chandrashekar about the 9th bhava and 10th bhava

[Guest guest]

it would make good sense that the tenth bhava would be the house of the

father as it is 7th from the 4th and that would be more logical. I think

that the 9th bhava specifically deals with religion and preceptors and

gurus. I don't think the 9th bhava should be considered for the father. that

is my humble opinion and also from rational logical deduction. there are

many who are using the 9th house but from my own chart I see that the 10th

bhava will be more correct regarding the nature of my father.

 

 

 

sincerely,

 

 

 

__________________________

__________________________

 

Raja Gursahani

 

15690 Orchard Way

 

Kerman, CA 93630

 

(cell) 314.761.3134

 

rajagursahani

[Guest guest]

Dear Raja,

Parashara and many other astrological authorities attribute the

indications of father to 9th bhava and not without reason. One becomes

father only after begetting a progeny and the relation is no longer that

of only husband and wife but also father and mother of the progeny. Of

course you are free to hold your own opinion.

 

Chandrashekhar.

 

Raja Gursahani wrote:

>

> it would make good sense that the tenth bhava would be the house of the

> father as it is 7th from the 4th and that would be more logical. I think

> that the 9th bhava specifically deals with religion and preceptors and

> gurus. I don't think the 9th bhava should be considered for the

> father. that

> is my humble opinion and also from rational logical deduction. there are

> many who are using the 9th house but from my own chart I see that the 10th

> bhava will be more correct regarding the nature of my father.

>

> sincerely,

>

> ________

> __________________________

>

> Raja Gursahani

>

> 15690 Orchard Way

>

> Kerman, CA 93630

>

> (cell) 314.761.3134

>

> rajagursahani <rajagursahani%40gmail.com>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Raja,

 

Actually I was hoping that someone would bring up another perspective

in this discussion! Which is: both 9th and 10th describe the

different aspects of 'father' and Girish Chand Sharma ji goes into

that in his translation of BPHS :-)

 

BPHS has several other instances where somewhat contradictory

statements are given, for example the rulerships of lunar nodes. I

have an article on this -- I think at www.boloji.com/astro with the

title 'astrotreasures ...". If interested, please peruse that.

 

Also, rather than reinterpreting things any which way one can, I

would rely on established authors/translators like G.C. Sharma. He

may not be perfect but I am sure has an excellent knowledge of

sanskrit and practical experience in jyotish. Soney mein sugandh, as

they say. Please read his chapters 22 and 23 for the 9th 10th/father

issues.

 

Best wishes,

 

RR

 

 

, "Raja Gursahani"

<rajagursahani wrote:

>

> it would make good sense that the tenth bhava would be the house of

the

> father as it is 7th from the 4th and that would be more logical. I

think

> that the 9th bhava specifically deals with religion and preceptors

and

> gurus. I don't think the 9th bhava should be considered for the

father. that

> is my humble opinion and also from rational logical deduction.

there are

> many who are using the 9th house but from my own chart I see that

the 10th

> bhava will be more correct regarding the nature of my father.

>

>

>

> sincerely,

>

>

>

>

____________________

______

> __________________________

>

> Raja Gursahani

>

> 15690 Orchard Way

>

> Kerman, CA 93630

>

> (cell) 314.761.3134

>

> rajagursahani

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Father is father first and mother's spouse much later, cognitively

speaking. Father gives you the religion and in most cases is the first

teacher too.

 

May be one could look at stepfather from the 10th house.

 

Regards

Shankar

 

 

, "Raja Gursahani"

<rajagursahani wrote:

>

> it would make good sense that the tenth bhava would be the house of the

> father as it is 7th from the 4th and that would be more logical. I think

> that the 9th bhava specifically deals with religion and preceptors and

> gurus. I don't think the 9th bhava should be considered for the

father. that

> is my humble opinion and also from rational logical deduction. there are

> many who are using the 9th house but from my own chart I see that

the 10th

> bhava will be more correct regarding the nature of my father.

>

>

>

> sincerely,

>

>

>

>

__________________________

> __________________________

>

> Raja Gursahani

>

> 15690 Orchard Way

>

> Kerman, CA 93630

>

> (cell) 314.761.3134

>

> rajagursahani

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mr. Shankar,

 

Realistically speaking for religious and atheist progeny alike --

 

there are fewer immaculate conceptions these days than your statement

might indicate in most of the real world! In terms of biological

sequence of procreation as we earth-dwellers know!

 

RR

<<Last time I felt -- my feet were still touching the ground

And the smell of first rains touching the soil was in my nose!>>

 

, "shankarremote"

<shankarremote wrote:

>

> Father is father first and mother's spouse much later, cognitively

> speaking. Father gives you the religion and in most cases is the

first

> teacher too.

>

> May be one could look at stepfather from the 10th house.

>

> Regards

> Shankar

>

>

> , "Raja Gursahani"

> <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> >

> > it would make good sense that the tenth bhava would be the house

of the

> > father as it is 7th from the 4th and that would be more logical.

I think

> > that the 9th bhava specifically deals with religion and

preceptors and

> > gurus. I don't think the 9th bhava should be considered for the

> father. that

> > is my humble opinion and also from rational logical deduction.

there are

> > many who are using the 9th house but from my own chart I see that

> the 10th

> > bhava will be more correct regarding the nature of my father.

> >

> >

> >

> > sincerely,

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

____________________

______

> > __________________________

> >

> > Raja Gursahani

> >

> > 15690 Orchard Way

> >

> > Kerman, CA 93630

> >

> > (cell) 314.761.3134

> >

> > rajagursahani@

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Let me clarify:

 

Religion aka dogma, be it belief in God or lack of it, is exposed to

the child through the father.

 

To a child a father is father first, and mother's spouse later. A

child's cognitive understanding of conception comes much later. I am

not sure if a child is born with the knowledge of how it has been

conceived. However it surely has a distinctive feel of father and mother.

 

I am only referring only to the experience of a person. Astrology is

to me, a prism to view the experince and give a palliative

order...amongst many other things.

 

Shankar

 

 

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Mr. Shankar,

>

> Realistically speaking for religious and atheist progeny alike --

>

> there are fewer immaculate conceptions these days than your statement

> might indicate in most of the real world! In terms of biological

> sequence of procreation as we earth-dwellers know!

>

> RR

> <<Last time I felt -- my feet were still touching the ground

> And the smell of first rains touching the soil was in my nose!>>

>

> , "shankarremote"

> <shankarremote@> wrote:

> >

> > Father is father first and mother's spouse much later, cognitively

> > speaking. Father gives you the religion and in most cases is the

> first

> > teacher too.

> >

> > May be one could look at stepfather from the 10th house.

> >

> > Regards

> > Shankar

> >

> >

> > , "Raja Gursahani"

> > <rajagursahani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > it would make good sense that the tenth bhava would be the house

> of the

> > > father as it is 7th from the 4th and that would be more logical.

> I think

> > > that the 9th bhava specifically deals with religion and

> preceptors and

> > > gurus. I don't think the 9th bhava should be considered for the

> > father. that

> > > is my humble opinion and also from rational logical deduction.

> there are

> > > many who are using the 9th house but from my own chart I see that

> > the 10th

> > > bhava will be more correct regarding the nature of my father.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sincerely,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> ____________________

> ______

> > > __________________________

> > >

> > > Raja Gursahani

> > >

> > > 15690 Orchard Way

> > >

> > > Kerman, CA 93630

> > >

> > > (cell) 314.761.3134

> > >

> > > rajagursahani@

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

In a chart 5th House is purva-punya balam. Progeny is

also seen from 5th house because how the children

would be depends on our purva-punyas. Now if we go to

house of father( 9th H) from 5th house we come to

Lagna which is self. And 9th from Lagna is father.

Father's father can be arrived at by going 9Houses

from 9th house and so on. Now from which house do we

see pitri doshas - i dont think from 10th or 10th from

10th.

 

9th house is also religion and guru. But as said by

somebody else Father is our first guru. The religion

which we adopt first is the religion of our father.

 

4th H is mother and 7th from 4th (10th H) is mother's

husband.So it talks more of relation between mother

and father.

 

Sincerely

Gaurav

 

--- Raja Gursahani <rajagursahani > wrote:

 

> it would make good sense that the tenth bhava would

> be the house of the

> father as it is 7th from the 4th and that would be

> more logical. I think

> that the 9th bhava specifically deals with religion

> and preceptors and

> gurus. I don't think the 9th bhava should be

> considered for the father. that

> is my humble opinion and also from rational logical

> deduction. there are

> many who are using the 9th house but from my own

> chart I see that the 10th

> bhava will be more correct regarding the nature of

> my father.

>

>

>

> sincerely,

>

>

>

>

__________________________

> __________________________

>

> Raja Gursahani

>

> 15690 Orchard Way

>

> Kerman, CA 93630

>

> (cell) 314.761.3134

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> rajagursahani

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