Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Dear Gopu, My two cents on it as i find your posting very disturbing ... sandhya vandanam is to be performed only when you are initiated into...by way of upanayam... further it is just the process of purification of self before praying for gayatri and reciting gayatri mantra and praying to other devatas...if you see the starting point, you will understand it requires sankalpa and it ends with abivadaye...every family follows some tradition like rig veda, yajur and sama...if that tradition has not taught you to perform sandhya vandanam, then you cannot go against it...it will involve only bad karma..this is my views Bhaskar it is my suggestion that for your rahu maha dasa, go to the nearest temple, make request with the temple authorities to allow you to pour oil or ghee in the lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum...or alternatively you can offer the oil or ghee to the priest and see he pours the same inthe lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum... second worship sri ramanuja who is nothing but avatar of adiseshan, and if possible visit his native place, sriperumpudhur to have darshan of this great saint. third you can worship durga devi on rahu kalam by lighting lemon lamps in the temple... these are all very simple remedies with no harm or bad karma... this remedy will be effective for you controlling both sun and rahu...this is what i got from A M Rajagopalan, 82 years old divine jyotish , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > > dear Sri Bhaskar, > Sandhya vandanam audio cassettes are available and u > do have "how to perform sandhya vandanam" book, u can > buy these two and follow the same. all u need is > pancha patra udhrini ie copper/brass tumbler, plate > and spoon.this cassette chants mantras for morning, > afternoon and sunset. U can follow yajur vedam since > sama vedam has more of expressing mantras in a song > manner. > > with good wishes, > k.gopu > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 , "sriganeshh" <sriganeshh wrote: > > Dear Gopu, > > My two cents on it as i find your posting very disturbing ... > > sandhya vandanam is to be performed only when you are initiated > into...by way of upanayam... further it is just the process of > purification of self before praying for gayatri and reciting gayatri > mantra and praying to other devatas...if you see the starting point, > you will understand it requires sankalpa and it ends with > abivadaye...every family follows some tradition like rig veda, yajur > and sama...if that tradition has not taught you to perform sandhya > vandanam, then you cannot go against it...it will involve only bad > karma..this is my views > > Bhaskar > it is my suggestion that for your rahu maha dasa, go to the nearest > temple, make request with the temple authorities to allow you to > pour oil or ghee in the lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum...or > alternatively you can offer the oil or ghee to the priest and see he > pours the same inthe lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum... > > second worship sri ramanuja who is nothing but avatar of adiseshan, > and if possible visit his native place, sriperumpudhur to have > darshan of this great saint. > > third you can worship durga devi on rahu kalam by lighting lemon > lamps in the temple... > > these are all very simple remedies with no harm or bad karma... > this remedy will be effective for you controlling both sun and > rahu...this is what i got from A M Rajagopalan, 82 years old divine > jyotish > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > dear Sri Bhaskar, > > Sandhya vandanam audio cassettes are available and u > > do have "how to perform sandhya vandanam" book, u can > > buy these two and follow the same. all u need is > > pancha patra udhrini ie copper/brass tumbler, plate > > and spoon.this cassette chants mantras for morning, > > afternoon and sunset. U can follow yajur vedam since > > sama vedam has more of expressing mantras in a song > > manner. > > > > with good wishes, > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Sri Ganeshji, Thank You for your helpful concern. These remedies You have mentioned, I too have heard, and they are without harm or any untowards reaction, so I will certainly persue. I was in fact thinking last night which remedy could provide simultaneous grace both from Sun and Rahu at same time, and You have provided the answer. Thanks once again. Bhaskar. , "sriganeshh" <sriganeshh wrote: > > Dear Gopu, > > My two cents on it as i find your posting very disturbing ... > > sandhya vandanam is to be performed only when you are initiated > into...by way of upanayam... further it is just the process of > purification of self before praying for gayatri and reciting gayatri > mantra and praying to other devatas...if you see the starting point, > you will understand it requires sankalpa and it ends with > abivadaye...every family follows some tradition like rig veda, yajur > and sama...if that tradition has not taught you to perform sandhya > vandanam, then you cannot go against it...it will involve only bad > karma..this is my views > > Bhaskar > it is my suggestion that for your rahu maha dasa, go to the nearest > temple, make request with the temple authorities to allow you to > pour oil or ghee in the lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum...or > alternatively you can offer the oil or ghee to the priest and see he > pours the same inthe lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum... > > second worship sri ramanuja who is nothing but avatar of adiseshan, > and if possible visit his native place, sriperumpudhur to have > darshan of this great saint. > > third you can worship durga devi on rahu kalam by lighting lemon > lamps in the temple... > > these are all very simple remedies with no harm or bad karma... > this remedy will be effective for you controlling both sun and > rahu...this is what i got from A M Rajagopalan, 82 years old divine > jyotish > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > dear Sri Bhaskar, > > Sandhya vandanam audio cassettes are available and u > > do have "how to perform sandhya vandanam" book, u can > > buy these two and follow the same. all u need is > > pancha patra udhrini ie copper/brass tumbler, plate > > and spoon.this cassette chants mantras for morning, > > afternoon and sunset. U can follow yajur vedam since > > sama vedam has more of expressing mantras in a song > > manner. > > > > with good wishes, > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Dear Bhaskar, //simultaneous grace both from Sun and Rahu at same time// i missed one more thing..kalabhairav ashtakam. it is supposed to be very powerful remedy to control malefic effects of rahu...just browse through the messages section, you can find. You can get this either on web or at all religious book stores... > > > sriganeshh > > > > , "sriganeshh" > <sriganeshh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Gopu, > > > > My two cents on it as i find your posting very disturbing ... > > > > sandhya vandanam is to be performed only when you are initiated > > into...by way of upanayam... further it is just the process of > > purification of self before praying for gayatri and reciting > gayatri > > mantra and praying to other devatas...if you see the starting > point, > > you will understand it requires sankalpa and it ends with > > abivadaye...every family follows some tradition like rig veda, > yajur > > and sama...if that tradition has not taught you to perform sandhya > > vandanam, then you cannot go against it...it will involve only bad > > karma..this is my views > > > > Bhaskar > > it is my suggestion that for your rahu maha dasa, go to the nearest > > temple, make request with the temple authorities to allow you to > > pour oil or ghee in the lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum...or > > alternatively you can offer the oil or ghee to the priest and see > he > > pours the same inthe lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum... > > > > second worship sri ramanuja who is nothing but avatar of adiseshan, > > and if possible visit his native place, sriperumpudhur to have > > darshan of this great saint. > > > > third you can worship durga devi on rahu kalam by lighting lemon > > lamps in the temple... > > > > these are all very simple remedies with no harm or bad karma... > > this remedy will be effective for you controlling both sun and > > rahu...this is what i got from A M Rajagopalan, 82 years old divine > > jyotish > > > > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear Sri Bhaskar, > > > Sandhya vandanam audio cassettes are available and u > > > do have "how to perform sandhya vandanam" book, u can > > > buy these two and follow the same. all u need is > > > pancha patra udhrini ie copper/brass tumbler, plate > > > and spoon.this cassette chants mantras for morning, > > > afternoon and sunset. U can follow yajur vedam since > > > sama vedam has more of expressing mantras in a song > > > manner. > > > > > > with good wishes, > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 what about simple remedies like feeding ants simply ( or fill nariyal with khand and ghee - and bury underneath the peeple tree on amavasya). regards / Prafulla Gang This notion is more clearly understood by asking "What do I know?." > > sriganeshh > Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:29:02 -0000 > > Re: sandhya vandanam (Gopu / Bhaskar) > > Dear Bhaskar, > > //simultaneous grace both from Sun and Rahu at same time// > > i missed one more thing..kalabhairav ashtakam. it is supposed to be > very powerful remedy to control malefic effects of rahu...just > browse through the messages section, you can find. You can get this > either on web or at all religious book stores... >> >> >> sriganeshh >> >> >> >> , "sriganeshh" >> <sriganeshh@> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Gopu, >>> >>> My two cents on it as i find your posting very disturbing ... >>> >>> sandhya vandanam is to be performed only when you are initiated >>> into...by way of upanayam... further it is just the process of >>> purification of self before praying for gayatri and reciting >> gayatri >>> mantra and praying to other devatas...if you see the starting >> point, >>> you will understand it requires sankalpa and it ends with >>> abivadaye...every family follows some tradition like rig veda, >> yajur >>> and sama...if that tradition has not taught you to perform > sandhya >>> vandanam, then you cannot go against it...it will involve only > bad >>> karma..this is my views >>> >>> Bhaskar >>> it is my suggestion that for your rahu maha dasa, go to the > nearest >>> temple, make request with the temple authorities to allow you to >>> pour oil or ghee in the lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum...or >>> alternatively you can offer the oil or ghee to the priest and > see >> he >>> pours the same inthe lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum... >>> >>> second worship sri ramanuja who is nothing but avatar of > adiseshan, >>> and if possible visit his native place, sriperumpudhur to have >>> darshan of this great saint. >>> >>> third you can worship durga devi on rahu kalam by lighting lemon >>> lamps in the temple... >>> >>> these are all very simple remedies with no harm or bad karma... >>> this remedy will be effective for you controlling both sun and >>> rahu...this is what i got from A M Rajagopalan, 82 years old > divine >>> jyotish >>> >>> >>> , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> > wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> dear Sri Bhaskar, >>>> Sandhya vandanam audio cassettes are available and u >>>> do have "how to perform sandhya vandanam" book, u can >>>> buy these two and follow the same. all u need is >>>> pancha patra udhrini ie copper/brass tumbler, plate >>>> and spoon.this cassette chants mantras for morning, >>>> afternoon and sunset. U can follow yajur vedam since >>>> sama vedam has more of expressing mantras in a song >>>> manner. >>>> >>>> with good wishes, >>>> k.gopu >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > around >>>> >>>> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Dear Prafulla, yes, it is...i believe this is falling under jain remedies....i will be very happy if you can enlighten me abt the mantras and remedies in jainism... thanks sriganeshh , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > what about simple remedies like feeding ants simply ( or fill nariyal with khand and ghee - and bury underneath the peeple tree on amavasya). > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > This notion is more clearly understood by asking "What do I know?." > > > > > > sriganeshh > > Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:29:02 -0000 > > > > Re: sandhya vandanam (Gopu / Bhaskar) > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > //simultaneous grace both from Sun and Rahu at same time// > > > > i missed one more thing..kalabhairav ashtakam. it is supposed to be > > very powerful remedy to control malefic effects of rahu...just > > browse through the messages section, you can find. You can get this > > either on web or at all religious book stores... > >> > >> > >> sriganeshh > >> > >> > >> > >> , "sriganeshh" > >> <sriganeshh@> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear Gopu, > >>> > >>> My two cents on it as i find your posting very disturbing ... > >>> > >>> sandhya vandanam is to be performed only when you are initiated > >>> into...by way of upanayam... further it is just the process of > >>> purification of self before praying for gayatri and reciting > >> gayatri > >>> mantra and praying to other devatas...if you see the starting > >> point, > >>> you will understand it requires sankalpa and it ends with > >>> abivadaye...every family follows some tradition like rig veda, > >> yajur > >>> and sama...if that tradition has not taught you to perform > > sandhya > >>> vandanam, then you cannot go against it...it will involve only > > bad > >>> karma..this is my views > >>> > >>> Bhaskar > >>> it is my suggestion that for your rahu maha dasa, go to the > > nearest > >>> temple, make request with the temple authorities to allow you to > >>> pour oil or ghee in the lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum...or > >>> alternatively you can offer the oil or ghee to the priest and > > see > >> he > >>> pours the same inthe lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum... > >>> > >>> second worship sri ramanuja who is nothing but avatar of > > adiseshan, > >>> and if possible visit his native place, sriperumpudhur to have > >>> darshan of this great saint. > >>> > >>> third you can worship durga devi on rahu kalam by lighting lemon > >>> lamps in the temple... > >>> > >>> these are all very simple remedies with no harm or bad karma... > >>> this remedy will be effective for you controlling both sun and > >>> rahu...this is what i got from A M Rajagopalan, 82 years old > > divine > >>> jyotish > >>> > >>> > >>> , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> > > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> dear Sri Bhaskar, > >>>> Sandhya vandanam audio cassettes are available and u > >>>> do have "how to perform sandhya vandanam" book, u can > >>>> buy these two and follow the same. all u need is > >>>> pancha patra udhrini ie copper/brass tumbler, plate > >>>> and spoon.this cassette chants mantras for morning, > >>>> afternoon and sunset. U can follow yajur vedam since > >>>> sama vedam has more of expressing mantras in a song > >>>> manner. > >>>> > >>>> with good wishes, > >>>> k.gopu > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > > around > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Dear Prafullji, Feeding ants is okay with me, but going on Amavasya night and doing what You said puts little fear in me (may be unnecessary). I would not be comfortable doing that. Regards, Bhaskar. , "sriganeshh" <sriganeshh wrote: > > Dear Prafulla, > > yes, it is...i believe this is falling under jain remedies....i will > be very happy if you can enlighten me abt the mantras and remedies > in jainism... > > > thanks > sriganeshh > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > what about simple remedies like feeding ants simply ( or fill > nariyal with khand and ghee - and bury underneath the peeple tree on > amavasya). > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > This notion is more clearly understood by asking "What do I know?." > > > > > > > > > > sriganeshh@ > > > Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:29:02 -0000 > > > > > > Re: sandhya vandanam (Gopu / Bhaskar) > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > //simultaneous grace both from Sun and Rahu at same time// > > > > > > i missed one more thing..kalabhairav ashtakam. it is supposed to > be > > > very powerful remedy to control malefic effects of rahu...just > > > browse through the messages section, you can find. You can get > this > > > either on web or at all religious book stores... > > >> > > >> > > >> sriganeshh > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> , "sriganeshh" > > >> <sriganeshh@> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Dear Gopu, > > >>> > > >>> My two cents on it as i find your posting very disturbing ... > > >>> > > >>> sandhya vandanam is to be performed only when you are initiated > > >>> into...by way of upanayam... further it is just the process of > > >>> purification of self before praying for gayatri and reciting > > >> gayatri > > >>> mantra and praying to other devatas...if you see the starting > > >> point, > > >>> you will understand it requires sankalpa and it ends with > > >>> abivadaye...every family follows some tradition like rig veda, > > >> yajur > > >>> and sama...if that tradition has not taught you to perform > > > sandhya > > >>> vandanam, then you cannot go against it...it will involve only > > > bad > > >>> karma..this is my views > > >>> > > >>> Bhaskar > > >>> it is my suggestion that for your rahu maha dasa, go to the > > > nearest > > >>> temple, make request with the temple authorities to allow you > to > > >>> pour oil or ghee in the lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum...or > > >>> alternatively you can offer the oil or ghee to the priest and > > > see > > >> he > > >>> pours the same inthe lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum... > > >>> > > >>> second worship sri ramanuja who is nothing but avatar of > > > adiseshan, > > >>> and if possible visit his native place, sriperumpudhur to have > > >>> darshan of this great saint. > > >>> > > >>> third you can worship durga devi on rahu kalam by lighting > lemon > > >>> lamps in the temple... > > >>> > > >>> these are all very simple remedies with no harm or bad karma... > > >>> this remedy will be effective for you controlling both sun and > > >>> rahu...this is what i got from A M Rajagopalan, 82 years old > > > divine > > >>> jyotish > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> > > > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> dear Sri Bhaskar, > > >>>> Sandhya vandanam audio cassettes are available and u > > >>>> do have "how to perform sandhya vandanam" book, u can > > >>>> buy these two and follow the same. all u need is > > >>>> pancha patra udhrini ie copper/brass tumbler, plate > > >>>> and spoon.this cassette chants mantras for morning, > > >>>> afternoon and sunset. U can follow yajur vedam since > > >>>> sama vedam has more of expressing mantras in a song > > >>>> manner. > > >>>> > > >>>> with good wishes, > > >>>> k.gopu > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > > > around > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 why in night? regards / Prafulla Gang This notion is more clearly understood by asking "What do I know?." > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:55:51 -0000 > > Re: sandhya vandanam (Gopu / Bhaskar) > > Dear Prafullji, > > Feeding ants is okay with me, but going on Amavasya night and doing > what You said puts little fear in me (may be unnecessary). I would > not be comfortable doing that. > > Regards, > Bhaskar. > > , "sriganeshh" > <sriganeshh wrote: >> >> Dear Prafulla, >> >> yes, it is...i believe this is falling under jain remedies....i > will >> be very happy if you can enlighten me abt the mantras and remedies >> in jainism... >> >> >> thanks >> sriganeshh >> >> >> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >> wrote: >>> >>> what about simple remedies like feeding ants simply ( or fill >> nariyal with khand and ghee - and bury underneath the peeple tree > on >> amavasya). >>> >>> >>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>> >>> This notion is more clearly understood by asking "What do I > know?." >>> >>> >>>> >>>> sriganeshh@ >>>> Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:29:02 -0000 >>>> >>>> Re: sandhya vandanam (Gopu / Bhaskar) >>>> >>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>> >>>> //simultaneous grace both from Sun and Rahu at same time// >>>> >>>> i missed one more thing..kalabhairav ashtakam. it is supposed > to >> be >>>> very powerful remedy to control malefic effects of rahu...just >>>> browse through the messages section, you can find. You can get >> this >>>> either on web or at all religious book stores... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> sriganeshh >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , "sriganeshh" >>>>> <sriganeshh@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Gopu, >>>>>> >>>>>> My two cents on it as i find your posting very disturbing ... >>>>>> >>>>>> sandhya vandanam is to be performed only when you are > initiated >>>>>> into...by way of upanayam... further it is just the process of >>>>>> purification of self before praying for gayatri and reciting >>>>> gayatri >>>>>> mantra and praying to other devatas...if you see the starting >>>>> point, >>>>>> you will understand it requires sankalpa and it ends with >>>>>> abivadaye...every family follows some tradition like rig veda, >>>>> yajur >>>>>> and sama...if that tradition has not taught you to perform >>>> sandhya >>>>>> vandanam, then you cannot go against it...it will involve only >>>> bad >>>>>> karma..this is my views >>>>>> >>>>>> Bhaskar >>>>>> it is my suggestion that for your rahu maha dasa, go to the >>>> nearest >>>>>> temple, make request with the temple authorities to allow you >> to >>>>>> pour oil or ghee in the lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum...or >>>>>> alternatively you can offer the oil or ghee to the priest and >>>> see >>>>> he >>>>>> pours the same inthe lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum... >>>>>> >>>>>> second worship sri ramanuja who is nothing but avatar of >>>> adiseshan, >>>>>> and if possible visit his native place, sriperumpudhur to have >>>>>> darshan of this great saint. >>>>>> >>>>>> third you can worship durga devi on rahu kalam by lighting >> lemon >>>>>> lamps in the temple... >>>>>> >>>>>> these are all very simple remedies with no harm or bad > karma... >>>>>> this remedy will be effective for you controlling both sun and >>>>>> rahu...this is what i got from A M Rajagopalan, 82 years old >>>> divine >>>>>> jyotish >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> dear Sri Bhaskar, >>>>>>> Sandhya vandanam audio cassettes are available and u >>>>>>> do have "how to perform sandhya vandanam" book, u can >>>>>>> buy these two and follow the same. all u need is >>>>>>> pancha patra udhrini ie copper/brass tumbler, plate >>>>>>> and spoon.this cassette chants mantras for morning, >>>>>>> afternoon and sunset. U can follow yajur vedam since >>>>>>> sama vedam has more of expressing mantras in a song >>>>>>> manner. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> with good wishes, >>>>>>> k.gopu >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection >>>> around >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Shri Prafullji, I dont know, I just surmised about timings at night. Fear part is beacuse though Peepal is religious and we do pheri around it and diya batti etc. but burying things at night (as I surmised- also in Lal Kitab), and having heard stories since childhood relating to ...living on Peepal jhad, just makes me shirk or overlook doing that.(This may be humorous for readers) No other reason. Regards, Bhaskar. , "bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Prafullji, > > Feeding ants is okay with me, but going on Amavasya night and doing > what You said puts little fear in me (may be unnecessary). I would > not be comfortable doing that. > > Regards, > Bhaskar. > > , "sriganeshh" > <sriganeshh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > yes, it is...i believe this is falling under jain remedies....i > will > > be very happy if you can enlighten me abt the mantras and remedies > > in jainism... > > > > > > thanks > > sriganeshh > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > what about simple remedies like feeding ants simply ( or fill > > nariyal with khand and ghee - and bury underneath the peeple tree > on > > amavasya). > > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > This notion is more clearly understood by asking "What do I > know?." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sriganeshh@ > > > > Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:29:02 -0000 > > > > > > > > Re: sandhya vandanam (Gopu / Bhaskar) > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > > > //simultaneous grace both from Sun and Rahu at same time// > > > > > > > > i missed one more thing..kalabhairav ashtakam. it is supposed > to > > be > > > > very powerful remedy to control malefic effects of rahu...just > > > > browse through the messages section, you can find. You can get > > this > > > > either on web or at all religious book stores... > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> sriganeshh > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> , "sriganeshh" > > > >> <sriganeshh@> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Dear Gopu, > > > >>> > > > >>> My two cents on it as i find your posting very disturbing ... > > > >>> > > > >>> sandhya vandanam is to be performed only when you are > initiated > > > >>> into...by way of upanayam... further it is just the process of > > > >>> purification of self before praying for gayatri and reciting > > > >> gayatri > > > >>> mantra and praying to other devatas...if you see the starting > > > >> point, > > > >>> you will understand it requires sankalpa and it ends with > > > >>> abivadaye...every family follows some tradition like rig veda, > > > >> yajur > > > >>> and sama...if that tradition has not taught you to perform > > > > sandhya > > > >>> vandanam, then you cannot go against it...it will involve only > > > > bad > > > >>> karma..this is my views > > > >>> > > > >>> Bhaskar > > > >>> it is my suggestion that for your rahu maha dasa, go to the > > > > nearest > > > >>> temple, make request with the temple authorities to allow you > > to > > > >>> pour oil or ghee in the lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum...or > > > >>> alternatively you can offer the oil or ghee to the priest and > > > > see > > > >> he > > > >>> pours the same inthe lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum... > > > >>> > > > >>> second worship sri ramanuja who is nothing but avatar of > > > > adiseshan, > > > >>> and if possible visit his native place, sriperumpudhur to have > > > >>> darshan of this great saint. > > > >>> > > > >>> third you can worship durga devi on rahu kalam by lighting > > lemon > > > >>> lamps in the temple... > > > >>> > > > >>> these are all very simple remedies with no harm or bad > karma... > > > >>> this remedy will be effective for you controlling both sun and > > > >>> rahu...this is what i got from A M Rajagopalan, 82 years old > > > > divine > > > >>> jyotish > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> > > > > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> dear Sri Bhaskar, > > > >>>> Sandhya vandanam audio cassettes are available and u > > > >>>> do have "how to perform sandhya vandanam" book, u can > > > >>>> buy these two and follow the same. all u need is > > > >>>> pancha patra udhrini ie copper/brass tumbler, plate > > > >>>> and spoon.this cassette chants mantras for morning, > > > >>>> afternoon and sunset. U can follow yajur vedam since > > > >>>> sama vedam has more of expressing mantras in a song > > > >>>> manner. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> with good wishes, > > > >>>> k.gopu > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection > > > > around > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji I did not say in night. Do it in the morning for convenience. If one buries, the ants will eat. and if you keep is open, then walking peple there will cause harm to ants. Amavasya is only for rahu's influence. I seen many people going it as routine, like feeding dogs / cows etc (without any reference to lal kitab - I am not aware of rahu remedy per lal kitab). Per jainism, bheruji (jain bheru devata is different) represents rahu and recitation of last stanza of navakar mantra is best remedy for rahu/ketu. regards / Prafulla Gang This notion is more clearly understood by asking "What do I know?." > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:37:14 -0000 > > Re: sandhya vandanam (Gopu / Bhaskar) > > Shri Prafullji, > > I dont know, I just surmised about timings at night. > Fear part is beacuse though Peepal is religious and we do pheri > around it and diya batti etc. but burying things at night (as I > surmised- also in Lal Kitab), and having heard stories since > childhood relating to ...living on Peepal jhad, just makes > me shirk or overlook doing that.(This may be humorous for readers) > > No other reason. > Regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: >> >> Dear Prafullji, >> >> Feeding ants is okay with me, but going on Amavasya night and doing >> what You said puts little fear in me (may be unnecessary). I would >> not be comfortable doing that. >> >> Regards, >> Bhaskar. >> >> , "sriganeshh" >> <sriganeshh@> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Prafulla, >>> >>> yes, it is...i believe this is falling under jain remedies....i >> will >>> be very happy if you can enlighten me abt the mantras and > remedies >>> in jainism... >>> >>> >>> thanks >>> sriganeshh >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> what about simple remedies like feeding ants simply ( or fill >>> nariyal with khand and ghee - and bury underneath the peeple tree >> on >>> amavasya). >>>> >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> This notion is more clearly understood by asking "What do I >> know?." >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> sriganeshh@ >>>>> Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:29:02 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: sandhya vandanam (Gopu / Bhaskar) >>>>> >>>>> Dear Bhaskar, >>>>> >>>>> //simultaneous grace both from Sun and Rahu at same time// >>>>> >>>>> i missed one more thing..kalabhairav ashtakam. it is supposed >> to >>> be >>>>> very powerful remedy to control malefic effects of rahu...just >>>>> browse through the messages section, you can find. You can > get >>> this >>>>> either on web or at all religious book stores... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> sriganeshh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> , "sriganeshh" >>>>>> <sriganeshh@> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Gopu, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My two cents on it as i find your posting very > disturbing ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sandhya vandanam is to be performed only when you are >> initiated >>>>>>> into...by way of upanayam... further it is just the process > of >>>>>>> purification of self before praying for gayatri and reciting >>>>>> gayatri >>>>>>> mantra and praying to other devatas...if you see the > starting >>>>>> point, >>>>>>> you will understand it requires sankalpa and it ends with >>>>>>> abivadaye...every family follows some tradition like rig > veda, >>>>>> yajur >>>>>>> and sama...if that tradition has not taught you to perform >>>>> sandhya >>>>>>> vandanam, then you cannot go against it...it will involve > only >>>>> bad >>>>>>> karma..this is my views >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bhaskar >>>>>>> it is my suggestion that for your rahu maha dasa, go to the >>>>> nearest >>>>>>> temple, make request with the temple authorities to allow > you >>> to >>>>>>> pour oil or ghee in the lamp inside the sanctum > sanctorum...or >>>>>>> alternatively you can offer the oil or ghee to the priest > and >>>>> see >>>>>> he >>>>>>> pours the same inthe lamp inside the sanctum sanctorum... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> second worship sri ramanuja who is nothing but avatar of >>>>> adiseshan, >>>>>>> and if possible visit his native place, sriperumpudhur to > have >>>>>>> darshan of this great saint. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> third you can worship durga devi on rahu kalam by lighting >>> lemon >>>>>>> lamps in the temple... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> these are all very simple remedies with no harm or bad >> karma... >>>>>>> this remedy will be effective for you controlling both sun > and >>>>>>> rahu...this is what i got from A M Rajagopalan, 82 years old >>>>> divine >>>>>>> jyotish >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> dear Sri Bhaskar, >>>>>>>> Sandhya vandanam audio cassettes are available and u >>>>>>>> do have "how to perform sandhya vandanam" book, u can >>>>>>>> buy these two and follow the same. all u need is >>>>>>>> pancha patra udhrini ie copper/brass tumbler, plate >>>>>>>> and spoon.this cassette chants mantras for morning, >>>>>>>> afternoon and sunset. U can follow yajur vedam since >>>>>>>> sama vedam has more of expressing mantras in a song >>>>>>>> manner. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> with good wishes, >>>>>>>> k.gopu >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection >>>>> around >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 dear sri ganesh, I am fully aware that only after brahma upadesam this ritual has to be performed. At the same time I am not sure that natives who arent initated will imbibe bad karma by performing sandhya vandanam. the meaning of Gayathri mandra in short is "I am ignorant, i am in dark, I pray for enlightenment thro the power & illumination of Surya". If the native irrespective of his caste if he knows his gothra then definitely he can perform this sandhya vandanam. Abhivadye is nothing but introducing urself and mentioning that ur a descendant of such and such rishi lineage(modern science is identifying it as DNA) Anyway people who are well versed in Vedas can throw more light. with good wishes, k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 dear friends sandhya vandanam is an exercise in which a series of things are done including gayatri mantra recital to make the native busy in meditation during the entire period of around one and half hours preceding sunrise in the morning after sunset in the evening, because during this time sun and stars are not visible. shivapuran suggests that if a person fails to do sandhavandanam, as a prayaschit he can recit increased count of gayatri mantra japam. of late this repenetance is construed as a relaxaion and people have started advocating gayatri mantra recital in lieu of the entire sandhya vandanam. even though this is not the principle i too support mere recital of gayatri for all those who cannot do sandhyavandanam, because something is better than nothing. gayathri mantra recital can be done by all humans of all religions and castes alike without any restriction. no negative result or bad karma or bad side affects by reciting gayatri. however, sandhya vandanam is a lengthy series of exerices which, if to be done in totality, are to be learnt at the time of upanayana samskaram. there are some shankaracharya and other swamijis who teach this freely to all people in their temples and ashrams in some cities. in those auspicious premises, even vedas and sanskrit is taught to any intersted person freely without any consideration of caste and religion. most of the vedas and other classics are tranlsated into english by westerns and all of us refer them with respect. from childhood i have been using only the C.P.Brown lexicon for sanskrit to english or english to sanskrit. hence there is no bad karma or negative result fear for anyone doing these holy rituals. decades ago, only men used to inherit the wealth but now the government amended the laws removing the gender bias and even females inherit wealth equally along with thier male counterparts. the rootcause of all confusion is because all social practices under the purview of the government have been amended but the vedas, puranas, smiritis, upanishads etc. cannot be amended as they have already given a provision to consider the prevailing desha, kala, vartamana.. with best wishes pandit arjun , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > dear sri ganesh, > I am fully aware that only after brahma upadesam this > ritual has to be performed. At the same time I am not > sure that natives who arent initated will imbibe bad > karma by performing sandhya vandanam. the meaning of > Gayathri mandra in short is "I am ignorant, i am in > dark, I pray for enlightenment thro the power & > illumination of Surya". If the native irrespective of > his caste if he knows his gothra then definitely he > can perform this sandhya vandanam. Abhivadye is > nothing but introducing urself and mentioning that ur > a descendant of such and such rishi lineage(modern > science is identifying it as DNA) Anyway people who > are well versed in Vedas can throw more light. > > with good wishes, > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Dear Gopu, Sandhya Vandanam and Gayatri Mantra japa is totally two different things...gayatri is just one part of sandhya vandanam. For those who is uninitiated, they can still do gayatri mantra as mantra japa after getting it initiated through any guru or accepting surya as their guru..but not sv...only when it is permitted as per the tradition, you can. These days even the SV underwent dilution with many of the original procedures missing..see forexample, originally brahma yagna was part of SV...now i dont find people doing this daily...I am not aware of it till my friend's research on gayatri ..he told me abt the brahma yagna being part of olden day SV I dont think abhivadaye is so simple...it starts with sathushsagara paryantham co brahmanepyo... it answers to your doubt... I got disturbed since this is open public forum accessible by all, the people may just silently buy books and cassettes and keep doing this..whereas this will not serve any purpose .. Finally all those interested in knowing abt gayatri mantras .kindly download the gayatri compilation ebook at www.ambaa.org site his other work on devi mahatmyam can be downloaded from file section of my group site www.srilalitha regards sriganeshh , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > dear sri ganesh, > I am fully aware that only after brahma upadesam this > ritual has to be performed. At the same time I am not > sure that natives who arent initated will imbibe bad > karma by performing sandhya vandanam. the meaning of > Gayathri mandra in short is "I am ignorant, i am in > dark, I pray for enlightenment thro the power & > illumination of Surya". If the native irrespective of > his caste if he knows his gothra then definitely he > can perform this sandhya vandanam. Abhivadye is > nothing but introducing urself and mentioning that ur > a descendant of such and such rishi lineage(modern > science is identifying it as DNA) Anyway people who > are well versed in Vedas can throw more light. > > with good wishes, > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Respected Arjunji, With due respect to your views, i differ with you on the following issues.. 1. Though i agree with the view that atleast something is better than nothing..but my little knowledge on this topic does not accept any excuse in failing to do SV as it is his duty cast upon oneself.. It is my firm belief that if one does not perform his duty properly how can he expect rewards.... 2. Abt Women, i have read in olden days, women are treated equally with men and no difference is made...the differences may be result of later age..off hand i cannot quote any reference to literature..but considering rishi agastya himself has to bow down to his wife lopamudra to seek the rahasya of srividya..your view needs to be modified. Lord hayagriva taught only lalitha sahasranama to agastya and not more secret lalitha trisati ...only on lopamudra's recommendation, mother lalithambica told hayagreeva to teach entire thing to rishi agastya... so therefore i am of the view that our religious scriptures does not require any modification or amendments as they withstood so many years..what is essentially required is the knowledge of sanskrit and our attitude towards the way of life... regards sriganeshh , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > sandhya vandanam is an exercise in which a series of things are done > including gayatri mantra recital to make the native busy in > meditation during the entire period of around one and half hours > preceding sunrise in the morning after sunset in the evening, > because during this time sun and stars are not visible. shivapuran > suggests that if a person fails to do sandhavandanam, as a > prayaschit he can recit increased count of gayatri mantra japam. of > late this repenetance is construed as a relaxaion and people have > started advocating gayatri mantra recital in lieu of the entire > sandhya vandanam. even though this is not the principle i too > support mere recital of gayatri for all those who cannot do > sandhyavandanam, because something is better than nothing. > > gayathri mantra recital can be done by all humans of all religions > and castes alike without any restriction. no negative result or bad > karma or bad side affects by reciting gayatri. > > however, sandhya vandanam is a lengthy series of exerices which, if > to be done in totality, are to be learnt at the time of upanayana > samskaram. there are some shankaracharya and other swamijis who > teach this freely to all people in their temples and ashrams in some > cities. in those auspicious premises, even vedas and sanskrit is > taught to any intersted person freely without any consideration of > caste and religion. most of the vedas and other classics are > tranlsated into english by westerns and all of us refer them with > respect. from childhood i have been using only the C.P.Brown > lexicon for sanskrit to english or english to sanskrit. hence there > is no bad karma or negative result fear for anyone doing these holy > rituals. > > decades ago, only men used to inherit the wealth but now the > government amended the laws removing the gender bias and even > females inherit wealth equally along with thier male counterparts. > the rootcause of all confusion is because all social practices under > the purview of the government have been amended but the vedas, > puranas, smiritis, upanishads etc. cannot be amended as they have > already given a provision to consider the prevailing desha, kala, > vartamana.. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > dear sri ganesh, > > I am fully aware that only after brahma upadesam this > > ritual has to be performed. At the same time I am not > > sure that natives who arent initated will imbibe bad > > karma by performing sandhya vandanam. the meaning of > > Gayathri mandra in short is "I am ignorant, i am in > > dark, I pray for enlightenment thro the power & > > illumination of Surya". If the native irrespective of > > his caste if he knows his gothra then definitely he > > can perform this sandhya vandanam. Abhivadye is > > nothing but introducing urself and mentioning that ur > > a descendant of such and such rishi lineage(modern > > science is identifying it as DNA) Anyway people who > > are well versed in Vedas can throw more light. > > > > with good wishes, > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Dear , Excuse for coming in, but better so to resolve the issue. SriGaneshji You are right in Your own way as to sticking to the prescribed manner of doing things. Arjunji is also right in his way of allowing things to be done with some modifications or deletions.,rather then not done. Sanskrit not being put as national or compulsory Language in schools in all regions of India, many of us have problem in reading mantras or stotras, or understanding them. Resort is then taken to reading the same alongwith translations to understand the meaning of what one is uttering. Now for a person who does not know Sanskrit, he is bound to make mistakes, for that I think some shuddhi mantra is there, at the end of path ( which, I do not know, but am just aware). Again here it would be better doing this ,rather than not doing., after asking forgiveness to God for mistakes. Also for ex.if a person does Vishnu Sahasranaam ,maybe that few names he may not be able to read properly, but majority he would utter in the right manner. Those majority uttered right would provide him the Grace required if doen with love, affcetion and faith in God. Because we dont find qualified Pundits today in every corner, who can teach us the right manner, neither all elders in all families themselves do all this, so that younger generations may follow or continue doing,lifestyles being hectic, hurriedness being foremost in completeion of any task, it becomes very difficult in todays life to strictly adhere to,or follow the regulations. Its better to take Gods name in any manner rather than not taking. Thats why 50 years back people used to name their new borns with names of God. Again as Shri Ganeshji inferred-to take the name with a japa mala on asana with closed eyes in a proper meditative manner has own results to yield. Hope kind gentlemen will please close the issue. Bhaskar. , "sriganeshh" <sriganeshh wrote: > > Respected Arjunji, > > With due respect to your views, i differ with you on the following > issues.. > > 1. Though i agree with the view that atleast something is better > than nothing..but my little knowledge on this topic does not accept > any excuse in failing to do SV as it is his duty cast upon oneself.. > It is my firm belief that if one does not perform his duty properly > how can he expect rewards.... > > 2. Abt Women, i have read in olden days, women are treated equally > with men and no difference is made...the differences may be result > of later age..off hand i cannot quote any reference to > literature..but considering rishi agastya himself has to bow down to > his wife lopamudra to seek the rahasya of srividya..your view needs > to be modified. Lord hayagriva taught only lalitha sahasranama to > agastya and not more secret lalitha trisati ...only on lopamudra's > recommendation, mother lalithambica told hayagreeva to teach entire > thing to rishi agastya... > > so therefore i am of the view that our religious scriptures does not > require any modification or amendments as they withstood so many > years..what is essentially required is the knowledge of sanskrit and > our attitude towards the way of life... > > regards > sriganeshh > > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > sandhya vandanam is an exercise in which a series of things are > done > > including gayatri mantra recital to make the native busy in > > meditation during the entire period of around one and half hours > > preceding sunrise in the morning after sunset in the evening, > > because during this time sun and stars are not visible. > shivapuran > > suggests that if a person fails to do sandhavandanam, as a > > prayaschit he can recit increased count of gayatri mantra japam. > of > > late this repenetance is construed as a relaxaion and people have > > started advocating gayatri mantra recital in lieu of the entire > > sandhya vandanam. even though this is not the principle i too > > support mere recital of gayatri for all those who cannot do > > sandhyavandanam, because something is better than nothing. > > > > gayathri mantra recital can be done by all humans of all religions > > and castes alike without any restriction. no negative result or > bad > > karma or bad side affects by reciting gayatri. > > > > however, sandhya vandanam is a lengthy series of exerices which, > if > > to be done in totality, are to be learnt at the time of upanayana > > samskaram. there are some shankaracharya and other swamijis who > > teach this freely to all people in their temples and ashrams in > some > > cities. in those auspicious premises, even vedas and sanskrit is > > taught to any intersted person freely without any consideration of > > caste and religion. most of the vedas and other classics are > > tranlsated into english by westerns and all of us refer them with > > respect. from childhood i have been using only the C.P.Brown > > lexicon for sanskrit to english or english to sanskrit. hence > there > > is no bad karma or negative result fear for anyone doing these > holy > > rituals. > > > > decades ago, only men used to inherit the wealth but now the > > government amended the laws removing the gender bias and even > > females inherit wealth equally along with thier male > counterparts. > > the rootcause of all confusion is because all social practices > under > > the purview of the government have been amended but the vedas, > > puranas, smiritis, upanishads etc. cannot be amended as they have > > already given a provision to consider the prevailing desha, kala, > > vartamana.. > > > > with best wishes > > pandit arjun > > > > > > , K Gopu <kgopu_24@> wrote: > > > > > > dear sri ganesh, > > > I am fully aware that only after brahma upadesam this > > > ritual has to be performed. At the same time I am not > > > sure that natives who arent initated will imbibe bad > > > karma by performing sandhya vandanam. the meaning of > > > Gayathri mandra in short is "I am ignorant, i am in > > > dark, I pray for enlightenment thro the power & > > > illumination of Surya". If the native irrespective of > > > his caste if he knows his gothra then definitely he > > > can perform this sandhya vandanam. Abhivadye is > > > nothing but introducing urself and mentioning that ur > > > a descendant of such and such rishi lineage(modern > > > science is identifying it as DNA) Anyway people who > > > are well versed in Vedas can throw more light. > > > > > > with good wishes, > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 ll HARE RAM ll Mr.Bhaskar, Plz buy "NITYA KARMA POOJA PRAKASH" from the book stall of Gita Press Gorakhpur.This is the best book for Sandhya Vandanam and other related subjects. God bless Shashie Shekhar Delhi bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear , Excuse for coming in, but better so to resolve the issue. SriGaneshji You are right in Your own way as to sticking to the prescribed manner of doing things. Arjunji is also right in his way of allowing things to be done with some modifications or deletions.,rather then not done. Sanskrit not being put as national or compulsory Language in schools in all regions of India, many of us have problem in reading mantras or stotras, or understanding them. Resort is then taken to reading the same alongwith translations to understand the meaning of what one is uttering. Now for a person who does not know Sanskrit, he is bound to make mistakes, for that I think some shuddhi mantra is there, at the end of path ( which, I do not know, but am just aware). Again here it would be better doing this ,rather than not doing., after asking forgiveness to God for mistakes. Also for ex.if a person does Vishnu Sahasranaam ,maybe that few names he may not be able to read properly, but majority he would utter in the right manner. Those majority uttered right would provide him the Grace required if doen with love, affcetion and faith in God. Because we dont find qualified Pundits today in every corner, who can teach us the right manner, neither all elders in all families themselves do all this, so that younger generations may follow or continue doing,lifestyles being hectic, hurriedness being foremost in completeion of any task, it becomes very difficult in todays life to strictly adhere to,or follow the regulations. Its better to take Gods name in any manner rather than not taking. Thats why 50 years back people used to name their new borns with names of God. Again as Shri Ganeshji inferred-to take the name with a japa mala on asana with closed eyes in a proper meditative manner has own results to yield. Hope kind gentlemen will please close the issue. Bhaskar. , "sriganeshh" wrote: > > Respected Arjunji, > > With due respect to your views, i differ with you on the following > issues.. > > 1. Though i agree with the view that atleast something is better > than nothing..but my little knowledge on this topic does not accept > any excuse in failing to do SV as it is his duty cast upon oneself.. > It is my firm belief that if one does not perform his duty properly > how can he expect rewards.... > > 2. Abt Women, i have read in olden days, women are treated equally > with men and no difference is made...the differences may be result > of later age..off hand i cannot quote any reference to > literature..but considering rishi agastya himself has to bow down to > his wife lopamudra to seek the rahasya of srividya..your view needs > to be modified. Lord hayagriva taught only lalitha sahasranama to > agastya and not more secret lalitha trisati ...only on lopamudra's > recommendation, mother lalithambica told hayagreeva to teach entire > thing to rishi agastya... > > so therefore i am of the view that our religious scriptures does not > require any modification or amendments as they withstood so many > years..what is essentially required is the knowledge of sanskrit and > our attitude towards the way of life... > > regards > sriganeshh > > > , "panditarjun2004" > wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > sandhya vandanam is an exercise in which a series of things are > done > > including gayatri mantra recital to make the native busy in > > meditation during the entire period of around one and half hours > > preceding sunrise in the morning after sunset in the evening, > > because during this time sun and stars are not visible. > shivapuran > > suggests that if a person fails to do sandhavandanam, as a > > prayaschit he can recit increased count of gayatri mantra japam. > of > > late this repenetance is construed as a relaxaion and people have > > started advocating gayatri mantra recital in lieu of the entire > > sandhya vandanam. even though this is not the principle i too > > support mere recital of gayatri for all those who cannot do > > sandhyavandanam, because something is better than nothing. > > > > gayathri mantra recital can be done by all humans of all religions > > and castes alike without any restriction. no negative result or > bad > > karma or bad side affects by reciting gayatri. > > > > however, sandhya vandanam is a lengthy series of exerices which, > if > > to be done in totality, are to be learnt at the time of upanayana > > samskaram. there are some shankaracharya and other swamijis who > > teach this freely to all people in their temples and ashrams in > some > > cities. in those auspicious premises, even vedas and sanskrit is > > taught to any intersted person freely without any consideration of > > caste and religion. most of the vedas and other classics are > > tranlsated into english by westerns and all of us refer them with > > respect. from childhood i have been using only the C.P.Brown > > lexicon for sanskrit to english or english to sanskrit. hence > there > > is no bad karma or negative result fear for anyone doing these > holy > > rituals. > > > > decades ago, only men used to inherit the wealth but now the > > government amended the laws removing the gender bias and even > > females inherit wealth equally along with thier male > counterparts. > > the rootcause of all confusion is because all social practices > under > > the purview of the government have been amended but the vedas, > > puranas, smiritis, upanishads etc. cannot be amended as they have > > already given a provision to consider the prevailing desha, kala, > > vartamana.. > > > > with best wishes > > pandit arjun > > > > > > , K Gopu wrote: > > > > > > dear sri ganesh, > > > I am fully aware that only after brahma upadesam this > > > ritual has to be performed. At the same time I am not > > > sure that natives who arent initated will imbibe bad > > > karma by performing sandhya vandanam. the meaning of > > > Gayathri mandra in short is "I am ignorant, i am in > > > dark, I pray for enlightenment thro the power & > > > illumination of Surya". If the native irrespective of > > > his caste if he knows his gothra then definitely he > > > can perform this sandhya vandanam. Abhivadye is > > > nothing but introducing urself and mentioning that ur > > > a descendant of such and such rishi lineage(modern > > > science is identifying it as DNA) Anyway people who > > > are well versed in Vedas can throw more light. > > > > > > with good wishes, > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Dear Shekhar Bhaiji, Ram Ram I had purchased the same book You mentioned from Gita Press itself 4 years back, magar ghar mein they have got fed up of my books and only interested in arth, so God knows where it went.I will buy again, Thank You for good advice, Bhaskar. , shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro wrote: > > ll HARE RAM ll > Mr.Bhaskar, > Plz buy "NITYA KARMA POOJA PRAKASH" from the book stall of Gita Press Gorakhpur.This is the best book for Sandhya Vandanam and other related subjects. > > God bless > Shashie Shekhar > Delhi > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear , > > Excuse for coming in, but better so to resolve the issue. > > SriGaneshji You are right in Your own way as to sticking to the > prescribed manner of doing things. > > Arjunji is also right in his way of allowing things to be done with > some modifications or deletions.,rather then not done. > > Sanskrit not being put as national or compulsory Language in schools > in all regions of India, many of us have problem in reading mantras > or stotras, or understanding them. Resort is then taken to reading > the same alongwith translations to understand the meaning of what one > is uttering. Now for a person who does not know Sanskrit, he is bound > to make mistakes, for that I think some shuddhi mantra is there, > at the end of path ( which, I do not know, but am just aware). > Again here it would be better doing this ,rather than not doing., > after asking forgiveness to God for mistakes. Also for ex.if > a person does Vishnu Sahasranaam ,maybe that few names he may not be > able to read properly, but majority he would utter in the right > manner. Those majority uttered right would provide him the Grace > required if doen with love, affcetion and faith in God. > > Because we dont find qualified Pundits today in every corner, who can > teach us the right manner, neither all elders in all families > themselves do all this, so that younger generations may follow or > continue doing,lifestyles being hectic, hurriedness being foremost > in completeion of any task, it becomes very difficult in todays life > to strictly adhere to,or follow the regulations. > > Its better to take Gods name in any manner rather than not taking. > Thats why 50 years back people used to name their new borns with > names of God. Again as Shri Ganeshji inferred-to take the name with > a japa mala on asana with closed eyes in a proper meditative manner > has own results to yield. > > Hope kind gentlemen will please close the issue. > > Bhaskar. > > > > , "sriganeshh" > wrote: > > > > Respected Arjunji, > > > > With due respect to your views, i differ with you on the following > > issues.. > > > > 1. Though i agree with the view that atleast something is better > > than nothing..but my little knowledge on this topic does not accept > > any excuse in failing to do SV as it is his duty cast upon oneself.. > > It is my firm belief that if one does not perform his duty properly > > how can he expect rewards.... > > > > 2. Abt Women, i have read in olden days, women are treated equally > > with men and no difference is made...the differences may be result > > of later age..off hand i cannot quote any reference to > > literature..but considering rishi agastya himself has to bow down > to > > his wife lopamudra to seek the rahasya of srividya..your view needs > > to be modified. Lord hayagriva taught only lalitha sahasranama to > > agastya and not more secret lalitha trisati ...only on lopamudra's > > recommendation, mother lalithambica told hayagreeva to teach entire > > thing to rishi agastya... > > > > so therefore i am of the view that our religious scriptures does > not > > require any modification or amendments as they withstood so many > > years..what is essentially required is the knowledge of sanskrit > and > > our attitude towards the way of life... > > > > regards > > sriganeshh > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > wrote: > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > sandhya vandanam is an exercise in which a series of things are > > done > > > including gayatri mantra recital to make the native busy in > > > meditation during the entire period of around one and half hours > > > preceding sunrise in the morning after sunset in the evening, > > > because during this time sun and stars are not visible. > > shivapuran > > > suggests that if a person fails to do sandhavandanam, as a > > > prayaschit he can recit increased count of gayatri mantra japam. > > of > > > late this repenetance is construed as a relaxaion and people have > > > started advocating gayatri mantra recital in lieu of the entire > > > sandhya vandanam. even though this is not the principle i too > > > support mere recital of gayatri for all those who cannot do > > > sandhyavandanam, because something is better than nothing. > > > > > > gayathri mantra recital can be done by all humans of all > religions > > > and castes alike without any restriction. no negative result or > > bad > > > karma or bad side affects by reciting gayatri. > > > > > > however, sandhya vandanam is a lengthy series of exerices which, > > if > > > to be done in totality, are to be learnt at the time of upanayana > > > samskaram. there are some shankaracharya and other swamijis who > > > teach this freely to all people in their temples and ashrams in > > some > > > cities. in those auspicious premises, even vedas and sanskrit is > > > taught to any intersted person freely without any consideration > of > > > caste and religion. most of the vedas and other classics are > > > tranlsated into english by westerns and all of us refer them with > > > respect. from childhood i have been using only the C.P.Brown > > > lexicon for sanskrit to english or english to sanskrit. hence > > there > > > is no bad karma or negative result fear for anyone doing these > > holy > > > rituals. > > > > > > decades ago, only men used to inherit the wealth but now the > > > government amended the laws removing the gender bias and even > > > females inherit wealth equally along with thier male > > counterparts. > > > the rootcause of all confusion is because all social practices > > under > > > the purview of the government have been amended but the vedas, > > > puranas, smiritis, upanishads etc. cannot be amended as they have > > > already given a provision to consider the prevailing desha, kala, > > > vartamana.. > > > > > > with best wishes > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > , K Gopu wrote: > > > > > > > > dear sri ganesh, > > > > I am fully aware that only after brahma upadesam this > > > > ritual has to be performed. At the same time I am not > > > > sure that natives who arent initated will imbibe bad > > > > karma by performing sandhya vandanam. the meaning of > > > > Gayathri mandra in short is "I am ignorant, i am in > > > > dark, I pray for enlightenment thro the power & > > > > illumination of Surya". If the native irrespective of > > > > his caste if he knows his gothra then definitely he > > > > can perform this sandhya vandanam. Abhivadye is > > > > nothing but introducing urself and mentioning that ur > > > > a descendant of such and such rishi lineage(modern > > > > science is identifying it as DNA) Anyway people who > > > > are well versed in Vedas can throw more light. > > > > > > > > with good wishes, > > > > k.gopu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 dar sri ganesh, I thank u for throwing more light on the above subject.I am sure ur explanation would be quite educative and useful for readers. with good wishes, k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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