Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Dear Dr. I do not understand why you have so much complex when u disscuss anything. One needs to keep a very open mind and rational attitude in an intellectual discussion, that too on Ayurveda, the understanding of which requires freedom from complexes. Your only interest seems to use words and terms which mock others. Otherwise what explains your calling " nonsense like Aryans migrating from North Pole" !! At the most u can say u dont find any rational basis so far to believe this. Then we will give u evidences so that we can make u find ratioanlity in this concept !! Your problem is that u misinterpret glorification of one section of human beings with running down of others. This is the main problem area. All races of the world are equally ancient and all have their science of medcine of herbs and other natural remedies. Not only the Chinese, the Incas, Mayans and many others have/had it. And as Nature is the same for all, u will find thousands of similarities. Moreover, each one of them has something which others might not have. However, Ayurveda and its amazingly magnificient detailing and scientific explanation of each and every aspect of nature, together with the process of creation is definitely the most comprehensive medical science. And undeniably this is a gift of the Indo-Aryan civilisation. And, Ayurveda or any other science of Indo - Aryans are NOT based on BELIEFS and conjectures. Its based on 'Darshan' of the Sage-scientists. Every point we raise has complete elaboration so that we check, cross-check and understand. I will reply to this mail of urs, point by point, later as at the time of writing this mail I dnt hv much time. However, I wish to make a few points. 1. The antiquity of the the Aryan civilisation will surprise all, if anybody cares to look into the literature. I will personally provide u with exact references and systems which prove this. I hope u know that we have a calandar which starts not with human beings but with the origin of the creative force called Brahma. WIl give u all the details. However, not only Aryans, but many other races are much older than what we think. 2. Shiva cutting the head of Brahma- Its not a physical incident. This is a symbol of a deep spiritual dynamics which I will explain. 3. I was aghast to read one of ur statements ( in ur mail to Dr. Phadke) which indicated that there can be things which do not 'Sattva' guna !!...... Forgive me, Dr. ur understanding of the 3 gunas is incomplete and most of the times wrong. I need to write a long mail to elaborate that. 4. The Indo-Aryans also have many big people who were/are completely or partially wrong. None is perfect. Thus, we have Charvaka who turns all Vedic wisdom upside down and Guru Nanak who is horribly wrong on the subject of veg and non-veg. His sayings on the subject have no scientific-spiritual basis. 5. Who is wrong and who is right ? For this there is a universal scale. We will talk about this also. 6. You say that the Chinese consider mushroom great and Ayurveda calls it not good. Whom shud we believe ? To get the answer we have to see the explanations put forward by both schools of thought. Phobias do not exist in the sciences of the Indo -Aryans. 7. In India, ever since the Mughal times....then the British period and then communists and people educated under Western system ..... spirituality & the Indo-Aryan sciences have been suppressed and bulldozed. Even with the use of physical force ( starting with the burning of Nalanda University library). Intellectuals and scholars who dont know English are mocked at. The non-English media is looked down upon. And the quality of people in the race have also fallen due to a plethora of other reasons ( our own mistakes) . ........... So, who is being oppressed ? And threatend ?.................. And who is communal ? The Indo-Aryans which accepts Jesus and Mohammad as greats ? Or the Arabs & Muslim countries where nothing of any other religion can be allowed to exist ? Or the Western scientists who cant accept that world existed even before the Biblical story of creation ? Or the Western Christian governments who are sending huge funds to Christian missionaries in India to create divisions in the society ? and to preach that there is none other than Jesus ?? Dr. even the today's degenarated society of India can teach anyone hundred lessons in communal harmony. At least not the USA which casts doubts on every single individual and takes their fingerprints !! The society which thinks of destroying others is ALWAYS THE MOST SCARED. How many saints can u quote from Islam or Christianity who talk about Ram & Krishna with equal reverence ?????? But I can give an unending list of "Hindu" saints and gurus who rever and worship Jesus and Mohammad. [ I have put "hindu" in inverted commas as personally I do not consider Hinduism. Islam & christainity different from each other. I have got this knowledge becasuse I am a ' fundamental-ist'. My heart throbs with love for Jesus & Mohammad as it does for Krishna. And 'religion' concept does not exist in Indo-Aryan civilisation. wait for my future mails, best regards, Yashendra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2006 Report Share Posted July 19, 2006 Yashendra I am a Sikh and would like you to explain this statement you made about Guru Nanak. I know of very few Hindu and Muslim saints. I do know that Baba Farid spoke equally of Hindus, Muslims and all religions. Thank you GB > 4. The Indo-Aryans also have many big people who were/are completely or partially wrong. None is perfect. > Thus, we have Charvaka who turns all Vedic wisdom upside down and Guru Nanak who is horribly wrong > on the subject of veg and non-veg. His sayings on the subject have no scientific-spiritual basis. > > How many saints can u quote from Islam or Christianity who talk about Ram & Krishna with equal reverence ?????? But I can give an unending list of "Hindu" saints and gurus who rever and worship Jesus and Mohammad. [ I have put "hindu" in inverted commas as personally I do not consider Hinduism. Islam & christainity different from each other. I have got this knowledge becasuse I am a ' fundamental-ist'. My heart throbs with love for Jesus & Mohammad as it does for Krishna. And 'religion' concept does not exist in Indo-Aryan civilisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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