birth details of dracula

July 30, 2006

dear friends

if any of you have or know the resources where birth details of

dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the same for

my own research. the reason for my study is based on the following:

the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are entirely

false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or some flying

evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes out in the

night. all these are fictions.

the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from romania who was

born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a god

fearing christian and practiced christianity for several years. he

also led several wars in protecting his christian country from the

invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order in the

country that a golden cup was kept at a public square openly and it

remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

according to history books, he killed all money minting merchants

and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled all

immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict law and

order.

the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love (who

approached me through this group for reading his chart for failure

of love) started saying that failure in love would create a dracula

of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who have not

doled out their love. as per history all these myths are untrue and

he is an entirely different personality.

with best wishes

pandit arjun

July 30, 2006

Dear Arjunbhai,

Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful area

for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I shockingly

came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that you are

taking an active interest in it.

There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as I got

interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists and has

not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some garbage

collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into it for

you and transmit it!

Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini world

of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any interest? I

have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains out of

the reach of prevailing deities!

RR

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear friends

>

> if any of you have or know the resources where birth details of

> dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the same

for

> my own research. the reason for my study is based on the following:

>

> the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are entirely

> false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or some flying

> evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes out in

the

> night. all these are fictions.

>

> the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from romania who

was

> born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a god

> fearing christian and practiced christianity for several years. he

> also led several wars in protecting his christian country from the

> invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order in the

> country that a golden cup was kept at a public square openly and it

> remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> according to history books, he killed all money minting merchants

> and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled all

> immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict law and

> order.

>

> the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love (who

> approached me through this group for reading his chart for failure

> of love) started saying that failure in love would create a dracula

> of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who have

not

> doled out their love. as per history all these myths are untrue

and

> he is an entirely different personality.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

July 30, 2006

Dear RRji

thanks for the link which gives a technical presentation.

generally i do not read old charts of hundreds and thousands of

years ago. but these days the star plus serials and several movies

have bitten the love bug to young minds and many querents, often in

school and college, are interested in knowing the failure of their 3-

day old love affairs etc. all these queries came from the querents

from this group only. all these junvenile minds are so frustrated

that they do anything to get love. in reality these people does not

know the meaning of love. a girl sees a nice boy, well educated,

rich family, nice car, she falls in love and wants him and his

comforts and if she does not get, she becomes sick and approach

astrologers for analysing her love few days old love failure.

as one of you mentioned in their signatures, i stopped crying for

not having shoes when i found a man not having legs. like

prashantji, myself also does not show any sympathy or concern in

answering such love failure cases of juveniles as they know only

FALLING in love and not RISING in love.

i am not interested in a full fledged research and asked for the

birth details only to know whether vlad dracul is really a king who

enforced strict law and order or some failure in love whose aim is

only to suck the blood of all girls as made out by the movies and

novels.

the signature bug has travelled from you (after prafulla) and bit me

also and hence i too start giving some quotes from now on.

with best wishes

pandit arjun

(if you want something that you never had before, you must do

something that you never did before)

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Arjunbhai,

>

> Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

>

> Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful area

> for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I shockingly

> came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that you

are

> taking an active interest in it.

>

> There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as I got

> interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists and

has

> not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some

garbage

> collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into it

for

> you and transmit it!

>

> Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini

world

> of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any interest? I

> have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains out

of

> the reach of prevailing deities!

>

> RR

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friends

> >

> > if any of you have or know the resources where birth details of

> > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the same

> for

> > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

following:

> >

> > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are entirely

> > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or some

flying

> > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes out in

> the

> > night. all these are fictions.

> >

> > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from romania who

> was

> > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a god

> > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several years.

he

> > also led several wars in protecting his christian country from

the

> > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order in

the

> > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square openly and

it

> > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > according to history books, he killed all money minting

merchants

> > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled all

> > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict law and

> > order.

> >

> > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love (who

> > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

failure

> > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a

dracula

> > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who have

> not

> > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are untrue

> and

> > he is an entirely different personality.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> >

>

July 30, 2006

It is interesting that your bring up movies, dear brother!

The last few months have been difficult to me personally for a

variety of reasons but mostly jyotish forums! As -- strangely -- I

sense is the case for those that are from my spiritual generation if

not chronological!

I have been forced to watch some hindi movies and bollymusic videos

over the last few weeks (don't ask -- just be thankful for all these

daughters and their cousins visiting them!).

As always expressed freely, I have always been a very non-pious,

ordinary ant for a variety of reasons. And yet out of the blue I was

picked in my family to live in Benaras from 75 to 80 for my

education, in two realms!

When I was actually there, priorities and tasks were so different. To

be candid, I never hesitated when I left it, but today, even though I

do not pine to go back to Kashi again, I am grateful to Baba for the

experience, and for being there for the likes of me and many others!

Does that make any sense to you? I do hope it does!

Coming back to movies, I watched a movie today, "Benaras...".

Movies are not trivial, they are powerful, if you dare open yourself

to them fully!

I wish I was this mature and experienced and could o-p-e-n myself to

the real Kashi fully when I was actually there, like I did earlier

today!!

It is not about the place, but the space and that need not be

physical or geographical!! My lesson for this day that I dare share!

Love,

ranjan

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> Dear RRji

>

> thanks for the link which gives a technical presentation.

>

> generally i do not read old charts of hundreds and thousands of

> years ago. but these days the star plus serials and several movies

> have bitten the love bug to young minds and many querents, often in

> school and college, are interested in knowing the failure of their

3-

> day old love affairs etc. all these queries came from the querents

> from this group only. all these junvenile minds are so frustrated

> that they do anything to get love. in reality these people does

not

> know the meaning of love. a girl sees a nice boy, well educated,

> rich family, nice car, she falls in love and wants him and his

> comforts and if she does not get, she becomes sick and approach

> astrologers for analysing her love few days old love failure.

>

> as one of you mentioned in their signatures, i stopped crying for

> not having shoes when i found a man not having legs. like

> prashantji, myself also does not show any sympathy or concern in

> answering such love failure cases of juveniles as they know only

> FALLING in love and not RISING in love.

>

> i am not interested in a full fledged research and asked for the

> birth details only to know whether vlad dracul is really a king who

> enforced strict law and order or some failure in love whose aim is

> only to suck the blood of all girls as made out by the movies and

> novels.

>

> the signature bug has travelled from you (after prafulla) and bit

me

> also and hence i too start giving some quotes from now on.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

> (if you want something that you never had before, you must do

> something that you never did before)

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arjunbhai,

> >

> > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> >

> > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful

area

> > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I shockingly

> > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that you

> are

> > taking an active interest in it.

> >

> > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as I

got

> > interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists and

> has

> > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some

> garbage

> > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into it

> for

> > you and transmit it!

> >

> > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini

> world

> > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any interest?

I

> > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains out

> of

> > the reach of prevailing deities!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friends

> > >

> > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth details of

> > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the

same

> > for

> > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

> following:

> > >

> > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are entirely

> > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or some

> flying

> > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes out

in

> > the

> > > night. all these are fictions.

> > >

> > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from romania

who

> > was

> > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a god

> > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

years.

> he

> > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country from

> the

> > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order in

> the

> > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square openly

and

> it

> > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> merchants

> > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled all

> > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict law

and

> > > order.

> > >

> > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love (who

> > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

> failure

> > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a

> dracula

> > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who

have

> > not

> > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

untrue

> > and

> > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > pandit arjun

> > >

> >

>

July 30, 2006

Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela Lugosi:

Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

(Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal activities;

Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish charm;

Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females; and Venus

and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings may have

been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight nocturnal;

Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the light; and Venus

aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the grave.

Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one can 'Count'

on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine because of

back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'. Enjoy.

Haizen

, "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Arjunbhai,

>

> Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

>

> Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful area

> for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I shockingly

> came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that you are

> taking an active interest in it.

>

> There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as I got

> interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists and has

> not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some garbage

> collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into it for

> you and transmit it!

>

> Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini world

> of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any interest? I

> have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains out of

> the reach of prevailing deities!

>

> RR

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friends

> >

> > if any of you have or know the resources where birth details of

> > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the same

> for

> > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the following:

> >

> > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are entirely

> > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or some flying

> > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes out in

> the

> > night. all these are fictions.

> >

> > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from romania who

> was

> > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a god

> > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several years. he

> > also led several wars in protecting his christian country from the

> > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order in the

> > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square openly and it

> > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > according to history books, he killed all money minting merchants

> > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled all

> > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict law and

> > order.

> >

> > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love (who

> > approached me through this group for reading his chart for failure

> > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a dracula

> > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who have

> not

> > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are untrue

> and

> > he is an entirely different personality.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> >

>

July 30, 2006

dear RR ji

true, movies have been powerful in olden black and white days.

however, of late good movies like the one you are mentioning are in

minority.

the bone of contention in the subject failure of love is the

expectations and demands of a lover. true love knows only giving

and there is a principle that if you give your true love to someone,

the other ought to reciprocate your love. unfortunately people have

their selfish expectations in zeroing on a person, pine for that

person and later attribute failure of love if they dont succeed in

winning that lottery type person.

old, matured or realised people RISE in love having developed their

high capacity to love all people alike while selfish, low minded

people FALL in love with their limited capacity to love only one

person that too with expecations, often with selfish interests.

i close this sermon on love with what St John says in Bible: "love

is god" the interpretation says this means god is not someone who

loves all or god is someone whom all shall love, simply love itself

is god.

with best wishes

pandit arjun

(one reason for rejoice: duniya me kitna gam hai; mera gam kitna kam

hai)

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> It is interesting that your bring up movies, dear brother!

>

> The last few months have been difficult to me personally for a

> variety of reasons but mostly jyotish forums! As -- strangely -- I

> sense is the case for those that are from my spiritual generation

if

> not chronological!

>

> I have been forced to watch some hindi movies and bollymusic

videos

> over the last few weeks (don't ask -- just be thankful for all

these

> daughters and their cousins visiting them!).

>

> As always expressed freely, I have always been a very non-pious,

> ordinary ant for a variety of reasons. And yet out of the blue I

was

> picked in my family to live in Benaras from 75 to 80 for my

> education, in two realms!

>

> When I was actually there, priorities and tasks were so different.

To

> be candid, I never hesitated when I left it, but today, even

though I

> do not pine to go back to Kashi again, I am grateful to Baba for

the

> experience, and for being there for the likes of me and many

others!

> Does that make any sense to you? I do hope it does!

>

> Coming back to movies, I watched a movie today, "Benaras...".

>

> Movies are not trivial, they are powerful, if you dare open

yourself

> to them fully!

>

> I wish I was this mature and experienced and could o-p-e-n myself

to

> the real Kashi fully when I was actually there, like I did earlier

> today!!

>

> It is not about the place, but the space and that need not be

> physical or geographical!! My lesson for this day that I dare

share!

>

> Love,

>

> ranjan

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear RRji

> >

> > thanks for the link which gives a technical presentation.

> >

> > generally i do not read old charts of hundreds and thousands of

> > years ago. but these days the star plus serials and several

movies

> > have bitten the love bug to young minds and many querents, often

in

> > school and college, are interested in knowing the failure of

their

> 3-

> > day old love affairs etc. all these queries came from the

querents

> > from this group only. all these junvenile minds are so

frustrated

> > that they do anything to get love. in reality these people does

> not

> > know the meaning of love. a girl sees a nice boy, well

educated,

> > rich family, nice car, she falls in love and wants him and his

> > comforts and if she does not get, she becomes sick and approach

> > astrologers for analysing her love few days old love failure.

> >

> > as one of you mentioned in their signatures, i stopped crying

for

> > not having shoes when i found a man not having legs. like

> > prashantji, myself also does not show any sympathy or concern in

> > answering such love failure cases of juveniles as they know only

> > FALLING in love and not RISING in love.

> >

> > i am not interested in a full fledged research and asked for the

> > birth details only to know whether vlad dracul is really a king

who

> > enforced strict law and order or some failure in love whose aim

is

> > only to suck the blood of all girls as made out by the movies

and

> > novels.

> >

> > the signature bug has travelled from you (after prafulla) and

bit

> me

> > also and hence i too start giving some quotes from now on.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> > (if you want something that you never had before, you must do

> > something that you never did before)

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > >

> > > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> > >

> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > >

> > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful

> area

> > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

shockingly

> > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that

you

> > are

> > > taking an active interest in it.

> > >

> > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as I

> got

> > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists

and

> > has

> > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some

> > garbage

> > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into

it

> > for

> > > you and transmit it!

> > >

> > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini

> > world

> > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any

interest?

> I

> > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains

out

> > of

> > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friends

> > > >

> > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth details

of

> > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the

> same

> > > for

> > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

> > following:

> > > >

> > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

entirely

> > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or some

> > flying

> > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes

out

> in

> > > the

> > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > >

> > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from romania

> who

> > > was

> > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a

god

> > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

> years.

> > he

> > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country

from

> > the

> > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order

in

> > the

> > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square openly

> and

> > it

> > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> > merchants

> > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled

all

> > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict law

> and

> > > > order.

> > > >

> > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love

(who

> > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

> > failure

> > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a

> > dracula

> > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who

> have

> > > not

> > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

> untrue

> > > and

> > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 30, 2006

dear friend haizen

thanks for your good analysis of a ghoulish chart. seems like you

have good collection of charts of all kinds and in future shall

bother you too for any reference.

with best wishes

pandit arjun

(a doctor's quote: "I treat, he (god) cures")

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

>

> If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela Lugosi:

> Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal activities;

> Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish charm;

> Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females; and

Venus

> and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings may have

> been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight nocturnal;

> Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the light; and

Venus

> aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the grave.

> Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

can 'Count'

> on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine because of

> back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'. Enjoy.

>

> Haizen

>

> , "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arjunbhai,

> >

> > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> >

> > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful

area

> > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

shockingly

> > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that you

are

> > taking an active interest in it.

> >

> > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as I

got

> > interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists

and has

> > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some

garbage

> > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into it

for

> > you and transmit it!

> >

> > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini

world

> > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any interest?

I

> > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains out

of

> > the reach of prevailing deities!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friends

> > >

> > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth details

of

> > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the

same

> > for

> > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

following:

> > >

> > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

entirely

> > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or some

flying

> > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes out

in

> > the

> > > night. all these are fictions.

> > >

> > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from romania

who

> > was

> > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a god

> > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

years. he

> > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country from

the

> > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order in

the

> > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square openly

and it

> > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

merchants

> > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled all

> > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict law

and

> > > order.

> > >

> > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love (who

> > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

failure

> > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a

dracula

> > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who

have

> > not

> > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

untrue

> > and

> > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > pandit arjun

> > >

> >

>

July 30, 2006

Dear Arjunbhai,

These are not sermons, even if *we* are taken to task by someone

impudently! That has been my lesson on this forum in the last several

months. I have been lucky because the fingers had been pointing at

wrong places! I am just being open!!

Sermons in all times, I presume, were just personal experiences

shared freely and through conviction and full faith!

As they are today! For the one giving sermons, it is a personal test

and acceptance of truth that one can openly give and open one's self

to. For the receiver, it is the same in reciprocal.

For the bystanders, who are just watching, it is like the regions who

watch the hurricane pass through a narrow belt, close to them but not

exactly over them. It is up to them to lament that they were not

included this time or for others that may thank God they were not,

but do they know if they would not be *included* the next time?

RR

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear RR ji

>

> true, movies have been powerful in olden black and white days.

> however, of late good movies like the one you are mentioning are in

> minority.

>

> the bone of contention in the subject failure of love is the

> expectations and demands of a lover. true love knows only giving

> and there is a principle that if you give your true love to

someone,

> the other ought to reciprocate your love. unfortunately people

have

> their selfish expectations in zeroing on a person, pine for that

> person and later attribute failure of love if they dont succeed in

> winning that lottery type person.

>

> old, matured or realised people RISE in love having developed their

> high capacity to love all people alike while selfish, low minded

> people FALL in love with their limited capacity to love only one

> person that too with expecations, often with selfish interests.

>

> i close this sermon on love with what St John says in Bible: "love

> is god" the interpretation says this means god is not someone who

> loves all or god is someone whom all shall love, simply love itself

> is god.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

> (one reason for rejoice: duniya me kitna gam hai; mera gam kitna

kam

> hai)

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > It is interesting that your bring up movies, dear brother!

> >

> > The last few months have been difficult to me personally for a

> > variety of reasons but mostly jyotish forums! As -- strangely --

I

> > sense is the case for those that are from my spiritual generation

> if

> > not chronological!

> >

> > I have been forced to watch some hindi movies and bollymusic

> videos

> > over the last few weeks (don't ask -- just be thankful for all

> these

> > daughters and their cousins visiting them!).

> >

> > As always expressed freely, I have always been a very non-pious,

> > ordinary ant for a variety of reasons. And yet out of the blue I

> was

> > picked in my family to live in Benaras from 75 to 80 for my

> > education, in two realms!

> >

> > When I was actually there, priorities and tasks were so

different.

> To

> > be candid, I never hesitated when I left it, but today, even

> though I

> > do not pine to go back to Kashi again, I am grateful to Baba for

> the

> > experience, and for being there for the likes of me and many

> others!

> > Does that make any sense to you? I do hope it does!

> >

> > Coming back to movies, I watched a movie today, "Benaras...".

> >

> > Movies are not trivial, they are powerful, if you dare open

> yourself

> > to them fully!

> >

> > I wish I was this mature and experienced and could o-p-e-n myself

> to

> > the real Kashi fully when I was actually there, like I did

earlier

> > today!!

> >

> > It is not about the place, but the space and that need not be

> > physical or geographical!! My lesson for this day that I dare

> share!

> >

> > Love,

> >

> > ranjan

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear RRji

> > >

> > > thanks for the link which gives a technical presentation.

> > >

> > > generally i do not read old charts of hundreds and thousands of

> > > years ago. but these days the star plus serials and several

> movies

> > > have bitten the love bug to young minds and many querents,

often

> in

> > > school and college, are interested in knowing the failure of

> their

> > 3-

> > > day old love affairs etc. all these queries came from the

> querents

> > > from this group only. all these junvenile minds are so

> frustrated

> > > that they do anything to get love. in reality these people

does

> > not

> > > know the meaning of love. a girl sees a nice boy, well

> educated,

> > > rich family, nice car, she falls in love and wants him and his

> > > comforts and if she does not get, she becomes sick and approach

> > > astrologers for analysing her love few days old love failure.

> > >

> > > as one of you mentioned in their signatures, i stopped crying

> for

> > > not having shoes when i found a man not having legs. like

> > > prashantji, myself also does not show any sympathy or concern

in

> > > answering such love failure cases of juveniles as they know

only

> > > FALLING in love and not RISING in love.

> > >

> > > i am not interested in a full fledged research and asked for

the

> > > birth details only to know whether vlad dracul is really a king

> who

> > > enforced strict law and order or some failure in love whose aim

> is

> > > only to suck the blood of all girls as made out by the movies

> and

> > > novels.

> > >

> > > the signature bug has travelled from you (after prafulla) and

> bit

> > me

> > > also and hence i too start giving some quotes from now on.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > pandit arjun

> > > (if you want something that you never had before, you must do

> > > something that you never did before)

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > >

> > > > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> > > >

> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > >

> > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful

> > area

> > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

> shockingly

> > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that

> you

> > > are

> > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > >

> > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as

I

> > got

> > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists

> and

> > > has

> > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some

> > > garbage

> > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into

> it

> > > for

> > > > you and transmit it!

> > > >

> > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini

> > > world

> > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any

> interest?

> > I

> > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains

> out

> > > of

> > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear friends

> > > > >

> > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth

details

> of

> > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the

> > same

> > > > for

> > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

> > > following:

> > > > >

> > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

> entirely

> > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or

some

> > > flying

> > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes

> out

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > >

> > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

romania

> > who

> > > > was

> > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a

> god

> > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

> > years.

> > > he

> > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country

> from

> > > the

> > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order

> in

> > > the

> > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square

openly

> > and

> > > it

> > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > > > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> > > merchants

> > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled

> all

> > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict

law

> > and

> > > > > order.

> > > > >

> > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love

> (who

> > > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

> > > failure

> > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a

> > > dracula

> > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who

> > have

> > > > not

> > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

> > untrue

> > > > and

> > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 30, 2006

Lahiri so emphatically? Haizen?? And I thought I knew you! Shocking,

I say SIR!!

Thanks for correcting my bias from Christopber Lee to Lugosi. Not

talking about the ayanamsha bias, yet! ;-)

ranjan

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

>

> If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela Lugosi:

> Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal activities;

> Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish charm;

> Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females; and Venus

> and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings may have

> been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight nocturnal;

> Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the light; and

Venus

> aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the grave.

> Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

can 'Count'

> on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine because of

> back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'. Enjoy.

>

> Haizen

>

> , "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arjunbhai,

> >

> > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> >

> > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful

area

> > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I shockingly

> > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that you

are

> > taking an active interest in it.

> >

> > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as I

got

> > interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists and

has

> > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some

garbage

> > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into it

for

> > you and transmit it!

> >

> > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini

world

> > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any interest?

I

> > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains out

of

> > the reach of prevailing deities!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friends

> > >

> > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth details of

> > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the

same

> > for

> > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

following:

> > >

> > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are entirely

> > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or some

flying

> > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes out

in

> > the

> > > night. all these are fictions.

> > >

> > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from romania

who

> > was

> > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a god

> > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

years. he

> > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country from

the

> > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order in

the

> > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square openly

and it

> > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

merchants

> > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled all

> > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict law

and

> > > order.

> > >

> > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love (who

> > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

failure

> > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a

dracula

> > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who

have

> > not

> > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

untrue

> > and

> > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > pandit arjun

> > >

> >

>

July 30, 2006

Dear Ranjan,

, "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Lahiri so emphatically? Haizen?? And I thought I knew you! Shocking,

> I say SIR!!

Are you joking and pulling my lagna, or do your prefer something

other than Lahiri? (You straddle the line between wit and wisdom so

well that I'm not always able to tell, lol.) If you wish to discuss

ayanamshas, I actually use a different one according to the day of

the weak, the shirt I'm wearing, or my particular mood, lol... All

seriousness aside, I mention ascendant degree because the coordinates

for Lugos are sometimes hard to find...I think Bela tried to hide them

under his cloak.

> Thanks for correcting my bias from Christopber Lee to Lugosi. Not

> talking about the ayanamsha bias, yet! ;-)

No problem. I am here to expand your vampire horizons...and let me

know what day of the week it is and I'll tell my current ayanamsha.

Funny about ayanamshas, they're so instrumental but no one ever

seems to argue about them. Have any theories on this?

> ranjan

Haizen

>

> , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> >

> > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela Lugosi:

> > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal activities;

> > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish charm;

> > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females; and Venus

> > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings may have

> > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight nocturnal;

> > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the light; and

> Venus

> > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the grave.

> > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

> can 'Count'

> > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine because of

> > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'. Enjoy.

> >

> > Haizen

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > >

> > > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> > >

> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > >

> > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful

> area

> > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I shockingly

> > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that you

> are

> > > taking an active interest in it.

> > >

> > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as I

> got

> > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists and

> has

> > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some

> garbage

> > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into it

> for

> > > you and transmit it!

> > >

> > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini

> world

> > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any interest?

> I

> > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains out

> of

> > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friends

> > > >

> > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth details of

> > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the

> same

> > > for

> > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

> following:

> > > >

> > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are entirely

> > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or some

> flying

> > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes out

> in

> > > the

> > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > >

> > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from romania

> who

> > > was

> > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a god

> > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

> years. he

> > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country from

> the

> > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order in

> the

> > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square openly

> and it

> > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> merchants

> > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled all

> > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict law

> and

> > > > order.

> > > >

> > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love (who

> > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

> failure

> > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a

> dracula

> > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who

> have

> > > not

> > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

> untrue

> > > and

> > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 30, 2006

Dear Pandit,

Yes, my chart collection is somewhat good and it's surprising how

many charts I've found under Google. If you have some favorites,

let me know and I'll see what I have. Sorry that I don't have more

of an Indian collection of great Bollywood films stars and producers.

But speaking of the dark side, certain charts are of definite ghouish

delight and I have number of vampire clients. (Naturally, they prefer to

remain anonymous under penalty of death.) Some of them say I have

a special flair of reading their charts and I am affectionately known as

The Astrologer to the Cloaks.

Happy Viewing,

Haizen

, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004

wrote:

>

> dear friend haizen

>

> thanks for your good analysis of a ghoulish chart. seems like you

> have good collection of charts of all kinds and in future shall

> bother you too for any reference.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

> (a doctor's quote: "I treat, he (god) cures")

>

> , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> >

> > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela Lugosi:

> > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal activities;

> > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish charm;

> > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females; and

> Venus

> > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings may have

> > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight nocturnal;

> > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the light; and

> Venus

> > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the grave.

> > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

> can 'Count'

> > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine because of

> > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'. Enjoy.

> >

> > Haizen

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > >

> > > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> > >

> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > >

> > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful

> area

> > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

> shockingly

> > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that you

> are

> > > taking an active interest in it.

> > >

> > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as I

> got

> > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists

> and has

> > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some

> garbage

> > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into it

> for

> > > you and transmit it!

> > >

> > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini

> world

> > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any interest?

> I

> > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains out

> of

> > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friends

> > > >

> > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth details

> of

> > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the

> same

> > > for

> > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

> following:

> > > >

> > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

> entirely

> > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or some

> flying

> > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes out

> in

> > > the

> > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > >

> > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from romania

> who

> > > was

> > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a god

> > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

> years. he

> > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country from

> the

> > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order in

> the

> > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square openly

> and it

> > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> merchants

> > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled all

> > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict law

> and

> > > > order.

> > > >

> > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love (who

> > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

> failure

> > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a

> dracula

> > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who

> have

> > > not

> > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

> untrue

> > > and

> > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 30, 2006

I am a Romanian, and I can tell you that all that the

movies usually present about Dracula is pure fiction.

If you want to learn more about Vlad the Impaler, type

in google "Vlad Tepes" . this is the Romanian for

"the impaler".

Another suggestion for your research is to link his

name "Dracul" which usually means the evil one, to the

ancient name of the Dragon's Order. Dracul In Romanian

standed long time ago for both devil and dragon. New

studies show Vlad's apartenece to a secret order of

Dragons.

some others suggest his links to the draconians or

reptoids.

Hope that this will be helpful to you.

Maria

--- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote:

> dear friends

>

> if any of you have or know the resources where birth

> details of

> dracula are available, please advise as i wish to

> study the same for

> my own research. the reason for my study is based

> on the following:

>

> the filmi version and the novel version of dracula

> are entirely

> false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire

> or some flying

> evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and

> comes out in the

> night. all these are fictions.

>

> the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

> romania who was

> born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and

> was a god

> fearing christian and practiced christianity for

> several years. he

> also led several wars in protecting his christian

> country from the

> invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law

> and order in the

> country that a golden cup was kept at a public

> square openly and it

> remained untouched and unstealed during his entire

> tenure.

> according to history books, he killed all money

> minting merchants

> and also killed all the sick and beggars and also

> impaled all

> immoral girls and women in his country to enforce

> strict law and

> order.

>

> the above study was prompted by me when a failure in

> love (who

> approached me through this group for reading his

> chart for failure

> of love) started saying that failure in love would

> create a dracula

> of an ordinary person to take revenge against the

> girls who have not

> doled out their love. as per history all these

> myths are untrue and

> he is an entirely different personality.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

July 30, 2006

Dear Haizen,

What would be wisdom without WITs? ;-)

I was being absolutely non-serious, but please don't tell anyone!

Regarding Ayanamsha correction my range of acceptance for values are

very broad and span from 0 degrees (!) to whatever works in anyone's

hands. In other words, I will not challenge anyone even if they wish

to use a very different value. As long as they do not claim that

their value is the only one that holds water and all other values are

like sieves. Especially without showing any sincere efforts to

provide illustrations.

Regards,

RR

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Dear Ranjan,

>

> , "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Lahiri so emphatically? Haizen?? And I thought I knew you!

Shocking,

> > I say SIR!!

>

> Are you joking and pulling my lagna, or do your prefer something

> other than Lahiri? (You straddle the line between wit and wisdom so

> well that I'm not always able to tell, lol.) If you wish to discuss

> ayanamshas, I actually use a different one according to the day of

> the weak, the shirt I'm wearing, or my particular mood, lol... All

> seriousness aside, I mention ascendant degree because the

coordinates

> for Lugos are sometimes hard to find...I think Bela tried to hide

them

> under his cloak.

>

> > Thanks for correcting my bias from Christopber Lee to Lugosi. Not

> > talking about the ayanamsha bias, yet! ;-)

>

> No problem. I am here to expand your vampire horizons...and let me

> know what day of the week it is and I'll tell my current ayanamsha.

> Funny about ayanamshas, they're so instrumental but no one ever

> seems to argue about them. Have any theories on this?

>

> > ranjan

>

> Haizen

>

> >

> > , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > >

> > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela Lugosi:

> > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal

activities;

> > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish charm;

> > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females; and

Venus

> > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings may

have

> > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight nocturnal;

> > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the light;

and

> > Venus

> > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the

grave.

> > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

> > can 'Count'

> > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine because

of

> > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'. Enjoy.

> > >

> > > Haizen

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > >

> > > > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> > > >

> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > >

> > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful

> > area

> > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

shockingly

> > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that

you

> > are

> > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > >

> > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as

I

> > got

> > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists

and

> > has

> > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some

> > garbage

> > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into

it

> > for

> > > > you and transmit it!

> > > >

> > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini

> > world

> > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any

interest?

> > I

> > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains

out

> > of

> > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear friends

> > > > >

> > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth

details of

> > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the

> > same

> > > > for

> > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

> > following:

> > > > >

> > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

entirely

> > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or

some

> > flying

> > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes

out

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > >

> > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

romania

> > who

> > > > was

> > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a

god

> > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

> > years. he

> > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country

from

> > the

> > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order

in

> > the

> > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square

openly

> > and it

> > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > > > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> > merchants

> > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled

all

> > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict

law

> > and

> > > > > order.

> > > > >

> > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love

(who

> > > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

> > failure

> > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a

> > dracula

> > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who

> > have

> > > > not

> > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

> > untrue

> > > > and

> > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 30, 2006

Psst ... I forgot to add this to my earlier response. I am personally

not interested in studying vampirism in a chart. The living are

complex enough and are such rich material for research without me

exploring the living dead!

RR

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Dear Ranjan,

>

> , "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Lahiri so emphatically? Haizen?? And I thought I knew you!

Shocking,

> > I say SIR!!

>

> Are you joking and pulling my lagna, or do your prefer something

> other than Lahiri? (You straddle the line between wit and wisdom so

> well that I'm not always able to tell, lol.) If you wish to discuss

> ayanamshas, I actually use a different one according to the day of

> the weak, the shirt I'm wearing, or my particular mood, lol... All

> seriousness aside, I mention ascendant degree because the

coordinates

> for Lugos are sometimes hard to find...I think Bela tried to hide

them

> under his cloak.

>

> > Thanks for correcting my bias from Christopber Lee to Lugosi. Not

> > talking about the ayanamsha bias, yet! ;-)

>

> No problem. I am here to expand your vampire horizons...and let me

> know what day of the week it is and I'll tell my current ayanamsha.

> Funny about ayanamshas, they're so instrumental but no one ever

> seems to argue about them. Have any theories on this?

>

> > ranjan

>

> Haizen

>

> >

> > , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > >

> > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela Lugosi:

> > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal

activities;

> > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish charm;

> > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females; and

Venus

> > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings may

have

> > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight nocturnal;

> > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the light;

and

> > Venus

> > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the

grave.

> > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

> > can 'Count'

> > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine because

of

> > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'. Enjoy.

> > >

> > > Haizen

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > >

> > > > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> > > >

> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > >

> > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful

> > area

> > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

shockingly

> > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that

you

> > are

> > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > >

> > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as

I

> > got

> > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists

and

> > has

> > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some

> > garbage

> > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into

it

> > for

> > > > you and transmit it!

> > > >

> > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini

> > world

> > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any

interest?

> > I

> > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains

out

> > of

> > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear friends

> > > > >

> > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth

details of

> > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the

> > same

> > > > for

> > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

> > following:

> > > > >

> > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

entirely

> > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or

some

> > flying

> > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes

out

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > >

> > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

romania

> > who

> > > > was

> > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a

god

> > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

> > years. he

> > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country

from

> > the

> > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order

in

> > the

> > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square

openly

> > and it

> > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > > > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> > merchants

> > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled

all

> > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict

law

> > and

> > > > > order.

> > > > >

> > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love

(who

> > > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

> > failure

> > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a

> > dracula

> > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who

> > have

> > > > not

> > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

> > untrue

> > > > and

> > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2006

Wise man! I am of course kidding about vampire clients and studying

the dead. ;-)

, "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Psst ... I forgot to add this to my earlier response. I am personally

> not interested in studying vampirism in a chart. The living are

> complex enough and are such rich material for research without me

> exploring the living dead!

>

> RR

>

> , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ranjan,

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Lahiri so emphatically? Haizen?? And I thought I knew you!

> Shocking,

> > > I say SIR!!

> >

> > Are you joking and pulling my lagna, or do your prefer something

> > other than Lahiri? (You straddle the line between wit and wisdom so

> > well that I'm not always able to tell, lol.) If you wish to discuss

> > ayanamshas, I actually use a different one according to the day of

> > the weak, the shirt I'm wearing, or my particular mood, lol... All

> > seriousness aside, I mention ascendant degree because the

> coordinates

> > for Lugos are sometimes hard to find...I think Bela tried to hide

> them

> > under his cloak.

> >

> > > Thanks for correcting my bias from Christopber Lee to Lugosi. Not

> > > talking about the ayanamsha bias, yet! ;-)

> >

> > No problem. I am here to expand your vampire horizons...and let me

> > know what day of the week it is and I'll tell my current ayanamsha.

> > Funny about ayanamshas, they're so instrumental but no one ever

> > seems to argue about them. Have any theories on this?

> >

> > > ranjan

> >

> > Haizen

> >

> > >

> > > , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > > >

> > > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> > > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela Lugosi:

> > > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> > > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal

> activities;

> > > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish charm;

> > > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females; and

> Venus

> > > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings may

> have

> > > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight nocturnal;

> > > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the light;

> and

> > > Venus

> > > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the

> grave.

> > > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

> > > can 'Count'

> > > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine because

> of

> > > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'. Enjoy.

> > > >

> > > > Haizen

> > > >

> > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> > > > >

> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > > >

> > > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a wonderful

> > > area

> > > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

> shockingly

> > > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that

> you

> > > are

> > > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as

> I

> > > got

> > > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still exists

> and

> > > has

> > > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on some

> > > garbage

> > > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look into

> it

> > > for

> > > > > you and transmit it!

> > > > >

> > > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the mayavini

> > > world

> > > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any

> interest?

> > > I

> > > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains

> out

> > > of

> > > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear friends

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth

> details of

> > > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study the

> > > same

> > > > > for

> > > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

> > > following:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

> entirely

> > > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or

> some

> > > flying

> > > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes

> out

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

> romania

> > > who

> > > > > was

> > > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a

> god

> > > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

> > > years. he

> > > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country

> from

> > > the

> > > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and order

> in

> > > the

> > > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square

> openly

> > > and it

> > > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire tenure.

> > > > > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> > > merchants

> > > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled

> all

> > > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict

> law

> > > and

> > > > > > order.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love

> (who

> > > > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

> > > failure

> > > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create a

> > > dracula

> > > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls who

> > > have

> > > > > not

> > > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

> > > untrue

> > > > > and

> > > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2006

Of course!

Something I am interested in, though, and hopefully someday will

pursue more intently is the "Masks nativities wear ...!"

Actors and stars obviously would make rich material because they have

so many masks and roles. I am sure, that it would be an interesting

study, because though it is difficult to impossible to get to the

real personality of celebrities (even if one manages to get their

real data), their masks are visible (through their roles) and surely

must have prominent markers in their charts.

I don't mean any and every role, but the biggies!

RR

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Wise man! I am of course kidding about vampire clients and studying

> the dead. ;-)

>

> , "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Psst ... I forgot to add this to my earlier response. I am

personally

> > not interested in studying vampirism in a chart. The living are

> > complex enough and are such rich material for research without me

> > exploring the living dead!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ranjan,

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lahiri so emphatically? Haizen?? And I thought I knew you!

> > Shocking,

> > > > I say SIR!!

> > >

> > > Are you joking and pulling my lagna, or do your prefer something

> > > other than Lahiri? (You straddle the line between wit and

wisdom so

> > > well that I'm not always able to tell, lol.) If you wish to

discuss

> > > ayanamshas, I actually use a different one according to the day

of

> > > the weak, the shirt I'm wearing, or my particular mood, lol...

All

> > > seriousness aside, I mention ascendant degree because the

> > coordinates

> > > for Lugos are sometimes hard to find...I think Bela tried to

hide

> > them

> > > under his cloak.

> > >

> > > > Thanks for correcting my bias from Christopber Lee to Lugosi.

Not

> > > > talking about the ayanamsha bias, yet! ;-)

> > >

> > > No problem. I am here to expand your vampire horizons...and let

me

> > > know what day of the week it is and I'll tell my current

ayanamsha.

> > > Funny about ayanamshas, they're so instrumental but no one ever

> > > seems to argue about them. Have any theories on this?

> > >

> > > > ranjan

> > >

> > > Haizen

> > >

> > > >

> > > > , "haizen" <haizen@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> > > > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela

Lugosi:

> > > > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> > > > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal

> > activities;

> > > > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish

charm;

> > > > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females;

and

> > Venus

> > > > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings

may

> > have

> > > > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight

nocturnal;

> > > > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the

light;

> > and

> > > > Venus

> > > > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the

> > grave.

> > > > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

> > > > can 'Count'

> > > > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine

because

> > of

> > > > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'.

Enjoy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Haizen

> > > > >

> > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please also study this article, as you research this

topic:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a

wonderful

> > > > area

> > > > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

> > shockingly

> > > > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see

that

> > you

> > > > are

> > > > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected

as

> > I

> > > > got

> > > > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still

exists

> > and

> > > > has

> > > > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on

some

> > > > garbage

> > > > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look

into

> > it

> > > > for

> > > > > > you and transmit it!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the

mayavini

> > > > world

> > > > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any

> > interest?

> > > > I

> > > > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection

remains

> > out

> > > > of

> > > > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

, "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear friends

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth

> > details of

> > > > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study

the

> > > > same

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on

the

> > > > following:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

> > entirely

> > > > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or

> > some

> > > > flying

> > > > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and

comes

> > out

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

> > romania

> > > > who

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and

was a

> > god

> > > > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for

several

> > > > years. he

> > > > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian

country

> > from

> > > > the

> > > > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and

order

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square

> > openly

> > > > and it

> > > > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire

tenure.

> > > > > > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> > > > merchants

> > > > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also

impaled

> > all

> > > > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce

strict

> > law

> > > > and

> > > > > > > order.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in

love

> > (who

> > > > > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart

for

> > > > failure

> > > > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would

create a

> > > > dracula

> > > > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls

who

> > > > have

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths

are

> > > > untrue

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2006

Dear Ranjan,

, "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Of course!

>

> Something I am interested in, though, and hopefully someday will

> pursue more intently is the "Masks nativities wear ...!"

You mean the charts of politicians?? ;-)

> Actors and stars obviously would make rich material because they have

> so many masks and roles. I am sure, that it would be an interesting

> study, because though it is difficult to impossible to get to the

> real personality of celebrities (even if one manages to get their

> real data), their masks are visible (through their roles) and surely

> must have prominent markers in their charts.

Interesting point you bring up. I've been noticing a number of actor's

charts with a Mercury/Ketu aspect. They could sell a refrigerator to

an eskimo--the great deceiver or the great performer of someone

else's words. But when I think of living with a famous actress having

that aspect--not that I've been asked to, lol--I would probably never

know when she was being real or faking in bed, lol. But I love being

fooled at the cinema. The great performers appear to take on these

other identities body and soul.

> I don't mean any and every role, but the biggies!

Right.

> RR

Haizen

> , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> >

> > Wise man! I am of course kidding about vampire clients and studying

> > the dead. ;-)

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Psst ... I forgot to add this to my earlier response. I am

> personally

> > > not interested in studying vampirism in a chart. The living are

> > > complex enough and are such rich material for research without me

> > > exploring the living dead!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ranjan,

> > > >

> > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lahiri so emphatically? Haizen?? And I thought I knew you!

> > > Shocking,

> > > > > I say SIR!!

> > > >

> > > > Are you joking and pulling my lagna, or do your prefer something

> > > > other than Lahiri? (You straddle the line between wit and

> wisdom so

> > > > well that I'm not always able to tell, lol.) If you wish to

> discuss

> > > > ayanamshas, I actually use a different one according to the day

> of

> > > > the weak, the shirt I'm wearing, or my particular mood, lol...

> All

> > > > seriousness aside, I mention ascendant degree because the

> > > coordinates

> > > > for Lugos are sometimes hard to find...I think Bela tried to

> hide

> > > them

> > > > under his cloak.

> > > >

> > > > > Thanks for correcting my bias from Christopber Lee to Lugosi.

> Not

> > > > > talking about the ayanamsha bias, yet! ;-)

> > > >

> > > > No problem. I am here to expand your vampire horizons...and let

> me

> > > > know what day of the week it is and I'll tell my current

> ayanamsha.

> > > > Funny about ayanamshas, they're so instrumental but no one ever

> > > > seems to argue about them. Have any theories on this?

> > > >

> > > > > ranjan

> > > >

> > > > Haizen

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "haizen" <haizen@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> > > > > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela

> Lugosi:

> > > > > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> > > > > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal

> > > activities;

> > > > > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish

> charm;

> > > > > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females;

> and

> > > Venus

> > > > > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings

> may

> > > have

> > > > > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight

> nocturnal;

> > > > > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the

> light;

> > > and

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the

> > > grave.

> > > > > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

> > > > > can 'Count'

> > > > > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine

> because

> > > of

> > > > > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'.

> Enjoy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Haizen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please also study this article, as you research this

> topic:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a

> wonderful

> > > > > area

> > > > > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

> > > shockingly

> > > > > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see

> that

> > > you

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected

> as

> > > I

> > > > > got

> > > > > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still

> exists

> > > and

> > > > > has

> > > > > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on

> some

> > > > > garbage

> > > > > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look

> into

> > > it

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > you and transmit it!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the

> mayavini

> > > > > world

> > > > > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any

> > > interest?

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection

> remains

> > > out

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear friends

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth

> > > details of

> > > > > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study

> the

> > > > > same

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on

> the

> > > > > following:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

> > > entirely

> > > > > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or

> > > some

> > > > > flying

> > > > > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and

> comes

> > > out

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

> > > romania

> > > > > who

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and

> was a

> > > god

> > > > > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for

> several

> > > > > years. he

> > > > > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian

> country

> > > from

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and

> order

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square

> > > openly

> > > > > and it

> > > > > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire

> tenure.

> > > > > > > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> > > > > merchants

> > > > > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also

> impaled

> > > all

> > > > > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce

> strict

> > > law

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > order.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in

> love

> > > (who

> > > > > > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart

> for

> > > > > failure

> > > > > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would

> create a

> > > > > dracula

> > > > > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls

> who

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths

> are

> > > > > untrue

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2006

Haizen,

No not politicians! They are just not pretty to look at, in any sense

of that term! But you can have them if you so desire!! Or perhaps

vampires might be a safer choice!!!

I speak from a point of total ignorance, as you can tell ;-)

RR

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Dear Ranjan,

>

> , "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Of course!

> >

> > Something I am interested in, though, and hopefully someday will

> > pursue more intently is the "Masks nativities wear ...!"

>

> You mean the charts of politicians?? ;-)

>

> > Actors and stars obviously would make rich material because they

have

> > so many masks and roles. I am sure, that it would be an

interesting

> > study, because though it is difficult to impossible to get to the

> > real personality of celebrities (even if one manages to get their

> > real data), their masks are visible (through their roles) and

surely

> > must have prominent markers in their charts.

>

> Interesting point you bring up. I've been noticing a number of

actor's

> charts with a Mercury/Ketu aspect. They could sell a refrigerator to

> an eskimo--the great deceiver or the great performer of someone

> else's words. But when I think of living with a famous actress

having

> that aspect--not that I've been asked to, lol--I would probably

never

> know when she was being real or faking in bed, lol. But I love being

> fooled at the cinema. The great performers appear to take on these

> other identities body and soul.

>

> > I don't mean any and every role, but the biggies!

>

> Right.

>

> > RR

>

> Haizen

>

> > , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Wise man! I am of course kidding about vampire clients and

studying

> > > the dead. ;-)

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Psst ... I forgot to add this to my earlier response. I am

> > personally

> > > > not interested in studying vampirism in a chart. The living

are

> > > > complex enough and are such rich material for research

without me

> > > > exploring the living dead!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "haizen" <haizen@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ranjan,

> > > > >

> > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lahiri so emphatically? Haizen?? And I thought I knew

you!

> > > > Shocking,

> > > > > > I say SIR!!

> > > > >

> > > > > Are you joking and pulling my lagna, or do your prefer

something

> > > > > other than Lahiri? (You straddle the line between wit and

> > wisdom so

> > > > > well that I'm not always able to tell, lol.) If you wish to

> > discuss

> > > > > ayanamshas, I actually use a different one according to the

day

> > of

> > > > > the weak, the shirt I'm wearing, or my particular mood,

lol...

> > All

> > > > > seriousness aside, I mention ascendant degree because the

> > > > coordinates

> > > > > for Lugos are sometimes hard to find...I think Bela tried

to

> > hide

> > > > them

> > > > > under his cloak.

> > > > >

> > > > > > Thanks for correcting my bias from Christopber Lee to

Lugosi.

> > Not

> > > > > > talking about the ayanamsha bias, yet! ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > No problem. I am here to expand your vampire horizons...and

let

> > me

> > > > > know what day of the week it is and I'll tell my current

> > ayanamsha.

> > > > > Funny about ayanamshas, they're so instrumental but no one

ever

> > > > > seems to argue about them. Have any theories on this?

> > > > >

> > > > > > ranjan

> > > > >

> > > > > Haizen

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "haizen"

<haizen@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most

famous

> > > > > > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela

> > Lugosi:

> > > > > > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54,

22AQ33

> > > > > > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal

> > > > activities;

> > > > > > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for

ghoulish

> > charm;

> > > > > > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on

females;

> > and

> > > > Venus

> > > > > > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the

feelings

> > may

> > > > have

> > > > > > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight

> > nocturnal;

> > > > > > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the

> > light;

> > > > and

> > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of

the

> > > > grave.

> > > > > > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that

one

> > > > > > can 'Count'

> > > > > > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine

> > because

> > > > of

> > > > > > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been

to 'cryptic'.

> > Enjoy.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Haizen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "crystal

pages"

> > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Please also study this article, as you research this

> > topic:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a

> > wonderful

> > > > > > area

> > > > > > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase,

I

> > > > shockingly

> > > > > > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to

see

> > that

> > > > you

> > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had

collected

> > as

> > > > I

> > > > > > got

> > > > > > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it

still

> > exists

> > > > and

> > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out

on

> > some

> > > > > > garbage

> > > > > > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will

look

> > into

> > > > it

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > you and transmit it!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the

> > mayavini

> > > > > > world

> > > > > > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere.

Any

> > > > interest?

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection

> > remains

> > > > out

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > dear friends

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where

birth

> > > > details of

> > > > > > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to

study

> > the

> > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based

on

> > the

> > > > > > following:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula

are

> > > > entirely

> > > > > > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking

vampire or

> > > > some

> > > > > > flying

> > > > > > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and

> > comes

> > > > out

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince

from

> > > > romania

> > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara

and

> > was a

> > > > god

> > > > > > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for

> > several

> > > > > > years. he

> > > > > > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian

> > country

> > > > from

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law

and

> > order

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public

square

> > > > openly

> > > > > > and it

> > > > > > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire

> > tenure.

> > > > > > > > > according to history books, he killed all money

minting

> > > > > > merchants

> > > > > > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also

> > impaled

> > > > all

> > > > > > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce

> > strict

> > > > law

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > order.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure

in

> > love

> > > > (who

> > > > > > > > > approached me through this group for reading his

chart

> > for

> > > > > > failure

> > > > > > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would

> > create a

> > > > > > dracula

> > > > > > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the

girls

> > who

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these

myths

> > are

> > > > > > untrue

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2006

dear haizen

there must be some nocturnal connection in all of us without which

we would not be discussing this subject here! by the way, i have

been practicing exorcism for the past several years and nice noting

that creatures of dark are patronising you as well!

with best wishes

pandit arjun

(always strive be in the giving position, if you have nothing to

give, give your best wishes)

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Dear Pandit,

>

> Yes, my chart collection is somewhat good and it's surprising how

> many charts I've found under Google. If you have some favorites,

> let me know and I'll see what I have. Sorry that I don't have more

> of an Indian collection of great Bollywood films stars and

producers.

>

> But speaking of the dark side, certain charts are of definite

ghouish

> delight and I have number of vampire clients. (Naturally, they

prefer to

> remain anonymous under penalty of death.) Some of them say I have

> a special flair of reading their charts and I am affectionately

known as

> The Astrologer to the Cloaks.

>

> Happy Viewing,

> Haizen

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004@>

> wrote:

> >

> > dear friend haizen

> >

> > thanks for your good analysis of a ghoulish chart. seems like

you

> > have good collection of charts of all kinds and in future shall

> > bother you too for any reference.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> > (a doctor's quote: "I treat, he (god) cures")

> >

> > , "haizen" <haizen@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > >

> > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela Lugosi:

> > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal

activities;

> > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish

charm;

> > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females; and

> > Venus

> > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings may

have

> > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight nocturnal;

> > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the light;

and

> > Venus

> > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the

grave.

> > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

> > can 'Count'

> > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine

because of

> > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'. Enjoy.

> > >

> > > Haizen

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > >

> > > > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> > > >

> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > >

> > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a

wonderful

> > area

> > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

> > shockingly

> > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that

you

> > are

> > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > >

> > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as

I

> > got

> > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still

exists

> > and has

> > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on

some

> > garbage

> > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look

into it

> > for

> > > > you and transmit it!

> > > >

> > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the

mayavini

> > world

> > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any

interest?

> > I

> > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains

out

> > of

> > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear friends

> > > > >

> > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth

details

> > of

> > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study

the

> > same

> > > > for

> > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

> > following:

> > > > >

> > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

> > entirely

> > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or

some

> > flying

> > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes

out

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > >

> > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

romania

> > who

> > > > was

> > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a

god

> > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

> > years. he

> > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country

from

> > the

> > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and

order in

> > the

> > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square

openly

> > and it

> > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire

tenure.

> > > > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> > merchants

> > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled

all

> > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict

law

> > and

> > > > > order.

> > > > >

> > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love

(who

> > > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

> > failure

> > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create

a

> > dracula

> > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls

who

> > have

> > > > not

> > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

> > untrue

> > > > and

> > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2006

dear maria

akin to romanians like you, i also believe the positive side of vlad

tepes. most of the strict law enforcing measures imposed by the

dracula are still in practice even today in some countries and no

one condemns or criticise them for fear of religious backlash.

all emperors are heroes for their countries and devils for the

enemies.

nice feeling to have contributors from romania as well in this group.

with best wishes

pandit arjun

(giving is the positive synonym of losing)

, maria zacharia

<maria_zacharia2001 wrote:

>

> I am a Romanian, and I can tell you that all that the

> movies usually present about Dracula is pure fiction.

> If you want to learn more about Vlad the Impaler, type

> in google "Vlad Tepes" . this is the Romanian for

> "the impaler".

> Another suggestion for your research is to link his

> name "Dracul" which usually means the evil one, to the

> ancient name of the Dragon's Order. Dracul In Romanian

> standed long time ago for both devil and dragon. New

> studies show Vlad's apartenece to a secret order of

> Dragons.

> some others suggest his links to the draconians or

> reptoids.

> Hope that this will be helpful to you.

>

> Maria

>

> --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> > dear friends

> >

> > if any of you have or know the resources where birth

> > details of

> > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to

> > study the same for

> > my own research. the reason for my study is based

> > on the following:

> >

> > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula

> > are entirely

> > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire

> > or some flying

> > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and

> > comes out in the

> > night. all these are fictions.

> >

> > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

> > romania who was

> > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and

> > was a god

> > fearing christian and practiced christianity for

> > several years. he

> > also led several wars in protecting his christian

> > country from the

> > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law

> > and order in the

> > country that a golden cup was kept at a public

> > square openly and it

> > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire

> > tenure.

> > according to history books, he killed all money

> > minting merchants

> > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also

> > impaled all

> > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce

> > strict law and

> > order.

> >

> > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in

> > love (who

> > approached me through this group for reading his

> > chart for failure

> > of love) started saying that failure in love would

> > create a dracula

> > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the

> > girls who have not

> > doled out their love. as per history all these

> > myths are untrue and

> > he is an entirely different personality.

> >

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> >

> > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE

> > DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

> >

July 31, 2006

Dear Pandit,

, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004

wrote:

>

> dear haizen

>

> there must be some nocturnal connection in all of us without which

> we would not be discussing this subject here!

You may be right. Do I detect fang marks on your neck? Mine are finally

healing.

> by the way, i have

> been practicing exorcism for the past several years and nice noting

> that creatures of dark are patronising you as well!

You are an intuitive man. But I'd be much happier with the Dark Side

if they'd bring some champange and caviar on their visits. Ever clean

up after an exorcism? Not to mention their scratch marks on the ceiling

from hanging upside down.

I put up with it because I have a stake in their future. :-)

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

> (always strive be in the giving position, if you have nothing to

> give, give your best wishes)

Exorcising in Sedona....Haizen

> , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pandit,

> >

> > Yes, my chart collection is somewhat good and it's surprising how

> > many charts I've found under Google. If you have some favorites,

> > let me know and I'll see what I have. Sorry that I don't have more

> > of an Indian collection of great Bollywood films stars and

> producers.

> >

> > But speaking of the dark side, certain charts are of definite

> ghouish

> > delight and I have number of vampire clients. (Naturally, they

> prefer to

> > remain anonymous under penalty of death.) Some of them say I have

> > a special flair of reading their charts and I am affectionately

> known as

> > The Astrologer to the Cloaks.

> >

> > Happy Viewing,

> > Haizen

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friend haizen

> > >

> > > thanks for your good analysis of a ghoulish chart. seems like

> you

> > > have good collection of charts of all kinds and in future shall

> > > bother you too for any reference.

> > >

> > > with best wishes

> > > pandit arjun

> > > (a doctor's quote: "I treat, he (god) cures")

> > >

> > > , "haizen" <haizen@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > > >

> > > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> > > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela Lugosi:

> > > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> > > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal

> activities;

> > > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish

> charm;

> > > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females; and

> > > Venus

> > > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings may

> have

> > > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight nocturnal;

> > > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the light;

> and

> > > Venus

> > > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the

> grave.

> > > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

> > > can 'Count'

> > > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine

> because of

> > > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'. Enjoy.

> > > >

> > > > Haizen

> > > >

> > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please also study this article, as you research this topic:

> > > > >

> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > > >

> > > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a

> wonderful

> > > area

> > > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

> > > shockingly

> > > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see that

> you

> > > are

> > > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > > >

> > > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had collected as

> I

> > > got

> > > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still

> exists

> > > and has

> > > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on

> some

> > > garbage

> > > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look

> into it

> > > for

> > > > > you and transmit it!

> > > > >

> > > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the

> mayavini

> > > world

> > > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any

> interest?

> > > I

> > > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection remains

> out

> > > of

> > > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > dear friends

> > > > > >

> > > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth

> details

> > > of

> > > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to study

> the

> > > same

> > > > > for

> > > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on the

> > > following:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

> > > entirely

> > > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire or

> some

> > > flying

> > > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and comes

> out

> > > in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

> romania

> > > who

> > > > > was

> > > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and was a

> god

> > > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for several

> > > years. he

> > > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian country

> from

> > > the

> > > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and

> order in

> > > the

> > > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square

> openly

> > > and it

> > > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire

> tenure.

> > > > > > according to history books, he killed all money minting

> > > merchants

> > > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also impaled

> all

> > > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce strict

> law

> > > and

> > > > > > order.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in love

> (who

> > > > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart for

> > > failure

> > > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would create

> a

> > > dracula

> > > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the girls

> who

> > > have

> > > > > not

> > > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths are

> > > untrue

> > > > > and

> > > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2006

Dear RR,

, "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Haizen,

>

> No not politicians! They are just not pretty to look at, in any sense

> of that term! But you can have them if you so desire!!

Thanks anyway but I'll have to pass. After the last presidental election,

when so many fine astrologers went down in flames predicting a Kerry

win--I swore them off forever. I haven't admired any politician since

JFK, and everyone knows what happened to *him*. Darn!

> Or perhaps

> vampires might be a safer choice!!!

Now you're talking. They have a consistent character one can 'Count'

on, and you always know what you're going to get on a ghoul's night out.

> I speak from a point of total ignorance, as you can tell ;-)

Well, I should hope so. If you were consorting with demons and vampires,

rather than breaking up food fights on JR, I'd be seriously disillusioned,

esp. after downloading so many of your fine vedic lessons over the years. ;-)

The only drawback is your attitude: it's much too balanced, sane and

normal. I recommend hanging out with some fledgling vampires so you're

more like the rest of us. But through strenuous hit and miss methods, I'm

improving.

> RR

Haizen

>

> , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ranjan,

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Of course!

> > >

> > > Something I am interested in, though, and hopefully someday will

> > > pursue more intently is the "Masks nativities wear ...!"

> >

> > You mean the charts of politicians?? ;-)

> >

> > > Actors and stars obviously would make rich material because they

> have

> > > so many masks and roles. I am sure, that it would be an

> interesting

> > > study, because though it is difficult to impossible to get to the

> > > real personality of celebrities (even if one manages to get their

> > > real data), their masks are visible (through their roles) and

> surely

> > > must have prominent markers in their charts.

> >

> > Interesting point you bring up. I've been noticing a number of

> actor's

> > charts with a Mercury/Ketu aspect. They could sell a refrigerator to

> > an eskimo--the great deceiver or the great performer of someone

> > else's words. But when I think of living with a famous actress

> having

> > that aspect--not that I've been asked to, lol--I would probably

> never

> > know when she was being real or faking in bed, lol. But I love being

> > fooled at the cinema. The great performers appear to take on these

> > other identities body and soul.

> >

> > > I don't mean any and every role, but the biggies!

> >

> > Right.

> >

> > > RR

> >

> > Haizen

> >

> > > , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Wise man! I am of course kidding about vampire clients and

> studying

> > > > the dead. ;-)

> > > >

> > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Psst ... I forgot to add this to my earlier response. I am

> > > personally

> > > > > not interested in studying vampirism in a chart. The living

> are

> > > > > complex enough and are such rich material for research

> without me

> > > > > exploring the living dead!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , "haizen" <haizen@>

> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ranjan,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Lahiri so emphatically? Haizen?? And I thought I knew

> you!

> > > > > Shocking,

> > > > > > > I say SIR!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Are you joking and pulling my lagna, or do your prefer

> something

> > > > > > other than Lahiri? (You straddle the line between wit and

> > > wisdom so

> > > > > > well that I'm not always able to tell, lol.) If you wish to

> > > discuss

> > > > > > ayanamshas, I actually use a different one according to the

> day

> > > of

> > > > > > the weak, the shirt I'm wearing, or my particular mood,

> lol...

> > > All

> > > > > > seriousness aside, I mention ascendant degree because the

> > > > > coordinates

> > > > > > for Lugos are sometimes hard to find...I think Bela tried

> to

> > > hide

> > > > > them

> > > > > > under his cloak.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Thanks for correcting my bias from Christopber Lee to

> Lugosi.

> > > Not

> > > > > > > talking about the ayanamsha bias, yet! ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > No problem. I am here to expand your vampire horizons...and

> let

> > > me

> > > > > > know what day of the week it is and I'll tell my current

> > > ayanamsha.

> > > > > > Funny about ayanamshas, they're so instrumental but no one

> ever

> > > > > > seems to argue about them. Have any theories on this?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > ranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Haizen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "haizen"

> <haizen@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most

> famous

> > > > > > > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela

> > > Lugosi:

> > > > > > > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54,

> 22AQ33

> > > > > > > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal

> > > > > activities;

> > > > > > > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for

> ghoulish

> > > charm;

> > > > > > > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on

> females;

> > > and

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the

> feelings

> > > may

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight

> > > nocturnal;

> > > > > > > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the

> > > light;

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of

> the

> > > > > grave.

> > > > > > > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that

> one

> > > > > > > can 'Count'

> > > > > > > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine

> > > because

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been

> to 'cryptic'.

> > > Enjoy.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Haizen

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , "crystal

> pages"

> > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Please also study this article, as you research this

> > > topic:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a

> > > wonderful

> > > > > > > area

> > > > > > > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase,

> I

> > > > > shockingly

> > > > > > > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to

> see

> > > that

> > > > > you

> > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had

> collected

> > > as

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > got

> > > > > > > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it

> still

> > > exists

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out

> on

> > > some

> > > > > > > garbage

> > > > > > > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will

> look

> > > into

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > you and transmit it!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the

> > > mayavini

> > > > > > > world

> > > > > > > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere.

> Any

> > > > > interest?

> > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection

> > > remains

> > > > > out

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > dear friends

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where

> birth

> > > > > details of

> > > > > > > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to

> study

> > > the

> > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based

> on

> > > the

> > > > > > > following:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula

> are

> > > > > entirely

> > > > > > > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking

> vampire or

> > > > > some

> > > > > > > flying

> > > > > > > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and

> > > comes

> > > > > out

> > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince

> from

> > > > > romania

> > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara

> and

> > > was a

> > > > > god

> > > > > > > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for

> > > several

> > > > > > > years. he

> > > > > > > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian

> > > country

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law

> and

> > > order

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public

> square

> > > > > openly

> > > > > > > and it

> > > > > > > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire

> > > tenure.

> > > > > > > > > > according to history books, he killed all money

> minting

> > > > > > > merchants

> > > > > > > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also

> > > impaled

> > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce

> > > strict

> > > > > law

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > order.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure

> in

> > > love

> > > > > (who

> > > > > > > > > > approached me through this group for reading his

> chart

> > > for

> > > > > > > failure

> > > > > > > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would

> > > create a

> > > > > > > dracula

> > > > > > > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the

> girls

> > > who

> > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these

> myths

> > > are

> > > > > > > untrue

> > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2006

dear haizen

as a matter of fact six years ago one fang started growing in me and

got that removed by a dentist (when it was around two and half

centimeters length) as i was quite uncomfortable with it. i still

have it in my memorabilia.

exorcism is my favourite subject eversince childhood when my nephew

(who was named after me) was possessed and lost his life and i could

not save his life then. eversince it was a good experience to do

these celansing acts off and on.

truly, you too are a blessed person as i could see you doing a great

service to the society at large.

with best wishes and blessigns

pandit arjun

(rolling magnet gathers much mass)

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Dear Pandit,

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004@>

> wrote:

> >

> > dear haizen

> >

> > there must be some nocturnal connection in all of us without

which

> > we would not be discussing this subject here!

>

> You may be right. Do I detect fang marks on your neck? Mine are

finally

> healing.

>

> > by the way, i have

> > been practicing exorcism for the past several years and nice

noting

> > that creatures of dark are patronising you as well!

>

> You are an intuitive man. But I'd be much happier with the Dark

Side

> if they'd bring some champange and caviar on their visits. Ever

clean

> up after an exorcism? Not to mention their scratch marks on the

ceiling

> from hanging upside down.

>

> I put up with it because I have a stake in their future. :-)

>

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> > (always strive be in the giving position, if you have nothing to

> > give, give your best wishes)

>

> Exorcising in Sedona....Haizen

>

> > , "haizen" <haizen@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Pandit,

> > >

> > > Yes, my chart collection is somewhat good and it's surprising

how

> > > many charts I've found under Google. If you have some

favorites,

> > > let me know and I'll see what I have. Sorry that I don't have

more

> > > of an Indian collection of great Bollywood films stars and

> > producers.

> > >

> > > But speaking of the dark side, certain charts are of definite

> > ghouish

> > > delight and I have number of vampire clients. (Naturally, they

> > prefer to

> > > remain anonymous under penalty of death.) Some of them say I

have

> > > a special flair of reading their charts and I am

affectionately

> > known as

> > > The Astrologer to the Cloaks.

> > >

> > > Happy Viewing,

> > > Haizen

> > >

> > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > dear friend haizen

> > > >

> > > > thanks for your good analysis of a ghoulish chart. seems

like

> > you

> > > > have good collection of charts of all kinds and in future

shall

> > > > bother you too for any reference.

> > > >

> > > > with best wishes

> > > > pandit arjun

> > > > (a doctor's quote: "I treat, he (god) cures")

> > > >

> > > > , "haizen" <haizen@>

> > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> > > > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela

Lugosi:

> > > > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> > > > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal

> > activities;

> > > > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish

> > charm;

> > > > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females;

and

> > > > Venus

> > > > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings

may

> > have

> > > > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight

nocturnal;

> > > > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the

light;

> > and

> > > > Venus

> > > > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the

> > grave.

> > > > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

> > > > can 'Count'

> > > > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine

> > because of

> > > > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'.

Enjoy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Haizen

> > > > >

> > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Please also study this article, as you research this

topic:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a

> > wonderful

> > > > area

> > > > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

> > > > shockingly

> > > > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see

that

> > you

> > > > are

> > > > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had

collected as

> > I

> > > > got

> > > > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still

> > exists

> > > > and has

> > > > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on

> > some

> > > > garbage

> > > > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look

> > into it

> > > > for

> > > > > > you and transmit it!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the

> > mayavini

> > > > world

> > > > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any

> > interest?

> > > > I

> > > > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection

remains

> > out

> > > > of

> > > > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

, "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > dear friends

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth

> > details

> > > > of

> > > > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to

study

> > the

> > > > same

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on

the

> > > > following:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

> > > > entirely

> > > > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire

or

> > some

> > > > flying

> > > > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and

comes

> > out

> > > > in

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

> > romania

> > > > who

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and

was a

> > god

> > > > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for

several

> > > > years. he

> > > > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian

country

> > from

> > > > the

> > > > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and

> > order in

> > > > the

> > > > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square

> > openly

> > > > and it

> > > > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire

> > tenure.

> > > > > > > according to history books, he killed all money

minting

> > > > merchants

> > > > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also

impaled

> > all

> > > > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce

strict

> > law

> > > > and

> > > > > > > order.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in

love

> > (who

> > > > > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart

for

> > > > failure

> > > > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would

create

> > a

> > > > dracula

> > > > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the

girls

> > who

> > > > have

> > > > > > not

> > > > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths

are

> > > > untrue

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2006

You can tell, I am speechless!

RR

<Scapegoats for flaws in our perception: WORDS! They can reward,

punish, confuse or even illuminate. The very same words!>

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Dear RR,

>

> , "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Haizen,

> >

> > No not politicians! They are just not pretty to look at, in any

sense

> > of that term! But you can have them if you so desire!!

>

> Thanks anyway but I'll have to pass. After the last presidental

election,

> when so many fine astrologers went down in flames predicting a

Kerry

> win--I swore them off forever. I haven't admired any politician

since

> JFK, and everyone knows what happened to *him*. Darn!

>

> > Or perhaps

> > vampires might be a safer choice!!!

>

> Now you're talking. They have a consistent character one can 'Count'

> on, and you always know what you're going to get on a ghoul's night

out.

>

> > I speak from a point of total ignorance, as you can tell ;-)

>

> Well, I should hope so. If you were consorting with demons and

vampires,

> rather than breaking up food fights on JR, I'd be seriously

disillusioned,

> esp. after downloading so many of your fine vedic lessons over the

years. ;-)

> The only drawback is your attitude: it's much too balanced, sane

and

> normal. I recommend hanging out with some fledgling vampires so

you're

> more like the rest of us. But through strenuous hit and miss

methods, I'm

> improving.

>

> > RR

>

> Haizen

>

> >

> > , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ranjan,

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Of course!

> > > >

> > > > Something I am interested in, though, and hopefully someday

will

> > > > pursue more intently is the "Masks nativities wear ...!"

> > >

> > > You mean the charts of politicians?? ;-)

> > >

> > > > Actors and stars obviously would make rich material because

they

> > have

> > > > so many masks and roles. I am sure, that it would be an

> > interesting

> > > > study, because though it is difficult to impossible to get to

the

> > > > real personality of celebrities (even if one manages to get

their

> > > > real data), their masks are visible (through their roles) and

> > surely

> > > > must have prominent markers in their charts.

> > >

> > > Interesting point you bring up. I've been noticing a number of

> > actor's

> > > charts with a Mercury/Ketu aspect. They could sell a

refrigerator to

> > > an eskimo--the great deceiver or the great performer of someone

> > > else's words. But when I think of living with a famous actress

> > having

> > > that aspect--not that I've been asked to, lol--I would probably

> > never

> > > know when she was being real or faking in bed, lol. But I love

being

> > > fooled at the cinema. The great performers appear to take on

these

> > > other identities body and soul.

> > >

> > > > I don't mean any and every role, but the biggies!

> > >

> > > Right.

> > >

> > > > RR

> > >

> > > Haizen

> > >

> > > > , "haizen" <haizen@>

wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Wise man! I am of course kidding about vampire clients and

> > studying

> > > > > the dead. ;-)

> > > > >

> > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Psst ... I forgot to add this to my earlier response. I

am

> > > > personally

> > > > > > not interested in studying vampirism in a chart. The

living

> > are

> > > > > > complex enough and are such rich material for research

> > without me

> > > > > > exploring the living dead!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "haizen"

<haizen@>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Ranjan,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , "crystal

pages"

> > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Lahiri so emphatically? Haizen?? And I thought I knew

> > you!

> > > > > > Shocking,

> > > > > > > > I say SIR!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Are you joking and pulling my lagna, or do your prefer

> > something

> > > > > > > other than Lahiri? (You straddle the line between wit

and

> > > > wisdom so

> > > > > > > well that I'm not always able to tell, lol.) If you

wish to

> > > > discuss

> > > > > > > ayanamshas, I actually use a different one according to

the

> > day

> > > > of

> > > > > > > the weak, the shirt I'm wearing, or my particular mood,

> > lol...

> > > > All

> > > > > > > seriousness aside, I mention ascendant degree because

the

> > > > > > coordinates

> > > > > > > for Lugos are sometimes hard to find...I think Bela

tried

> > to

> > > > hide

> > > > > > them

> > > > > > > under his cloak.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Thanks for correcting my bias from Christopber Lee to

> > Lugosi.

> > > > Not

> > > > > > > > talking about the ayanamsha bias, yet! ;-)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > No problem. I am here to expand your vampire

horizons...and

> > let

> > > > me

> > > > > > > know what day of the week it is and I'll tell my

current

> > > > ayanamsha.

> > > > > > > Funny about ayanamshas, they're so instrumental but no

one

> > ever

> > > > > > > seems to argue about them. Have any theories on this?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Haizen

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > , "haizen"

> > <haizen@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most

> > famous

> > > > > > > > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on

Bela

> > > > Lugosi:

> > > > > > > > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54,

> > 22AQ33

> > > > > > > > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of

nocturnal

> > > > > > activities;

> > > > > > > > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for

> > ghoulish

> > > > charm;

> > > > > > > > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on

> > females;

> > > > and

> > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the

> > feelings

> > > > may

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is

midnight

> > > > nocturnal;

> > > > > > > > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to

the

> > > > light;

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > Venus

> > > > > > > > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures

of

> > the

> > > > > > grave.

> > > > > > > > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights

that

> > one

> > > > > > > > can 'Count'

> > > > > > > > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to

morphine

> > > > because

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been

> > to 'cryptic'.

> > > > Enjoy.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Haizen

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > , "crystal

> > pages"

> > > > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Please also study this article, as you research

this

> > > > topic:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What

a

> > > > wonderful

> > > > > > > > area

> > > > > > > > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the

increase,

> > I

> > > > > > shockingly

> > > > > > > > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy

to

> > see

> > > > that

> > > > > > you

> > > > > > > > are

> > > > > > > > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had

> > collected

> > > > as

> > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > got

> > > > > > > > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it

> > still

> > > > exists

> > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left

out

> > on

> > > > some

> > > > > > > > garbage

> > > > > > > > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I

will

> > look

> > > > into

> > > > > > it

> > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > you and transmit it!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in

the

> > > > mayavini

> > > > > > > > world

> > > > > > > > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata

somewhere.

> > Any

> > > > > > interest?

> > > > > > > > I

> > > > > > > > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological

collection

> > > > remains

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > dear friends

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where

> > birth

> > > > > > details of

> > > > > > > > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish

to

> > study

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > same

> > > > > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is

based

> > on

> > > > the

> > > > > > > > following:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of

dracula

> > are

> > > > > > entirely

> > > > > > > > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking

> > vampire or

> > > > > > some

> > > > > > > > flying

> > > > > > > > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day

and

> > > > comes

> > > > > > out

> > > > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince

> > from

> > > > > > romania

> > > > > > > > who

> > > > > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in

sighisoara

> > and

> > > > was a

> > > > > > god

> > > > > > > > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity

for

> > > > several

> > > > > > > > years. he

> > > > > > > > > > > also led several wars in protecting his

christian

> > > > country

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining

law

> > and

> > > > order

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public

> > square

> > > > > > openly

> > > > > > > > and it

> > > > > > > > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his

entire

> > > > tenure.

> > > > > > > > > > > according to history books, he killed all money

> > minting

> > > > > > > > merchants

> > > > > > > > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and

also

> > > > impaled

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to

enforce

> > > > strict

> > > > > > law

> > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > order.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a

failure

> > in

> > > > love

> > > > > > (who

> > > > > > > > > > > approached me through this group for reading

his

> > chart

> > > > for

> > > > > > > > failure

> > > > > > > > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love

would

> > > > create a

> > > > > > > > dracula

> > > > > > > > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against

the

> > girls

> > > > who

> > > > > > > > have

> > > > > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these

> > myths

> > > > are

> > > > > > > > untrue

> > > > > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

July 31, 2006

Dear Pandit,

Thank you for such a heart-felt reply.

, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004

wrote:

>

> dear haizen

>

> as a matter of fact six years ago one fang started growing in me and

> got that removed by a dentist (when it was around two and half

> centimeters length) as i was quite uncomfortable with it. i still

> have it in my memorabilia.

It's good to know you nipped this tendency in the bud before the second

one came in. Too many fangs have a way of making one a social pariah

at pot-lucks, coming out parties, and gatherings with in-laws.

> exorcism is my favourite subject eversince childhood when my nephew

> (who was named after me) was possessed and lost his life and i could

> not save his life then. eversince it was a good experience to do

> these celansing acts off and on.

Now I take it you are talking about this matter seriously, and I will assume

so. My serious response--and this is true--is that I was trained to do

exorcisms and did some in my past. I was doing energy medicine at the

time and had personal experiences with those who were possessed by

earth-bound entities or obsessive thought forms. I consider possession

much more common than it's thought to be, and the person experiences

immediate relief after the entity or thought-form is removed. If the problem

is severe--and I'm not talking about something like out of Exorcist movie--

it usually takes at least three people and their combined energy to dislodge

whatever is in the person's energy field. What opens the person up to

these experiences in the first place is usually tremendous fear, shame or

guilt.

There's more I could say on the subject, so perhaps next time. I'm sorry

for your brother. This must have been a tremendous loss for you. Please

tell me more about it and what you tried to do. Sometimes the loose ends

of the past circle around for closure, and your brother may be in the

neighborhood wanting to reach out. There is healing beyond time and space.

> truly, you too are a blessed person as i could see you doing a great

> service to the society at large.

Thank you my friend. Sometimes I wonder. But I at least have to try. It's

been a very unusual life-time and I feel that I'm burning off the karma of

a thousand years by paying of my selfish debts through service. If I

live long enough, I may bring the ledger closer to balance or at least get

out of the red. The good side of it is that limitations force one to become

truly unlimited and perhaps unusally creative.

> with best wishes and blessigns

> pandit arjun

> (rolling magnet gathers much mass)

May all that belongs to you by divine right, come to you instantly,

if not sooner.

With warmth and appreciation....Haizen

>

> , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Pandit,

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > dear haizen

> > >

> > > there must be some nocturnal connection in all of us without

> which

> > > we would not be discussing this subject here!

> >

> > You may be right. Do I detect fang marks on your neck? Mine are

> finally

> > healing.

> >

> > > by the way, i have

> > > been practicing exorcism for the past several years and nice

> noting

> > > that creatures of dark are patronising you as well!

> >

> > You are an intuitive man. But I'd be much happier with the Dark

> Side

> > if they'd bring some champange and caviar on their visits. Ever

> clean

> > up after an exorcism? Not to mention their scratch marks on the

> ceiling

> > from hanging upside down.

> >

> > I put up with it because I have a stake in their future. :-)

> >

> > > with best wishes

> > > pandit arjun

> > > (always strive be in the giving position, if you have nothing to

> > > give, give your best wishes)

> >

> > Exorcising in Sedona....Haizen

> >

> > > , "haizen" <haizen@>

> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Pandit,

> > > >

> > > > Yes, my chart collection is somewhat good and it's surprising

> how

> > > > many charts I've found under Google. If you have some

> favorites,

> > > > let me know and I'll see what I have. Sorry that I don't have

> more

> > > > of an Indian collection of great Bollywood films stars and

> > > producers.

> > > >

> > > > But speaking of the dark side, certain charts are of definite

> > > ghouish

> > > > delight and I have number of vampire clients. (Naturally, they

> > > prefer to

> > > > remain anonymous under penalty of death.) Some of them say I

> have

> > > > a special flair of reading their charts and I am

> affectionately

> > > known as

> > > > The Astrologer to the Cloaks.

> > > >

> > > > Happy Viewing,

> > > > Haizen

> > > >

> > > > , "panditarjun2004"

> > > <panditarjun2004@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > dear friend haizen

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks for your good analysis of a ghoulish chart. seems

> like

> > > you

> > > > > have good collection of charts of all kinds and in future

> shall

> > > > > bother you too for any reference.

> > > > >

> > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > (a doctor's quote: "I treat, he (god) cures")

> > > > >

> > > > > , "haizen" <haizen@>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Vampire-ists ;-)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If anyone should be interested in perhaps the most famous

> > > > > > movie Dracula of all, here's the particulars on Bela

> Lugosi:

> > > > > > Oct. 20, 1882, 15:30, Lugos, Hungary, 45N41, 21E54, 22AQ33

> > > > > > (Lahiri)...Moon in Capricorn in the 12H of nocturnal

> > > activities;

> > > > > > Saturn in Taurus aspecting Venus in Scorpio for ghoulish

> > > charm;

> > > > > > Rahu in Libra for the urge "to put the bite" on females;

> and

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > and Mars in Parivartana yoga to indicate that the feelings

> may

> > > have

> > > > > > been mutual. Saturn as lagnesh in the 4H is midnight

> nocturnal;

> > > > > > Sun debilitated in Libra portrays his aversion to the

> light;

> > > and

> > > > > Venus

> > > > > > aspecting Saturn in the 4H indicates the pleasures of the

> > > grave.

> > > > > > Overall, this chart is full of ghoulish delights that one

> > > > > can 'Count'

> > > > > > on...Later in life Bela Lugosi was addicted to morphine

> > > because of

> > > > > > back pain. Hope these remarks haven't been to 'cryptic'.

> Enjoy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Haizen

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Arjunbhai,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Please also study this article, as you research this

> topic:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Iron, mars, functional anaemia -- vampirism. What a

> > > wonderful

> > > > > area

> > > > > > > for exploration. Vampirism has been on the increase, I

> > > > > shockingly

> > > > > > > came to the realization in early 90s. I am happy to see

> that

> > > you

> > > > > are

> > > > > > > taking an active interest in it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > There is some stuff that some decades ago I had

> collected as

> > > I

> > > > > got

> > > > > > > interested in this area several years ago. If it still

> > > exists

> > > > > and has

> > > > > > > not been not sold in a 'garage sale' or just left out on

> > > some

> > > > > garbage

> > > > > > > collection day by prevailing 'deities', then I will look

> > > into it

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > you and transmit it!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Christopher Lee has been the iconical Dracula in the

> > > mayavini

> > > > > world

> > > > > > > of movies. I think I have his birthdata somewhere. Any

> > > interest?

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > have slyly made sure that my astrological collection

> remains

> > > out

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > the reach of prevailing deities!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> , "panditarjun2004"

> > > > > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > dear friends

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > if any of you have or know the resources where birth

> > > details

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > dracula are available, please advise as i wish to

> study

> > > the

> > > > > same

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > my own research. the reason for my study is based on

> the

> > > > > following:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the filmi version and the novel version of dracula are

> > > > > entirely

> > > > > > > > false as they project him as a blood sucking vampire

> or

> > > some

> > > > > flying

> > > > > > > > evil or one who sleeps in his coffin during day and

> comes

> > > out

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > night. all these are fictions.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the real dracula (vlad dracul III) was a prince from

> > > romania

> > > > > who

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > born in november or december, 1431 in sighisoara and

> was a

> > > god

> > > > > > > > fearing christian and practiced christianity for

> several

> > > > > years. he

> > > > > > > > also led several wars in protecting his christian

> country

> > > from

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > invaders. he was so ferocious in maintaining law and

> > > order in

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > country that a golden cup was kept at a public square

> > > openly

> > > > > and it

> > > > > > > > remained untouched and unstealed during his entire

> > > tenure.

> > > > > > > > according to history books, he killed all money

> minting

> > > > > merchants

> > > > > > > > and also killed all the sick and beggars and also

> impaled

> > > all

> > > > > > > > immoral girls and women in his country to enforce

> strict

> > > law

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > > order.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > the above study was prompted by me when a failure in

> love

> > > (who

> > > > > > > > approached me through this group for reading his chart

> for

> > > > > failure

> > > > > > > > of love) started saying that failure in love would

> create

> > > a

> > > > > dracula

> > > > > > > > of an ordinary person to take revenge against the

> girls

> > > who

> > > > > have

> > > > > > > not

> > > > > > > > doled out their love. as per history all these myths

> are

> > > > > untrue

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > > he is an entirely different personality.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > with best wishes

> > > > > > > > pandit arjun

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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