often heard thing like "say Mantra in Madhyma". Radha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > Laluji, Om is associated with Parashiv-the highest manifestation of > God with Form. At this stage Shiv hasnt separated from his Shakti, so > ParaShiv can also be called ParaShakti. They are commonly seen as > Ardhanareshwar(Half man, half woman). You might have seen this in some > Classical Indian Dances, in which the dancer dresses half like man and > half like woman. This dance is the Dance of creation. > > So Om is a mantra for both Shiv and Shakti at their highest manifested > form. > > Parashiv separated into Sadashiv and Shakti. These then create the > Trimurti of Brahmna-Vishni-Mahesh. > Om is the Pranava Mantra. This mantra is part of every worship. Pranava is the primal sound that existed before the creation and the sound that stays after the Pralaya. In day to day worship Om is affixed to many mantras and also used in Namavali. Like Om Kalikayai namah! Om Gham Ganapathaye namah! OM is the most commonly used Mantra in sound Meditation. Only Devata mantras and Bija mantras are associated with Deities. Even here the same Bija mantra could be used for two different deities. Like Klim is for Maha Kaali and Krishna. We believe that Kaali and Krishna are one and the same. Then there are bija mantras which are obviously a combination of two bija mantras like HLRIM for MAA Bagalamukhi which is a combination of Hrim and Klim. Normally the Bija mantras are not said seperately. The only exception being the Maya bija Hrim which when said individually is called Suddha Bhuvaneswari Mantra. Jai MAA KAALI !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 Radha, there are 4 types of speech: 1. Vaikhari- Spoken aloud speech. Most people say Mantras at this level. 2. Madhyama- When you know in your mind what you are going to say, and are looking for the word for it. For example, if you are looking at mango, in India the mind would translate this as "Aam", in English "Mango" etc. This is at level of mind. You should say Mantras silently in mind, as that is more powerful. 3. Pashyanti- At this level, the word is only at a level of ideas/feeling. So a mango exists as different feeling for taste, color etc. All the people in the world, even the animals, have the same Pashyanti speech. So Rishis who master Pashyanti speech can talk to animals etc. Also Devtaas and high level Rishis only talk at this level, as there is no chance of misunderstanding. 4. Para- This is the highest level of speech. This is the Level at which God talks. It can only be heard by an enlightned few. All the Mantras, especially Beej mantaras like Om, Hrim were given to the Rishis in Para speech. Para can only be heard by those who have gone beyond death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2006 Report Share Posted August 2, 2006 > We believe that Kaali and Krishna are one and the same. > > Then there are bija mantras which are obviously a combination of two > bija mantras like HLRIM for MAA Bagalamukhi which is a combination of > Hrim and Klim. Thank you Sankarji. Can you clear a doubt. Like you say Baglamukhi has Beej mantra combined of Kali and Maya. Does that mean Baglamukhi is a combination of these 2 shaktis? Also many of the 10 Mahavidya Godesses like Baglamukhi, Chinnmasta, Dhumavati etc- how are they related to each other and Kali? I mean why are there these 10 forms, if they are the same Shakti? I know the mythological reason, but not the spiritual reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 > We believe that Kaali and Krishna are one and the same. Shankarji, I thought Kali was associated with Shiv, and Laxmi with Krishna/Vishnu. Can you please elaborate how they are the same? Thanks Radha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 >>Can you clear a doubt. Like you say Baglamukhi has >Beej mantra combined of Kali and Maya. Does that mean Baglamukhi is a >combination of these 2 shaktis? >Also many of the 10 Mahavidya Godesses like Baglamukhi, Chinnmasta, >Dhumavati etc- how are they related to each other and Kali? > I mean why are there these 10 forms, if they are the same Shakti? First of all let us distinguish between religion and spirituality. We did discuss that in detail in 2002. But I would like to reiterate that religion is only the means towards spirituality. But most people are stuck on the way. So we have very religious people who do not have an iota of spirituality in them. The Dasa Maha Vidyas are religious practices. They belong to the Kali Kula of the Tantrics. All the 10 forms are considered different forms of Maha Kaali. These forms were conceived by different sages for attaining different Mantra Siddhis. The Murtis are sculpted as per what is envisioned in a Dhyana Sloka. The Dhyana slokas and the particular mantras are given by sages who have attained Siddhi through that particular Marga. Each Mantras has a particular Dhyana Sloka and Deity. For the same mantra the Dhyana Sloka differs with Sampradayas ( traditions or schools). The same mantra can give different Siddhis ( effects) depending on the Dhyana Sloka and Tantric practice. These are Upasana Margas. For example the form of Maa Ugra Prathyangira Devi ( aka Adharvana Bhadra Kali) was visualized by the sages Angiras and Prathyangiras. Some believe that that the present form of Dhakshina Kali ( Dhakshineswar MAA and most of the images in Bengal) was the vision of Agama Vagisa. In advanced Sadhana in Mantra yoga the Mantra becomes the deity. I think the Dasa Maha Vidyas are grouped as 10 due to the influence of the Dasa Avathara concept. They do not seem to have any relationship. As I said earlier Maa Bagalamukhi’s Bija mantra seems to be the combination of Hrim ( Maya Bija) and Klim ( Kama bija and Bija for Krishna also). Her description of wearing Pithambara and carrying a gadha does remind one of Lord Krishna. Again the description of Maa Kamalathmika ( one of the Maha Vidyas ) is the same as Lakshmi the consort of Lord Vishnu. Jai MAA KAALI !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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