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How do you know for sure that it is your soul that speaks to you,

Lyudmila_31?

 

RR

 

, "lyudmila_31"

<lyudmila_31 wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini!

> If you take the soul - where could you define, place - the bottom?

> The roots are in your ethreal body when you are only a light in the

> space and in the ethereal bodies of your parents.

> But this roots are not only in the lower part of your energetical

> structure as copied by physical body.

> I have seen many secrets of Gods, but still my soul is not silent...

>

> Lyudmila

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Lyudmila ji,

> >

> > If only SAINTS came across as being more SANE, generally!

> >

> > The question has been asked many times over the centuries if not

> > millennia!

> >

> > "Enquiring minds want to know" as the tabloids in western grocery

> > stores ask, impudently!

> >

> > What is the bottom-line in your personal and direct experience??

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > , "lyudmila_31"

> > <lyudmila_31@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini!

> > > Well, the person who is silent is more saint (sacred) than the

> > other?

> > >

> > > Lyudmila

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Lyudmila_31,

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps not if one focuses only on the segment quoted!

Context

> is

> > > > everything -- in this case it was in the preceeding sentences.

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "lyudmila_31"

> > > > <lyudmila_31@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Good day for all members!

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear RR!

> > > > > /This inherent will to live and to get better is a

> > > > > palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit/

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you really think that the life span depends on our inner

> > will

> > > to

> > > > > live?

> > > > >

> > > > > Lyudmila

> > > > >

> > > > > , Bhaskar Maheswari

> > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I endorse Your views. And have personal experience

> whenever

> > I

> > > > > have listened

> > > > > > to the inner voice and nurtured for some time it has

> shown

> > > the

> > > > > path , its

> > > > > > been easy to make a choice as the flash comes in the

mind

> > > what

> > > > > has to

> > > > > > done. This inner voice is actually nothing but

intuition

> > > which

> > > > > has to be developed. Like You said it speaks softly and is

> > > > inaudible.

> > > > > more clear

> > > > > > to exalted souls living life morally & truthfully the

way

> > we

> > > > are

> > > > > all supposed to.

> > > > > > I agree with You totally that its quite but never

quelled

> > if

> > > we

> > > > > dont listen

> > > > > > to it for a period of time, but also rises when we

again

> > look

> > > > > towards it for solace and answer. It definitely should be

> paid

> > > > > attention and respected.

> > > > > > But You see all this discussion has erupted only

because

> > the

> > > > > gentlemen

> > > > > > in question want to use the 'Ganga Jal " for all &

sundry

> > > > purposes

> > > > > > which of course is not possible to normal people, only

to

> > > those

> > > > > who have access to Ganga water all the time. All are not so

> > > > > lucky....................

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Mr. Maheswari,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What you state is very correct and accurately describes

how

> > > many

> > > > > > people feel. Many get frustrated with the term, inner

soul,

> > > > > > innersource and inner spirit, etc. Part of the reason is

> that

> > > it

> > > > is

> > > > > > not clearly defined or demarcated and sometimes glibly

> > utilized

> > > > by

> > > > > > proponents (many of whom do not understand fully what

they

> > are

> > > > > > talking about, put bluntly!) as a cure-all. The other

> problem

> > > is

> > > > > that

> > > > > > most of us view spirit and spirituality as

> > something 'separate'

> > > > > from

> > > > > > the rest of our human experience. Perhaps it is not. A

lot

> of

> > > > > > disservice has been done to ourselves by this artificial

> > > > > segregation.

> > > > > > Inner spirit is certainly not something that is going to

> > > replace

> > > > > > doctors and medicines or surgery but even the most hard-

> nosed

> > > > > > scientists and doctors admit that without this inner will

> to

> > > > live,

> > > > > > often all the chemicals and procedures prove to be simply

a

> > > waste

> > > > > of

> > > > > > time, and money! This inherent will to live and to get

> better

> > > is

> > > > a

> > > > > > palpable manifestation and expression of this inner

spirit.

> > > Some

> > > > > may

> > > > > > call it the inner healer and go a bit overboard in

singing

> > its

> > > > > > praise. That said, in some rare individuals this will has

> > been

> > > > > known

> > > > > > to make medical miracles happen as also in other aspects

of

> > > life.

> > > > > > However, it is very variable and personal and most cannot

> > rely

> > > > upon

> > > > > > it all the time and must resort to easier paths, such as

> > > popping

> > > > a

> > > > > > pill or taking an injection etc.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On a regular level, this inner spirit is capable of

telling

> > us

> > > > the

> > > > > > right from wrong. We may call that function as conscience

> but

> > > > > > conscience is not localized in some area in brain or at

> least

> > > not

> > > > > > clearly defined so far. Conscience, morals, moral values,

a

> > > calm

> > > > > > sense of wisdom are functions or attributes of this inner

> > > spirit

> > > > or

> > > > > > inner voice (another name used by some).

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One thing is certain! In most of us, this voice speaks

very

> > > > softly,

> > > > > > almost inaudible particularly in the din of the normal

rat

> > race

> > > > of

> > > > > > worldly existence. Quiet but never completely quelled. It

> > rises

> > > > > > dramatically -- particularly when we begin to pay

attention

> > to

> > > > it,

> > > > > > and nurture it. It is a significant and important part of

> us

> > > and

> > > > > must

> > > > > > be respected and paid attention to.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Bhaskar

Maheswari

> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Mr.Chopra,

> > > > > > > We are living in a world of mortals and majority of

them

> > are

> > > > > > common folks. How do we have access to listening to our

> inner

> > > > soul

> > > > > > when most of us are spending major part of our day in

> trying

> > to

> > > > > make

> > > > > > two ends meet ? And those whose stomaches are full ,how

> many

> > of

> > > > > them

> > > > > > have taken the path of spirituality to make them capable

of

> > > > > listening

> > > > > > to their inner voice ? See all this talking looks good

but

> > when

> > > > it

> > > > > > comes down to getting a stomache ache or back pain most

of

> us

> > > > would

> > > > > > go to Doctors to get the right medicinces rather than

> > listening

> > > > to

> > > > > > inner voice to guide us. Now You may argue that the inner

> > voice

> > > > > must

> > > > > > be telling You to go to the Doctor. In the same manner

when

> > > > people

> > > > > > are facing problems in their lives for no apparent

reasons

> > they

> > > > > have

> > > > > > to take access to Astrologers, prayers, visits to temples

> > setc,

> > > > to

> > > > > > solve them. They dont have time or vitality in tough

times

> to

> > > sit

> > > > > > down and listen to inner voice.Any way arguments on this

> > issue

> > > > can

> > > > > go

> > > > > > on and on with no useful end.

> > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > > > > use your inner soul because who knows the system is

right

> > > > > > or not some time

> > > > > > > it hapens the system which we have been using got to

know

> > > that

> > > > it

> > > > > > was

> > > > > > > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner

> > soul.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not

> > waste

> > > > time

> > > > > > > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the

> > accuracy

> > > of

> > > > > > > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the

other,

> > > right?

> > > > > > These

> > > > > > > > become moot points!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> <%

> > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > > > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able

to

> > > > predict

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > any one

> > > > > > > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice

of

> > > your

> > > > > soul

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > > > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from

Prashari

> > > System

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > prediction

> > > > > > > > > > there are other systems which give accurate

> > results.If

> > > > used

> > > > > in

> > > > > > > > proper way

> > > > > > > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%

> > 40.co.in>>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > <%

> > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > <%

> > > > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if

u

> do

> > > the

> > > > > > right

> > > > > > > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive

> > > technique

> > > > to

> > > > > > study

> > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u

and

> > > > anything

> > > > > > can be

> > > > > > > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini!

Well you have asked one of the most interesting questions, for

sometimes I have the feeling that all the souls are united together -

in one soul, but in the other moment I am separate from the others...

There is one another kind os self-consciousness which is not placed

in the time and space but could tell you about all the times and

spaces simultaneously. But how could you catch this feeling of

duality?

 

Lyudmila

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> How do you know for sure that it is your soul that speaks to you,

> Lyudmila_31?

>

> RR

>

> , "lyudmila_31"

> <lyudmila_31@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini!

> > If you take the soul - where could you define, place - the bottom?

> > The roots are in your ethreal body when you are only a light in

the

> > space and in the ethereal bodies of your parents.

> > But this roots are not only in the lower part of your energetical

> > structure as copied by physical body.

> > I have seen many secrets of Gods, but still my soul is not

silent...

> >

> > Lyudmila

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Lyudmila ji,

> > >

> > > If only SAINTS came across as being more SANE, generally!

> > >

> > > The question has been asked many times over the centuries if

not

> > > millennia!

> > >

> > > "Enquiring minds want to know" as the tabloids in western

grocery

> > > stores ask, impudently!

> > >

> > > What is the bottom-line in your personal and direct experience??

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > >

> > > , "lyudmila_31"

> > > <lyudmila_31@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini!

> > > > Well, the person who is silent is more saint (sacred) than

the

> > > other?

> > > >

> > > > Lyudmila

> > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Lyudmila_31,

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps not if one focuses only on the segment quoted!

> Context

> > is

> > > > > everything -- in this case it was in the preceeding

sentences.

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , "lyudmila_31"

> > > > > <lyudmila_31@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Good day for all members!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear RR!

> > > > > > /This inherent will to live and to get better is a

> > > > > > palpable manifestation and expression of this inner

spirit/

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Do you really think that the life span depends on our

inner

> > > will

> > > > to

> > > > > > live?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lyudmila

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , Bhaskar

Maheswari

> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sir,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I endorse Your views. And have personal experience

> > whenever

> > > I

> > > > > > have listened

> > > > > > > to the inner voice and nurtured for some time it has

> > shown

> > > > the

> > > > > > path , its

> > > > > > > been easy to make a choice as the flash comes in the

> mind

> > > > what

> > > > > > has to

> > > > > > > done. This inner voice is actually nothing but

> intuition

> > > > which

> > > > > > has to be developed. Like You said it speaks softly and

is

> > > > > inaudible.

> > > > > > more clear

> > > > > > > to exalted souls living life morally & truthfully the

> way

> > > we

> > > > > are

> > > > > > all supposed to.

> > > > > > > I agree with You totally that its quite but never

> quelled

> > > if

> > > > we

> > > > > > dont listen

> > > > > > > to it for a period of time, but also rises when we

> again

> > > look

> > > > > > towards it for solace and answer. It definitely should be

> > paid

> > > > > > attention and respected.

> > > > > > > But You see all this discussion has erupted only

> because

> > > the

> > > > > > gentlemen

> > > > > > > in question want to use the 'Ganga Jal " for all &

> sundry

> > > > > purposes

> > > > > > > which of course is not possible to normal people,

only

> to

> > > > those

> > > > > > who have access to Ganga water all the time. All are not

so

> > > > > > lucky....................

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > Dear Mr. Maheswari,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What you state is very correct and accurately describes

> how

> > > > many

> > > > > > > people feel. Many get frustrated with the term, inner

> soul,

> > > > > > > innersource and inner spirit, etc. Part of the reason

is

> > that

> > > > it

> > > > > is

> > > > > > > not clearly defined or demarcated and sometimes glibly

> > > utilized

> > > > > by

> > > > > > > proponents (many of whom do not understand fully what

> they

> > > are

> > > > > > > talking about, put bluntly!) as a cure-all. The other

> > problem

> > > > is

> > > > > > that

> > > > > > > most of us view spirit and spirituality as

> > > something 'separate'

> > > > > > from

> > > > > > > the rest of our human experience. Perhaps it is not. A

> lot

> > of

> > > > > > > disservice has been done to ourselves by this

artificial

> > > > > > segregation.

> > > > > > > Inner spirit is certainly not something that is going

to

> > > > replace

> > > > > > > doctors and medicines or surgery but even the most hard-

> > nosed

> > > > > > > scientists and doctors admit that without this inner

will

> > to

> > > > > live,

> > > > > > > often all the chemicals and procedures prove to be

simply

> a

> > > > waste

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > time, and money! This inherent will to live and to get

> > better

> > > > is

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > palpable manifestation and expression of this inner

> spirit.

> > > > Some

> > > > > > may

> > > > > > > call it the inner healer and go a bit overboard in

> singing

> > > its

> > > > > > > praise. That said, in some rare individuals this will

has

> > > been

> > > > > > known

> > > > > > > to make medical miracles happen as also in other

aspects

> of

> > > > life.

> > > > > > > However, it is very variable and personal and most

cannot

> > > rely

> > > > > upon

> > > > > > > it all the time and must resort to easier paths, such

as

> > > > popping

> > > > > a

> > > > > > > pill or taking an injection etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On a regular level, this inner spirit is capable of

> telling

> > > us

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > right from wrong. We may call that function as

conscience

> > but

> > > > > > > conscience is not localized in some area in brain or at

> > least

> > > > not

> > > > > > > clearly defined so far. Conscience, morals, moral

values,

> a

> > > > calm

> > > > > > > sense of wisdom are functions or attributes of this

inner

> > > > spirit

> > > > > or

> > > > > > > inner voice (another name used by some).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One thing is certain! In most of us, this voice speaks

> very

> > > > > softly,

> > > > > > > almost inaudible particularly in the din of the normal

> rat

> > > race

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > worldly existence. Quiet but never completely quelled.

It

> > > rises

> > > > > > > dramatically -- particularly when we begin to pay

> attention

> > > to

> > > > > it,

> > > > > > > and nurture it. It is a significant and important part

of

> > us

> > > > and

> > > > > > must

> > > > > > > be respected and paid attention to.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , Bhaskar

> Maheswari

> > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Chopra,

> > > > > > > > We are living in a world of mortals and majority of

> them

> > > are

> > > > > > > common folks. How do we have access to listening to our

> > inner

> > > > > soul

> > > > > > > when most of us are spending major part of our day in

> > trying

> > > to

> > > > > > make

> > > > > > > two ends meet ? And those whose stomaches are full ,how

> > many

> > > of

> > > > > > them

> > > > > > > have taken the path of spirituality to make them

capable

> of

> > > > > > listening

> > > > > > > to their inner voice ? See all this talking looks good

> but

> > > when

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > comes down to getting a stomache ache or back pain most

> of

> > us

> > > > > would

> > > > > > > go to Doctors to get the right medicinces rather than

> > > listening

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > inner voice to guide us. Now You may argue that the

inner

> > > voice

> > > > > > must

> > > > > > > be telling You to go to the Doctor. In the same manner

> when

> > > > > people

> > > > > > > are facing problems in their lives for no apparent

> reasons

> > > they

> > > > > > have

> > > > > > > to take access to Astrologers, prayers, visits to

temples

> > > setc,

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > solve them. They dont have time or vitality in tough

> times

> > to

> > > > sit

> > > > > > > down and listen to inner voice.Any way arguments on

this

> > > issue

> > > > > can

> > > > > > go

> > > > > > > on and on with no useful end.

> > > > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > use your inner soul because who knows the system is

> right

> > > > > > > or not some time

> > > > > > > > it hapens the system which we have been using got to

> know

> > > > that

> > > > > it

> > > > > > > was

> > > > > > > > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your

inner

> > > soul.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must

not

> > > waste

> > > > > time

> > > > > > > > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the

> > > accuracy

> > > > of

> > > > > > > > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the

> other,

> > > > right?

> > > > > > > These

> > > > > > > > > become moot points!

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > <%

> > > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > > > > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will

able

> to

> > > > > predict

> > > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > > any one

> > > > > > > > > > without any system if you able to listen the

voice

> of

> > > > your

> > > > > > soul

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > > > > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from

> Prashari

> > > > System

> > > > > of

> > > > > > > > > prediction

> > > > > > > > > > > there are other systems which give accurate

> > > results.If

> > > > > used

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > > proper way

> > > > > > > > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%

> > > 40.co.in>>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > <%

> > > > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > > > <%

> > > > > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > > > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions

if

> u

> > do

> > > > the

> > > > > > > right

> > > > > > > > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive

> > > > technique

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > study

> > > > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u

> and

> > > > > anything

> > > > > > > can be

> > > > > > > > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

>