Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Dear, I have two queries. a)Does Jupiter in 6th house with Saturn in Capricorn cancel the debilation of Jupiter ? b) What if they both are retrogade ? regards, Bhaskar. , Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000 wrote: > > Dear Ashutosh ji, > > I fully agree to your view that debilitation cannot be cancelled fully. > The highest level of cancellation can occur when the lord of the sign where the planet is debilitated is itself exalted. In general we should check the strength of the lord of the sign in which the planet is debilitated. > > May God Bless All > > > > astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote: > Dear Alka, > > When moon is the depositor then no need to look from the moon itself. Only the angles from ascendent will be seen here. > > The second rule: > > For example, mars is debiliated in cancer, then the lord of the sign of exaltation of mars (not moon) should be in kendra from moon or ascendent. > > But, here are some misconceptions too. > > The cancellation of debiliation does not occur only by depositior's placement in kendra, but the depositor should also be strong by being placed in own house or in exaltation. A mediocre depositor will not cancel the debiliation. > > The debiliation is not cancelled by simple aspect of depositor on debiliated planet. > > The debiliation is never cancelled in totality, it is only reduced. > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > [The services of this professional astrologer are free on this group but off-group consultations are chargeable] > > - > Alka Saini > > Friday, 28 July, 2006 13:38 > cancellation of debility?? > > Hi, > > I am beginner in astrology and I seek some clarifications for cancellation of debility. I have read the following 4 points about cancellation of debility. > > 1. If the dipositor of the debilitated planet is in an angulare house from ascendant or the moon. > 2. If the lord of the sign where such a planet is exalted is in an angle from the acendant or the moon. > 3. If the debilitated planet is aspected by its dipositor. > 4. The debilitated planet is in own or exalted Navamasa. > > What I have understood dispositor as: e.g. if mars is placed in cancer, then dispositor of mars is moon. Is my understanding correct for dispositor? > > Now my doubts: > > 1. If mars is placed in cancer, its dispositor will always be moon, which will be in an angle from moon. So, does that mean that mars never gets debilitated or in other words, debiliation gets cancelled due to moon. > > 2. I have not understood the rule number 2 properly. I try by example and u ppl let me know if i am correct. say again if mars is debiliated (cancer), so do we have to look at jupiter (it gets exalted in cancer) and check if it is in an angular house from moon or asecendant. Or we to check the exaltation sign of mars (capricorn) that whether it is in an angular house from moon or asecendant. > > 3. if debility is cancelled, then we don't need to perform any remedies for debilitated planet? > > Kindly answer my queries. > > Alka > > > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Dear Bhaskarji, The placement of saturn does lowers the debilitated effect of jupiter but still I will believe that the jupiter is not as strong. The retrograde effect of jupiter and saturn does not make any difference in the natal chart except that both of them gain additional strength(whether malefic or benefic) in bestowing its result. May God Bless All bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear, I have two queries. a)Does Jupiter in 6th house with Saturn in Capricorn cancel the debilation of Jupiter ? b) What if they both are retrogade ? regards, Bhaskar. , Sumit Bajaj <sumitbajaj2000 wrote: > > Dear Ashutosh ji, > > I fully agree to your view that debilitation cannot be cancelled fully. > The highest level of cancellation can occur when the lord of the sign where the planet is debilitated is itself exalted. In general we should check the strength of the lord of the sign in which the planet is debilitated. > > May God Bless All > > > > astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh wrote: > Dear Alka, > > When moon is the depositor then no need to look from the moon itself. Only the angles from ascendent will be seen here. > > The second rule: > > For example, mars is debiliated in cancer, then the lord of the sign of exaltation of mars (not moon) should be in kendra from moon or ascendent. > > But, here are some misconceptions too. > > The cancellation of debiliation does not occur only by depositior's placement in kendra, but the depositor should also be strong by being placed in own house or in exaltation. A mediocre depositor will not cancel the debiliation. > > The debiliation is not cancelled by simple aspect of depositor on debiliated planet. > > The debiliation is never cancelled in totality, it is only reduced. > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > [The services of this professional astrologer are free on this group but off-group consultations are chargeable] > > - > Alka Saini > > Friday, 28 July, 2006 13:38 > cancellation of debility?? > > Hi, > > I am beginner in astrology and I seek some clarifications for cancellation of debility. I have read the following 4 points about cancellation of debility. > > 1. If the dipositor of the debilitated planet is in an angulare house from ascendant or the moon. > 2. If the lord of the sign where such a planet is exalted is in an angle from the acendant or the moon. > 3. If the debilitated planet is aspected by its dipositor. > 4. The debilitated planet is in own or exalted Navamasa. > > What I have understood dispositor as: e.g. if mars is placed in cancer, then dispositor of mars is moon. Is my understanding correct for dispositor? > > Now my doubts: > > 1. If mars is placed in cancer, its dispositor will always be moon, which will be in an angle from moon. So, does that mean that mars never gets debilitated or in other words, debiliation gets cancelled due to moon. > > 2. I have not understood the rule number 2 properly. I try by example and u ppl let me know if i am correct. say again if mars is debiliated (cancer), so do we have to look at jupiter (it gets exalted in cancer) and check if it is in an angular house from moon or asecendant. Or we to check the exaltation sign of mars (capricorn) that whether it is in an angular house from moon or asecendant. > > 3. if debility is cancelled, then we don't need to perform any remedies for debilitated planet? > > Kindly answer my queries. > > Alka > > > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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