Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 ll HARE RAM ll Dear Mr.Prafulla, I am totally agree with you that remedial measures,as give something to cows,birds,dogs,ants and to needy or to do other rituals, must be in our daily habits.It is also sure that the curses can never be removed entirely and it will not be called our selfishness surely if we are habitual to do the same.On the other hand SAKAM pooja is also useful according to our shastras.Plz keep in mind the meaning of said chaupaie of Ramcharitmanas As:- "SWARATH KAJ KARE SAB PREETI,SUR NAR MUNI SABKI YAH REETI". But we must be aware always that our selfishness could not be harmful to others.Our selfishness must be for good karma and by good karma. God bless Shashie Shekhar Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Shri Sharma ji Wonderful example sir. Yes, I agree with your analogy. But the fact remains that - he fell into the well (so trouble to his life), got saved (for sun taking role ahead of saturn). Certainly blessing operated at the same time, with thousands joined in prayers to provide added blessing. I think, you explained very well the role of prayers as remedial measure. I am not qestioning the remedial measures in the thread. On the contrary sir, My concern is around the fact that, many a times, remedial measures are performed by native unknowlingly (as part of his habbits or daily rituals)..then still the curse remains? I remember in december 1999, we (the entire family except father - mother, youngr brother, wife, son, daughter - ) had head on collision with the truck on highway; getting medical aid after few hours, got assisted by a roadways bus against all odds..and finally, no one was bed ridden, we all could recover in few weeks, ....so karma has special role - firstly accident and then being saved. I still do not drive on highways since then..and drive very slowly even in city drive (earlier, i used to drive almost 140+ on highways)..so life gives unusual lessons. regards / Prafulla Gang Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > > polite_astro > Sun, 23 Jul 2006 09:39:49 -0700 (PDT) > , > Re: Remedies - Prince -Karma for Prafulla > > ll HARE RAM ll > Dear Mr.Prafulla, > Patience of child,complete dedication & devotion of army personals, > hearty prayers of countryman and above all the grace of kind God gave a > new life to Prince.If we try to think further when he fell down into the > hole that was the result of some bad karmas of his past life according > to Hindu mythology but at the very moment his good karmas also became > arise.There might be any stone or brick into the hole that could give > injury > to him.There might be any reptile that could hurt him.Ok,we can say > army > personals performed their duty simply but he in the end provided a > unique > opportunity/chance to thousands of countryman for doing a good karma > as to pray for his life.What will you say it? > > God bless > Shashie Shekhar > > > Prafulla Gang wrote: > Dear Members > > Or the suffering itself is a better remedy to curse, so that person > undergoes it and eventually, its soul gets mukti from the curse. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star in > it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > > >> >> jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com >> Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:31:51 -0800 >> >> Re: remedies 23/7 >> >> Dear Shri kumar ji >> >> I like your analogy that remedial measures give mentl strength to >> natives. Yes, sankalpa has big issues. >> >> I do not know the answers, and am great observer of various remedial >> measures (on the list as well off the list); and the blanket >> prescription >> often worries me. I reserve my comments on the astrologers; but long >> list >> of prescription often weakens the native (as if something is heavily >> wrong) and it is all the more difficult for the native, when the fear is >> created for the native. There are genuine concerns of astrologers too, >> for the chart..but it must be handled one by one (by setting the >> priorities). >> >> Charities, donations, self less services, using gem stone etc can still >> be pursued by natives across religious beliefs, but what about surya >> namaskar, worshipping hanuman, ganapati etc. Even the identification of >> ishta devata is somewhat confusing to me from religious pursuits. If the >> native is religious (not superficially), then he will automatically be >> guided and helped by the supreme power (if he is destined to be >> remedied). and If worshipping is such a great remedy, then why did so >> many great saints have to suffer from dreadly diseases (including great >> Ramkrishna ParamHansa and many others, which I have oberved in my life). >> I mean, is it necessary that the curses can be really removed? if yes, >> how to find, if it is removed? and if cannot be removed, then why >> remedies? and assuming it works, how to measure them? >> >> I am still seeking the answers. This question, I always raise with so >> many local astrologers, but seldom get the answers. Perhaps, I am not >> blessed as yet to seek the answer. >> >> In my chart, may astrologers often point out the baadha from rahu in 9th >> aspecting mars. It is sort of curse (per prasna marg) and remedy is to >> pray sarpa devata. I am borne on maha shiv ratri and when I was small >> (my >> parents say that very often, they used to find snakes in my bed -while >> sleeping in open). Though quite scaring, but they never harmed. As I >> have >> grown, have many instances when lord Parsawanath (in Jainism, he is like >> Vishnu with bheru and mata Padmawati are his principal devi / devata - >> and do govern the serpent powers) and bheru pooja, have often resulted >> in >> sudden blessing from fatalistic events. I ask may people, if the curse >> in >> chart still existing, and if yes, then why these favourable experiences. >> But astrologers are willing to listen..they have read about the curses >> and standard remedies...and are often dogmatic about it...it is often >> confusing the mind. then I started observing many natives, their >> religious pursuits, daily routines etc..and found that many of standard >> remedies need not be performed, as native is doing them unknowingly from >> his childhood. So the bigger question arises, is it possible to see, if >> the remedies genuinely required to be prescribed? or perhaps, it is >> karma >> which person got to undergo (experience / suffer etc) and that is it? >> >> I am sorry for repetitive contents in past mails, but I am unable to put >> the precise words to them... >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star in >> it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! >> >> >>> >>> gbp_kumar >>> Sun, 23 Jul 2006 00:40:13 -0700 (PDT) >>> >>> Re: remedies 23/7 >>> >>> Dear PRafulla, >>> there are a few areas in ur post so let me see what i can cover >>> leaving >>> rest to others/ >>> >>> Th remedies are vedic astrology's when u visit a vedic astrologer >>> [Hindu] there are many Christians in US, India too in this line and >>> when >>> they do suggest it is assuming u are likely to follow it, or rather if >>> u >>> do u will be able to overcome the reason for which it was suggested. >>> >>> NO REMEDY WORKS in blanket terms. >>> any dharmic religious/spiritual/remedial] if not done with a SANKALPA >>> that this is being done for this purpose can give u result, it can earn >>> u good KARMA by feeding cows, birds or any animals or poor people too. >>> BUT if it as a remedy then the sanlalpa must be invoked and done to >>> get its benefit. >>> >>> MORE OFTEN the benefit are in line with our Karma sheet if we need to >>> spend some money material to get it is in our karma it will be done it >>> is to be an act of waste so it has to bee. >>> >>> from what I know of such remedies it can give u a stronger mental >>> framework to handle ur issues an open mind THAT A CLOSE DONE WITH FEARS >>> THUS u tend to get tot eh solution for which u seek the remedy. >>> >>> AGAIN result is proportion to faith, concentration, than a mere >>> ritualistic activity. >>> >>> II hope i am somewhere near the answers...? >>> >>> Prafulla Gang wrote: >>> Dear Members >>> >>> I am touching a very sensitive subject, so please do not misread me. >>> >>> Astrologers observe difficult combinations, curses etc in a chart and >>> prescribe suitable remedial measures (per his experience). Native might >>> have already been performing some remedy (may be alternative one, but >>> towards the same purpose) knowingly or unknowlingly (for example - Jain >>> navakar mantra is powerful remedy for rahu / ketu; feeding dog / cow as >>> daily routine without thinking it as remedy etc). My questions are >>> around blanket recommendation of remedies, without knowing te native's >>> past events / daily routine etc. Should remedies be suggested like this >>> - Specifically - >>> >>> how does an astrologer validates if, the curse / affliction related >>> remedy is already done and no more required? >>> >>> does such remedies be applicable only at respective planetary ages >>> etc? >>> at what stage, the remedies are considered to be fully done or say, >>> planetary ill effects cease to exist like. >>> >>> without good experience, is it a good practice of suggesting remedies >>> like suggesting panadol; especially around mantras. Prescription of >>> mantras are something - must be in line with native's religious beliefs >>> etc. Secondly, mantras etc involve lots of rituals for effective >>> rituals. >>> >>> In my personal opinion, remedies and assessment of its need is highly >>> sensitive area and must not be dealt so casually by fellow astrologers >>> (in day to day life - off the list astrologers) and to a large extent, >>> natives are responsible for getting into unnecessary "vaham". >>> >>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>> >>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star in >>> it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Prashantkumar G B >>> >>> -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group >>> but >>> off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. >>> Please fix times for this in advance -*- >>> 09840051861 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Get on board. 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