Anwer to Question 2 - Manjunath

July 21, 2006

Manjunath-ji,

Yes this is the exception rule that I was referring to. If you look at

the Navamsha chart as a separate chart; it's debilitation in the 8th

house is favorable. Debilitated 3rd, 6th or 8th lords are favorable as

also are grahas debilitated in the 3rd house, 6th house or the 8th

house. I think Sri. KN Rao is absolutely right on this point. However

I do not think that a debilitated 11th lord or a debilitated 12th lord

or planets debilitated in these houses are favorable. The 12th is

neutral house also and the 11th is a good house although a slightly

evil house. In my opinion it applies only to 3rd, 6th and 8th houses.

Yes I can assure you that the chart has never been discussed anywhere

before on any list. This is the first time.

Regards,

Vinay

[] On

Behalf Of M. Sharma

Friday, July 21, 2006 7:08 AM

Re: Anwer to Question 2 (to Satish and Vinay)

Satish-ji

You raise some good points. I thought the analysis was good with lot

of explantion, but as you pointed out - there are some disconnects

that hopefully Sreeram can explain.

Vinay-ji

In Navamsa why would Jupiter in eighth (debilitated) give very good

results?? Is this the exception rule that you are referring to?

Please, also assure me that this chart has never been discussed in

this group or other groups. I am asking this because there was a

Panditji who exposed a Quiz setup (people knew the answer/event for

the quiz that was posted) that went on in another astrology group

last year. Thank You

MS

July 21, 2006

There are two schools of thought on horoscope interpretation :

First

Who view the birth chart for basic promises which are "modified" or

"caliberated" with Varga positions that planets obtain. In this case, this

school of thought consider Varga or divisional charts as separate "charts"

and include aspects in their analysis.. Sri K.N. Rao belongs to this

school of thought

Second

This school "overlays" the varga positions of the planets on to the birth

chart and then interpret accordingly. Traditionalists & Astro_Stalwarts

like Sri Santhanam or Sri D.V. Subba Rao or Sri P.S. Iyer (..to my

knowledge) support this line of thinking. "Aspects in vargas" are

strictly NO No.... Going by this analogy debilitated Jupiter is still in 4H

( D-9 is overlaid on D-1 birth chart )

Just to stretch the topic further, in D-1, (keeping 4H as focus ), 6HL

Jupiter is in 4H i.e. 3H from 4H....we all know that 3H indicates ones

determinations, obstinatism....etc.., its coming to 4H the house of

education...gives "dogged" determinism to the native..... further, the

research findings learnt through my astro_gurus is that in every important

event in life....there is a connection to 8H or 8HL ( dasha or transists ).

Kindly test this principles on your individual horoscopes and for I find it

working with good success.

If one were to look to hindu mythologies, there is no mention of the

"zodiac" or "lagna"......( in a very broad sense )....the importance is

given to "muhurta" of an event traced to a nakshatra.......for

prediction.....how & when the house system equal or unequal or bhava madhya

( sage sripathi system ) is a subject of great intense debate.

Further to make things complicated, the horoscope interpretation can be

broadly based

First - on the planets and their relative positions in vargas

Second - using the dispositor theory

Third - planets and their nakshatra lords relationships......

fourth - using planets in the horoscope without any degrees being considered

( nadi methods )

fiveth - same as fourth + extensive use of transists

What, When & How to apply this methods in isolation or through combinations

or how much weightage to be given in each of this case during their analysis

is a subject of research. Some seems to give importance to transist

position of planets, others Dasha periods + transits, dasha periods +

ashtakvarga + transists..... I am sure many astro_members have their own

derived methods based on above lines......possibly very few or rare to find

people who would do the "static & dynamic analysis " together !!!

My friends in the group are missing the principles of "desh, kaal, patra "

when they say.....white couple...dark children.....To elaborate for benefit

of others there is a school of thought in astros_northern India, - they do

not consider "Combustion of Mercury" for Mercury is always close to Sun or

for that matter Combustion of Saturn (!!)......they have their own

logics....believe or not to believe is left to ones prerogative.

Classics do mention debilitated planets in 11H give good

results....experiences or opinions or interpretations between astros may

differ. Perhaps the only house where exalted and debilitated planets all

give good results :) !!

_____

KNRaoJyotish [KNRaoJyotish] On

Behalf Of Vinay Kumar

Friday, July 21, 2006 10:41 PM

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[KNRaoJyotish] Anwer to Question 2 - Manjunath