Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Sri K.N. Rao does consider the 4H for formal education & 5H for higher studies.....here there seems to be minor divide between South & North way of looking at this houses for education. Similarly when 4H is for mother, then 10H should be for father....yet, we seems to consider 9H for father....those days of father teaching the son on the tricks of the trade ( career ).....( carpenter son is a carpenter or a Panditji son is a Pandit- theory or belief or convention of those days ).... does not seem to be relevant today as in today's scenario Father & Son together sit together to enjoy vices like " smoking or drinking".or Mother & Daughter competing in making fashion statements !!....etc. where is the question of father being a guru ?? ( in a broad sense )......technically 9H is supposed to be for Guru...... While some consider Jupiter or Venus for marriage...( depending upon gender)....there are some well known successful astros who consider Mars for marriage for valid reasons.... Any answers from those who often tempted to "move" or "rotate" the lagna or planets or a single planet degrees ( in some cases ) even when someone is confirming the birth time..... I have keenly observed even Sri K.N. Rao has been rectifying the birth time of Mr. Amitabh Bachan from 14:54 hrs to 15:30 hrs in his analysis ( refer the printed articles in Journal of Astrology ) and the ones that used in the highly published telecast on Indian Aaj Tak Channel on Sundays. I know for sure that Mr. P. Kumar is ardent follower of Sri K.N. Rao like me....( would appreciate if you could correct me on this ) as seen from his various posts from time to time.... Similarly for the horoscope of Mr. Atal Behari Vajpee.....case.. Doing or Fixing or "rotating" birth times to fix the known events is not an easy task and even astro_legends are still making those fine tuning.....shows that there is some amount of research to be done in this area...... unless one reaches such high mental states of reasoning....one should detest from correcting birth time by 9 minutes, when someone has confirmed the birth data. In one case - "Express Star Teller" magazine where the given birth time, chart and to an extent analysis given on Mr. Lal Krishnan Advani does not match......inspite of local time correction ( pre-independence.....time zones....issues ) how correct it is done....in such cases, better to ignore such cases than spending time......remember a gentleman - Tatvam-Asi [nameisego ] often seen in VA forums ( I do not know this person, other his postings in the group) once declined to comment or waste his time when someone gave him in the group a "authentic horoscope" of child born to Indian filmistar Mr. Hritik Roshan saying it does not match the richness or popularity of his father !!! ( otherwise this was hotly analysed or commented horoscope in VA forums ) with regards, sreeram srinivas _____ KNRaoJyotish [KNRaoJyotish] On Behalf Of Vinay Kumar Friday, July 21, 2006 10:26 PM KNRaoJyotish [KNRaoJyotish] Anwer to Question 2 - Attn: P. Kumar Dear Kumar, 4th house is the house of formal education. You can refer to any classic and it will say 4th house as the house of formal education. I do know that Sri KN Rao takes the 5th house as well since the 5th house is the house of intelligence. It is not primarily the house of education but of ones intelligence which is so important for education. So when the 5th house or the 5th lord is strong that also furthers education. In this way the 5th can also be used for education and it is not wrong. Remember that a graha in the 5th house has an argala (intervention) on the 4th house, meaning that for good education (4th house) the 5th house of intelligence is important. A benefic in the 5th (Mercury, Guru) is a boon for good education. Apart from this the 3rd house can be taken for education up to the basic or primary level. The 9th house can be taken for education of the highest level, like Phd, doctorates etc. Agreed that an instance or two of correct predictions is not enough, but at least Sreeram made a start. My compliments for him were only for this question which he got it right. I personally do not know of how many such correct predictions he has given; or his depth of the understanding of the subject or his talent in vast field of Jyotish. BTW what are the conditions and pre-qualifications necessary for posting queries like the one that I did? Regards, Vinay .. <http://geo./serv?s=97359714&grpId=16918584&grpspId=1600082690&msgI d=580&stime=1153501110> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 You wrote: "...Sri KN Rao takes the 5th house as well since the 5th house is the house of intelligence." No, Shri K.N.Rao takes 'primarily' the 5th house for education and not 'as well'. Then you wrote: "It is not primarily the house of education but of ones intelligence which is so important for education." Is it not your own verdict ? Further, it lacks astrological contents. Now see the conditions and pre-qualifications I had referred to: 1) Before posing such queries, correctness of a chart must be assured or helpful hints must be provided for rectification. That is why I always ask for 'source of TOB' and 'margin of error possible'. From Rasi to Shashtyamsha every chart has its own importance. Shashtyamsha changes every 2 minutes. Thus, need of rectification can never be undermined. 2) The person posing such queries and commenting on responses received must be a good astrologer himself. Only then a person can appreciates the depth of astrology and will never comment on an analysis the way you had commented on the one given by Sreenivas. I consider it quite misguiding and hence most irresposible. Most persons deviate from basics and start justifying the events on any given chart as though giving astrological prediction is a child's play. One should always stick to basics, follow undisputed classical dictums and apply sound common sense. I always try to stick to basics illustration of which can be seen in my article on the website of respected Shri K.N.Rao at the link given below: http://www.journalofastrology.com/ARTICLES/professional_crises.htm P.Kumar - Vinay Kumar KNRaoJyotish Friday, July 21, 2006 10:25 PM [KNRaoJyotish] Anwer to Question 2 - Attn: P. Kumar Dear Kumar, 4th house is the house of formal education. You can refer to any classic and it will say 4th house as the house of formal education. I do know that Sri KN Rao takes the 5th house as well since the 5th house is the house of intelligence. It is not primarily the house of education but of ones intelligence which is so important for education. So when the 5th house or the 5th lord is strong that also furthers education. In this way the 5th can also be used for education and it is not wrong. Remember that a graha in the 5th house has an argala (intervention) on the 4th house, meaning that for good education (4th house) the 5th house of intelligence is important. A benefic in the 5th (Mercury, Guru) is a boon for good education. Apart from this the 3rd house can be taken for education up to the basic or primary level. The 9th house can be taken for education of the highest level, like Phd, doctorates etc. Agreed that an instance or two of correct predictions is not enough, but at least Sreeram made a start. My compliments for him were only for this question which he got it right. I personally do not know of how many such correct predictions he has given; or his depth of the understanding of the subject or his talent in vast field of Jyotish. BTW what are the conditions and pre-qualifications necessary for posting queries like the one that I did? Regards, Vinay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 BPHS associates father with the 10th, not the 9th. Guru is one of the five fathers. , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > Sri K.N. Rao does consider the 4H for formal education & 5H for higher > studies.....here there seems to be minor divide between South & North way of > looking at this houses for education. Similarly when 4H is for mother, > then 10H should be for father....yet, we seems to consider 9H for > father....those days of father teaching the son on the tricks of the trade ( > career ).....( carpenter son is a carpenter or a Panditji son is a Pandit- > theory or belief or convention of those days ).... does not seem to be > relevant today as in today's scenario Father & Son together sit together to > enjoy vices like " smoking or drinking".or Mother & Daughter competing in > making fashion statements !!....etc. where is the question of father being > a guru ?? ( in a broad sense )......technically 9H is supposed to be for > Guru...... > > While some consider Jupiter or Venus for marriage...( depending upon > gender)....there are some well known successful astros who consider Mars > for marriage for valid reasons.... > > Any answers from those who often tempted to "move" or "rotate" the lagna or > planets or a single planet degrees ( in some cases ) even when someone is > confirming the birth time..... I have keenly observed even Sri K.N. Rao has > been rectifying the birth time of Mr. Amitabh Bachan from 14:54 hrs to 15:30 > hrs in his analysis ( refer the printed articles in Journal of Astrology ) > and the ones that used in the highly published telecast on Indian Aaj Tak > Channel on Sundays. I know for sure that Mr. P. Kumar is ardent follower > of Sri K.N. Rao like me....( would appreciate if you could correct me on > this ) as seen from his various posts from time to time.... > > Similarly for the horoscope of Mr. Atal Behari Vajpee.....case.. Doing > or Fixing or "rotating" birth times to fix the known events is not an easy > task and even astro_legends are still making those fine tuning.....shows > that there is some amount of research to be done in this area...... unless > one reaches such high mental states of reasoning....one should detest from > correcting birth time by 9 minutes, when someone has confirmed the birth > data. > > In one case - "Express Star Teller" magazine where the given birth time, > chart and to an extent analysis given on Mr. Lal Krishnan Advani does not > match......inspite of local time correction ( pre- independence.....time > zones....issues ) how correct it is done....in such cases, better to ignore > such cases than spending time......remember a gentleman - Tatvam-Asi > [nameisego] often seen in VA forums ( I do not know this person, > other his postings in the group) once declined to comment or waste his time > when someone gave him in the group a "authentic horoscope" of child born to > Indian filmistar Mr. Hritik Roshan saying it does not match the richness or > popularity of his father !!! ( otherwise this was hotly analysed or > commented horoscope in VA forums ) > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > > > _____ > > KNRaoJyotish [KNRaoJyotish] On > Behalf Of Vinay Kumar > Friday, July 21, 2006 10:26 PM > KNRaoJyotish > [KNRaoJyotish] Anwer to Question 2 - Attn: P. Kumar > > > > Dear Kumar, > 4th house is the house of formal education. You can refer to any > classic and it will say 4th house as the house of formal education. I > do know that Sri KN Rao takes the 5th house as well since the 5th > house is the house of intelligence. It is not primarily the house of > education but of ones intelligence which is so important for > education. So when the 5th house or the 5th lord is strong that also > furthers education. In this way the 5th can also be used for education > and it is not wrong. Remember that a graha in the 5th house has an > argala (intervention) on the 4th house, meaning that for good > education (4th house) the 5th house of intelligence is important. A > benefic in the 5th (Mercury, Guru) is a boon for good education. Apart > from this the 3rd house can be taken for education up to the basic or > primary level. The 9th house can be taken for education of the highest > level, like Phd, doctorates etc. > > Agreed that an instance or two of correct predictions is not enough, > but at least Sreeram made a start. My compliments for him were only > for this question which he got it right. I personally do not know of > how many such correct predictions he has given; or his depth of the > understanding of the subject or his talent in vast field of Jyotish. > > BTW what are the conditions and pre-qualifications necessary for > posting queries like the one that I did? > > Regards, > Vinay > > > . > > <http://geo./serv? s=97359714&grpId=16918584&grpspId=1600082690&msgI > d=580&stime=1153501110> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Dear Rohini, I think BPHS mentions the indications of father in the effects of the Dharma (9th bhava). Again in Chapter on Padas he gives the name Pitrupada to the arudha of the 9th bhava. Chandrashekhar. crystal pages wrote: > > BPHS associates father with the 10th, not the 9th. > Guru is one of the five fathers. > > > <%40>, "sreeram srinivas" > <sreeram64 wrote: > > > > Sri K.N. Rao does consider the 4H for formal education & 5H for > higher > > studies.....here there seems to be minor divide between South & > North way of > > looking at this houses for education. Similarly when 4H is for > mother, > > then 10H should be for father....yet, we seems to consider 9H for > > father....those days of father teaching the son on the tricks of > the trade ( > > career ).....( carpenter son is a carpenter or a Panditji son is a > Pandit- > > theory or belief or convention of those days ).... does not seem to > be > > relevant today as in today's scenario Father & Son together sit > together to > > enjoy vices like " smoking or drinking".or Mother & Daughter > competing in > > making fashion statements !!....etc. where is the question of > father being > > a guru ?? ( in a broad sense )......technically 9H is supposed to > be for > > Guru...... > > > > While some consider Jupiter or Venus for marriage...( depending upon > > gender)....there are some well known successful astros who > consider Mars > > for marriage for valid reasons.... > > > > Any answers from those who often tempted to "move" or "rotate" the > lagna or > > planets or a single planet degrees ( in some cases ) even when > someone is > > confirming the birth time..... I have keenly observed even Sri K.N. > Rao has > > been rectifying the birth time of Mr. Amitabh Bachan from 14:54 hrs > to 15:30 > > hrs in his analysis ( refer the printed articles in Journal of > Astrology ) > > and the ones that used in the highly published telecast on Indian > Aaj Tak > > Channel on Sundays. I know for sure that Mr. P. Kumar is ardent > follower > > of Sri K.N. Rao like me....( would appreciate if you could correct > me on > > this ) as seen from his various posts from time to time.... > > > > Similarly for the horoscope of Mr. Atal Behari > Vajpee.....case.. Doing > > or Fixing or "rotating" birth times to fix the known events is not > an easy > > task and even astro_legends are still making those fine > tuning.....shows > > that there is some amount of research to be done in this area...... > unless > > one reaches such high mental states of reasoning....one should > detest from > > correcting birth time by 9 minutes, when someone has confirmed the > birth > > data. > > > > In one case - "Express Star Teller" magazine where the given birth > time, > > chart and to an extent analysis given on Mr. Lal Krishnan Advani > does not > > match......inspite of local time correction ( pre- > independence.....time > > zones....issues ) how correct it is done....in such cases, better > to ignore > > such cases than spending time......remember a gentleman - Tatvam-Asi > > [nameisego] often seen in VA forums ( I do not know this person, > > other his postings in the group) once declined to comment or waste > his time > > when someone gave him in the group a "authentic horoscope" of child > born to > > Indian filmistar Mr. Hritik Roshan saying it does not match the > richness or > > popularity of his father !!! ( otherwise this was hotly analysed or > > commented horoscope in VA forums ) > > > > with regards, > > sreeram srinivas > > > > > > _____ > > > > KNRaoJyotish > <KNRaoJyotish%40> > [KNRaoJyotish > <KNRaoJyotish%40>] On > > Behalf Of Vinay Kumar > > Friday, July 21, 2006 10:26 PM > > KNRaoJyotish <KNRaoJyotish%40> > > [KNRaoJyotish] Anwer to Question 2 - Attn: P. Kumar > > > > > > > > Dear Kumar, > > 4th house is the house of formal education. You can refer to any > > classic and it will say 4th house as the house of formal education. > I > > do know that Sri KN Rao takes the 5th house as well since the 5th > > house is the house of intelligence. It is not primarily the house of > > education but of ones intelligence which is so important for > > education. So when the 5th house or the 5th lord is strong that also > > furthers education. In this way the 5th can also be used for > education > > and it is not wrong. Remember that a graha in the 5th house has an > > argala (intervention) on the 4th house, meaning that for good > > education (4th house) the 5th house of intelligence is important. A > > benefic in the 5th (Mercury, Guru) is a boon for good education. > Apart > > from this the 3rd house can be taken for education up to the basic > or > > primary level. The 9th house can be taken for education of the > highest > > level, like Phd, doctorates etc. > > > > Agreed that an instance or two of correct predictions is not enough, > > but at least Sreeram made a start. My compliments for him were only > > for this question which he got it right. I personally do not know of > > how many such correct predictions he has given; or his depth of the > > understanding of the subject or his talent in vast field of Jyotish. > > > > BTW what are the conditions and pre-qualifications necessary for > > posting queries like the one that I did? > > > > Regards, > > Vinay > > > > > > . > > > > <http://geo./serv? <http://geo./serv?> > s=97359714&grpId=16918584&grpspId=1600082690&msgI > > d=580&stime=1153501110> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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