Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Prafulla, I hope you do not mind me being on your case a bit ;-) Can you share examples illustrating: [remedies started with selfish motives which will NOT harm others {anyone?} RR <<Last time I felt -- my feet were still touching the ground And the smell of first rains touching the soil was in my nose!>> Prafulla -- You will be happy to note, I hope, that your signature bug has bitten me too! ;-) , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Shri Sharma ji > > Wonderful quote. Yes, at some stage even if we have started remedies with selfish motives (ofcourse not to harm others), and once it becomes a routine, then the with the time, selfish motive is no longer the force. Perhaps, at that stage, remedy will start cleaning the curse. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > After every "victory" you have more enemies. > > > > > > polite_astro > > Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:00:31 -0700 (PDT) > > , > > Re: Remedies -Karma for Prafulla > > > > ll HARE RAM ll > > Dear Mr.Prafulla, > > I am totally agree with you that remedial measures,as give something to > > cows,birds,dogs,ants and to needy or to do other rituals, must be in our > > daily habits.It is also sure that the curses can never be removed > > entirely and it will not be called our selfishness surely if we are > > habitual to do the same.On the other hand SAKAM pooja is also useful > > according to our shastras.Plz keep in mind the meaning of said chaupaie > > of Ramcharitmanas > > As:- > > "SWARATH KAJ KARE SAB PREETI,SUR NAR MUNI SABKI YAH REETI". > > But we must be aware always that our selfishness could not be harmful > > to others.Our selfishness must be for good karma and by good karma. > > > > God bless > > Shashie Shekhar > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Shri Sharma ji > > > > Wonderful example sir. Yes, I agree with your analogy. But the fact > > remains that - he fell into the well (so trouble to his life), got saved > > (for sun taking role ahead of saturn). Certainly blessing operated at the > > same time, with thousands joined in prayers to provide added blessing. > > > > I think, you explained very well the role of prayers as remedial measure. > > I am not qestioning the remedial measures in the thread. On the contrary > > sir, My concern is around the fact that, many a times, remedial measures > > are performed by native unknowlingly (as part of his habbits or daily > > rituals)..then still the curse remains? > > > > I remember in december 1999, we (the entire family except father - > > mother, youngr brother, wife, son, daughter - ) had head on collision > > with the truck on highway; getting medical aid after few hours, got > > assisted by a roadways bus against all odds..and finally, no one was bed > > ridden, we all could recover in few weeks, ....so karma has special role > > - firstly accident and then being saved. I still do not drive on highways > > since then..and drive very slowly even in city drive (earlier, i used to > > drive almost 140+ on highways)..so life gives unusual lessons. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star in > > it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > > > > > >> > >> polite_astro > >> Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:39:49 -0700 (PDT) > >> , > >> Re: Remedies - Prince -Karma for Prafulla > >> > >> ll HARE RAM ll > >> Dear Mr.Prafulla, > >> Patience of child,complete dedication & devotion of army personals, > >> hearty prayers of countryman and above all the grace of kind God gave a > >> new life to Prince.If we try to think further when he fell down into the > >> hole that was the result of some bad karmas of his past life according > >> to Hindu mythology but at the very moment his good karmas also became > >> arise.There might be any stone or brick into the hole that could give > >> injury > >> to him.There might be any reptile that could hurt him.Ok,we can say > >> army > >> personals performed their duty simply but he in the end provided a > >> unique > >> opportunity/chance to thousands of countryman for doing a good karma > >> as to pray for his life.What will you say it? > >> > >> God bless > >> Shashie Shekhar > >> > >> > >> Prafulla Gang wrote: > >> Dear Members > >> > >> Or the suffering itself is a better remedy to curse, so that person > >> undergoes it and eventually, its soul gets mukti from the curse. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star in > >> it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >> > >> > >>> > >>> jyotish > >>> Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:31:51 -0800 > >>> > >>> Re: remedies 23/7 > >>> > >>> Dear Shri kumar ji > >>> > >>> I like your analogy that remedial measures give mentl strength to > >>> natives. Yes, sankalpa has big issues. > >>> > >>> I do not know the answers, and am great observer of various remedial > >>> measures (on the list as well off the list); and the blanket > >>> prescription > >>> often worries me. I reserve my comments on the astrologers; but long > >>> list > >>> of prescription often weakens the native (as if something is heavily > >>> wrong) and it is all the more difficult for the native, when the fear > >>> is > >>> created for the native. There are genuine concerns of astrologers too, > >>> for the chart..but it must be handled one by one (by setting the > >>> priorities). > >>> > >>> Charities, donations, self less services, using gem stone etc can still > >>> be pursued by natives across religious beliefs, but what about surya > >>> namaskar, worshipping hanuman, ganapati etc. Even the identification of > >>> ishta devata is somewhat confusing to me from religious pursuits. If > >>> the > >>> native is religious (not superficially), then he will automatically be > >>> guided and helped by the supreme power (if he is destined to be > >>> remedied). and If worshipping is such a great remedy, then why did so > >>> many great saints have to suffer from dreadly diseases (including great > >>> Ramkrishna ParamHansa and many others, which I have oberved in my > >>> life). > >>> I mean, is it necessary that the curses can be really removed? if yes, > >>> how to find, if it is removed? and if cannot be removed, then why > >>> remedies? and assuming it works, how to measure them? > >>> > >>> I am still seeking the answers. This question, I always raise with so > >>> many local astrologers, but seldom get the answers. Perhaps, I am not > >>> blessed as yet to seek the answer. > >>> > >>> In my chart, may astrologers often point out the baadha from rahu in > >>> 9th > >>> aspecting mars. It is sort of curse (per prasna marg) and remedy is to > >>> pray sarpa devata. I am borne on maha shiv ratri and when I was small > >>> (my > >>> parents say that very often, they used to find snakes in my bed -while > >>> sleeping in open). Though quite scaring, but they never harmed. As I > >>> have > >>> grown, have many instances when lord Parsawanath (in Jainism, he is > >>> like > >>> Vishnu with bheru and mata Padmawati are his principal devi / devata - > >>> and do govern the serpent powers) and bheru pooja, have often resulted > >>> in > >>> sudden blessing from fatalistic events. I ask may people, if the curse > >>> in > >>> chart still existing, and if yes, then why these favourable > >>> experiences. > >>> But astrologers are willing to listen..they have read about the curses > >>> and standard remedies...and are often dogmatic about it...it is often > >>> confusing the mind. then I started observing many natives, their > >>> religious pursuits, daily routines etc..and found that many of standard > >>> remedies need not be performed, as native is doing them unknowingly > >>> from > >>> his childhood. So the bigger question arises, is it possible to see, if > >>> the remedies genuinely required to be prescribed? or perhaps, it is > >>> karma > >>> which person got to undergo (experience / suffer etc) and that is it? > >>> > >>> I am sorry for repetitive contents in past mails, but I am unable to > >>> put > >>> the precise words to them... > >>> > >>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>> > >>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star in > >>> it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> gbp_kumar > >>>> Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:40:13 -0700 (PDT) > >>>> > >>>> Re: remedies 23/7 > >>>> > >>>> Dear PRafulla, > >>>> there are a few areas in ur post so let me see what i can cover > >>>> leaving > >>>> rest to others/ > >>>> > >>>> Th remedies are vedic astrology's when u visit a vedic astrologer > >>>> [Hindu] there are many Christians in US, India too in this line and > >>>> when > >>>> they do suggest it is assuming u are likely to follow it, or rather if > >>>> u > >>>> do u will be able to overcome the reason for which it was suggested. > >>>> > >>>> NO REMEDY WORKS in blanket terms. > >>>> any dharmic religious/spiritual/remedial] if not done with a SANKALPA > >>>> that this is being done for this purpose can give u result, it can > >>>> earn > >>>> u good KARMA by feeding cows, birds or any animals or poor people too. > >>>> BUT if it as a remedy then the sanlalpa must be invoked and done to > >>>> get its benefit. > >>>> > >>>> MORE OFTEN the benefit are in line with our Karma sheet if we need to > >>>> spend some money material to get it is in our karma it will be done it > >>>> is to be an act of waste so it has to bee. > >>>> > >>>> from what I know of such remedies it can give u a stronger mental > >>>> framework to handle ur issues an open mind THAT A CLOSE DONE WITH > >>>> FEARS > >>>> THUS u tend to get tot eh solution for which u seek the remedy. > >>>> > >>>> AGAIN result is proportion to faith, concentration, than a mere > >>>> ritualistic activity. > >>>> > >>>> II hope i am somewhere near the answers...? > >>>> > >>>> Prafulla Gang wrote: > >>>> Dear Members > >>>> > >>>> I am touching a very sensitive subject, so please do not misread me. > >>>> > >>>> Astrologers observe difficult combinations, curses etc in a chart and > >>>> prescribe suitable remedial measures (per his experience). Native > >>>> might > >>>> have already been performing some remedy (may be alternative one, but > >>>> towards the same purpose) knowingly or unknowlingly (for example - > >>>> Jain > >>>> navakar mantra is powerful remedy for rahu / ketu; feeding dog / cow > >>>> as > >>>> daily routine without thinking it as remedy etc). My questions are > >>>> around blanket recommendation of remedies, without knowing te native's > >>>> past events / daily routine etc. Should remedies be suggested like > >>>> this > >>>> - Specifically - > >>>> > >>>> how does an astrologer validates if, the curse / affliction related > >>>> remedy is already done and no more required? > >>>> > >>>> does such remedies be applicable only at respective planetary ages > >>>> etc? > >>>> at what stage, the remedies are considered to be fully done or say, > >>>> planetary ill effects cease to exist like. > >>>> > >>>> without good experience, is it a good practice of suggesting remedies > >>>> like suggesting panadol; especially around mantras. Prescription of > >>>> mantras are something - must be in line with native's religious > >>>> beliefs > >>>> etc. Secondly, mantras etc involve lots of rituals for effective > >>>> rituals. > >>>> > >>>> In my personal opinion, remedies and assessment of its need is highly > >>>> sensitive area and must not be dealt so casually by fellow astrologers > >>>> (in day to day life - off the list astrologers) and to a large extent, > >>>> natives are responsible for getting into unnecessary "vaham". > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star in > >>>> it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Prashantkumar G B > >>>> > >>>> -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group > >>>> but > >>>> off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. > >>>> Please fix times for this in advance -*- > >>>> 09840051861 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. > >>>> > >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Prafulla -- You illustrate, at least in my biased view of some years of observing you -- if someone is paying attention ... why Surya is called the naisargika atmakaraka! Imagine I am in a camp surrounded by thousands of refugees who are on the brink of complete destruction and deadly diseases their mothers never wished would befall on their babies! And yet they are here at the physical brink of life, hope and yet do not want to embrace death which is certain -- if not today, tomorrow or next week if they are the optimistic types! Even if they snatch at that last piece of bread, as a remedy -- even if that would mean certain death for another cell-mate, I would not call it selfish! I could be wrong! Maybe they should have shared the bread or given it entirely to another one! Sometimes remedials are sought by individuals in similar boat. When it comes to survival, and if that is what it feels it is about -- it is okay to be selfish! For suicide or suicidal martyrdom is NO OPTION and all religions must forbid that! GOD the PARENT must never be slapped in the face that way, EVER. I hope this makes sense! I accidentally watched a movie the other night. It was in italian (did not know that when I started watching it, but was surprised to see a wrinkle! How close it is to French!) May not be a good or politically correct example but it was about a happy comical individual who was an italian waiter, a romantic who wooed and married a princess. This was the forties -- he was jewish and his wife was not. His son, himself and his father were taken on the 'train'. His non-jewish wife fought with those in power and was parceled to the same 'camp'. The beautiful part was how that father preserved his tiny child through humour and hope. And his wife too who was in another barrack through opportunities that can only come through God's Grace. The end was neither tragic nor comic, just real. The dad was shot, it was the end of the WWII, the boy listened to his dad's last advice, "Come out only after there is no noise, and no one is around!". The price of the 'sport' that his dad kept reinforcing daily into his son was, "All of this is a game and we are trying to get the first prize which is a real 'army tank'. When the child came out of hiding, when everything had died down -- as he was standing alone, bewildered amongst the ruins of a concentration camp deserted by the escaping Nazis and the escaped inmates too -- a real tank comes rolling in. The boy's eyes open wide as he is rescued by the victors of that WAR. As they were rolling along, the boy spots her mommy and the background narration says in a man's voice: It is my story. This was the best gift my Dad ever gave to me. My mother! I know it is a bit melodramatic but when he said, "It is my story!" I was almost praying that it was a true story! Maybe it was! I hope it was!! What is a missed marriage, a job lost for a bit, even an isolated disease? I hope every 7 year old child deserves a DAD like that! Every single one that is ever born! We would not need remedies or mantras and divine help, ever! Just beautiful PARENTS like those! Is that a selfish wish that will ever encroach on another individual's personal rights? Surely, there must be a remedial for making sure that happens!! RR <<Last time I felt -- my feet were still touching the ground And the smell of first rains touching the soil was in my nose!>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Ranjan ji > > Yes, I observed your previous mail with signature. I liked it, in fact i enjoyed it. > > Truly speaking, remedies though we may say selfless, will always be with selfish motives (even nirvana is the biggest selfish motive..as we do for our soul..), but in another perspective, we are doing it to repay our karma through another good karma (question myself - as to what is good or bad??..each karma again binds us with another reactive karma - good/bad). But pooja, charities, help to poor / animals etc ae said to be one sided karma..where we are repaying..without adverse reactive karma). > > In my previous mail, I wanted to say that - even if I have started feeding dog for selfish motive (say as remedial measure for shani / ketu etc), but as it becomes habbit / daily routine, we start enjoying it. The habbit / pleasure of giving, invokes "daya bhav" and kindness..and with the time, I am not bothered whether, it pleases ketu or not..I continue to do, as it goes with my modified personality..and so on. I presume at that stage, I feel that, ketu maharaj is genuinely pleased, as I am surrendering to him (without asking for favour at subconscious level). > > Again, these are my assumotions / faith..really not sure, if it is so.. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > After every "victory" you have more enemies. > > > > > > jyotish_vani > > Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:26:17 -0000 > > > > Re: Remedies -Karma for Prafulla [?] > > > > Prafulla, > > > > I hope you do not mind me being on your case a bit ;-) > > Can you share examples illustrating: > > [remedies started with selfish motives which will NOT harm others > > {anyone?} > > > > RR > > <<Last time I felt -- my feet were still touching the ground > > And the smell of first rains touching the soil was in my nose!>> > > > > Prafulla -- You will be happy to note, I hope, that your signature > > bug has bitten me too! ;-) > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Shri Sharma ji > >> > >> Wonderful quote. Yes, at some stage even if we have started > > remedies with selfish motives (ofcourse not to harm others), and once > > it becomes a routine, then the with the time, selfish motive is no > > longer the force. Perhaps, at that stage, remedy will start cleaning > > the curse. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> After every "victory" you have more enemies. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> polite_astro@ > >>> Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:00:31 -0700 (PDT) > >>> , > > > >>> Re: Remedies -Karma for Prafulla > >>> > >>> ll HARE RAM ll > >>> Dear Mr.Prafulla, > >>> I am totally agree with you that remedial measures,as give > > something to > >>> cows,birds,dogs,ants and to needy or to do other rituals, must be > > in our > >>> daily habits.It is also sure that the curses can never be removed > >>> entirely and it will not be called our selfishness surely if we > > are > >>> habitual to do the same.On the other hand SAKAM pooja is also > > useful > >>> according to our shastras.Plz keep in mind the meaning of said > > chaupaie > >>> of Ramcharitmanas > >>> As:- > >>> "SWARATH KAJ KARE SAB PREETI,SUR NAR MUNI SABKI YAH REETI". > >>> But we must be aware always that our selfishness could not be > > harmful > >>> to others.Our selfishness must be for good karma and by good > > karma. > >>> > >>> God bless > >>> Shashie Shekhar > >>> > >>> > >>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote: > >>> Dear Shri Sharma ji > >>> > >>> Wonderful example sir. Yes, I agree with your analogy. But the > > fact > >>> remains that - he fell into the well (so trouble to his life), > > got saved > >>> (for sun taking role ahead of saturn). Certainly blessing > > operated at the > >>> same time, with thousands joined in prayers to provide added > > blessing. > >>> > >>> I think, you explained very well the role of prayers as remedial > > measure. > >>> I am not qestioning the remedial measures in the thread. On the > > contrary > >>> sir, My concern is around the fact that, many a times, remedial > > measures > >>> are performed by native unknowlingly (as part of his habbits or > > daily > >>> rituals)..then still the curse remains? > >>> > >>> I remember in december 1999, we (the entire family except father - > >>> mother, youngr brother, wife, son, daughter - ) had head on > > collision > >>> with the truck on highway; getting medical aid after few hours, > > got > >>> assisted by a roadways bus against all odds..and finally, no one > > was bed > >>> ridden, we all could recover in few weeks, ....so karma has > > special role > >>> - firstly accident and then being saved. I still do not drive on > > highways > >>> since then..and drive very slowly even in city drive (earlier, i > > used to > >>> drive almost 140+ on highways)..so life gives unusual lessons. > >>> > >>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>> > >>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we > > star in > >>> it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> polite_astro@ > >>>> Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:39:49 -0700 (PDT) > >>>> , > > > >>>> Re: Remedies - Prince -Karma for Prafulla > >>>> > >>>> ll HARE RAM ll > >>>> Dear Mr.Prafulla, > >>>> Patience of child,complete dedication & devotion of army > > personals, > >>>> hearty prayers of countryman and above all the grace of kind God > > gave a > >>>> new life to Prince.If we try to think further when he fell down > > into the > >>>> hole that was the result of some bad karmas of his past life > > according > >>>> to Hindu mythology but at the very moment his good karmas also > > became > >>>> arise.There might be any stone or brick into the hole that could > > give > >>>> injury > >>>> to him.There might be any reptile that could hurt him.Ok,we can > > say > >>>> army > >>>> personals performed their duty simply but he in the end provided > > a > >>>> unique > >>>> opportunity/chance to thousands of countryman for doing a good > > karma > >>>> as to pray for his life.What will you say it? > >>>> > >>>> God bless > >>>> Shashie Shekhar > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Prafulla Gang wrote: > >>>> Dear Members > >>>> > >>>> Or the suffering itself is a better remedy to curse, so that > > person > >>>> undergoes it and eventually, its soul gets mukti from the curse. > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we > > star in > >>>> it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> jyotish@ > >>>>> Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:31:51 -0800 > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: remedies 23/7 > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Shri kumar ji > >>>>> > >>>>> I like your analogy that remedial measures give mentl strength > > to > >>>>> natives. Yes, sankalpa has big issues. > >>>>> > >>>>> I do not know the answers, and am great observer of various > > remedial > >>>>> measures (on the list as well off the list); and the blanket > >>>>> prescription > >>>>> often worries me. I reserve my comments on the astrologers; but > > long > >>>>> list > >>>>> of prescription often weakens the native (as if something is > > heavily > >>>>> wrong) and it is all the more difficult for the native, when > > the fear > >>>>> is > >>>>> created for the native. There are genuine concerns of > > astrologers too, > >>>>> for the chart..but it must be handled one by one (by setting the > >>>>> priorities). > >>>>> > >>>>> Charities, donations, self less services, using gem stone etc > > can still > >>>>> be pursued by natives across religious beliefs, but what about > > surya > >>>>> namaskar, worshipping hanuman, ganapati etc. Even the > > identification of > >>>>> ishta devata is somewhat confusing to me from religious > > pursuits. If > >>>>> the > >>>>> native is religious (not superficially), then he will > > automatically be > >>>>> guided and helped by the supreme power (if he is destined to be > >>>>> remedied). and If worshipping is such a great remedy, then why > > did so > >>>>> many great saints have to suffer from dreadly diseases > > (including great > >>>>> Ramkrishna ParamHansa and many others, which I have oberved in > > my > >>>>> life). > >>>>> I mean, is it necessary that the curses can be really removed? > > if yes, > >>>>> how to find, if it is removed? and if cannot be removed, then > > why > >>>>> remedies? and assuming it works, how to measure them? > >>>>> > >>>>> I am still seeking the answers. This question, I always raise > > with so > >>>>> many local astrologers, but seldom get the answers. Perhaps, I > > am not > >>>>> blessed as yet to seek the answer. > >>>>> > >>>>> In my chart, may astrologers often point out the baadha from > > rahu in > >>>>> 9th > >>>>> aspecting mars. It is sort of curse (per prasna marg) and > > remedy is to > >>>>> pray sarpa devata. I am borne on maha shiv ratri and when I was > > small > >>>>> (my > >>>>> parents say that very often, they used to find snakes in my > > bed -while > >>>>> sleeping in open). Though quite scaring, but they never harmed. > > As I > >>>>> have > >>>>> grown, have many instances when lord Parsawanath (in Jainism, > > he is > >>>>> like > >>>>> Vishnu with bheru and mata Padmawati are his principal devi / > > devata - > >>>>> and do govern the serpent powers) and bheru pooja, have often > > resulted > >>>>> in > >>>>> sudden blessing from fatalistic events. I ask may people, if > > the curse > >>>>> in > >>>>> chart still existing, and if yes, then why these favourable > >>>>> experiences. > >>>>> But astrologers are willing to listen..they have read about the > > curses > >>>>> and standard remedies...and are often dogmatic about it...it is > > often > >>>>> confusing the mind. then I started observing many natives, their > >>>>> religious pursuits, daily routines etc..and found that many of > > standard > >>>>> remedies need not be performed, as native is doing them > > unknowingly > >>>>> from > >>>>> his childhood. So the bigger question arises, is it possible to > > see, if > >>>>> the remedies genuinely required to be prescribed? or perhaps, > > it is > >>>>> karma > >>>>> which person got to undergo (experience / suffer etc) and that > > is it? > >>>>> > >>>>> I am sorry for repetitive contents in past mails, but I am > > unable to > >>>>> put > >>>>> the precise words to them... > >>>>> > >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>> > >>>>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we > > star in > >>>>> it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> gbp_kumar@ > >>>>>> Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:40:13 -0700 (PDT) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Re: remedies 23/7 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear PRafulla, > >>>>>> there are a few areas in ur post so let me see what i can cover > >>>>>> leaving > >>>>>> rest to others/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Th remedies are vedic astrology's when u visit a vedic > > astrologer > >>>>>> [Hindu] there are many Christians in US, India too in this > > line and > >>>>>> when > >>>>>> they do suggest it is assuming u are likely to follow it, or > > rather if > >>>>>> u > >>>>>> do u will be able to overcome the reason for which it was > > suggested. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> NO REMEDY WORKS in blanket terms. > >>>>>> any dharmic religious/spiritual/remedial] if not done with a > > SANKALPA > >>>>>> that this is being done for this purpose can give u result, it > > can > >>>>>> earn > >>>>>> u good KARMA by feeding cows, birds or any animals or poor > > people too. > >>>>>> BUT if it as a remedy then the sanlalpa must be invoked and > > done to > >>>>>> get its benefit. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> MORE OFTEN the benefit are in line with our Karma sheet if we > > need to > >>>>>> spend some money material to get it is in our karma it will be > > done it > >>>>>> is to be an act of waste so it has to bee. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> from what I know of such remedies it can give u a stronger > > mental > >>>>>> framework to handle ur issues an open mind THAT A CLOSE DONE > > WITH > >>>>>> FEARS > >>>>>> THUS u tend to get tot eh solution for which u seek the remedy. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> AGAIN result is proportion to faith, concentration, than a mere > >>>>>> ritualistic activity. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> II hope i am somewhere near the answers...? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Prafulla Gang wrote: > >>>>>> Dear Members > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I am touching a very sensitive subject, so please do not > > misread me. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Astrologers observe difficult combinations, curses etc in a > > chart and > >>>>>> prescribe suitable remedial measures (per his experience). > > Native > >>>>>> might > >>>>>> have already been performing some remedy (may be alternative > > one, but > >>>>>> towards the same purpose) knowingly or unknowlingly (for > > example - > >>>>>> Jain > >>>>>> navakar mantra is powerful remedy for rahu / ketu; feeding > > dog / cow > >>>>>> as > >>>>>> daily routine without thinking it as remedy etc). My questions > > are > >>>>>> around blanket recommendation of remedies, without knowing te > > native's > >>>>>> past events / daily routine etc. Should remedies be suggested > > like > >>>>>> this > >>>>>> - Specifically - > >>>>>> > >>>>>> how does an astrologer validates if, the curse / affliction > > related > >>>>>> remedy is already done and no more required? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> does such remedies be applicable only at respective planetary > > ages > >>>>>> etc? > >>>>>> at what stage, the remedies are considered to be fully done or > > say, > >>>>>> planetary ill effects cease to exist like. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> without good experience, is it a good practice of suggesting > > remedies > >>>>>> like suggesting panadol; especially around mantras. > > Prescription of > >>>>>> mantras are something - must be in line with native's religious > >>>>>> beliefs > >>>>>> etc. Secondly, mantras etc involve lots of rituals for > > effective > >>>>>> rituals. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> In my personal opinion, remedies and assessment of its need is > > highly > >>>>>> sensitive area and must not be dealt so casually by fellow > > astrologers > >>>>>> (in day to day life - off the list astrologers) and to a large > > extent, > >>>>>> natives are responsible for getting into unnecessary "vaham". > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we > > star in > >>>>>> it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Prashantkumar G B > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -*- The services of this astrologer are free on > > group > >>>>>> but > >>>>>> off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or > > phone. > >>>>>> Please fix times for this in advance -*- > >>>>>> 09840051861 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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