Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Dear RRji, excuse me for entereing in this thread... is it not 12th guru is interpreted as the one to complete the unfinished agenda of last birth and as long as the native realises this and keeps going in the path shown by Jupiter, his life will always be good...this is what my understanding...but kindly clear my doubts second you said //was it the nullification of GCY due to above reasons?// does it mean to say GCY is bad....or obstacle...i doubt as this bestows different thinking patterns and bringing into play more cosmic power in the persons life...they seems to have some kind of strong support systems due to their previous karmas...right now i am not able to say anything more on this...but you have my chart. there is some interesting discussion on the vedic astrology forum regarding this GCY...i am sure you would have gone through it... regards sriganeshh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Every single one of us is here in this worldly reality to finish some of the karmic agenda from past. Most of us do not have guru in the 12th! RR , "sriganeshh" <sriganeshh wrote: > > Dear RRji, > > excuse me for entereing in this thread... > > is it not 12th guru is interpreted as the one to complete the > unfinished agenda of last birth and as long as the native realises > this and keeps going in the path shown by Jupiter, his life will > always be good...this is what my understanding...but kindly clear my > doubts > > second you said //was it the nullification of GCY due to above > reasons?// does it mean to say GCY is bad....or obstacle...i doubt > as this bestows different thinking patterns and bringing into play > more cosmic power in the persons life...they seems to have some kind > of strong support systems due to their previous karmas...right now i > am not able to say anything more on this...but you have my chart. > > there is some interesting discussion on the vedic astrology forum > regarding this GCY...i am sure you would have gone through it... > > regards > sriganeshh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 ok..let me modify my statement...earlier i have not conveyed what i intended.. 12th guru is supposed to bestow moksha and no further birth..the position is believed to indicate that inspite of his good karma in the last birth the soul has committed some sins for which it has been made to take birth...whereas it is not the case with others is it so...? sriganeshh , "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Every single one of us is here in this worldly reality to finish some > of the karmic agenda from past. Most of us do not have guru in the 12th! > > RR > > , "sriganeshh" <sriganeshh@> > wrote: > > > > Dear RRji, > > > > excuse me for entereing in this thread... > > > > is it not 12th guru is interpreted as the one to complete the > > unfinished agenda of last birth and as long as the native realises > > this and keeps going in the path shown by Jupiter, his life will > > always be good...this is what my understanding...but kindly clear my > > doubts > > > > second you said //was it the nullification of GCY due to above > > reasons?// does it mean to say GCY is bad....or obstacle...i doubt > > as this bestows different thinking patterns and bringing into play > > more cosmic power in the persons life...they seems to have some kind > > of strong support systems due to their previous karmas...right now i > > am not able to say anything more on this...but you have my chart. > > > > there is some interesting discussion on the vedic astrology forum > > regarding this GCY...i am sure you would have gone through it... > > > > regards > > sriganeshh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Sri, Okay now I see what you meant. I have heard the same said about ketu in 12th too. I am sure there are many combinations given in classics and in books and articles about combinations for moksha. Here is my two cents on that as an observer (not researcher): All or most of the mahapurushas and mahayogis in recent times or last few hundred years should have these yogas. Just by common sense, their likelihood of having attained moksha should be higher! Sri Chaitanya, Paramahansa, Yogananda, Sai baba (Shirdi), Vivekananda, Yukteshwara, Lahiri Mahashay, etc etc and the same is true for some of the western saints I am sure and other religions too. This is something that a practical astrologer intersted in the topic of moksha yogas can study. And put the classics to test, in a healthy way. I recall an article written by Sri K.N. Rao, may the Lord keep his wit forever sharp (!), in which he asks some serious questions in his inimitable style about people who come to him asking what their 'mission' in life is. Missions, according, to Mr. Rao are not for the ordinary man or woman to worry about, unless one stretches the meaning of the term. The same may be true for moksha and the ordinary person. And the extraordinary person who is really headed for moksha would hardly need to go to an astrologer to figure out when he would go to moksha! Please do not take this as a sardonic comment but very earthy reality! No wonder that classics are full of yogas and references about job, marriage, happiness or a worldly nature, sickness, children, death but only a few slokas here and there about moksha and renunciation (bairagya). In a similar vein when people come asking which God they should worship -- it almost sounds at times that they are asking which stock they should buy, that is it is all about efficiency now. Which stock grows fastest. Which God gets one on the spiritual highway first or fastest! Mind-boggling! The potentials of astrology!! Lastly, getting back to which planet takes one to mokshavasthaa -- even if we figure out through logic, intuition, imagination or divine revelation showered upon us for a few milliseconds, how are we going to then check and confirm that the person did actually attain moksha or not? Would we do the oui-ja/ouiji board test? If the soul does not respond, they have gone to moksha, if they respond, they are floating about in the lower realms still! RR , "sriganeshh" <sriganeshh wrote: > > ok..let me modify my statement...earlier i have not conveyed what i > intended.. > 12th guru is supposed to bestow moksha and no further birth..the > position is believed to indicate that inspite of his good karma in > the last birth the soul has committed some sins for which it has > been made to take birth...whereas it is not the case with others > > is it so...? > > sriganeshh > > > > , "crystal pages" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Every single one of us is here in this worldly reality to finish > some > > of the karmic agenda from past. Most of us do not have guru in the > 12th! > > > > RR > > > > , "sriganeshh" <sriganeshh@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear RRji, > > > > > > excuse me for entereing in this thread... > > > > > > is it not 12th guru is interpreted as the one to complete the > > > unfinished agenda of last birth and as long as the native > realises > > > this and keeps going in the path shown by Jupiter, his life will > > > always be good...this is what my understanding...but kindly > clear my > > > doubts > > > > > > second you said //was it the nullification of GCY due to above > > > reasons?// does it mean to say GCY is bad....or obstacle...i > doubt > > > as this bestows different thinking patterns and bringing into > play > > > more cosmic power in the persons life...they seems to have some > kind > > > of strong support systems due to their previous karmas...right > now i > > > am not able to say anything more on this...but you have my > chart. > > > > > > there is some interesting discussion on the vedic astrology > forum > > > regarding this GCY...i am sure you would have gone through it... > > > > > > regards > > > sriganeshh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 dear sir, Is it posssible for a native with jup in 12th house that he renounces materialism and take up sanyasin? k.gopu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Dear Gopu, my two cents .. the answer is yes...It is my belief that 12th guru gives moksha especially if it is in ketu nakshatra...the term sanyasi should be construed in the present day environment..he need not renounce but sort of solitary reaper.... This is one thing i am still searching for answers but till date...the search remains..I will be very happy learned peoples in this forum clear this aspect with data analysis... sriganeshh , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote: > > > dear sir, > Is it posssible for a native with jup in 12th house > that he renounces materialism and take up sanyasin? > k.gopu > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Gope, well no one point makes anything u need more ingridents here a good 9, 10 5th and 1st houses respectively. I have an example here for u i have quoted this on KP's individual brilliance [than on his system] 17-1-1920, 21.00 Bangalore has Guru in 12th died just 2 yrs ago has 5 sons last one twins. he was very philantrophic from his poverty days to this better off days. he used to give min 30-50k a yr in charities to anyone saying they r poor need money for education, children or health etc. he was a Homeopath doc. but found v late some of them did drink /gamble and waste it and purpouse was defeated so in the last 10 yrs of his life MADE SURE he went to the school and paid the fees, no money for the alcholic father. tell me does he need to take sanyas to be charitable, good, noble he was a rationalist not a religious one used to question many pouplar things one of his best quote was on an Obitury adds we see in papers WE ARE SAD TO INFORM you X has reaced the lotus feet of the god. when it must read we r happy they reached there or say simply we are sad at the loss, than make contradictory claism on what we don't even know. K Gopu <kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: dear sir, Is it posssible for a native with jup in 12th house that he renounces materialism and take up sanyasin? k.gopu Prashantkumar G B -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group but off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. Please fix times for this in advance -*- 09840051861 How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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