accurate predictions [conundrum continues ...]

[Guest guest]

Mr. Chopra,

 

So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste time

(theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right? These

become moot points!

 

RR

 

 

, "Tarun Chopra"

<occultwizard.tarun wrote:

>

> Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to predict for

any one

> without any system if you able to listen the voice of your soul

>

> best wishes

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

> On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro wrote:

> >

> > Respected Gopal ji

> > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System of

prediction

> > there are other systems which give accurate results.If used in

proper way

> > we can better results.

> > Regards

> > Abhishek Dhawan

> >

> >

> >

> > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji <astrogopalji%40.co.in>> wrote:

> > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > <%

40>,

> > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Everyone

> > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the right

> > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique to study

the

> > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and anything can be

> > > answered accurately .

> > > Regards

> > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr.Chopra,

We are living in a world of mortals and majority of them are common folks.. How do we have access to listening to our inner soul when most of us are spending major part of our day in trying to make two ends meet ? And those whose stomaches are full ,how many of them have taken the path of spirituality to make them capable of listening to their inner voice ? See all this talking looks good but when it comes down to getting a stomache ache or back pain most of us would go to Doctors to get the right medicinces rather than listening to inner voice to guide us. Now You may argue that the inner voice must be telling You to go to the Doctor. In the same manner when people are facing problems in their lives for no apparent reasons they have to take access to Astrologers, prayers, visits to temples setc, to solve them. They dont have time or vitality in tough times to sit down and listen to inner voice.Any way arguments on this issue can go on and on with no useful end.

Regards,

Bhaskar.

 

Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun > wrote:

use your inner soul because who knows the system is right or not some time

it hapens the system which we have been using got to know that it was

wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

 

best wishes

 

Tarun Chopra

 

On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> Mr. Chopra,

>

> So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste time

> (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

> ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right? These

> become moot points!

>

> RR

>

> <%40>,

> "Tarun Chopra"

> <occultwizard.tarun wrote:

> >

> > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to predict for

> any one

> > without any system if you able to listen the voice of your soul

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> > Tarun Chopra

> >

> > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System of

> prediction

> > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If used in

> proper way

> > > we can better results.

> > > Regards

> > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji <astrogopalji%40.co.in>> wrote:

> > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > <%40>

> <%

> 40>,

> > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the right

> > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique to study

> the

> > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and anything can be

> > > > answered accurately .

> > > > Regards

> > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I am happy for you that you saw the light.

 

Best wishes,

 

RR

 

, "Tarun Chopra"

<occultwizard.tarun wrote:

>

> use your inner soul because who knows the system is right or not

some time

> it hapens the system which we have been using got to know that it

was

> wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

>

> best wishes

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

> On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Chopra,

> >

> > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste time

> > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

> > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right?

These

> > become moot points!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > "Tarun Chopra"

> > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to predict

for

> > any one

> > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of your soul

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > >

> > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System of

> > prediction

> > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If used in

> > proper way

> > > > we can better results.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>> wrote:

> > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > <%

40>

> > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the

right

> > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique to

study

> > the

> > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and anything

can be

> > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> > > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr. Maheswari,

 

What you state is very correct and accurately describes how many

people feel. Many get frustrated with the term, inner soul,

innersource and inner spirit, etc. Part of the reason is that it is

not clearly defined or demarcated and sometimes glibly utilized by

proponents (many of whom do not understand fully what they are

talking about, put bluntly!) as a cure-all. The other problem is that

most of us view spirit and spirituality as something 'separate' from

the rest of our human experience. Perhaps it is not. A lot of

disservice has been done to ourselves by this artificial segregation.

Inner spirit is certainly not something that is going to replace

doctors and medicines or surgery but even the most hard-nosed

scientists and doctors admit that without this inner will to live,

often all the chemicals and procedures prove to be simply a waste of

time, and money! This inherent will to live and to get better is a

palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit. Some may

call it the inner healer and go a bit overboard in singing its

praise. That said, in some rare individuals this will has been known

to make medical miracles happen as also in other aspects of life.

However, it is very variable and personal and most cannot rely upon

it all the time and must resort to easier paths, such as popping a

pill or taking an injection etc.

 

On a regular level, this inner spirit is capable of telling us the

right from wrong. We may call that function as conscience but

conscience is not localized in some area in brain or at least not

clearly defined so far. Conscience, morals, moral values, a calm

sense of wisdom are functions or attributes of this inner spirit or

inner voice (another name used by some).

 

One thing is certain! In most of us, this voice speaks very softly,

almost inaudible particularly in the din of the normal rat race of

worldly existence. Quiet but never completely quelled. It rises

dramatically -- particularly when we begin to pay attention to it,

and nurture it. It is a significant and important part of us and must

be respected and paid attention to.

 

RR

 

 

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Mr.Chopra,

> We are living in a world of mortals and majority of them are

common folks. How do we have access to listening to our inner soul

when most of us are spending major part of our day in trying to make

two ends meet ? And those whose stomaches are full ,how many of them

have taken the path of spirituality to make them capable of listening

to their inner voice ? See all this talking looks good but when it

comes down to getting a stomache ache or back pain most of us would

go to Doctors to get the right medicinces rather than listening to

inner voice to guide us. Now You may argue that the inner voice must

be telling You to go to the Doctor. In the same manner when people

are facing problems in their lives for no apparent reasons they have

to take access to Astrologers, prayers, visits to temples setc, to

solve them. They dont have time or vitality in tough times to sit

down and listen to inner voice.Any way arguments on this issue can go

on and on with no useful end.

> Regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun wrote:

> use your inner soul because who knows the system is right

or not some time

> it hapens the system which we have been using got to know that it

was

> wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

>

> best wishes

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

> On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Chopra,

> >

> > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste time

> > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

> > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right?

These

> > become moot points!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > "Tarun Chopra"

> > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to predict

for

> > any one

> > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of your soul

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > >

> > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System of

> > prediction

> > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If used in

> > proper way

> > > > we can better results.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>> wrote:

> > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > <%

40>

> > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the

right

> > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique to

study

> > the

> > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and anything

can be

> > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> > > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Sir,

I endorse Your views. And have personal experience whenever I have listened

to the inner voice and nurtured for some time it has shown the path , its

been easy to make a choice as the flash comes in the mind what has to

done. This inner voice is actually nothing but intuition which has to be developed. Like You said it speaks softly and is inaudible. more clear

to exalted souls living life morally & truthfully the way we are all supposed to.

I agree with You totally that its quite but never quelled if we dont listen

to it for a period of time, but also rises when we again look towards it for solace and answer. It definitely should be paid attention and respected..

But You see all this discussion has erupted only because the gentlemen

in question want to use the 'Ganga Jal " for all & sundry purposes

which of course is not possible to normal people, only to those who have access to Ganga water all the time. All are not so lucky.....................

Bhaskar.

crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Maheswari,

 

What you state is very correct and accurately describes how many

people feel. Many get frustrated with the term, inner soul,

innersource and inner spirit, etc. Part of the reason is that it is

not clearly defined or demarcated and sometimes glibly utilized by

proponents (many of whom do not understand fully what they are

talking about, put bluntly!) as a cure-all. The other problem is that

most of us view spirit and spirituality as something 'separate' from

the rest of our human experience. Perhaps it is not. A lot of

disservice has been done to ourselves by this artificial segregation.

Inner spirit is certainly not something that is going to replace

doctors and medicines or surgery but even the most hard-nosed

scientists and doctors admit that without this inner will to live,

often all the chemicals and procedures prove to be simply a waste of

time, and money! This inherent will to live and to get better is a

palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit. Some may

call it the inner healer and go a bit overboard in singing its

praise. That said, in some rare individuals this will has been known

to make medical miracles happen as also in other aspects of life.

However, it is very variable and personal and most cannot rely upon

it all the time and must resort to easier paths, such as popping a

pill or taking an injection etc.

 

On a regular level, this inner spirit is capable of telling us the

right from wrong. We may call that function as conscience but

conscience is not localized in some area in brain or at least not

clearly defined so far. Conscience, morals, moral values, a calm

sense of wisdom are functions or attributes of this inner spirit or

inner voice (another name used by some).

 

One thing is certain! In most of us, this voice speaks very softly,

almost inaudible particularly in the din of the normal rat race of

worldly existence. Quiet but never completely quelled. It rises

dramatically -- particularly when we begin to pay attention to it,

and nurture it. It is a significant and important part of us and must

be respected and paid attention to.

 

RR

 

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Mr.Chopra,

> We are living in a world of mortals and majority of them are

common folks. How do we have access to listening to our inner soul

when most of us are spending major part of our day in trying to make

two ends meet ? And those whose stomaches are full ,how many of them

have taken the path of spirituality to make them capable of listening

to their inner voice ? See all this talking looks good but when it

comes down to getting a stomache ache or back pain most of us would

go to Doctors to get the right medicinces rather than listening to

inner voice to guide us. Now You may argue that the inner voice must

be telling You to go to the Doctor. In the same manner when people

are facing problems in their lives for no apparent reasons they have

to take access to Astrologers, prayers, visits to temples setc, to

solve them. They dont have time or vitality in tough times to sit

down and listen to inner voice.Any way arguments on this issue can go

on and on with no useful end.

> Regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun wrote:

> use your inner soul because who knows the system is right

or not some time

> it hapens the system which we have been using got to know that it

was

> wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

>

> best wishes

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

> On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Chopra,

> >

> > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste time

> > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

> > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right?

These

> > become moot points!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > "Tarun Chopra"

> > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to predict

for

> > any one

> > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of your soul

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > >

> > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System of

> > prediction

> > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If used in

> > proper way

> > > > we can better results.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>> wrote:

> > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > <%

40>

> > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the

right

> > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique to

study

> > the

> > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and anything

can be

> > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> > > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Good day for all members!

 

Dear RR!

/This inherent will to live and to get better is a

palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit/

 

Do you really think that the life span depends on our inner will to

live?

 

Lyudmila

 

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Sir,

>

> I endorse Your views. And have personal experience whenever I

have listened

> to the inner voice and nurtured for some time it has shown the

path , its

> been easy to make a choice as the flash comes in the mind what

has to

> done. This inner voice is actually nothing but intuition which

has to be developed. Like You said it speaks softly and is inaudible.

more clear

> to exalted souls living life morally & truthfully the way we are

all supposed to.

> I agree with You totally that its quite but never quelled if we

dont listen

> to it for a period of time, but also rises when we again look

towards it for solace and answer. It definitely should be paid

attention and respected.

> But You see all this discussion has erupted only because the

gentlemen

> in question want to use the 'Ganga Jal " for all & sundry purposes

> which of course is not possible to normal people, only to those

who have access to Ganga water all the time. All are not so

lucky....................

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote:

> Dear Mr. Maheswari,

>

> What you state is very correct and accurately describes how many

> people feel. Many get frustrated with the term, inner soul,

> innersource and inner spirit, etc. Part of the reason is that it is

> not clearly defined or demarcated and sometimes glibly utilized by

> proponents (many of whom do not understand fully what they are

> talking about, put bluntly!) as a cure-all. The other problem is

that

> most of us view spirit and spirituality as something 'separate'

from

> the rest of our human experience. Perhaps it is not. A lot of

> disservice has been done to ourselves by this artificial

segregation.

> Inner spirit is certainly not something that is going to replace

> doctors and medicines or surgery but even the most hard-nosed

> scientists and doctors admit that without this inner will to live,

> often all the chemicals and procedures prove to be simply a waste

of

> time, and money! This inherent will to live and to get better is a

> palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit. Some

may

> call it the inner healer and go a bit overboard in singing its

> praise. That said, in some rare individuals this will has been

known

> to make medical miracles happen as also in other aspects of life.

> However, it is very variable and personal and most cannot rely upon

> it all the time and must resort to easier paths, such as popping a

> pill or taking an injection etc.

>

> On a regular level, this inner spirit is capable of telling us the

> right from wrong. We may call that function as conscience but

> conscience is not localized in some area in brain or at least not

> clearly defined so far. Conscience, morals, moral values, a calm

> sense of wisdom are functions or attributes of this inner spirit or

> inner voice (another name used by some).

>

> One thing is certain! In most of us, this voice speaks very softly,

> almost inaudible particularly in the din of the normal rat race of

> worldly existence. Quiet but never completely quelled. It rises

> dramatically -- particularly when we begin to pay attention to it,

> and nurture it. It is a significant and important part of us and

must

> be respected and paid attention to.

>

> RR

>

> , Bhaskar Maheswari

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Mr.Chopra,

> > We are living in a world of mortals and majority of them are

> common folks. How do we have access to listening to our inner soul

> when most of us are spending major part of our day in trying to

make

> two ends meet ? And those whose stomaches are full ,how many of

them

> have taken the path of spirituality to make them capable of

listening

> to their inner voice ? See all this talking looks good but when it

> comes down to getting a stomache ache or back pain most of us would

> go to Doctors to get the right medicinces rather than listening to

> inner voice to guide us. Now You may argue that the inner voice

must

> be telling You to go to the Doctor. In the same manner when people

> are facing problems in their lives for no apparent reasons they

have

> to take access to Astrologers, prayers, visits to temples setc, to

> solve them. They dont have time or vitality in tough times to sit

> down and listen to inner voice.Any way arguments on this issue can

go

> on and on with no useful end.

> > Regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > use your inner soul because who knows the system is right

> or not some time

> > it hapens the system which we have been using got to know that it

> was

> > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> > Tarun Chopra

> >

> > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr. Chopra,

> > >

> > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste time

> > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

> > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right?

> These

> > > become moot points!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > <%

> 40>,

> > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to predict

> for

> > > any one

> > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of your

soul

> > > >

> > > > best wishes

> > > >

> > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > >

> > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System of

> > > prediction

> > > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If used

in

> > > proper way

> > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>>

wrote:

> > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > <%

> 40>

> > > <%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the

> right

> > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique to

> study

> > > the

> > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and anything

> can be

> > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

>

[Guest guest]

Lyudmila_31,

 

Perhaps not if one focuses only on the segment quoted! Context is

everything -- in this case it was in the preceeding sentences.

 

RR

 

, "lyudmila_31"

<lyudmila_31 wrote:

>

> Good day for all members!

>

> Dear RR!

> /This inherent will to live and to get better is a

> palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit/

>

> Do you really think that the life span depends on our inner will to

> live?

>

> Lyudmila

>

> , Bhaskar Maheswari

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > I endorse Your views. And have personal experience whenever I

> have listened

> > to the inner voice and nurtured for some time it has shown the

> path , its

> > been easy to make a choice as the flash comes in the mind what

> has to

> > done. This inner voice is actually nothing but intuition which

> has to be developed. Like You said it speaks softly and is

inaudible.

> more clear

> > to exalted souls living life morally & truthfully the way we

are

> all supposed to.

> > I agree with You totally that its quite but never quelled if we

> dont listen

> > to it for a period of time, but also rises when we again look

> towards it for solace and answer. It definitely should be paid

> attention and respected.

> > But You see all this discussion has erupted only because the

> gentlemen

> > in question want to use the 'Ganga Jal " for all & sundry

purposes

> > which of course is not possible to normal people, only to those

> who have access to Ganga water all the time. All are not so

> lucky....................

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > Dear Mr. Maheswari,

> >

> > What you state is very correct and accurately describes how many

> > people feel. Many get frustrated with the term, inner soul,

> > innersource and inner spirit, etc. Part of the reason is that it

is

> > not clearly defined or demarcated and sometimes glibly utilized

by

> > proponents (many of whom do not understand fully what they are

> > talking about, put bluntly!) as a cure-all. The other problem is

> that

> > most of us view spirit and spirituality as something 'separate'

> from

> > the rest of our human experience. Perhaps it is not. A lot of

> > disservice has been done to ourselves by this artificial

> segregation.

> > Inner spirit is certainly not something that is going to replace

> > doctors and medicines or surgery but even the most hard-nosed

> > scientists and doctors admit that without this inner will to

live,

> > often all the chemicals and procedures prove to be simply a waste

> of

> > time, and money! This inherent will to live and to get better is

a

> > palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit. Some

> may

> > call it the inner healer and go a bit overboard in singing its

> > praise. That said, in some rare individuals this will has been

> known

> > to make medical miracles happen as also in other aspects of life.

> > However, it is very variable and personal and most cannot rely

upon

> > it all the time and must resort to easier paths, such as popping

a

> > pill or taking an injection etc.

> >

> > On a regular level, this inner spirit is capable of telling us

the

> > right from wrong. We may call that function as conscience but

> > conscience is not localized in some area in brain or at least not

> > clearly defined so far. Conscience, morals, moral values, a calm

> > sense of wisdom are functions or attributes of this inner spirit

or

> > inner voice (another name used by some).

> >

> > One thing is certain! In most of us, this voice speaks very

softly,

> > almost inaudible particularly in the din of the normal rat race

of

> > worldly existence. Quiet but never completely quelled. It rises

> > dramatically -- particularly when we begin to pay attention to

it,

> > and nurture it. It is a significant and important part of us and

> must

> > be respected and paid attention to.

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , Bhaskar Maheswari

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Mr.Chopra,

> > > We are living in a world of mortals and majority of them are

> > common folks. How do we have access to listening to our inner

soul

> > when most of us are spending major part of our day in trying to

> make

> > two ends meet ? And those whose stomaches are full ,how many of

> them

> > have taken the path of spirituality to make them capable of

> listening

> > to their inner voice ? See all this talking looks good but when

it

> > comes down to getting a stomache ache or back pain most of us

would

> > go to Doctors to get the right medicinces rather than listening

to

> > inner voice to guide us. Now You may argue that the inner voice

> must

> > be telling You to go to the Doctor. In the same manner when

people

> > are facing problems in their lives for no apparent reasons they

> have

> > to take access to Astrologers, prayers, visits to temples setc,

to

> > solve them. They dont have time or vitality in tough times to sit

> > down and listen to inner voice.Any way arguments on this issue

can

> go

> > on and on with no useful end.

> > > Regards,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > use your inner soul because who knows the system is right

> > or not some time

> > > it hapens the system which we have been using got to know that

it

> > was

> > > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > >

> > > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > >

> > > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste

time

> > > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

> > > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right?

> > These

> > > > become moot points!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to

predict

> > for

> > > > any one

> > > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of your

> soul

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > >

> > > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System

of

> > > > prediction

> > > > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If

used

> in

> > > > proper way

> > > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>>

> wrote:

> > > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > > <%

> > 40>

> > > > <%

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the

> > right

> > > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique

to

> > study

> > > > the

> > > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and

anything

> > can be

> > > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I've known someone, who without the date of birth, sometimes with

just a name or photograph has predicted with such accuracy thats

unnerving. What Arjun Ji calls Vaak Siddhi I guess sometimes is so

powerful that the person blessed with it needs no system, no

details.

 

 

, "Tarun Chopra"

<occultwizard.tarun wrote:

>

> use your inner soul because who knows the system is right or not

some time

> it hapens the system which we have been using got to know that it

was

> wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

>

> best wishes

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

> On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Chopra,

> >

> > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste time

> > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

> > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right?

These

> > become moot points!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > "Tarun Chopra"

> > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to predict

for

> > any one

> > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of your soul

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > >

> > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System of

> > prediction

> > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If used

in

> > proper way

> > > > we can better results.

> > > > Regards

> > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>>

wrote:

> > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > <%

40>

> > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the

right

> > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique to

study

> > the

> > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and anything

can be

> > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> > > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

ji,

 

Why are you lumping these psychic, elevated beings with practitioners

of astrology? I fail to see the mechanistic commonality between

astrology and siddhi?

 

RR

 

, ""

< wrote:

>

> I've known someone, who without the date of birth, sometimes with

> just a name or photograph has predicted with such accuracy thats

> unnerving. What Arjun Ji calls Vaak Siddhi I guess sometimes is so

> powerful that the person blessed with it needs no system, no

> details.

>

>

> , "Tarun Chopra"

> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> >

> > use your inner soul because who knows the system is right or not

> some time

> > it hapens the system which we have been using got to know that it

> was

> > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> > Tarun Chopra

> >

> > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr. Chopra,

> > >

> > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste time

> > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

> > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right?

> These

> > > become moot points!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > <%

> 40>,

> > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to predict

> for

> > > any one

> > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of your

soul

> > > >

> > > > best wishes

> > > >

> > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > >

> > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System of

> > > prediction

> > > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If used

> in

> > > proper way

> > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>>

> wrote:

> > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > <%

> 40>

> > > <%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the

> right

> > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique to

> study

> > > the

> > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and anything

> can be

> > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers

India.

> > > > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I endorse the views. You cannot put on common platform Yogis, or people with black tongue.and astrologers. Yogis know the best, they see where the jyotishi cannot reach. Black tongue people whatever they blurt wrong comes out true due to second house lord and bhava significator being strong and connections with tamasic planet, but astrologers work without any extra tools, just study they have done, and some intuition. They use this to forecast and helpthe people really. Yogis You please seperate they are not accessible to common people, Black tongued people can only use their tongue towards truth sometimes, not always, they dont have any tools for predictions, nor intuition.

nor analytical mechanism. Again vak siddhi people with Satvic influence and

aspect on their second bhave, You have to seperate. because they dont speak much.(Sadhus) so ultimately common man has access only to astrolgers.

People with siddhi are Yogis. How can anyone just meet them ?

So ji we have to be practical , only GP will help us in day to day medical problems. You dont go to specialist every time.

But I do agree with Your views and have met men like these often in my life.

Its nice to know that You did too.

Looking to hear innocent views from You again.

Bhaskar.

 

crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

ji,

 

Why are you lumping these psychic, elevated beings with practitioners

of astrology? I fail to see the mechanistic commonality between

astrology and siddhi?

 

RR

 

, ""

< wrote:

>

> I've known someone, who without the date of birth, sometimes with

> just a name or photograph has predicted with such accuracy thats

> unnerving. What Arjun Ji calls Vaak Siddhi I guess sometimes is so

> powerful that the person blessed with it needs no system, no

> details.

>

>

> , "Tarun Chopra"

> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> >

> > use your inner soul because who knows the system is right or not

> some time

> > it hapens the system which we have been using got to know that it

> was

> > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> > Tarun Chopra

> >

> > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr. Chopra,

> > >

> > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste time

> > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

> > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right?

> These

> > > become moot points!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > <%

> 40>,

> > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to predict

> for

> > > any one

> > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of your

soul

> > > >

> > > > best wishes

> > > >

> > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > >

> > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System of

> > > prediction

> > > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If used

> in

> > > proper way

> > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>>

> wrote:

> > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > <%

> 40>

> > > <%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the

> right

> > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique to

> study

> > > the

> > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and anything

> can be

> > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers

India.

> > > > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Yogis have black tongues? They must be eating too many blackberries

(jamun) perhaps?

 

RR

 

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> I endorse the views. You cannot put on common platform Yogis, or

people with black tongue.and astrologers. Yogis know the best, they

see where the jyotishi cannot reach. Black tongue people whatever

they blurt wrong comes out true due to second house lord and bhava

significator being strong and connections with tamasic planet, but

astrologers work without any extra tools, just study they have done,

and some intuition. They use this to forecast and helpthe people

really. Yogis You please seperate they are not accessible to common

people, Black tongued people can only use their tongue towards truth

sometimes, not always, they dont have any tools for predictions, nor

intuition.

> nor analytical mechanism. Again vak siddhi people with Satvic

influence and

> aspect on their second bhave, You have to seperate. because they

dont speak much.(Sadhus) so ultimately common man has access only to

astrolgers.

> People with siddhi are Yogis. How can anyone just meet them ?

> So ji we have to be practical , only GP will help us in day

to day medical problems. You dont go to specialist every time.

> But I do agree with Your views and have met men like these often

in my life.

> Its nice to know that You did too.

> Looking to hear innocent views from You again.

> Bhaskar.

>

> crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote:

> ji,

>

> Why are you lumping these psychic, elevated beings with

practitioners

> of astrology? I fail to see the mechanistic commonality between

> astrology and siddhi?

>

> RR

>

> , ""

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > I've known someone, who without the date of birth, sometimes with

> > just a name or photograph has predicted with such accuracy thats

> > unnerving. What Arjun Ji calls Vaak Siddhi I guess sometimes is

so

> > powerful that the person blessed with it needs no system, no

> > details.

> >

> >

> > , "Tarun Chopra"

> > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > >

> > > use your inner soul because who knows the system is right or

not

> > some time

> > > it hapens the system which we have been using got to know that

it

> > was

> > > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > >

> > > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > >

> > > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste

time

> > > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

> > > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right?

> > These

> > > > become moot points!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to

predict

> > for

> > > > any one

> > > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of your

> soul

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > >

> > > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System

of

> > > > prediction

> > > > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If

used

> > in

> > > > proper way

> > > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > > <%

> > 40>

> > > > <%

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the

> > right

> > > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique

to

> > study

> > > > the

> > > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and

anything

> > can be

> > > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers

> India.

> > > > > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Yogis dont have black tongues, You have misunderstood.Kaali jaban wale in English are known as black tongued people.Yogis are not to be talked about in a derogatory vein please note.

 

crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Yogis have black tongues? They must be eating too many blackberries

(jamun) perhaps?

 

RR

 

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> I endorse the views. You cannot put on common platform Yogis, or

people with black tongue.and astrologers. Yogis know the best, they

see where the jyotishi cannot reach. Black tongue people whatever

they blurt wrong comes out true due to second house lord and bhava

significator being strong and connections with tamasic planet, but

astrologers work without any extra tools, just study they have done,

and some intuition. They use this to forecast and helpthe people

really. Yogis You please seperate they are not accessible to common

people, Black tongued people can only use their tongue towards truth

sometimes, not always, they dont have any tools for predictions, nor

intuition.

> nor analytical mechanism. Again vak siddhi people with Satvic

influence and

> aspect on their second bhave, You have to seperate. because they

dont speak much.(Sadhus) so ultimately common man has access only to

astrolgers.

> People with siddhi are Yogis. How can anyone just meet them ?

> So ji we have to be practical , only GP will help us in day

to day medical problems. You dont go to specialist every time.

> But I do agree with Your views and have met men like these often

in my life.

> Its nice to know that You did too.

> Looking to hear innocent views from You again.

> Bhaskar.

>

> crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote:

> ji,

>

> Why are you lumping these psychic, elevated beings with

practitioners

> of astrology? I fail to see the mechanistic commonality between

> astrology and siddhi?

>

> RR

>

> , ""

> <@> wrote:

> >

> > I've known someone, who without the date of birth, sometimes with

> > just a name or photograph has predicted with such accuracy thats

> > unnerving. What Arjun Ji calls Vaak Siddhi I guess sometimes is

so

> > powerful that the person blessed with it needs no system, no

> > details.

> >

> >

> > , "Tarun Chopra"

> > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > >

> > > use your inner soul because who knows the system is right or

not

> > some time

> > > it hapens the system which we have been using got to know that

it

> > was

> > > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

> > >

> > > best wishes

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > >

> > > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > >

> > > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste

time

> > > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy of

> > > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other, right?

> > These

> > > > become moot points!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to

predict

> > for

> > > > any one

> > > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of your

> soul

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > >

> > > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari System

of

> > > > prediction

> > > > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If

used

> > in

> > > > proper way

> > > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > > <%

> > 40>

> > > > <%

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do the

> > right

> > > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive technique

to

> > study

> > > > the

> > > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and

anything

> > can be

> > > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers

> India.

> > > > > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

What happens if someone talks about yogis in a derogatory tone?

 

 

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Yogis dont have black tongues, You have misunderstood.Kaali jaban

wale in English are known as black tongued people.Yogis are not to be

talked about in a derogatory vein please note.

>

> crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: Yogis have black

tongues? They must be eating too many blackberries

> (jamun) perhaps?

>

> RR

>

> , Bhaskar Maheswari

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > I endorse the views. You cannot put on common platform Yogis, or

> people with black tongue.and astrologers. Yogis know the best, they

> see where the jyotishi cannot reach. Black tongue people whatever

> they blurt wrong comes out true due to second house lord and bhava

> significator being strong and connections with tamasic planet, but

> astrologers work without any extra tools, just study they have

done,

> and some intuition. They use this to forecast and helpthe people

> really. Yogis You please seperate they are not accessible to common

> people, Black tongued people can only use their tongue towards

truth

> sometimes, not always, they dont have any tools for predictions,

nor

> intuition.

> > nor analytical mechanism. Again vak siddhi people with Satvic

> influence and

> > aspect on their second bhave, You have to seperate. because they

> dont speak much.(Sadhus) so ultimately common man has access only

to

> astrolgers.

> > People with siddhi are Yogis. How can anyone just meet them ?

> > So ji we have to be practical , only GP will help us in day

> to day medical problems. You dont go to specialist every time.

> > But I do agree with Your views and have met men like these often

> in my life.

> > Its nice to know that You did too.

> > Looking to hear innocent views from You again.

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > ji,

> >

> > Why are you lumping these psychic, elevated beings with

> practitioners

> > of astrology? I fail to see the mechanistic commonality between

> > astrology and siddhi?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , ""

> > <@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I've known someone, who without the date of birth, sometimes

with

> > > just a name or photograph has predicted with such accuracy

thats

> > > unnerving. What Arjun Ji calls Vaak Siddhi I guess sometimes is

> so

> > > powerful that the person blessed with it needs no system, no

> > > details.

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Tarun Chopra"

> > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > use your inner soul because who knows the system is right or

> not

> > > some time

> > > > it hapens the system which we have been using got to know

that

> it

> > > was

> > > > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes

> > > >

> > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > >

> > > > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > > >

> > > > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste

> time

> > > > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy

of

> > > > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other,

right?

> > > These

> > > > > become moot points!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > <%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to

> predict

> > > for

> > > > > any one

> > > > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of

your

> > soul

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari

System

> of

> > > > > prediction

> > > > > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If

> used

> > > in

> > > > > proper way

> > > > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > > >

<%

> > > 40>

> > > > > <%

> > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do

the

> > > right

> > > > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive

technique

> to

> > > study

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and

> anything

> > > can be

> > > > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers

> > India.

> > > > > > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Whats the matter sir ?Why are we continuing discussion about meaningless issues ?

Anyway replying to Your question , Yogis ke baare me ulti baat karne se prakriti (nature) will take revenge, so beware.

 

crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

What happens if someone talks about yogis in a derogatory tone?

 

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Yogis dont have black tongues, You have misunderstood.Kaali jaban

wale in English are known as black tongued people.Yogis are not to be

talked about in a derogatory vein please note.

>

> crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: Yogis have black

tongues? They must be eating too many blackberries

> (jamun) perhaps?

>

> RR

>

> , Bhaskar Maheswari

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > I endorse the views. You cannot put on common platform Yogis, or

> people with black tongue.and astrologers. Yogis know the best, they

> see where the jyotishi cannot reach. Black tongue people whatever

> they blurt wrong comes out true due to second house lord and bhava

> significator being strong and connections with tamasic planet, but

> astrologers work without any extra tools, just study they have

done,

> and some intuition. They use this to forecast and helpthe people

> really. Yogis You please seperate they are not accessible to common

> people, Black tongued people can only use their tongue towards

truth

> sometimes, not always, they dont have any tools for predictions,

nor

> intuition.

> > nor analytical mechanism. Again vak siddhi people with Satvic

> influence and

> > aspect on their second bhave, You have to seperate. because they

> dont speak much.(Sadhus) so ultimately common man has access only

to

> astrolgers.

> > People with siddhi are Yogis. How can anyone just meet them ?

> > So ji we have to be practical , only GP will help us in day

> to day medical problems. You dont go to specialist every time.

> > But I do agree with Your views and have met men like these often

> in my life.

> > Its nice to know that You did too.

> > Looking to hear innocent views from You again.

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > ji,

> >

> > Why are you lumping these psychic, elevated beings with

> practitioners

> > of astrology? I fail to see the mechanistic commonality between

> > astrology and siddhi?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , ""

> > <@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I've known someone, who without the date of birth, sometimes

with

> > > just a name or photograph has predicted with such accuracy

thats

> > > unnerving. What Arjun Ji calls Vaak Siddhi I guess sometimes is

> so

> > > powerful that the person blessed with it needs no system, no

> > > details.

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Tarun Chopra"

> > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > use your inner soul because who knows the system is right or

> not

> > > some time

> > > > it hapens the system which we have been using got to know

that

> it

> > > was

> > > > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes

> > > >

> > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > >

> > > > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > > >

> > > > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste

> time

> > > > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy

of

> > > > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other,

right?

> > > These

> > > > > become moot points!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > <%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to

> predict

> > > for

> > > > > any one

> > > > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of

your

> > soul

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari

System

> of

> > > > > prediction

> > > > > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If

> used

> > > in

> > > > > proper way

> > > > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > > >

<%

> > > 40>

> > > > > <%

> > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do

the

> > > right

> > > > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive

technique

> to

> > > study

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and

> anything

> > > can be

> > > > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers

> > India.

> > > > > > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini!

Well, the person who is silent is more saint (sacred) than the other?

 

Lyudmila

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Lyudmila_31,

>

> Perhaps not if one focuses only on the segment quoted! Context is

> everything -- in this case it was in the preceeding sentences.

>

> RR

>

> , "lyudmila_31"

> <lyudmila_31@> wrote:

> >

> > Good day for all members!

> >

> > Dear RR!

> > /This inherent will to live and to get better is a

> > palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit/

> >

> > Do you really think that the life span depends on our inner will

to

> > live?

> >

> > Lyudmila

> >

> > , Bhaskar Maheswari

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Sir,

> > >

> > > I endorse Your views. And have personal experience whenever I

> > have listened

> > > to the inner voice and nurtured for some time it has shown

the

> > path , its

> > > been easy to make a choice as the flash comes in the mind

what

> > has to

> > > done. This inner voice is actually nothing but intuition

which

> > has to be developed. Like You said it speaks softly and is

> inaudible.

> > more clear

> > > to exalted souls living life morally & truthfully the way we

> are

> > all supposed to.

> > > I agree with You totally that its quite but never quelled if

we

> > dont listen

> > > to it for a period of time, but also rises when we again look

> > towards it for solace and answer. It definitely should be paid

> > attention and respected.

> > > But You see all this discussion has erupted only because the

> > gentlemen

> > > in question want to use the 'Ganga Jal " for all & sundry

> purposes

> > > which of course is not possible to normal people, only to

those

> > who have access to Ganga water all the time. All are not so

> > lucky....................

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > Dear Mr. Maheswari,

> > >

> > > What you state is very correct and accurately describes how

many

> > > people feel. Many get frustrated with the term, inner soul,

> > > innersource and inner spirit, etc. Part of the reason is that

it

> is

> > > not clearly defined or demarcated and sometimes glibly utilized

> by

> > > proponents (many of whom do not understand fully what they are

> > > talking about, put bluntly!) as a cure-all. The other problem

is

> > that

> > > most of us view spirit and spirituality as something 'separate'

> > from

> > > the rest of our human experience. Perhaps it is not. A lot of

> > > disservice has been done to ourselves by this artificial

> > segregation.

> > > Inner spirit is certainly not something that is going to

replace

> > > doctors and medicines or surgery but even the most hard-nosed

> > > scientists and doctors admit that without this inner will to

> live,

> > > often all the chemicals and procedures prove to be simply a

waste

> > of

> > > time, and money! This inherent will to live and to get better

is

> a

> > > palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit.

Some

> > may

> > > call it the inner healer and go a bit overboard in singing its

> > > praise. That said, in some rare individuals this will has been

> > known

> > > to make medical miracles happen as also in other aspects of

life.

> > > However, it is very variable and personal and most cannot rely

> upon

> > > it all the time and must resort to easier paths, such as

popping

> a

> > > pill or taking an injection etc.

> > >

> > > On a regular level, this inner spirit is capable of telling us

> the

> > > right from wrong. We may call that function as conscience but

> > > conscience is not localized in some area in brain or at least

not

> > > clearly defined so far. Conscience, morals, moral values, a

calm

> > > sense of wisdom are functions or attributes of this inner

spirit

> or

> > > inner voice (another name used by some).

> > >

> > > One thing is certain! In most of us, this voice speaks very

> softly,

> > > almost inaudible particularly in the din of the normal rat race

> of

> > > worldly existence. Quiet but never completely quelled. It rises

> > > dramatically -- particularly when we begin to pay attention to

> it,

> > > and nurture it. It is a significant and important part of us

and

> > must

> > > be respected and paid attention to.

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , Bhaskar Maheswari

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Mr.Chopra,

> > > > We are living in a world of mortals and majority of them are

> > > common folks. How do we have access to listening to our inner

> soul

> > > when most of us are spending major part of our day in trying to

> > make

> > > two ends meet ? And those whose stomaches are full ,how many of

> > them

> > > have taken the path of spirituality to make them capable of

> > listening

> > > to their inner voice ? See all this talking looks good but when

> it

> > > comes down to getting a stomache ache or back pain most of us

> would

> > > go to Doctors to get the right medicinces rather than listening

> to

> > > inner voice to guide us. Now You may argue that the inner voice

> > must

> > > be telling You to go to the Doctor. In the same manner when

> people

> > > are facing problems in their lives for no apparent reasons they

> > have

> > > to take access to Astrologers, prayers, visits to temples setc,

> to

> > > solve them. They dont have time or vitality in tough times to

sit

> > > down and listen to inner voice.Any way arguments on this issue

> can

> > go

> > > on and on with no useful end.

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > use your inner soul because who knows the system is right

> > > or not some time

> > > > it hapens the system which we have been using got to know

that

> it

> > > was

> > > > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner soul.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes

> > > >

> > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > >

> > > > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > > >

> > > > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not waste

> time

> > > > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the accuracy

of

> > > > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other,

right?

> > > These

> > > > > become moot points!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > <%

> > > 40>,

> > > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to

> predict

> > > for

> > > > > any one

> > > > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of

your

> > soul

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari

System

> of

> > > > > prediction

> > > > > > > there are other systems which give accurate results.If

> used

> > in

> > > > > proper way

> > > > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%40.co.in>>

> > wrote:

> > > > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > > >

<%

> > > 40>

> > > > > <%

> > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do

the

> > > right

> > > > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive

technique

> to

> > > study

> > > > > the

> > > > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and

> anything

> > > can be

> > > > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Lyudmila ji,

 

If only SAINTS came across as being more SANE, generally!

 

The question has been asked many times over the centuries if not

millennia!

 

"Enquiring minds want to know" as the tabloids in western grocery

stores ask, impudently!

 

What is the bottom-line in your personal and direct experience??

 

RR

 

 

, "lyudmila_31"

<lyudmila_31 wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini!

> Well, the person who is silent is more saint (sacred) than the

other?

>

> Lyudmila

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Lyudmila_31,

> >

> > Perhaps not if one focuses only on the segment quoted! Context is

> > everything -- in this case it was in the preceeding sentences.

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "lyudmila_31"

> > <lyudmila_31@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Good day for all members!

> > >

> > > Dear RR!

> > > /This inherent will to live and to get better is a

> > > palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit/

> > >

> > > Do you really think that the life span depends on our inner

will

> to

> > > live?

> > >

> > > Lyudmila

> > >

> > > , Bhaskar Maheswari

> > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Sir,

> > > >

> > > > I endorse Your views. And have personal experience whenever

I

> > > have listened

> > > > to the inner voice and nurtured for some time it has shown

> the

> > > path , its

> > > > been easy to make a choice as the flash comes in the mind

> what

> > > has to

> > > > done. This inner voice is actually nothing but intuition

> which

> > > has to be developed. Like You said it speaks softly and is

> > inaudible.

> > > more clear

> > > > to exalted souls living life morally & truthfully the way

we

> > are

> > > all supposed to.

> > > > I agree with You totally that its quite but never quelled

if

> we

> > > dont listen

> > > > to it for a period of time, but also rises when we again

look

> > > towards it for solace and answer. It definitely should be paid

> > > attention and respected.

> > > > But You see all this discussion has erupted only because

the

> > > gentlemen

> > > > in question want to use the 'Ganga Jal " for all & sundry

> > purposes

> > > > which of course is not possible to normal people, only to

> those

> > > who have access to Ganga water all the time. All are not so

> > > lucky....................

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > Dear Mr. Maheswari,

> > > >

> > > > What you state is very correct and accurately describes how

> many

> > > > people feel. Many get frustrated with the term, inner soul,

> > > > innersource and inner spirit, etc. Part of the reason is that

> it

> > is

> > > > not clearly defined or demarcated and sometimes glibly

utilized

> > by

> > > > proponents (many of whom do not understand fully what they

are

> > > > talking about, put bluntly!) as a cure-all. The other problem

> is

> > > that

> > > > most of us view spirit and spirituality as

something 'separate'

> > > from

> > > > the rest of our human experience. Perhaps it is not. A lot of

> > > > disservice has been done to ourselves by this artificial

> > > segregation.

> > > > Inner spirit is certainly not something that is going to

> replace

> > > > doctors and medicines or surgery but even the most hard-nosed

> > > > scientists and doctors admit that without this inner will to

> > live,

> > > > often all the chemicals and procedures prove to be simply a

> waste

> > > of

> > > > time, and money! This inherent will to live and to get better

> is

> > a

> > > > palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit.

> Some

> > > may

> > > > call it the inner healer and go a bit overboard in singing

its

> > > > praise. That said, in some rare individuals this will has

been

> > > known

> > > > to make medical miracles happen as also in other aspects of

> life.

> > > > However, it is very variable and personal and most cannot

rely

> > upon

> > > > it all the time and must resort to easier paths, such as

> popping

> > a

> > > > pill or taking an injection etc.

> > > >

> > > > On a regular level, this inner spirit is capable of telling

us

> > the

> > > > right from wrong. We may call that function as conscience but

> > > > conscience is not localized in some area in brain or at least

> not

> > > > clearly defined so far. Conscience, morals, moral values, a

> calm

> > > > sense of wisdom are functions or attributes of this inner

> spirit

> > or

> > > > inner voice (another name used by some).

> > > >

> > > > One thing is certain! In most of us, this voice speaks very

> > softly,

> > > > almost inaudible particularly in the din of the normal rat

race

> > of

> > > > worldly existence. Quiet but never completely quelled. It

rises

> > > > dramatically -- particularly when we begin to pay attention

to

> > it,

> > > > and nurture it. It is a significant and important part of us

> and

> > > must

> > > > be respected and paid attention to.

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , Bhaskar Maheswari

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Mr.Chopra,

> > > > > We are living in a world of mortals and majority of them

are

> > > > common folks. How do we have access to listening to our inner

> > soul

> > > > when most of us are spending major part of our day in trying

to

> > > make

> > > > two ends meet ? And those whose stomaches are full ,how many

of

> > > them

> > > > have taken the path of spirituality to make them capable of

> > > listening

> > > > to their inner voice ? See all this talking looks good but

when

> > it

> > > > comes down to getting a stomache ache or back pain most of us

> > would

> > > > go to Doctors to get the right medicinces rather than

listening

> > to

> > > > inner voice to guide us. Now You may argue that the inner

voice

> > > must

> > > > be telling You to go to the Doctor. In the same manner when

> > people

> > > > are facing problems in their lives for no apparent reasons

they

> > > have

> > > > to take access to Astrologers, prayers, visits to temples

setc,

> > to

> > > > solve them. They dont have time or vitality in tough times to

> sit

> > > > down and listen to inner voice.Any way arguments on this

issue

> > can

> > > go

> > > > on and on with no useful end.

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > > use your inner soul because who knows the system is right

> > > > or not some time

> > > > > it hapens the system which we have been using got to know

> that

> > it

> > > > was

> > > > > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner

soul.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > >

> > > > > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not

waste

> > time

> > > > > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the

accuracy

> of

> > > > > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other,

> right?

> > > > These

> > > > > > become moot points!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > <%

> > > > 40>,

> > > > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to

> > predict

> > > > for

> > > > > > any one

> > > > > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of

> your

> > > soul

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari

> System

> > of

> > > > > > prediction

> > > > > > > > there are other systems which give accurate

results.If

> > used

> > > in

> > > > > > proper way

> > > > > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%

40.co.in>>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > > > >

> <%

> > > > 40>

> > > > > > <%

> > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u do

> the

> > > > right

> > > > > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive

> technique

> > to

> > > > study

> > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and

> > anything

> > > > can be

> > > > > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rohini!

If you take the soul - where could you define, place - the bottom?

The roots are in your ethreal body when you are only a light in the

space and in the ethereal bodies of your parents.

But this roots are not only in the lower part of your energetical

structure as copied by physical body.

I have seen many secrets of Gods, but still my soul is not silent...

 

Lyudmila

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Lyudmila ji,

>

> If only SAINTS came across as being more SANE, generally!

>

> The question has been asked many times over the centuries if not

> millennia!

>

> "Enquiring minds want to know" as the tabloids in western grocery

> stores ask, impudently!

>

> What is the bottom-line in your personal and direct experience??

>

> RR

>

>

> , "lyudmila_31"

> <lyudmila_31@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini!

> > Well, the person who is silent is more saint (sacred) than the

> other?

> >

> > Lyudmila

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Lyudmila_31,

> > >

> > > Perhaps not if one focuses only on the segment quoted! Context

is

> > > everything -- in this case it was in the preceeding sentences.

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "lyudmila_31"

> > > <lyudmila_31@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Good day for all members!

> > > >

> > > > Dear RR!

> > > > /This inherent will to live and to get better is a

> > > > palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit/

> > > >

> > > > Do you really think that the life span depends on our inner

> will

> > to

> > > > live?

> > > >

> > > > Lyudmila

> > > >

> > > > , Bhaskar Maheswari

> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Sir,

> > > > >

> > > > > I endorse Your views. And have personal experience

whenever

> I

> > > > have listened

> > > > > to the inner voice and nurtured for some time it has

shown

> > the

> > > > path , its

> > > > > been easy to make a choice as the flash comes in the mind

> > what

> > > > has to

> > > > > done. This inner voice is actually nothing but intuition

> > which

> > > > has to be developed. Like You said it speaks softly and is

> > > inaudible.

> > > > more clear

> > > > > to exalted souls living life morally & truthfully the way

> we

> > > are

> > > > all supposed to.

> > > > > I agree with You totally that its quite but never quelled

> if

> > we

> > > > dont listen

> > > > > to it for a period of time, but also rises when we again

> look

> > > > towards it for solace and answer. It definitely should be

paid

> > > > attention and respected.

> > > > > But You see all this discussion has erupted only because

> the

> > > > gentlemen

> > > > > in question want to use the 'Ganga Jal " for all & sundry

> > > purposes

> > > > > which of course is not possible to normal people, only to

> > those

> > > > who have access to Ganga water all the time. All are not so

> > > > lucky....................

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Mr. Maheswari,

> > > > >

> > > > > What you state is very correct and accurately describes how

> > many

> > > > > people feel. Many get frustrated with the term, inner soul,

> > > > > innersource and inner spirit, etc. Part of the reason is

that

> > it

> > > is

> > > > > not clearly defined or demarcated and sometimes glibly

> utilized

> > > by

> > > > > proponents (many of whom do not understand fully what they

> are

> > > > > talking about, put bluntly!) as a cure-all. The other

problem

> > is

> > > > that

> > > > > most of us view spirit and spirituality as

> something 'separate'

> > > > from

> > > > > the rest of our human experience. Perhaps it is not. A lot

of

> > > > > disservice has been done to ourselves by this artificial

> > > > segregation.

> > > > > Inner spirit is certainly not something that is going to

> > replace

> > > > > doctors and medicines or surgery but even the most hard-

nosed

> > > > > scientists and doctors admit that without this inner will

to

> > > live,

> > > > > often all the chemicals and procedures prove to be simply a

> > waste

> > > > of

> > > > > time, and money! This inherent will to live and to get

better

> > is

> > > a

> > > > > palpable manifestation and expression of this inner spirit.

> > Some

> > > > may

> > > > > call it the inner healer and go a bit overboard in singing

> its

> > > > > praise. That said, in some rare individuals this will has

> been

> > > > known

> > > > > to make medical miracles happen as also in other aspects of

> > life.

> > > > > However, it is very variable and personal and most cannot

> rely

> > > upon

> > > > > it all the time and must resort to easier paths, such as

> > popping

> > > a

> > > > > pill or taking an injection etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > On a regular level, this inner spirit is capable of telling

> us

> > > the

> > > > > right from wrong. We may call that function as conscience

but

> > > > > conscience is not localized in some area in brain or at

least

> > not

> > > > > clearly defined so far. Conscience, morals, moral values, a

> > calm

> > > > > sense of wisdom are functions or attributes of this inner

> > spirit

> > > or

> > > > > inner voice (another name used by some).

> > > > >

> > > > > One thing is certain! In most of us, this voice speaks very

> > > softly,

> > > > > almost inaudible particularly in the din of the normal rat

> race

> > > of

> > > > > worldly existence. Quiet but never completely quelled. It

> rises

> > > > > dramatically -- particularly when we begin to pay attention

> to

> > > it,

> > > > > and nurture it. It is a significant and important part of

us

> > and

> > > > must

> > > > > be respected and paid attention to.

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , Bhaskar Maheswari

> > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Mr.Chopra,

> > > > > > We are living in a world of mortals and majority of them

> are

> > > > > common folks. How do we have access to listening to our

inner

> > > soul

> > > > > when most of us are spending major part of our day in

trying

> to

> > > > make

> > > > > two ends meet ? And those whose stomaches are full ,how

many

> of

> > > > them

> > > > > have taken the path of spirituality to make them capable of

> > > > listening

> > > > > to their inner voice ? See all this talking looks good but

> when

> > > it

> > > > > comes down to getting a stomache ache or back pain most of

us

> > > would

> > > > > go to Doctors to get the right medicinces rather than

> listening

> > > to

> > > > > inner voice to guide us. Now You may argue that the inner

> voice

> > > > must

> > > > > be telling You to go to the Doctor. In the same manner when

> > > people

> > > > > are facing problems in their lives for no apparent reasons

> they

> > > > have

> > > > > to take access to Astrologers, prayers, visits to temples

> setc,

> > > to

> > > > > solve them. They dont have time or vitality in tough times

to

> > sit

> > > > > down and listen to inner voice.Any way arguments on this

> issue

> > > can

> > > > go

> > > > > on and on with no useful end.

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tarun Chopra <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > > > use your inner soul because who knows the system is right

> > > > > or not some time

> > > > > > it hapens the system which we have been using got to know

> > that

> > > it

> > > > > was

> > > > > > wrong. then there is only one way left trust your inner

> soul.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > >

> > > > > > On 7/15/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > So in light of this viewpoint of yours, one must not

> waste

> > > time

> > > > > > > (theirs and other people's) is trying to push the

> accuracy

> > of

> > > > > > > ayanamsha, or this technique or system over the other,

> > right?

> > > > > These

> > > > > > > become moot points!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > RR

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

<%

> > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Try to listen the voice of your soul you will able to

> > > predict

> > > > > for

> > > > > > > any one

> > > > > > > > without any system if you able to listen the voice of

> > your

> > > > soul

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > best wishes

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > On 7/15/06, abhishek dhawan <sure_astro@> wrote:

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Respected Gopal ji

> > > > > > > > > What i tryiong to tell is that apart from Prashari

> > System

> > > of

> > > > > > > prediction

> > > > > > > > > there are other systems which give accurate

> results.If

> > > used

> > > > in

> > > > > > > proper way

> > > > > > > > > we can better results.

> > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji@ <astrogopalji%

> 40.co.in>>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > what 're u trying to tell Abhishek

> > > > > > > > >

> > <%

> > > > > 40>

> > > > > > > <%

> > > > > > > 40>,

> > > > > > > > > "sure_astro" <sure_astro@>

> > > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone

> > > > > > > > > > It is possible to give accurate predictions if u

do

> > the

> > > > > right

> > > > > > > > > > calculations and use the accurate predictive

> > technique

> > > to

> > > > > study

> > > > > > > the

> > > > > > > > > > horoscope . No asnwere will be hidden from u and

> > > anything

> > > > > can be

> > > > > > > > > > answered accurately .

> > > > > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > > > > > Abhishek Dhawan

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>