Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 PERSONAL NOTES- MANY A TIME NATIVE DOES NOT FIND REMEDIES WORKING IN LIFE. DOES IT MEAN THAT THE REMDIES PRESCRIBED ARE WRONG OR THEY DO NOT HAVE POWER ? At least it may be former but not the latter I feel. if I have cold and someone has given me medicine for headache or fever, the cold would still remain. Not wrong on part of medicine. One Story I remember-But not the name of characters- One daridra-poor person prayed for many years to Devi for material gains. But was not obliged. finally he got variagya from these desires and decied to stop praying for such type of favour. That time the Devi appeared and asked for boon. The man lamented, Devi all these years when I had wanted money You never appeared, but now when I dont have desire for this , You appear, whats the meaning. She replied asking him to look back and he found maountains of sand dunes falling at distance. She said that these are Your sins, until they have been destroyed in fire of repentance and prayer, I cannot oblige. Since,today they have been washed thatswhy I have appeared. That may be the cause for remedies not working at times. The Mahadasha Lord should favour the native at times to make the remedy work. When prakop(power) of Shani is working on a native, Shani at that time has to dispense with the powers he has been allotted, that is to punish for sins committed, that time remedies may not work completely, but only reduce the impact. That means wonders may not be seen in life even after he does remedies. Another story- At prize giving function, a boy reached at the end time of function, but as he was also one of the prize winners, he got his envelope of prize money from the chief guest.,though at the end. Thats why in my case when I fasted on Sunday on the first day itself I must have got the results, Sun was ready to give before hand, it was me who requested for his favour late. But if I had reached before the function or at start even my presence there may not have been neccesary to make the Chief guest give me my prize, I would have to wait for my name to be announced in time to come. This story can be related also with people who start fasting but dont get results early. Mantras- Many of us do not know the proper numbers to be chanted, exactly what the mantra means, neither the beej akshar of the dieties we want favour from, number of days to complete purascharan, neither any homa do we do after completeing this, at times many take alcohol and other vices continue on the days when this chanting is going on, have family life too,theres no faith that this mantra will give results, no faith in deities whom we are worshipping, other qualities or should say bad qualities like angerness, wife beating(may be verbal), dishonesty in business etc.continues, without being controlled ,plus so many innumerable reasons, then how can the mantras give results to us ? So many norms are to be mantained like sitting on asana, at same time daily, not indulging in dus namapradh (Ten sins while taking name of God) etc.etc. then how will mantras work ? But the bottom line yet remains whether formalities are complied or not, that we should be proper patra worthful)for getting favours , and our labours in getting favours should be enveloped in and out with shraddha, prem and vishwas, coupled with a moral ethical life. The above is my personal views., as a novice and not any expert comments,so please treat likewise.,with care, and no assault. Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji Wonderful note. I asked the different question on earlier thread - if the remedies are required (as the curse might have been over). You have raised another interesting and critical question - Will the remedial measure work for the native (under different dasha / transit etc). There must be some technique involved in understanding this (ofcourse prior to suggesting remedial measure). regards / Prafulla Gang This notion is more clearly understood by asking "What do I know?." > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:30:40 -0000 > > REMEDIES NOT WORKING ? > > PERSONAL NOTES- > > MANY A TIME NATIVE DOES NOT FIND REMEDIES WORKING IN LIFE. DOES IT MEAN > THAT THE REMDIES PRESCRIBED ARE WRONG OR THEY DO NOT HAVE POWER ? At > least it may be former but not the latter I feel. if I have cold and > someone has given me medicine for headache or fever, the cold would > still remain. Not wrong on part of medicine. > > One Story I remember-But not the name of characters- > One daridra-poor person prayed for many years to Devi for material > gains. But was not obliged. finally he got variagya from these desires > and decied to stop praying for such type of favour. That time the Devi > appeared and asked for boon. The man lamented, Devi all these years > when I had wanted money You never appeared, but now when I dont have > desire for this , You appear, whats the meaning. She replied asking him > to look back and he found maountains of sand dunes falling at distance. > She said that these are Your sins, until they have been destroyed in > fire of repentance and prayer, I cannot oblige. Since,today they have > been washed thatswhy I have appeared. > That may be the cause for remedies not working at times. > > The Mahadasha Lord should favour the native at times to make the > remedy work. When prakop(power) of Shani is working on a native, Shani > at that time has to dispense with the powers he has been allotted, > that is to punish for sins committed, that time remedies may not work > completely, but only reduce the impact. That means wonders may not be > seen in life even after he does remedies. > > Another story- At prize giving function, a boy reached at the end time > of function, but as he was also one of the prize winners, he got > his envelope of prize money from the chief guest.,though at the end. > Thats why in my case when I fasted on Sunday on the first day itself I > must have got the results, Sun was ready to give before hand, it was me > who requested for his favour late. But if I had reached before the > function or at start even my presence there may not have been neccesary > to make the Chief guest give me my prize, I would have to wait for my > name to be announced in time to come. This story can be related also > with people who start fasting but dont get results early. > > Mantras- Many of us do not know the proper numbers to be chanted, > exactly what the mantra means, neither the beej akshar of the dieties > we want favour from, number of days to complete purascharan, neither > any homa do we do after completeing this, at times many take alcohol > and other vices continue on the days when this chanting is going on, > have family life too,theres no faith that this mantra will give > results, no faith in deities whom we are worshipping, other qualities > or should say bad qualities like angerness, wife beating(may be > verbal), dishonesty in business etc.continues, without being > controlled ,plus so many innumerable reasons, then how can the mantras > give results to us ? So many norms are to be mantained like sitting on > asana, at same time daily, not indulging in dus namapradh (Ten sins > while taking name of God) etc.etc. then how will mantras work ? > > But the bottom line yet remains whether formalities are complied or not, > that we should be proper patra worthful)for getting favours , and our > labours in getting favours should be enveloped in and out with > shraddha, prem and vishwas, coupled with a moral ethical life. > > The above is my personal views., as a novice and not any expert > comments,so please treat likewise.,with care, and no assault. > > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Dear Prafullji. Thank You for encouraging. I have some view which may differ from others on certain issues.For eg.if in a certain natives case The Sun is afflicted, and his Sun Dasha is already over, father has expired long back,and suppose native is in service, then probably I would suggest him minimal mantras on Sun, or minimal remedies for Sun and rather concentrate on other planets which would be now playing a role in his life.Those minimal mantras would only be suggested to mantain balance of Sun,ie.create poise with his superiors or other significations of the Sun in his horoscope. Also use this post to add what You have already said. Many times we start remedies with selfish motives., but even after the end has been achieved, we may continue the same because of a good habit we have inculcated, or we love doing this, or enjoy serving. Now and here the motive ceases to be selfish. Prafullji before You gave explanation for this in subsequent post,Your first post itself I had understood what You had meant to say. Also selfish motive is nothing wrong. We are breathing in also for selfish motive.That is to live.We are writing all this also because we enjoy. But again the breathing part in itself may not be selfish ie. for a person who has not enjoyed the material joys of life, for him breathing may be a selfish motive, he wants to live, or for a person who has not completed his duties, for him breathing may be necessity, for a person with terminal illness, breathing would be a burden. But all in all being selfish is not at all bad when its for goodness, for removing a bad trait, or enhancing the power of a good one. Regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Wonderful note. I asked the different question on earlier thread - if the remedies are required (as the curse might have been over). You have raised another interesting and critical question - Will the remedial measure work for the native (under different dasha / transit etc). There must be some technique involved in understanding this (ofcourse prior to suggesting remedial measure). > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > This notion is more clearly understood by asking "What do I know?." > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:30:40 -0000 > > > > REMEDIES NOT WORKING ? > > > > PERSONAL NOTES- > > > > MANY A TIME NATIVE DOES NOT FIND REMEDIES WORKING IN LIFE. DOES IT MEAN > > THAT THE REMDIES PRESCRIBED ARE WRONG OR THEY DO NOT HAVE POWER ? At > > least it may be former but not the latter I feel. if I have cold and > > someone has given me medicine for headache or fever, the cold would > > still remain. Not wrong on part of medicine. > > > > One Story I remember-But not the name of characters- > > One daridra-poor person prayed for many years to Devi for material > > gains. But was not obliged. finally he got variagya from these desires > > and decied to stop praying for such type of favour. That time the Devi > > appeared and asked for boon. The man lamented, Devi all these years > > when I had wanted money You never appeared, but now when I dont have > > desire for this , You appear, whats the meaning. She replied asking him > > to look back and he found maountains of sand dunes falling at distance. > > She said that these are Your sins, until they have been destroyed in > > fire of repentance and prayer, I cannot oblige. Since,today they have > > been washed thatswhy I have appeared. > > That may be the cause for remedies not working at times. > > > > The Mahadasha Lord should favour the native at times to make the > > remedy work. When prakop(power) of Shani is working on a native, Shani > > at that time has to dispense with the powers he has been allotted, > > that is to punish for sins committed, that time remedies may not work > > completely, but only reduce the impact. That means wonders may not be > > seen in life even after he does remedies. > > > > Another story- At prize giving function, a boy reached at the end time > > of function, but as he was also one of the prize winners, he got > > his envelope of prize money from the chief guest.,though at the end. > > Thats why in my case when I fasted on Sunday on the first day itself I > > must have got the results, Sun was ready to give before hand, it was me > > who requested for his favour late. But if I had reached before the > > function or at start even my presence there may not have been neccesary > > to make the Chief guest give me my prize, I would have to wait for my > > name to be announced in time to come. This story can be related also > > with people who start fasting but dont get results early. > > > > Mantras- Many of us do not know the proper numbers to be chanted, > > exactly what the mantra means, neither the beej akshar of the dieties > > we want favour from, number of days to complete purascharan, neither > > any homa do we do after completeing this, at times many take alcohol > > and other vices continue on the days when this chanting is going on, > > have family life too,theres no faith that this mantra will give > > results, no faith in deities whom we are worshipping, other qualities > > or should say bad qualities like angerness, wife beating(may be > > verbal), dishonesty in business etc.continues, without being > > controlled ,plus so many innumerable reasons, then how can the mantras > > give results to us ? So many norms are to be mantained like sitting on > > asana, at same time daily, not indulging in dus namapradh (Ten sins > > while taking name of God) etc.etc. then how will mantras work ? > > > > But the bottom line yet remains whether formalities are complied or not, > > that we should be proper patra worthful)for getting favours , and our > > labours in getting favours should be enveloped in and out with > > shraddha, prem and vishwas, coupled with a moral ethical life. > > > > The above is my personal views., as a novice and not any expert > > comments,so please treat likewise.,with care, and no assault. > > > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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