Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Sriganesh, I agree in many cases of it i emphasie the last lines u also metnioned and add u r as great as ur difficulties and Sani as a hard task master will test ur mettle the stronger u make urself u come out with flying colors at the end else will fall by the way side. choice is ur up to anyone to rise and have a good contest with ur mind and become strogner and wiser this is a long term activity and no short cuts. prayers do see u r in the right track and fill the space where fears can otherwise come in and spoil the show-self made eitherway. bottom line of paryers is god helps those who help themselves.[not in selfish slant but in honest efforts it is meant-u do ur bit and god adds his] sriganeshh <sriganeshh > wrote: Dear bhaskar, thanks for your comment... you aptly summed up what i wanted to convey,. I am the firm believer that none of the planets (whether it is saturn, rahu or ketu or mars) are harmful rather they are assigned certain roles which they play. Roles may differ and that difference one has to find out from his personal horo..accept and realise what it envisages for you and you either avoid or do more according to the planets... for example, whenever venus dasa (maha/antara) runs , i have seen ending up doing more and more prayers..the list is big..two or three sahasranamas, pujas, mantra japas, short stotras etc., besides my daily routine sandhya vandana with gayatri japa, lalitha sahasranama puja, rudram, chamakam and sundara kandam ..it takes almost 2 hrs in a day...i tried to avoid many a times,,but no use..somehow i end up doing..it is happening again, i was wondering why venus is making me do all this so much... partially the answer cld be being the yogakaraka and lord of bhadaka stana, makes me to do to remove all obstacles before giving his yoga results....i may be wrong too..as i need to do more searching in this...but just example.. rather generalising that sade sani is bad will only make things more difficult with mind wandering on bad effects and how to counter that ...instead of focussing what is day to day life essence.. What i found from my experience is if one learns to ignore the problems and concentrate on his life other priorities, definitely some wisdom speaks in the heart and mind about how to go abt with the things...then all your problem get solved automatically once the right time comes... essentially the two word which sums up this is ...patience and perseverance ..saturnic qualities...if one have this, definitely he will be successful in the end.. regards sriganeshh , "bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear, > Your observations are good and shows Your interest in logical > argumentive discussions. > Saturn when Yogkaraka due to its natural characteristics will > delay. but definitely reward the native if he has been morally and > ethically good, in the end. Prior to this Guru will reward if its > also connected to houses which contribute, but it is not given the > permission to punish., whereas Saturn has been given the power to > punish and then reward if native is worth rewarding. Saturns > Sadesathi can not always be bad for all natives. It depends on a > individual horoscope plus the karmas related with his current > living.But what Saturn can give , no one can take away thats for sure. > > Bhaskar. > > > , "sriganeshh" > <sriganeshh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Prashant, Bhaskar and Prafulla, > > > > this thread is really educative and interesting one... > > > > Bhaskar: > > your posts are educative with many technicalities which is really > > good for learners like me. I will definitely come back to you on > > all your posts with my own doubts .... > > > > Prashant and Prafulla > > I consider saturn's transit in 7th from moon as very dificult phase > > as sometimes sade sati never troubles so much really. > > > > Coming to prafulla's question, when saturn happens to be yogakaraka > > (i add lord of the lagna),it makes one to work hard but equally > > rewards follows......in the end analysis, it proves to very much > > good one. > > > > Prashant and Prafulla > > what is the role of gochara vedas in sade sani and other planetary > > transits.... > > > > regards > > sriganeshh > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri kumar ji > > > > > > Will these results also be there, if saturn in yoga graha? > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > After every "victory" you have more enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gbp_kumar@ > > > > Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:51:32 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > Re: 3 Sadesathis in Life ? 24/2 -2 > > > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > > > > > I agree the points u have aid too. and one more in the mixed > > area Lagna > > > > and Chandra > > > > when Sani is in 10th of either of them or 10th lord one > looses > > a job, > > > > resigns/sacked or busines venture may close down if multi > product > > > > company one or tow of them may be shelved. funds crunch will > > force it > > > > even big names get a jolt. > > > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Kumar ji > > > > > > > > In addition to your analogy, My understanding of sade sati is: > > > > > > > > Vedic astrology is lunar based astrology (dasha phal is from > > moon's > > > > constellation, we take moon's nodes rahu / ketu as karmic > planets > > > > etc...). 12th and 2nd house is bandhana for native, and in a > > way transit > > > > from 12th to 2nd bhava from moon is bandhana to entire dasha > > phal. > > > > During sade sati dasha cease to work, and native gets the > results > > > > strictly per his efforts (karma)..in other words, bhagya phal > > comes to > > > > halt. > > > > > > > > Now why Moon's position in D9 instead of rashi chart? Perhaps > > bhagya is > > > > indicated by D9 and if bhagya has to cease ist existence, that > > is why > > > > D9. > > > > > > > > Yes, in transit when shani touches natal planets - their > > respective > > > > results are observed to suffer. BTW, saturn's transit in lagna > is > > > > considered good. Nadi (Deva keralam) prescribes this rule in > D9. > > I > > > > presume, same can be extended to other vargas (not sure of > rashi > > chart). > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > After every "victory" you have more enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gbp_kumar@ > > > > > Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:27:23 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > Re: 3 Sadesathis in Life ? 24/2 > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar, > > > > > Sade-sat is a limb of Gochara and all gochara r normally > > based on > > > > > chandra WHY? what do all the Puranasa, ithasas, upanishads > > say.... > > > > Mind > > > > > over matter. > > > > > > > > > > the invincible men or rakshas did succumb to small issues > > of the > > > > mind > > > > > Be it Bali chakravarthi a good king but did have the ego > > that he was > > > > the > > > > > giver and unlimite and forgot he was given by the ultimate > > giver his > > > > > moksha comes thru it > > > > > so did ravana in penultmate day when Rama asked him as a > > charriot, > > > > > charioteer, weaponless man to come back tommorrow with it, > > this hurt > > > > his > > > > > ego a mere mortal could say it to him if he igoored it and > > came back > > > > he > > > > > could have still invincile with all his boons his mind lost > > the > > > > internal > > > > > strenght he had. > > > > > > > > > > so SADE-SAT over chandra is crucial for real study > > > > > and over sun it is always true when Ravi tranists sani > > some set > > > > back to > > > > > father and patrnal circles will be there and over Moon to > > mother and > > > > > maternal circles health, finance u can see me sayign it in > > posts > > > > where > > > > > this sade-sat has come even last week uc an find some. > > > > > > > > > > and so too Ssani on all other karakas, but we CAN'T GIVE > > EACH 7.5 > > > > YRS > > > > > JUST A TRANSIT OR MALEFIC aspect. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear > > Members, > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday attended one astrological lecture. The lecturer > > > > > who was also talking on Sadesathi mentioned that we > > normally take > > > > > sadesathi when it appears on Moon, but we should check > the > > effects > > > > > also with reference to the Sun and Ascendant, both, and > > treat the > > > > > same way as treated to Moon Sadesathi.Moon,he said the > > effect would > > > > > be mentall toll, > > > > > with Sun normally an elder of the family goes (I > > experienced this > > > > 3.5 > > > > > years back when Sat entered gemini near Natal Sun, my > > fathers elder > > > > > brother expired and my father also suffered deodnal > > rupture in > > > > > intestines and admitted to Jaslok hospital in Bombay in > > serious > > > > > condition, but saved and stayed at hospital for 3 > > months).,also > > > > > will power loosens, affects decesion making,connected to > > atma,etc. > > > > > For the Ascendant I was told,it takes toll on the > physical > > body > > > > > of the native, specially if Saturn is lord of, or > > connected to > > > > > 6,8,12th house of ones horoscope and also if MahaDasha > > Lord permits > > > > > this to happen. Start counting Sadesathi 45 Degrees on > > either side > > > > of > > > > > Ascendant,Sun or Moon and not when entered Rashi.,we were > > told. > > > > > These rules also come in Nadi, but all the same, some > > points to > > > > > ponder . > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail > > Beta. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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