Debilitated Jupiter in Capricorn Lagna, Mars exalted- Multiple Sclerosis

July 14, 2006

I am seeking support from all and sundry here who are into astro-

healing or having in-depth knowledge of astrology to analyse my chart.

Date of Birth: March 19, 1973

Place: Bali (Pali) Rajasthan

Time: 4:03 PM

Having discussed with some astrolgers and digging myself into it, I

am not getting to understand the reason which could multiple

sclerosis to me, wether it is actually that or not and how is my

health patterns in future. When are the relapses likely to happen and

affecting which part of the body?

Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have gathered:

1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to cause

difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

diseases. But when do these placements affect?

2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen perhaps

so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years when MS

suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

should not be strengthned

3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health during

that period?

4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where does

this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its nothing to

do with Ketu or Mercury?

5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has some one

asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY & VENUS

NO FREINDS?? Is this association doing something to nerves. It is

autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from where

immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

damage. So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents white

substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to protect

them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus through

stone or something????

7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

getting affected....

8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then?? What

havoc would it play??

9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being in the

3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is there

then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of 7th

house. A MARAKA again

11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says that

automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with Jupiter

antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of fear?????????

Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

nature?????????

How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should be

looked in for Health and Life??Through the above-mentioned dashas how

is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

friends on this group who could advise.

Best Regards

Prasann

July 15, 2006

Dear Prannmann,

I was interested in Your horoscope as I too have Rahu in 12th and Ketu in 6th in my horoscope. But when I cast Your chart I did not get the details that You have mentioned ? It showed Leo ascendant and Rahu in 5th. Have I made a mistake or are Your birth details given wrong ? Re check please and also give latitude and Longitude of Your place and the nearest station.

Bhaskar.

prasannman <prasannman > wrote:

I am seeking support from all and sundry here who are into astro-

healing or having in-depth knowledge of astrology to analyse my chart.

Date of Birth: March 19, 1973

Place: Bali (Pali) Rajasthan

Time: 4:03 PM

Having discussed with some astrolgers and digging myself into it, I

am not getting to understand the reason which could multiple

sclerosis to me, wether it is actually that or not and how is my

health patterns in future. When are the relapses likely to happen and

affecting which part of the body?

Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have gathered:

1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to cause

difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

diseases. But when do these placements affect?

2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen perhaps

so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years when MS

suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

should not be strengthned

3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health during

that period?

4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where does

this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its nothing to

do with Ketu or Mercury?

5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has some one

asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY & VENUS

NO FREINDS?? Is this association doing something to nerves. It is

autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from where

immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

damage. So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents white

substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to protect

them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus through

stone or something????

7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

getting affected....

8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then?? What

havoc would it play??

9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being in the

3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is there

then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of 7th

house. A MARAKA again

11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says that

automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with Jupiter

antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of fear?????????

Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

nature?????????

How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should be

looked in for Health and Life??Through the above-mentioned dashas how

is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

friends on this group who could advise.

Best Regards

Prasann

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July 15, 2006

Thanx Bhaskar. Pls note it is 4:03 AM not PM please

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Prannmann,

> I was interested in Your horoscope as I too have Rahu in 12th and

Ketu in 6th in my horoscope. But when I cast Your chart I did not get

the details that You have mentioned ? It showed Leo ascendant and

Rahu in 5th. Have I made a mistake or are Your birth details given

wrong ? Re check please and also give latitude and Longitude of Your

place and the nearest station.

> Bhaskar.

>

> prasannman <prasannman wrote:

> I am seeking support from all and sundry here who are

into astro-

> healing or having in-depth knowledge of astrology to analyse my

chart.

>

> Date of Birth: March 19, 1973

> Place: Bali (Pali) Rajasthan

> Time: 4:03 PM

>

> Having discussed with some astrolgers and digging myself into it, I

> am not getting to understand the reason which could multiple

> sclerosis to me, wether it is actually that or not and how is my

> health patterns in future. When are the relapses likely to happen

and

> affecting which part of the body?

>

> Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have gathered:

>

> 1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to cause

> difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

> diseases. But when do these placements affect?

>

> 2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen perhaps

> so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years when

MS

> suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

> should not be strengthned

>

> 3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health

during

> that period?

>

> 4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where does

> this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its nothing

to

> do with Ketu or Mercury?

>

> 5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has some

one

> asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

>

> 6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY & VENUS

> NO FREINDS?? Is this association doing something to nerves. It is

> autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from where

> immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

> damage. So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents white

> substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to protect

> them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus through

> stone or something????

>

> 7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

> sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

> getting affected....

>

> 8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then?? What

> havoc would it play??

>

> 9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being in

the

> 3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is there

> then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

>

> 10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of 7th

> house. A MARAKA again

>

> 11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

>

> 12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

> blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says that

> automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with

Jupiter

> antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of fear?????????

> Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

> nature?????????

>

> How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should be

> looked in for Health and Life??Through the above-mentioned dashas

how

> is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

> friends on this group who could advise.

>

> Best Regards

> Prasann

>

> Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

>

July 16, 2006

Pl.give latitude and long. of Ur place.

prasannman <prasannman > wrote: Thanx Bhaskar. Pls note it is 4:03 AM not PM please

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Prannmann,

> I was interested in Your horoscope as I too have Rahu in 12th and

Ketu in 6th in my horoscope. But when I cast Your chart I did not get

the details that You have mentioned ? It showed Leo ascendant and

Rahu in 5th. Have I made a mistake or are Your birth details given

wrong ? Re check please and also give latitude and Longitude of Your

place and the nearest station.

> Bhaskar.

>

> prasannman <prasannman wrote:

> I am seeking support from all and sundry here who are

into astro-

> healing or having in-depth knowledge of astrology to analyse my

chart.

>

> Date of Birth: March 19, 1973

> Place: Bali (Pali) Rajasthan

> Time: 4:03 PM

>

> Having discussed with some astrolgers and digging myself into it, I

> am not getting to understand the reason which could multiple

> sclerosis to me, wether it is actually that or not and how is my

> health patterns in future. When are the relapses likely to happen

and

> affecting which part of the body?

>

> Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have gathered:

>

> 1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to cause

> difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

> diseases. But when do these placements affect?

>

> 2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen perhaps

> so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years when

MS

> suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

> should not be strengthned

>

> 3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health

during

> that period?

>

> 4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where does

> this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its nothing

to

> do with Ketu or Mercury?

>

> 5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has some

one

> asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

>

> 6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY & VENUS

> NO FREINDS?? Is this association doing something to nerves. It is

> autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from where

> immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

> damage. So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents white

> substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to protect

> them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus through

> stone or something????

>

> 7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

> sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

> getting affected....

>

> 8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then?? What

> havoc would it play??

>

> 9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being in

the

> 3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is there

> then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

>

> 10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of 7th

> house. A MARAKA again

>

> 11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

>

> 12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

> blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says that

> automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with

Jupiter

> antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of fear?????????

> Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

> nature?????????

>

> How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should be

> looked in for Health and Life??Through the above-mentioned dashas

how

> is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

> friends on this group who could advise.

>

> Best Regards

> Prasann

>

> Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

>

July 16, 2006

Pl.give latitude and long. of Ur place.

prasannman <prasannman > wrote: Thanx Bhaskar. Pls note it is 4:03 AM not PM please

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Prannmann,

> I was interested in Your horoscope as I too have Rahu in 12th and

Ketu in 6th in my horoscope. But when I cast Your chart I did not get

the details that You have mentioned ? It showed Leo ascendant and

Rahu in 5th. Have I made a mistake or are Your birth details given

wrong ? Re check please and also give latitude and Longitude of Your

place and the nearest station.

> Bhaskar.

>

> prasannman <prasannman wrote:

> I am seeking support from all and sundry here who are

into astro-

> healing or having in-depth knowledge of astrology to analyse my

chart.

>

> Date of Birth: March 19, 1973

> Place: Bali (Pali) Rajasthan

> Time: 4:03 PM

>

> Having discussed with some astrolgers and digging myself into it, I

> am not getting to understand the reason which could multiple

> sclerosis to me, wether it is actually that or not and how is my

> health patterns in future. When are the relapses likely to happen

and

> affecting which part of the body?

>

> Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have gathered:

>

> 1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to cause

> difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

> diseases. But when do these placements affect?

>

> 2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen perhaps

> so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years when

MS

> suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

> should not be strengthned

>

> 3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health

during

> that period?

>

> 4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where does

> this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its nothing

to

> do with Ketu or Mercury?

>

> 5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has some

one

> asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

>

> 6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY & VENUS

> NO FREINDS?? Is this association doing something to nerves. It is

> autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from where

> immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

> damage. So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents white

> substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to protect

> them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus through

> stone or something????

>

> 7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

> sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

> getting affected....

>

> 8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then?? What

> havoc would it play??

>

> 9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being in

the

> 3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is there

> then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

>

> 10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of 7th

> house. A MARAKA again

>

> 11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

>

> 12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

> blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says that

> automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with

Jupiter

> antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of fear?????????

> Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

> nature?????????

>

> How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should be

> looked in for Health and Life??Through the above-mentioned dashas

how

> is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

> friends on this group who could advise.

>

> Best Regards

> Prasann

>

> Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

>

July 16, 2006

Pl.give latitude and long. of Ur place.

prasannman <prasannman > wrote: Thanx Bhaskar. Pls note it is 4:03 AM not PM please

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear Prannmann,

> I was interested in Your horoscope as I too have Rahu in 12th and

Ketu in 6th in my horoscope. But when I cast Your chart I did not get

the details that You have mentioned ? It showed Leo ascendant and

Rahu in 5th. Have I made a mistake or are Your birth details given

wrong ? Re check please and also give latitude and Longitude of Your

place and the nearest station.

> Bhaskar.

>

> prasannman <prasannman wrote:

> I am seeking support from all and sundry here who are

into astro-

> healing or having in-depth knowledge of astrology to analyse my

chart.

>

> Date of Birth: March 19, 1973

> Place: Bali (Pali) Rajasthan

> Time: 4:03 PM

>

> Having discussed with some astrolgers and digging myself into it, I

> am not getting to understand the reason which could multiple

> sclerosis to me, wether it is actually that or not and how is my

> health patterns in future. When are the relapses likely to happen

and

> affecting which part of the body?

>

> Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have gathered:

>

> 1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to cause

> difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

> diseases. But when do these placements affect?

>

> 2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen perhaps

> so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years when

MS

> suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

> should not be strengthned

>

> 3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health

during

> that period?

>

> 4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where does

> this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its nothing

to

> do with Ketu or Mercury?

>

> 5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has some

one

> asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

>

> 6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY & VENUS

> NO FREINDS?? Is this association doing something to nerves. It is

> autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from where

> immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

> damage. So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents white

> substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to protect

> them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus through

> stone or something????

>

> 7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

> sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

> getting affected....

>

> 8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then?? What

> havoc would it play??

>

> 9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being in

the

> 3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is there

> then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

>

> 10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of 7th

> house. A MARAKA again

>

> 11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

>

> 12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

> blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says that

> automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with

Jupiter

> antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of fear?????????

> Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

> nature?????????

>

> How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should be

> looked in for Health and Life??Through the above-mentioned dashas

how

> is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

> friends on this group who could advise.

>

> Best Regards

> Prasann

>

> Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

>

July 16, 2006

Namskar

i have tried to answer you questio with my limited knowledge. i am

not regular writer to this group but i pick you mail to answer.hope

this will help you.

Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have gathered:

1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to cause

difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

diseases. But when do these placements affect?

Ans in Rahu-mars period or ending dasa of Rahu.

2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen perhaps

so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years when

MS suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

should not be strengthned

Ans : Stone wearing is not always help t o stengthed the planet you

can wear stone to reduce the ill effect also by wearing it in left

hand.

3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health

during that period?

Ans jupiter is dispositorfor rahu which is functional malefic for

makkra lagna I,e Jupiter and the venus is lording your 5th and

10th . And aruda of 6th ,8th house along with gulika and mandi are

placed in libra and more the venus is in the nakshtra of Jupiter

which is in lagna. And venus is you Atmakrka too and the lord of

second from AL placed 6th from Al.

4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where does

this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its nothing

to do with Ketu or Mercury?

Ans :- Venus joined mercury which is 6th lord and venus is aruda

lord of 6th and 8th house as these are placed in libra in 10th

hoouse.

5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has some

one asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

Ans :-Venus is not marka where as it is yogkarka and Atmakarka you

should recite Joytirlinga mantra to come out of it.

6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY & VENUS

NO FREINDS?? Is this association doing something to nerves. It is

autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from where

immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

damage. So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents white

substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to protect

them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus through

stone or something????

Ans:- this is second house of natural zodic .Venus is lord of second

from AL and placed 6th from al so have power to create problem you

can over power it by pooja of you ishta devta being AK.

7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

getting affected....

Ans : yes you have to take care till Nov 2007.

8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then?? What

havoc would it play??

As far shaditsati in concerned that the Satrun is conritubting very

less or no point in astakvarga to leo but it is not bad transiting

to 12th from your moon infact it is also transiting 12th from you AL

which is bad.

9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being in

the 3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is

there

then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

Ans :- See at end the ans 9,10,11

10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of 7th

house. A MARAKA again

11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says that

automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with

Jupiter antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of

fear?????????

Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

nature?????????

Ans : in regard to you question 10,11,12 would like to say you that

you have to take care before Jupiter dasa starting as the Jupiter

and rahu 2/12 this will create problem and you will see the effect

of rahu being in saggi and Jupiter being in lagna along with mars

which is co-badha lord varggotma not easy to abolish with remedy.

How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should be

looked in for Health and Life??Through the above-mentioned dashas

how

is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

friends on this group who could advise.

Best Regards

Prasann

, Bhaskar Maheswari

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Pl.give latitude and long. of Ur place.

>

> prasannman <prasannman wrote: Thanx Bhaskar. Pls

note it is 4:03 AM not PM please

>

> , Bhaskar Maheswari

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prannmann,

> > I was interested in Your horoscope as I too have Rahu in 12th

and

> Ketu in 6th in my horoscope. But when I cast Your chart I did not

get

> the details that You have mentioned ? It showed Leo ascendant and

> Rahu in 5th. Have I made a mistake or are Your birth details given

> wrong ? Re check please and also give latitude and Longitude of

Your

> place and the nearest station.

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > prasannman <prasannman@> wrote:

> > I am seeking support from all and sundry here who are

> into astro-

> > healing or having in-depth knowledge of astrology to analyse my

> chart.

> >

> > Date of Birth: March 19, 1973

> > Place: Bali (Pali) Rajasthan

> > Time: 4:03 PM

> >

> > Having discussed with some astrolgers and digging myself into

it, I

> > am not getting to understand the reason which could multiple

> > sclerosis to me, wether it is actually that or not and how is my

> > health patterns in future. When are the relapses likely to

happen

> and

> > affecting which part of the body?

> >

> > Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have

gathered:

> >

> > 1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to

cause

> > difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

> > diseases. But when do these placements affect?

> >

> > 2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen

perhaps

> > so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years

when

> MS

> > suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

> > should not be strengthned

> >

> > 3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health

> during

> > that period?

> >

> > 4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where

does

> > this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its

nothing

> to

> > do with Ketu or Mercury?

> >

> > 5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has

some

> one

> > asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

> >

> > 6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY &

VENUS

> > NO FREINDS?? Is this association doing something to nerves. It

is

> > autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from

where

> > immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

> > damage. So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents

white

> > substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to

protect

> > them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus

through

> > stone or something????

> >

> > 7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

> > sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

> > getting affected....

> >

> > 8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then?? What

> > havoc would it play??

> >

> > 9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being in

> the

> > 3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is

there

> > then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

> >

> > 10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of

7th

> > house. A MARAKA again

> >

> > 11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

> >

> > 12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

> > blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says

that

> > automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with

> Jupiter

> > antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of fear?????????

> > Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

> > nature?????????

> >

> > How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should

be

> > looked in for Health and Life??Through the above-mentioned

dashas

> how

> > is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

> > friends on this group who could advise.

> >

> > Best Regards

> > Prasann

> >

> > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> >

July 17, 2006

Thanks a lot for your answers. May I please ask you to simplify it a

bit. I am a layman as regards astrology goes. I am rewriting where I

did not follow. Please forgive my endless questions.

, "Amit" <amitpuri20

wrote:

>

> Namskar

>

> i have tried to answer you questio with my limited knowledge. i am

> not regular writer to this group but i pick you mail to answer.hope

> this will help you.

>

> Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have

gathered:

>

> 1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to cause

> difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

> diseases. But when do these placements affect?

>

> Ans in Rahu-mars period or ending dasa of Rahu.

But I have my Multiple sclerosis attack in Rahu-Venus period. You

mean I expect something more scary in Rahu-Mars period and then sade

sati would also be on then. Isn't Mars supposed to be a benefic for

me being exalted in Lagna.

What would you advise for this period?

>

> 2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen perhaps

> so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years when

> MS suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

> should not be strengthned

> >

> Ans : Stone wearing is not always help t o stengthed the planet you

> can wear stone to reduce the ill effect also by wearing it in left

> hand.

I was given a gomed pendant at the start of my Rahu MD. Which I took

off after couple of years and wore again after my 1st attack of MS

(multiple sclerosis). But was advise to replace it with shukra

pendant instead as Rahu-Venus period is going on.

>

> 3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health

> during that period?

>

> Ans jupiter is dispositor for rahu which is functional malefic for

> makkra lagna I,e Jupiter and the venus is lording your 5th and

> 10th . And aruda of 6th ,8th house along with gulika and mandi

are placed in libra and more the venus is in the nakshtra of Jupiter

> which is in lagna. And venus is you Atmakrka too and the lord of

> second from AL placed 6th from Al.

Isn't Jupiter the lord of 3rd and 12th house and only Venus the lord

of 5th and 10th house????????????? I did not get this one at all. AL

is ascendant lagna? What is aruda and gulika mandi...Could you

elaborate this one....

>

> 4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where does

> this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its nothing

> to do with Ketu or Mercury?

>

> Ans :- Venus joined mercury which is 6th lord and venus is aruda

> lord of 6th and 8th house as these are placed in libra in 10th

> hoouse.

Aruda Lord??? What is placed in 10th house. It is vacant!!

>

> 5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has some

> one asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

> >

> Ans :-Venus is not marka where as it is yogkarka and Atmakarka you

> should recite Joytirlinga mantra to come out of it.

Could you please tell me the mantra and to come out of what???

Multiple sclerosis and its attacks?

>

> 6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY & VENUS

> NO FREINDS?? Is this association doing something to nerves. It is

> autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from where

> immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

> damage. So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents white

> substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to protect

> them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus through

> stone or something????

>

> Ans:- this is second house of natural zodic .Venus is lord of

second

> from AL and placed 6th from al so have power to create problem you

> can over power it by pooja of you ishta devta being AK.

Are you talking about Mercury or Venus? AK?? Ketu is in 6H?? Which

other thing are you talking about

>

> 7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

> sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

> getting affected....

>

> Ans : yes you have to take care till Nov 2007.

So you think Shukra stone would help for this. But Rahu-Venus is

getting over in May. So why November 2007? And post that Rahu-Sun

would start and I guess sade sati too. What should I do for then?

>

> 8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then?? What

> havoc would it play??

>

> As far shaditsati in concerned that the Satrun is conritubting very

> less or no point in astakvarga to leo but it is not bad transiting

> to 12th from your moon infact it is also transiting 12th from you

AL

> which is bad.

Could you please elaborate on this. What is ashtakvarga and how

contribution of saturn to Leo is analysed. So Saturn transiting in

12H from my Moon will not be bad as per you i.e the year 2007-8-9

when saturn will transit through Leo. What about transit through

Virgo and then Libra which will be 1 and 2 from my natal moon

I am trying to correlate it with parallel dasha of Rahu-Sun and Rahu-

Moon around then. Rahu-Mars you have alrady warned me about and sade

sati would be going on till then too.

>

> 9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being in

> the 3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is

> there

> then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

> Ans :- See at end the ans 9,10,11

Did not find answer for 9 here.

>

> 10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of 7th

> house. A MARAKA again

>

> 11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

>

> 12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

> blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says that

> automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with

> Jupiter antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of

> fear?????????

> Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

> nature?????????

>

> Ans : in regard to you question 10,11,12 would like to say you

that

> you have to take care before Jupiter dasa starting as the Jupiter

> and rahu 2/12 this will create problem and you will see the effect

> of rahu being in saggi and Jupiter being in lagna along with mars

> which is co-badha lord varggotma not easy to abolish with remedy.

This is what is really scaring me off. What care can I take before. I

can do puja, mantras and follow a regime for diet, yoga etc. But MS

is such a strange thing that WHEN & HOW it affects is all uncertain.

How do you visualize my Jupiter MD? Esp Jupiter-Jupiter. Can Jupiter

be a killer too????? What is the worst that I can think of?????????

Pls advise. Am I going to be bed ridden!!!!! Or lose functioning of

some organ???

>

> How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should be

> looked in for Health and Life??Through the above-mentioned dashas

> how

> is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

> friends on this group who could advise.

>

> Best Regards

> Prasann

> , Bhaskar Maheswari

> <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Pl.give latitude and long. of Ur place.

> >

> > prasannman <prasannman@> wrote: Thanx Bhaskar. Pls

> note it is 4:03 AM not PM please

> >

> > , Bhaskar Maheswari

> > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Prannmann,

> > > I was interested in Your horoscope as I too have Rahu in 12th

> and

> > Ketu in 6th in my horoscope. But when I cast Your chart I did not

> get

> > the details that You have mentioned ? It showed Leo ascendant and

> > Rahu in 5th. Have I made a mistake or are Your birth details

given

> > wrong ? Re check please and also give latitude and Longitude of

> Your

> > place and the nearest station.

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > prasannman <prasannman@> wrote:

> > > I am seeking support from all and sundry here who are

> > into astro-

> > > healing or having in-depth knowledge of astrology to analyse my

> > chart.

> > >

> > > Date of Birth: March 19, 1973

> > > Place: Bali (Pali) Rajasthan

> > > Time: 4:03 PM

> > >

> > > Having discussed with some astrolgers and digging myself into

> it, I

> > > am not getting to understand the reason which could multiple

> > > sclerosis to me, wether it is actually that or not and how is

my

> > > health patterns in future. When are the relapses likely to

> happen

> > and

> > > affecting which part of the body?

> > >

> > > Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have

> gathered:

> > >

> > > 1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to

> cause

> > > difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

> > > diseases. But when do these placements affect?

> > >

> > > 2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen

> perhaps

> > > so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years

> when

> > MS

> > > suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

> > > should not be strengthned

> > >

> > > 3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health

> > during

> > > that period?

> > >

> > > 4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where

> does

> > > this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its

> nothing

> > to

> > > do with Ketu or Mercury?

> > >

> > > 5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has

> some

> > one

> > > asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

> > >

> > > 6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY &

> VENUS

> > > NO FREINDS?? Is this association doing something to nerves. It

> is

> > > autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from

> where

> > > immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

> > > damage. So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents

> white

> > > substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to

> protect

> > > them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus

> through

> > > stone or something????

> > >

> > > 7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

> > > sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

> > > getting affected....

> > >

> > > 8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then??

What

> > > havoc would it play??

> > >

> > > 9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being

in

> > the

> > > 3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is

> there

> > > then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

> > >

> > > 10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of

> 7th

> > > house. A MARAKA again

> > >

> > > 11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

> > >

> > > 12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

> > > blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says

> that

> > > automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with

> > Jupiter

> > > antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of fear?????????

> > > Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

> > > nature?????????

> > >

> > > How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should

> be

> > > looked in for Health and Life??Through the above-mentioned

> dashas

> > how

> > > is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

> > > friends on this group who could advise.

> > >

> > > Best Regards

> > > Prasann

> > >

> > > Find out what India is talking about on Answers India.

> > > So, what's NEW about the NEW Messenger? Find out.

> > >

July 19, 2006

Hi Prasann,

A few comments below...

, "prasannman" <prasannman wrote:

>

> I am seeking support from all and sundry here who are into astro-

> healing or having in-depth knowledge of astrology to analyse my chart.

>

> Date of Birth: March 19, 1973

> Place: Bali (Pali) Rajasthan

> Time: 4:03 PM

>

> Having discussed with some astrolgers and digging myself into it, I

> am not getting to understand the reason which could multiple

> sclerosis to me, wether it is actually that or not and how is my

> health patterns in future. When are the relapses likely to happen and

> affecting which part of the body?

>

> Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have gathered:

>

> 1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to cause

> difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

> diseases. But when do these placements affect?

Notice the transits of Rahu and Ketu for the 'when'. Currently Rahu

is transiting your Sun and Ketu your Moon, and consequently there

may be more health concerns on your mind lately or fluxuations

in your vision. Ketu to Moon can indicate conflicts with the mother.

> 2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen perhaps

> so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years when MS

> suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

> should not be strengthned.

Astrologers vary widely in their gem recommendations, but I would not

want to have ever suggested a gem for Rahu, because Rahu is greedy

by nature and in a stronger position to cause harm. But a MANTRA to

neutralize some of Rahu's negative affects can sometimes be very

helpful: OM RAHUVE NAMAHA.

> 3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health during

> that period?

Rahu is in Sagittarius ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is debilitated in

Capricorn. Plus Jupiter is malefic 12L of losses and weaknesses and

afflicting your ascendant. Coupled with having Saturn as weak

ascendant lord as well, the chronic health conditions are indicated.

Saturn represents the nerves; Jupiter the liver, blood and the body's

ability to handle fats. Rahu in the 12H can sometimes show immune

system weaknesses.

The situation with Venus is that it's in the very last degree of Aquarius

and that renders it weak. Your chart would greatly benefit by

strengthening measures for your Saturn and Venus, such as wearing

more navy blue for Saturn and royal blue for Venus. Saturn is your

ascendant lord of your overall health and Saturn is well-placed in

Taurus. However, Saturn suffers from weakness because Venus as

the dispositor is weak in Aquarius for the reason I mentioned. BUT

both of these planets are good planets for a Capricorn lagna. Color

therapy may seem simplistic, but sometimes it's those little changes

we make that open up new possibilities in other areas of our lives.

> 4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where does

> this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its nothing to

> do with Ketu or Mercury?

I view that Ketu can not only aspect a planet by being in the same sign,

but it can also throw aspects to planets 5 houses away or 9 houses

away. I find that such nodal aspects explain a great deal of what may

look mysterious on the surface healthwise without considering them.

In this instance, I view that Ketu aspects Mercury within a 5 degree

orb. Ketu can cause inflammations or be destructive in nature to the

nerves as represented by Mercury. It's also interesting that Ketu can have

to do with natural healing methods, such as meditation, message,

biofeedback, pure diet, and acupuncture. To take such measure

might help the overall nervous system and support eye health. 2H Mercury

afflicted and Venus weak would indicate potential eye weaknesses

or concerns. That's why Venus, Saturn and Mercury (which I forgot

to mention earlier) would all benefit from some type of planetary

remedy. Strengthening Mercury would help fortify it from the

troublesome aspect of Ketu. One gem remedy would be a combination

of the emerald for Mercury, diamond for Venus, and the blue sapphire

for Saturn. OR one could do the mantras for all three every day from

now on: OM BUDHAYA NAMAHA (ME); OM SHUKRAYA NAMAHA (VE);

OM SRI SHANAISHWARAYA SWAHA (SA)

> 5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has some one

> asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

Venus is still friendly to Capricorn ascendant and sometimes weak planets

can cause more harm than good or not provide full protection. Maraka

effects should not be of concern here because there are more pressing

health matters to deal with and Venus in maraka house is more likely

to cause harm from its weakness. Saturn is 2H primary maraka lord,

but again, it will cause more harm from having a weak dispositor in

Venus. If this were my chart, I would not hesitate to strengthen both

Saturn as ascendant lord and Venus, which is the yogakaraka planet

of power for Capricorn lagna. Strengthen Saturn as karaka of the

nerves and strengthen Venus which is said to provide the nourishment

to the cells. If Venus is weak and Mercury is afflicted, the nutrition to

the cells may be lacking as viewed from the standpoint of the birth

chart alone.

> 6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY & VENUS

> NO FREINDS??

Yes, they are friends, definitely.

>Is this association doing something to nerves.

This association is a beneficial rajayoga because Mercury is 9L and Venus

5L and 10L. But they are unable to bring forth their full benefits because

of the weakeness and afflictions that have been mentioned involved Mercury

as the nerves and Venus as the possible nutrition to the nerve cells.

> It is

> autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from where

> immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

> damage.

Saturn as 1L in Taurus, the throat area, and Mercury afflicted in the

2H with its afflicted condition could indicate some type

of glandular difficulty. The nerves in the neck area could also be

inflamed because of Ketu's affliction. Some type of chiropractic

adjustment to the neck might be helpful to see of the bones are

pinching or contracting anything. If not,that's one less thing to

be concerned about.

> So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents white

> substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to protect

> them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus through

> stone or something????

The idea is to strengthen all the friendly lords for Capricorn lagna, deal

with the affliction of the debilitated Jupiter to the degree of the ascendant,

and propitiate Rahu and Ketu, but not with gems. Nor would a gem be

recommended for Jupiter.

As a suggestion for propitiations:

Jupiter: Offering service to one's teacher/guru/advisor

Rahu: Helping elderly needy persons and those with afflictions

Ketu: Serving or helping a holy man or woman, or a spiritual organization

Or other charities that would be equivalent.

Mars exalted in Capricorn, as the muscles, is also not at full strength

because it is at zero degrees and disposited by Saturn in Taurus with

Venus as weak dispositor. Nevertheless, these kinds of patterns are found

in the charts of those with chronic illness and the astrological causes can

be dealt with to start breaking up the karma around the condition. That's

the whole point of chart: it's a way of dealing with the lords of karma that

represent the health condition in the chart. Mantras and other spiritual

remedies are the means to this communication.

> 7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

> sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

> getting affected....

Look for transits to and from Rahu and Ketu. If your Sun as

8L of chronic illness aspects them, there may be more stress or

problems. Jupiter's transit to and from natal or transiting Rahu

and Ketu is also worth noticing. When together, you have two malefic

influences acting upon each other. Strengthening the friendly planets

should help you deal with some of the concern about another

possible attack.

> 8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then?? What

> havoc would it play??

By strengthening your natal Saturn, Venus and Mercury, the transits

of Saturn may have less impact regardless of its transit position,

at least on an energy level. Saturn in Cancer is now three degrees

past the degree of your ascendant and pulling away. Most of the

stress you are feeling recently comes from the transit of the nodes

to both your Sun and Moon at the same time. By strengthening the

three primary planets already mentioned, you should be in a better

position to deal with the transits of Rahu over the Sun, Mercury and

Venus going into January and then pulling away.

> 9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being in the

> 3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is there

> then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

Sun in the 3H can represent the lungs and the benefits from doing

breathe exercises to fully oxygenate the blood and supply what's

needed to every cell in the body.

> 10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of 7th

> house. A MARAKA again

Moon, representing the mind and the emotions, can better deal with

Rahu when Mercury's dispositor Saturn is strengthened. This can be done

without disturbing the Moon as 7L.

> 11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

Rahu and Ketu are not friends to any planet. That's why it's good to

support the function and health of the other planets.

> 12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

> blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says that

> automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with Jupiter

> antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of fear?????????

> Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

> nature?????????

Jupiter is *faith* and sometimes it's hard to come by when it's

debilitated and there are health worries, and that can be where the

fear comes in. That's why it's good to make friends with Saturn as

your ascendant lord. Strengthen Saturn and you strengthen your ascendant

lord to better deal with the 12L Jupiter affliction to the ascendant. And

again, these kinds of patterns are typically found in charts where there is

a health problem of major concern.

> How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should be

> looked in for Health and Life??

The D6 Shastamsha amsa is related to health and illness.

> Through the above-mentioned dashas how

> is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

> friends on this group who could advise.

>

> Best Regards

> Prasann

Best wishes, Haizen

(sorry about the typos!)

July 19, 2006

Haizen thanks a lot for getting into the details for me. Hope others

would also be able to get lot of insight with this In fact yours is

the first analysis which I found fair to my understanding. I will

concur that with my own analysis and will come point to point again

for still better understanding.

(But to be honest with you, currently I am in a state where I think I

am a changed person hearing to MS. I am detaching, I fear,... yet I

am not willing to do all mantras, jap, remdies etc....as I am losing

faith in life...or some obscure feeling that whatever is to happen

will happen! My family members insist on some remedies so I do for

the respect for them, else they do it for me...I do not know if with

all the raucous of these evil planets how much life also do I

have!!!!!!!!)

I am taking back to you on your certain points for better

understanding. Please pardon my lack of understanding or repeating.

And thanks very much to be patient in listening to me and reverting.

Please read below as Prasann-2 (PLEASE READ CAPS)for my new comment:

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Hi Prasann,

>

> A few comments below...

>

> , "prasannman" <prasannman@>

wrote:

> >

> > I am seeking support from all and sundry here who are into astro-

> > healing or having in-depth knowledge of astrology to analyse my

chart.

> >

> > Date of Birth: March 19, 1973

> > Place: Bali (Pali) Rajasthan

> > Time: 4:03 PM

PRASANN 2: CORRECT TIME 4:03 AM

> >

> > Having discussed with some astrolgers and digging myself into it,

I

> > am not getting to understand the reason which could multiple

> > sclerosis to me, wether it is actually that or not and how is my

> > health patterns in future. When are the relapses likely to happen

and

> > affecting which part of the body?

> >

> > Here're some quests about my chart realting to what I have

gathered:

> >

> > 1. Rahu 12th house and Ketu 6th house is a bad placement to cause

> > difficult to detect diseases or sometimes just mimmicking some

> > diseases. But when do these placements affect?

>

> Notice the transits of Rahu and Ketu for the 'when'. Currently Rahu

> is transiting your Sun and Ketu your Moon, and consequently there

> may be more health concerns on your mind lately or fluxuations

> in your vision. Ketu to Moon can indicate conflicts with the mother.

PRASANN 2: WELL, I M STAYING AWAY FROM MY PARENTS, RAHU- KETU TRANSIT

STAYS FOR ABOUT 1.6 MONTHS IN A SIGN. RAHU IS TO TRANSIT IN AQAUARIUS

IN NOV 2006 SO MEANS LAST YEAR FROM JUNE 2005 IT WAS IN PISCES (WHICH

IS MY SUN-SIGN) AND BEFORE THAT IN ARIES. NOW HOW DID I HAVE AN

ATTACK IN MARCH 2005???

KETU IS IN VIRGO ( MY MOON SIGN) FOR NOW BUT IN MARCH 2005 IT WAS IN

LEO PERHAPS?

SO HOW DO WE RECKON THEIR MOVEMENT FOR ATTACKS IN FUTURE??

>

> > 2. Rahu is in the sign of saggitarius which makes it fallen

perhaps

> > so I was advised to wear gomed. But then after so many years when

MS

> > suspected was advised to take it out as any planet in bad house

> > should not be strengthned.

>

> Astrologers vary widely in their gem recommendations, but I would

not

> want to have ever suggested a gem for Rahu, because Rahu is greedy

> by nature and in a stronger position to cause harm. But a MANTRA to

> neutralize some of Rahu's negative affects can sometimes be very

> helpful: OM RAHUVE NAMAHA.

>

> > 3. Rahu and Venus are friends together so why MS or ill health

during

> > that period?

>

> Rahu is in Sagittarius ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is debilitated

in

> Capricorn. Plus Jupiter is malefic 12L of losses and weaknesses and

> afflicting your ascendant. Coupled with having Saturn as weak

> ascendant lord as well, the chronic health conditions are indicated.

> Saturn represents the nerves; Jupiter the liver, blood and the

body's

> ability to handle fats. Rahu in the 12H can sometimes show immune

> system weaknesses.

>

> The situation with Venus is that it's in the very last degree of

Aquarius

> and that renders it weak. Your chart would greatly benefit by

> strengthening measures for your Saturn and Venus, such as wearing

> more navy blue for Saturn and royal blue for Venus. Saturn is your

> ascendant lord of your overall health and Saturn is well-placed in

> Taurus. However, Saturn suffers from weakness because Venus as

> the dispositor is weak in Aquarius for the reason I mentioned. BUT

> both of these planets are good planets for a Capricorn lagna. Color

> therapy may seem simplistic, but sometimes it's those little changes

> we make that open up new possibilities in other areas of our lives.

>

PRASANN 2: THIS SOUNDS GOOD AND INCIDENTALLY I HAVE QUITE OF BLUE IN

MY WARDROBE...BUT OF LATE HAD OBSEREVED MY LIKING FOR GREY!

BUT HERE SOME ASTROLOGERS INCLUDING THE ONE WHO ADVISED SHUKRA YANTRA

CUM STONE (A PENDANT)REFUSED TO STRENGTHEN SATURN THOUGH. BECAUSE I

HAD MADE SIMILAR INFERENCE THAT IF SATURN IS BENEFIC AND IS MY LAGNA

LORD THEN WHY NOT I STRENGTHEN IT? BECAUSE I ALSO SEE THIS AS ONE OF

THE REASON FOR MY WEAK KNEES (MENISCUS RUPTURE) AND DENTAL PROBLEMS.

BUT MAY BE BLUE SAPPHIRE IS A SCARY STONE IN INDIA.

I WAS ADVISED TO WEAR A PENDANT OF SAFED PUKHRAJ (WHITE SAPPHIRE) AND

AMETHYST PROBABLY FOR DBEILITATED JUPITER AND STRENGTHENING SATURN. I

DID NOT WEAR THIS ONE. AS I AM ALREADY WEARING THE SHUKRA YANTRA.

ALSO I AM WEARING A PENDANT WHICH HAS PEARL,EMERALD AND RUDRAKSH IN

IT. IS PEARL OKAY AND ANYWAYS I GUESS THEY WILL ASK ME TO WEAR DURING

RAHU-MOON

AND DO YOU RECKON ME TAKING THE SHUKRA STONE-YANTRA OFF WHEN RAHU-

SURYA COMES. AND THEN SHOULD I WEAR SOMETHING OR IS SUN STRONG ENOUGH

TO HANDLE RAHU. AND BELIEVE THAT IF RAHU IS REPRESENTING JUPITER HERE

THEN THESE TWO ARE FRIENDS.

AS PER YOU WHAT IS CLOSEST TO-BE-ALERT SITUATION TO HAVE AN ATTACK OR

SMTHG

I WONDER NOW WHEN I TALK TO ASTROLOGERS NOW AFTER SHARING MS... ALL

TALK ABOUT SEVERAL THINGS AND MARAK AND KASHTA AND MAHAMRITUANJAYA

MANTRAS AND WHAT NOT... BUT A YEAR AGO NO ONE TOLD ME ANYTHING OF A

CHRONIC AILMENT!!!!!! AS PER YOU STRAIGHT THERE IS A CHRONIC AILMENT?

AND THERE S NO CHANCE THAT MY MS COULD BE BENIGN? JUST A FEW ATTACKS

AND ITS GONE NOW? AM I TO HAVE SOME DEBILITY...WHICH PART???? ITS TOO

EARLY FOR ME TO RETIRE....AND IN INDIA THERE IS NO INSURANCE COVERAGE

TOO FOR THIS......

> > 4.Ketu is in the sign of Gemini which rules nerves but where does

> > this come in the picture during my Rahu-Venus period. Its nothing

to

> > do with Ketu or Mercury?

>

> I view that Ketu can not only aspect a planet by being in the same

sign,

> but it can also throw aspects to planets 5 houses away or 9 houses

> away. I find that such nodal aspects explain a great deal of what

may

> look mysterious on the surface healthwise without considering them.

> In this instance, I view that Ketu aspects Mercury within a 5 degree

> orb. Ketu can cause inflammations or be destructive in nature to the

> nerves as represented by Mercury. It's also interesting that Ketu

can have

> to do with natural healing methods, such as meditation, message,

> biofeedback, pure diet, and acupuncture. To take such measure

> might help the overall nervous system and support eye health. 2H

Mercury

> afflicted and Venus weak would indicate potential eye weaknesses

> or concerns. That's why Venus, Saturn and Mercury (which I forgot

> to mention earlier) would all benefit from some type of planetary

> remedy. Strengthening Mercury would help fortify it from the

> troublesome aspect of Ketu. One gem remedy would be a combination

> of the emerald for Mercury, diamond for Venus, and the blue sapphire

> for Saturn. OR one could do the mantras for all three every day from

> now on: OM BUDHAYA NAMAHA (ME); OM SHUKRAYA NAMAHA (VE);

> OM SRI SHANAISHWARAYA SWAHA (SA)

>

PRASANN 2: ISNT MERCURY MALEFIC FOR ME??? BECAUSE IN FACT THAT WAS

FIRST THING TO FOR ME TO OBSERVE THAT MERCURY IS WEAK OR AFFLICTED BY

KETU THEN MAY BE WEARING AN EMERALD SHOULD HELP. BUT AGAIN THE SAME

GUY WHO GAVE ME SHUKRA YANTRA SAID I SHOULD NOT WEAR EMERALD. I DID

TRY TELLING HIM COMPLETELY ABOUT MS...DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH HE

UNDERSTOOD. IN FACT HE IS QUITE A SENIOR PRACTICING PERSON.

ON ASKING FOR MY LIFE SPAN HE SAID IT TO BE MIDDLE AGED!!

> > 5. Is Venus maraka occupying the second house?? Then why has some

one

> > asked me to wear SHUKRA STONE to empower it??

>

> Venus is still friendly to Capricorn ascendant and sometimes weak

planets

> can cause more harm than good or not provide full protection. Maraka

> effects should not be of concern here because there are more

pressing

> health matters to deal with and Venus in maraka house is more likely

> to cause harm from its weakness. Saturn is 2H primary maraka lord,

> but again, it will cause more harm from having a weak dispositor in

> Venus. If this were my chart, I would not hesitate to strengthen

both

> Saturn as ascendant lord and Venus, which is the yogakaraka planet

> of power for Capricorn lagna. Strengthen Saturn as karaka of the

> nerves and strengthen Venus which is said to provide the nourishment

> to the cells. If Venus is weak and Mercury is afflicted, the

nutrition to

> the cells may be lacking as viewed from the standpoint of the birth

> chart alone.

>

> > 6. Mercury occupies the same house as of Venus. ARE MERCURY &

VENUS

> > NO FREINDS??

>

> Yes, they are friends, definitely.

>

> >Is this association doing something to nerves.

>

> This association is a beneficial rajayoga because Mercury is 9L and

Venus

> 5L and 10L. But they are unable to bring forth their full benefits

because

> of the weakeness and afflictions that have been mentioned involved

Mercury

> as the nerves and Venus as the possible nutrition to the nerve

cells.

>

> > It is

> > autoimmune (pertaining to thyroid region- Neck region) from where

> > immunoregulation happens. And its overactivity is causing nerve

> > damage.

>

> Saturn as 1L in Taurus, the throat area, and Mercury afflicted in

the

> 2H with its afflicted condition could indicate some type

> of glandular difficulty. The nerves in the neck area could also be

> inflamed because of Ketu's affliction. Some type of chiropractic

> adjustment to the neck might be helpful to see of the bones are

> pinching or contracting anything. If not,that's one less thing to

> be concerned about.

>

> > So should it be overpowered???? Or Venus represents white

> > substance which could mean myelin that covers the nerves to

protect

> > them is getting demyelinated?? So its okay to appease Venus

through

> > stone or something????

>

> The idea is to strengthen all the friendly lords for Capricorn

lagna, deal

> with the affliction of the debilitated Jupiter to the degree of the

ascendant,

> and propitiate Rahu and Ketu, but not with gems. Nor would a gem be

> recommended for Jupiter.

>

PRASANN 2: MY IMMUNE RESPONSE RATHER GETS HYPERACTIVE THUS ATTACK

NERVES. SHOULD I SEE IT AS...RAHU- VENUS....ATTACKS ON EYES AND MS

DIAGNOIS....RAHU BALANCE MD (RAHU-SUN, RAHU-MOON, RAHU-MARS) CAUSES

MORE ATTACKS WITH SHANI SADE SATI STARTING ON AND THUS I AM BOUND TO

TAKE INTERFERONS AND THUS MY LIVER ETC IS AFFECTED AND I AM TO

DEFINITELY BE HOSPITALIZED IN JUPITER-JUPITER PD. AND MAY BE JUPITER-

SATURN LEADS TO SOME PERMANENT DEBILITY.....AND THEN IS SATURN MD....

WHAT IS THE SAFEST AND BEST THING THAT YOU ADVISE FOR ME FOR:

RAHU-SUN

RAHU-MOON

RAHU-MARS

JUPITER-JUPITER AND THE MD?

APART FROM THE BELOW ONES...

HANDLING AND ANALYSING TRANSITS IS THE MOST DIFFICULT PART

> As a suggestion for propitiations:

>

> Jupiter: Offering service to one's teacher/guru/advisor

> Rahu: Helping elderly needy persons and those with afflictions

> Ketu: Serving or helping a holy man or woman, or a spiritual

organization

>

> Or other charities that would be equivalent.

>

> Mars exalted in Capricorn, as the muscles, is also not at full

strength

> because it is at zero degrees and disposited by Saturn in Taurus

with

> Venus as weak dispositor. Nevertheless, these kinds of patterns are

found

> in the charts of those with chronic illness and the astrological

causes can

> be dealt with to start breaking up the karma around the condition.

That's

> the whole point of chart: it's a way of dealing with the lords of

karma that

> represent the health condition in the chart. Mantras and other

spiritual

> remedies are the means to this communication.

>

> > 7. Have Rahu-Venus till May 2007, so means another attack

> > sometime??????Had first in March 2005, then March 2006.....eyes

> > getting affected....

>

> Look for transits to and from Rahu and Ketu. If your Sun as

> 8L of chronic illness aspects them, there may be more stress or

> problems. Jupiter's transit to and from natal or transiting Rahu

> and Ketu is also worth noticing. When together, you have two malefic

> influences acting upon each other. Strengthening the friendly

planets

> should help you deal with some of the concern about another

> possible attack.

YES THIS POINT IS BIT TEDIOUS FOR ME TO CALCULATE....AS I MENTIONED.

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HELP ME OUT ON THIS. LIKE SUN'S ASPECT IN

TRANSIT OR NATAL SUN? EG. IF RAHU IS TO TRANSIT INTO AQAURIUS THIS

NOVEMBER 8, 2006 THAT MEANS THERE IS NO ASPECT OF SUN THERE BUT VENUS

AND MERCURY ARE IN 2H IN THE SIGN OF AQAUARIUS. AND BOTH THESE

PLANETS AS WELL THE LORD SATURN ARE WEAK. SO PROBABLY AN ATTACK??....

BCOZ RAHU REMAINS IN A SIGN FOR 1.6 YRS I.E. APRIL 2008.

AND THEN AGAIN IT TRANISTS THROUGH MY LAGNA IE CAPRICORN WHERE

JUPITER AND MARS (OCCUPANTS) AND LORD SATURN ARE ALL NOT ABLE TO DO

GOOD...SO ANOTHER ATTACK??.....THOUGH SUN DOES NOT ASPECT THIS

THEN TRANSITS SAGGITARIUS OCCUPIED BY HIMSELF...ANOTHER ATTACK??

(AND MAY BE THESE ATTACKS WILL PUSH ME FOR INTERFERONS AND THUS

JUPITER IN ITS MD MAY GIVE MORE DAMAGE TO LIVER, NERVES,

BLOOD........)

SIMILARLY KETU IS TO COME IN SIGN LEO WHICH IS RULED BY SUN AND I DO

NOT KNOW IF SUN IS ASPECTING IT.THEN TAURUS THEN ARIES.....

> > 8. Shani sade saati is also to start sometime around then?? What

> > havoc would it play??

>

> By strengthening your natal Saturn, Venus and Mercury, the transits

> of Saturn may have less impact regardless of its transit position,

> at least on an energy level. Saturn in Cancer is now three degrees

> past the degree of your ascendant and pulling away. Most of the

> stress you are feeling recently comes from the transit of the nodes

> to both your Sun and Moon at the same time. By strengthening the

> three primary planets already mentioned, you should be in a better

> position to deal with the transits of Rahu over the Sun, Mercury

and

> Venus going into January and then pulling away.

>

> > 9. Rahu-Sun period is then there. Are they friends. Sun being in

the

> > 3rd house is the lord of 8th house (house of death!!)What is

there

> > then. Would it effect my chest region??? or more.....

>

> Sun in the 3H can represent the lungs and the benefits from doing

> breathe exercises to fully oxygenate the blood and supply what's

> needed to every cell in the body.

>

> > 10. Rahu- Moon?? Are they friends together. Moon is the lord of

7th

> > house. A MARAKA again

>

> Moon, representing the mind and the emotions, can better deal with

> Rahu when Mercury's dispositor Saturn is strengthened. This can be

done

> without disturbing the Moon as 7L.

>

> > 11. Rahu- Mars. Enemies?? What now?? Mars is exalted

>

> Rahu and Ketu are not friends to any planet. That's why it's good to

> support the function and health of the other planets.

>

> > 12. Then comes Jupiter Mahadasha and they say it is a planet of

> > blessings. But it is debilitated in Ascendant. This also says

that

> > automatically it is neecha-bhanga. But still Jupiter MD with

Jupiter

> > antar paralled with shani sade sati is a cause of fear?????????

> > Jupiter affects Head being in Lagna or Liver as per its said

> > nature?????????

>

> Jupiter is *faith* and sometimes it's hard to come by when it's

> debilitated and there are health worries, and that can be where the

> fear comes in. That's why it's good to make friends with Saturn as

> your ascendant lord. Strengthen Saturn and you strengthen your

ascendant

> lord to better deal with the 12L Jupiter affliction to the

ascendant. And

> again, these kinds of patterns are typically found in charts where

there is

> a health problem of major concern.

>

> > How can one tell more about health and life? Which amsha should

be

> > looked in for Health and Life??

>

> The D6 Shastamsha amsa is related to health and illness.

>

> > Through the above-mentioned dashas how

> > is my future seen through?? Would be extremely grateful to all

> > friends on this group who could advise.

SO I GATHER THAT VENUS WAS OVERPOWERED BY RAHU AND MAY BE THIS MS

THING HAPPENED....AND WEARING DIAMOND AND EMERALD AND MAY BE

AMETHYST/BLUE SAPPHIRE SHOULD HELP ME...WHAT ABOUT SADE

SATI...WOULDNT IT BE BAD FOR MY PARENTS IF STRENGTHEN SATURN NOW?

I SHOULD NOT WEAR YELLOW??

IS SUN EVIL FOR ME? THEN RAHU-SUN WOULD BE BAD PERIOD...AND SHANI

SADE SATI AROUND THEN WOULD HELP OR WOULD MAKE IT WORSE? THINK I

SHOULD NOT WEAR ANYTHING FOR SUN...NOT REQUIRED ISNT IT?

RAHU-MARS? WHAT IF I AM ADVISED TO WEAR RED CORAL THEN??

AND WHAT SHOULD I WEAR DURING COMPLETE JUPITER MD

I MIGHT HAVE GONE OVERBOARD WITH MY ENDLESS QUESTIONS. BUT I M JUST

JOSTLING TRYING TO IMPROVISE KARMA IF I COULD...I DO CHARITIES TO THE

NEEDY AND HELP PEOPLE...NOT REALLY MUCH INTO TEMPLES AND MANTRAS.

> >

> > Best Regards

> > Prasann

>

> Best wishes, Haizen

>

> (sorry about the typos!)

>

July 21, 2006

Dear Prasann,

I will try my best to answer your questions. I

tried to word the report to make it understandable,

as you have some background in the study of the

stars. So I am glad to have succeeded to whatever

extent.

Writing PM for your birth time was a typo; AM was

used.

If you are feeling detached and fearful, that may be

one of the lessons of your chart and life: to understand

fear and rebuild faith if possible. When Jupiter is

debilitated and the 9L of faith, and grace is weak

or afflicted, the person does not usually feel spiritually

or physically protected from negative unseen forces,

and I believe this is what you're experiencing. The irony

is that these are the people who usually need the grace

the most but are too disinclined or discouraged to

rebuild it or pursue it in themselves. But to do so can

feel like abandoning oneself to one's fate, and it's

possible that's what their life-time is partially about.

Spiritual remedies are about setting new positive

causes in motion--the product of free will--but if the

person is too tired and exhausted, there may be no

energy or motivation to do these practices. But if I

think that one way to rebuilt one's faith is to do these

spiritual practices on behalf of others -- that is, if there's

this feeling that nothing will make any difference in life

for the person with the illness.

1. PRASANN 2: WELL, I'M STAYING AWAY FROM

MY PARENTS, RAHU- KETU TRANSIT STAYS FOR

ABOUT 1.6 MONTHS IN A SIGN.

Currently the Nodes are transiting both your Sun and

Moon, as karaka of your parents, and this can indicate

your desire to be away from them. This transit ends

when the Nodes move into Leo/Aquarius.

NOW HOW DID I HAVE AN ATTACK IN MARCH

2005??? KETU IS IN VIRGO ( MY MOON SIGN)

FOR NOW BUT IN MARCH 2005 IT WAS IN

LEO PERHAPS?

The Nodes were in Pisces/Virgo, but transiting

Sun as the troublesome 8L of obstructions and

chronic illness was beginning to aspect your

Mercury, then Venus, and then it's own Sun

position on your birthday. Plus, transiting

Mercury was aspecting your natal Sun as 8L

at the same time. The 8L can indicate problems

and flare-ups, but not always! There's always

more than one transit that must be taken into

account or one can falsely expect the worst at

all times.

SO HOW DO WE RECKON THEIR MOVEMENT

FOR ATTACKS IN FUTURE??

Well, after the Nodes finish their transit to your

Sun and Moon, they move into Leo/Aquarius

and aspect your Venus and Mercury going into

January. So this is a good reason to do something

positive in your outlook and in your physical care

before those transits take place. If one just lives

defensively waiting for the worst to happen, what

kind of a life-style is that? What about being proactive

in one's healthcare or in finding inner resources of

faith and resolve that one might not have suspected?

The choice is yours, otherwise life looks bleak and

gets bleaker through passive resistance. While it's

not easy, it still remains an option and can perhaps

reduce the level of fear and suffering.

3. PRASANN 2: THIS SOUNDS GOOD AND

INCIDENTALLY I HAVE QUITE OF BLUE IN

MY WARDROBE...BUT OF LATE HAD OBSERVED

MY LIKING FOR GREY!

Well, just so you know, the smoky grey colors are

given to the Nodes. Rahu and Ketu love grey and

you might consider whether theirs is the best energy

to feed. Speaking astrologically, in terms of color

therapy, it is considered to be much more beneficial

to wear clearly defined colors, such as navy blue

for Saturn, royal blue for Venus, and emerald for

Mercury. Opinions vary, but according to some

astrologers, the favorable colors for Capricorn

are bright black, white, bright brown, all shades

of blue, green, and variegated colors (a mixture

of colors). The unfavorable ones are steel grey,

dull smoke grey, orange, pink, yellow, and faded

colors.

BUT HERE SOME ASTROLOGERS INCLUDING

THE ONE WHO ADVISED SHUKRA YANTRA

CUM STONE (A PENDANT) REFUSED TO

STRENGTHEN SATURN THOUGH. BECAUSE

I HAD MADE SIMILAR INFERENCE THAT IF

SATURN IS BENEFIC AND IS MY LAGNA LORD

THEN WHY NOT I STRENGTHEN IT? BECAUSE

I ALSO SEE THIS AS ONE OF THE REASON FOR

MY WEAK KNEES (MENISCUS RUPTURE) AND

DENTAL PROBLEMS. BUT MAY BE BLUE

SAPPHIRE IS A SCARY STONE IN INDIA.

Again, opinions vary, but I have noticed that in

charts where Saturn is strong by sign and has a

strong dispositor, the person has sound bones

and teeth. It's when Saturn is weak that it indicates

problems with the teeth and bones; and a gem for

Saturn is said to both strengthen it for good and to

lessen its qualities as a natural malefic. But some

astrologers are afraid to strengthen a natural malefic,

such as Saturn or Mars, under any circumstances,

believing that it makes these planets more malefic

even if they rule the good houses of 1, 5, and 9. I am

not of that opinion or there would never have been

gems assigned to Mars and Saturn. Saturn can very

often work for good! But it usually makes the person

work like a dog in order to get its benefits. In your

chart, Saturn is your ascendant lord and it limits

you unless you are working on your health, which

is one way of strengthening your Saturn.

I WAS ADVISED TO WEAR A PENDANT OF SAFED

PUKHRAJ (WHITE SAPPHIRE) AND

AMETHYST PROBABLY FOR DEBILITATED

JUPITER AND STRENGTHENING SATURN. I

DID NOT WEAR THIS ONE. AS I AM ALREADY

WEARING THE SHUKRA YANTRA.

Again, opinions vary, but I consider Jupiter as

12L a functional malefic, and I never recommend

a gem for any functional malefic planet. I feel that

it adds to their power to cause harm. They seem

to responds better to mantras and pujas to lessen

their malefic intent. I would view your decision

not to wear a Jupiter gem as a wise one. On the

other hand, the Shukra mantra sounds fine because

Venus can use the extra help, as it rules the sign of

Taurus where Saturn is placed and makes both

planets happier and stronger.

ALSO I AM WEARING A PENDANT WHICH HAS

PEARL,EMERALD AND RUDRAKSH IN IT. IS

PEARL OKAY AND ANYWAYS I GUESS THEY

WILL ASK ME TO WEAR DURING RAHU-MOON

This would be fine in my view.

AND DO YOU RECKON ME TAKING THE SHUKRA

STONE-YANTRA OFF WHEN RAHU-SURYA COMES.

Not necessarily--that is, if it's a good Shukra stone.

High quality gems are the best and they can be very

expensive. But if it's as flawless as possible, preferably

unheated, the gem or or other Shukra talisman should

be viewed as a plus.

AND THEN SHOULD I WEAR SOMETHING OR

IS SUN STRONG ENOUGH

TO HANDLE RAHU.

Never, in my opinion. Sun as 8L is the most malefic

planet in your chart, and its transits helped set off

your condition in March of 2005. Look at that period

and see. Instead, the spiritual propitiation for the

Sun is when you do something like helping your father

or elderly men. So even if you do not see eye to eye

with your father, it's good karma for you to do

something for him, even if it's to say a prayer or

mantra on his behalf. But no gem for the Sun, please.

AND BELIEVE THAT IF RAHU IS REPRESENTING

JUPITER HERE THEN THESE TWO ARE FRIENDS.

Jupiter is debilitated and 12L of losses, expenses, and

confinement. Plus it is afflicting your ascendant. I

don't think this sounds like a friend to you. Plus

when one functional malefic, Jupiter, combines

its energy with the other trouble-maker malefics,

Rahu and Ketu, they are a not friends either.

This is why it's good to note when the transiting

Nodes aspect your natal Jupiter, transiting Jupiter

aspects your natal Nodes, or the transiting Nodes

aspect transiting Jupiter. All three combinations

would not be viewed as a friendly period for you,

and you would want to look to the other functional

benefic transits for protective energies, as from

Saturn, Moon, Mercury and Venus.

AS PER YOU WHAT IS CLOSEST TO-BE-ALERT

SITUATION TO HAVE AN ATTACK OR SMTHG

I think that's the wrong focus to take. I think a better

approach to take is this: "What small measures can

I take in my life to improve my faith, outlook and

overall physical condition?" Otherwise you're just

a sitting duck waiting for the next bad aspect from

the Sun or the Nodes to perhaps worsen your

condition.

I WONDER NOW WHEN I TALK TO ASTROLOGERS

NOW AFTER SHARING MS... ALL TALK ABOUT

SEVERAL THINGS AND MARAK AND KASHTA

AND MAHAMRITUANJAYA MANTRAS AND WHAT

NOT... BUT A YEAR AGO NO ONE TOLD ME

ANYTHING OF A CHRONIC AILMENT!!!!!! AS PER

YOU STRAIGHT THERE IS A CHRONIC AILMENT?

Astrologers not predicting a serious medical condition

is the norm not the exception. If they actually saw it

in the chart, how many astrologers would want

to tell their clients that in a year from now they

will be diagnosed with MS? I happen to feel that

medical astrology is a specialty and these

astrologers are the best one's to see potential

serious health problems in the chart. But very

few specialize in it, and in general it's not the

astrologer's fault if he or she can't predict some

of these trying conditions. It might not have made

any difference in the life of the person coming

down with the disease, if the disease is of a serious

karma nature, and was destined to happen anyway.

Nevertheless, this doesn't mean that astrology

cannot be helpful after the fact, such as in the

discussion we're having now. (I also happen to

have a chronic health condition that was never

predicted by any astrologer or psychic, and one

happened to be an Indian astrologer and palmist.

Even he missed it, and this was only about a year

before the condition manifested.)

AND THERE S NO CHANCE THAT MY MS

COULD BE BENIGN? JUST A FEW ATTACKS

AND ITS GONE NOW?

I think you are the only one who can answer that,

and you know enough about your chart to do so.

AM I TO HAVE SOME DEBILITY...WHICH

PART????

I think you already know that too.

ITS TOO EARLY FOR ME TO RETIRE....AND

IN INDIA THERE IS NO INSURANCE

COVERAGE TOO FOR THIS...…

All the more not to surrender to despair or

complete loss of faith. What Capricorn ascendant

wants to leave life without its share of

accomplishments?

4. PRASANN 2: ISNT MERCURY MALEFIC

FOR ME??? BECAUSE IN FACT THAT WAS

FIRST THING TO FOR ME TO OBSERVE

THAT MERCURY IS WEAK OR AFFLICTED

BY KETU THEN MAY BE WEARING AN

EMERALD SHOULD HELP.

For a Capricorn ascendant, Mercury plays a

dual role as 9L of faith and good fortune and

6L of potential illness. I give the weight of

Mercury to the 9L because Virgo is the

mooltatrikona sign for Mercury--it's dominant

sign--making it a functional benefic planet.

Plus, Mercury, Venus and Saturn are friends

and members of the same planetary camp.

Nevertheless, Mercury relates to the nerves

and rules the 6H of ill-health. BUT, once again,

I would view Mercury's health-related problems

to the fact that it is weak and afflicted, and not

because it happens to also rule the 6H. Ketu's

aspect to Mercury is one of the signatures for

MS if Saturn and Venus happen to be weak or

afflicted as well.

BUT AGAIN THE SAME GUY WHO GAVE ME

SHUKRA YANTRA SAID I SHOULD NOT WEAR

EMERALD.

He was probably scared off because Mercury

rules the 6H as well as the 9H. But if you fail to

strengthen Mercury, you may lose some of the

spiritual benefits of faith and grace of the 9H,

and that's why I happen to feel that Mercury

(and Venus!) can always be safely strengthened

for a Capricorn lagna.

I DID TRY TELLING HIM COMPLETELY ABOUT

MS...DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH HE

UNDERSTOOD. IN FACT HE IS QUITE

A SENIOR PRACTICING PERSON. ON

ASKING FOR MY LIFE SPAN HE SAID IT

TO BE MIDDLE AGED!!

I happen to think that it's more important

how well one lives than how long. On the other

hand, it doesn't take a genius to realize that

most serious health conditions can inhibit the

longevity of one's life if passively endured.

6. PRASANN 2: MY IMMUNE RESPONSE

RATHER GETS HYPERACTIVE, THUS

ATTACK NERVES. SHOULD I SEE IT

AS...RAHU- VENUS....ATTACKS ON EYES

AND MS DIAGNOIS.…

Eye concerns are related to 2H affairs and the

weakness of Venus and the affliction of Ketu to

Mercury and Saturn as a weak dispositor. That's

why planetary remedies have been suggested to

better help guide you from within through these

transit periods.

RAHU BALANCE MD (RAHU-SUN, RAHU-MOON,

RAHU-MARS) CAUSES MORE ATTACKS WITH

SHANI SADE SATI STARTING ON AND THUS I

AM BOUND TO TAKE INTERFERONS AND THUS

MY LIVER ETC IS AFFECTED AND I AM TO

DEFINITELY BE HOSPITALIZED IN JUPITER-

JUPITER PD. AND MAY BE JUPITER-SATURN

LEADS TO SOME PERMANENT DEBILITY..…

AND THEN IS SATURN MD.…

I think you're projecting a very fearful and limiting

future for yourself by focusing on these issues rather

than what small measures you can take to improve

your outlook and physical health, including your

overall general health.

WHAT IS THE SAFEST AND BEST THING THAT

YOU ADVISE FOR ME FOR:

RAHU-SUN

RAHU-MOON

RAHU-MARS

JUPITER-JUPITER AND THE MD?

APART FROM THE BELOW ONES...

Meditation and prayer. But not the meditation of

fear and apprehension; but rather, "Divine

Intelligence, teach me from within what the

lesson is here! What can I learn from this to

add meaning to my life? What is the GIFT of

this condition?" Otherwise, you're doing what?

- watching for the next transit of Rahu and Ketu.

The body heals at the alpha level of brain wave,

and this is what meditation helps to do. (Look

into the alpha work of Jose Silva for more

information on the relationship between

meditation and health.)

HANDLING AND ANALYSING TRANSITS IS

THE MOST DIFFICULT PART

I would use them to get an overall sense of what

they're doing, but not hand your life over to them

out of fear. The mantra for Saturn has a way of

connecting the person with the higher energy of

this planet. The one I like the best is: OM SRI

SHANAISWARAYA SWAHA, and it's available

for anyone who wants to use it. It's one of the

Saturn mantras for good health and healing.

7. YES THIS POINT IS BIT TEDIOUS FOR ME

TO CALCULATE....AS I MENTIONED.

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HELP ME OUT

ON THIS. LIKE SUN'S ASPECT IN

TRANSIT OR NATAL SUN? EG. IF RAHU

IS TO TRANSIT INTO AQUARIUS THIS

NOVEMBER 8, 2006 THAT MEANS THERE

IS NO ASPECT OF SUN THERE BUT VENUS

AND MERCURY ARE IN 2H IN THE SIGN

OF AQUARIUS. AND BOTH THESE PLANETS

AS WELL THE LORD SATURN ARE WEAK.

SO PROBABLY AN ATTACK??.… BCOZ RAHU

REMAINS IN A SIGN FOR 1.6 YRS I.E. APRIL

2008.

What I suggest is that you just happen to track

the transit of the Sun to your natal planets and

particularly to Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu. Then just

take it easier on those days without expecting a full

blown attack. According to our expectations we

can sometimes make matters worse and

manufacture negative toxins in our body.

The mind has great impact on the body, so

it pays to focus on what we want to attract

in life. Do we want to resist ill-health, or

*attract* good health? Big difference.

AND THEN AGAIN IT TRANSITS THROUGH

MY LAGNA IE CAPRICORN WHERE

JUPITER AND MARS (OCCUPANTS) AND

LORD SATURN ARE ALL NOT ABLE TO DO

GOOD...SO ANOTHER ATTACK??.....THOUGH

SUN DOES NOT ASPECT THIS.

These transits are way off in the future and a

great deal can be done ahead of time to neutralize

some of their negative effects.

THEN TRANSITS SAGITTARIUS OCCUPIED

BY HIMSELF...ANOTHER ATTACK??

Another transit years away...

(AND MAY BE THESE ATTACKS WILL PUSH

ME FOR INTERFERONS AND THUS

JUPITER IN ITS MD MAY GIVE MORE

DAMAGE TO LIVER, NERVES, BLOOD.…….)

Here are some options to look into that have

helped many. I would also recommend acupuncture

treatments for those with MS but only under a

doctor's advisement. Resources:

http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/Article.asp?Id=729

SIMILARLY KETU IS TO COME IN SIGN LEO

WHICH IS RULED BY SUN AND I DO

NOT KNOW IF SUN IS ASPECTING IT. THEN

TAURUS THEN ARIES..…

Again, many months away. So you can either do

what you can to come to terms with the weaknesses

of your chart, and balance them out, or you can

worry and fret about every major or minor

transit that comes along. I couldn't live that

way myself.

12. SO I GATHER THAT VENUS WAS

OVERPOWERED BY RAHU AND MAY

BE THIS MS THING HAPPENED....AND

WEARING DIAMOND AND EMERALD AND

MAY BE AMETHYST/BLUE SAPPHIRE SHOULD

HELP ME...WHAT ABOUT SADE SATI ...WOULDNT

IT BE BAD FOR MY PARENTS IF STRENGTHEN

SATURN NOW?

Not in my opinion, no. The sooner the better, and

it needs to be a good gem, as flawless as possible,

even if it's small. And there are alternative gems

you can consider from any high quality gem dealer:

http://www.astrologicalgem.com/

(This is not an advertisement.)

I SHOULD NOT WEAR YELLOW??

Not recommended because it rules the 12H of losses

and weakening influences. Plus, it also afflicts the

degree of your ascendant and rules the 12H where

malefic Rahu happens to reside. Work with Jupiter

using mantras to bring yourself in harmony with

its higher nature and without strengthening it for

harm.

IS SUN EVIL FOR ME? THEN RAHU-SUN

WOULD BE BAD PERIOD...

Sun is 8L of chronic illness and not considered

a friendly planet for Capricorn rising. Rahu-Sun

could indicate further disagreements with your

parents that would be good karma for you to

work out.

AND SHANI SADE SATI AROUND THEN

WOULD HELP OR WOULD MAKE IT WORSE?

The effects of Sade Sati vary depending upon

whether Saturn is friendly to your chart or not.

Both Saturn and the Moon are friendly planets

for you and this makes Sade Sati somewhat

more manageable. Getting through Sade Sati

is not the problem here; it's the basic strength

of the natal planets and whatever you may

plan to do about them. In my opinion, you are

overemphasizing the importance of the transits

at the expense of dealing with the health

indications of MS in your natal chart. The

natal chart is the key, not the transits. Otherwise,

it's like looking through the wrong end of the

telescope and getting a distorted view of life.

THINK I SHOULD NOT WEAR ANYTHING

FOR SUN...NOT REQUIRED ISNT IT?

Not recommended for the reasons stated

before: it's the most malefic planet for Capricorn

rising as 8L of chronic illnesses.

RAHU-MARS? WHAT IF I AM ADVISED TO

WEAR RED CORAL THEN?? AND WHAT

SHOULD I WEAR DURING COMPLETE JUPITER MD

Strengthening the benefic planets of Saturn,

Venus and Mercury help support the proper

function of the functional malefic planets in

one's chart, and it's generally not recommended

to wear gems for the functional malefics. One

astrologer's opinion.

I MIGHT HAVE GONE OVERBOARD WITH

MY ENDLESS QUESTIONS.

It's okay. I happened to have had the time to

complete our exchange.

BUT I'M JUST JOSTLING TRYING TO

IMPROVISE KARMA IF I COULD...

Yes, you are...and I think it's wonderful. And

if you have little faith for yourself, have it for

others and serve them in unexpected ways to

help break through this karma of health, if for

this life-time or the next. For do we all not

choose our charts? How did you happen to

get that Jupiter? Or your Saturn placement?

Or are we merely victims of fate living in a

meaningless universe?

As for myself, I have to view life and the

universe as positive and meaningful or man

would never have been given the wonderful

tool of astrology to help understand his fate

and activate his powers of choice and freewill.

I DO CHARITIES TO THE NEEDY AND HELP

PEOPLE...NOT REALLY MUCH INTO TEMPLES

AND MANTRAS.

I think this is exceptionally good karma for yourself.

Sincere best wishes, Haizen

July 24, 2006

Oops its going very lengthy.........And I deeply appreciate your

patience. I think may it is the affect of Ketu on my moon sign that I

feel so emotional as I never was. I used to meditate, but now I can

not.

Well, actually I am not the kind of person who would sit and keep

gazing into stars. You are right in telling that I am a workaholic

and may be saturn makes me do that:

I will just cut it short for now on 3 moot points:

1. As per Parashara, if sun and moon have lordship of 8th house they

are no malefics and should be seen that way. Also that 3H planet if

is a malefic tends to shun off its malefic nature.

The only point with which I feel that sun could be malefic is that

yes I am a capricorn lagna and saturn and sun are enemies.

2. Well, actually with the following dasha also of debilitated

jupiter I feel the case of Benign MS is not there. I am to have

attacks and move around hospis.....as per the conditions of planets

and dashas I envisage...would appreciate your view on this please

3. Actually to answer for debility I think sun affects eyes primarily

or may be the whole well being and the earlier two attacks I have

already had on eyes...double vision and then later dim vision in left

eye...but 3H also reperesnts ear, chest....what say you for Rahu-Sun

period?

Rgds

Prasann

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Dear Prasann,

>

> I will try my best to answer your questions. I

> tried to word the report to make it understandable,

> as you have some background in the study of the

> stars. So I am glad to have succeeded to whatever

> extent.

>

> Writing PM for your birth time was a typo; AM was

> used.

>

> If you are feeling detached and fearful, that may be

> one of the lessons of your chart and life: to understand

> fear and rebuild faith if possible. When Jupiter is

> debilitated and the 9L of faith, and grace is weak

> or afflicted, the person does not usually feel spiritually

> or physically protected from negative unseen forces,

> and I believe this is what you're experiencing. The irony

> is that these are the people who usually need the grace

> the most but are too disinclined or discouraged to

> rebuild it or pursue it in themselves. But to do so can

> feel like abandoning oneself to one's fate, and it's

> possible that's what their life-time is partially about.

> Spiritual remedies are about setting new positive

> causes in motion--the product of free will--but if the

> person is too tired and exhausted, there may be no

> energy or motivation to do these practices. But if I

> think that one way to rebuilt one's faith is to do these

> spiritual practices on behalf of others -- that is, if there's

> this feeling that nothing will make any difference in life

> for the person with the illness.

>

> 1. PRASANN 2: WELL, I'M STAYING AWAY FROM

> MY PARENTS, RAHU- KETU TRANSIT STAYS FOR

> ABOUT 1.6 MONTHS IN A SIGN.

>

> Currently the Nodes are transiting both your Sun and

> Moon, as karaka of your parents, and this can indicate

> your desire to be away from them. This transit ends

> when the Nodes move into Leo/Aquarius.

>

> NOW HOW DID I HAVE AN ATTACK IN MARCH

> 2005??? KETU IS IN VIRGO ( MY MOON SIGN)

> FOR NOW BUT IN MARCH 2005 IT WAS IN

> LEO PERHAPS?

>

> The Nodes were in Pisces/Virgo, but transiting

> Sun as the troublesome 8L of obstructions and

> chronic illness was beginning to aspect your

> Mercury, then Venus, and then it's own Sun

> position on your birthday. Plus, transiting

> Mercury was aspecting your natal Sun as 8L

> at the same time. The 8L can indicate problems

> and flare-ups, but not always! There's always

> more than one transit that must be taken into

> account or one can falsely expect the worst at

> all times.

>

> SO HOW DO WE RECKON THEIR MOVEMENT

> FOR ATTACKS IN FUTURE??

>

> Well, after the Nodes finish their transit to your

> Sun and Moon, they move into Leo/Aquarius

> and aspect your Venus and Mercury going into

> January. So this is a good reason to do something

> positive in your outlook and in your physical care

> before those transits take place. If one just lives

> defensively waiting for the worst to happen, what

> kind of a life-style is that? What about being proactive

> in one's healthcare or in finding inner resources of

> faith and resolve that one might not have suspected?

> The choice is yours, otherwise life looks bleak and

> gets bleaker through passive resistance. While it's

> not easy, it still remains an option and can perhaps

> reduce the level of fear and suffering.

>

> 3. PRASANN 2: THIS SOUNDS GOOD AND

> INCIDENTALLY I HAVE QUITE OF BLUE IN

> MY WARDROBE...BUT OF LATE HAD OBSERVED

> MY LIKING FOR GREY!

>

> Well, just so you know, the smoky grey colors are

> given to the Nodes. Rahu and Ketu love grey and

> you might consider whether theirs is the best energy

> to feed. Speaking astrologically, in terms of color

> therapy, it is considered to be much more beneficial

> to wear clearly defined colors, such as navy blue

> for Saturn, royal blue for Venus, and emerald for

> Mercury. Opinions vary, but according to some

> astrologers, the favorable colors for Capricorn

> are bright black, white, bright brown, all shades

> of blue, green, and variegated colors (a mixture

> of colors). The unfavorable ones are steel grey,

> dull smoke grey, orange, pink, yellow, and faded

> colors.

>

> BUT HERE SOME ASTROLOGERS INCLUDING

> THE ONE WHO ADVISED SHUKRA YANTRA

> CUM STONE (A PENDANT) REFUSED TO

> STRENGTHEN SATURN THOUGH. BECAUSE

> I HAD MADE SIMILAR INFERENCE THAT IF

> SATURN IS BENEFIC AND IS MY LAGNA LORD

> THEN WHY NOT I STRENGTHEN IT? BECAUSE

> I ALSO SEE THIS AS ONE OF THE REASON FOR

> MY WEAK KNEES (MENISCUS RUPTURE) AND

> DENTAL PROBLEMS. BUT MAY BE BLUE

> SAPPHIRE IS A SCARY STONE IN INDIA.

>

> Again, opinions vary, but I have noticed that in

> charts where Saturn is strong by sign and has a

> strong dispositor, the person has sound bones

> and teeth. It's when Saturn is weak that it indicates

> problems with the teeth and bones; and a gem for

> Saturn is said to both strengthen it for good and to

> lessen its qualities as a natural malefic. But some

> astrologers are afraid to strengthen a natural malefic,

> such as Saturn or Mars, under any circumstances,

> believing that it makes these planets more malefic

> even if they rule the good houses of 1, 5, and 9. I am

> not of that opinion or there would never have been

> gems assigned to Mars and Saturn. Saturn can very

> often work for good! But it usually makes the person

> work like a dog in order to get its benefits. In your

> chart, Saturn is your ascendant lord and it limits

> you unless you are working on your health, which

> is one way of strengthening your Saturn.

>

> I WAS ADVISED TO WEAR A PENDANT OF SAFED

> PUKHRAJ (WHITE SAPPHIRE) AND

> AMETHYST PROBABLY FOR DEBILITATED

> JUPITER AND STRENGTHENING SATURN. I

> DID NOT WEAR THIS ONE. AS I AM ALREADY

> WEARING THE SHUKRA YANTRA.

>

> Again, opinions vary, but I consider Jupiter as

> 12L a functional malefic, and I never recommend

> a gem for any functional malefic planet. I feel that

> it adds to their power to cause harm. They seem

> to responds better to mantras and pujas to lessen

> their malefic intent. I would view your decision

> not to wear a Jupiter gem as a wise one. On the

> other hand, the Shukra mantra sounds fine because

> Venus can use the extra help, as it rules the sign of

> Taurus where Saturn is placed and makes both

> planets happier and stronger.

>

> ALSO I AM WEARING A PENDANT WHICH HAS

> PEARL,EMERALD AND RUDRAKSH IN IT. IS

> PEARL OKAY AND ANYWAYS I GUESS THEY

> WILL ASK ME TO WEAR DURING RAHU-MOON

>

> This would be fine in my view.

>

> AND DO YOU RECKON ME TAKING THE SHUKRA

> STONE-YANTRA OFF WHEN RAHU-SURYA COMES.

>

> Not necessarily--that is, if it's a good Shukra stone.

> High quality gems are the best and they can be very

> expensive. But if it's as flawless as possible, preferably

> unheated, the gem or or other Shukra talisman should

> be viewed as a plus.

>

> AND THEN SHOULD I WEAR SOMETHING OR

> IS SUN STRONG ENOUGH

> TO HANDLE RAHU.

>

> Never, in my opinion. Sun as 8L is the most malefic

> planet in your chart, and its transits helped set off

> your condition in March of 2005. Look at that period

> and see. Instead, the spiritual propitiation for the

> Sun is when you do something like helping your father

> or elderly men. So even if you do not see eye to eye

> with your father, it's good karma for you to do

> something for him, even if it's to say a prayer or

> mantra on his behalf. But no gem for the Sun, please.

>

> AND BELIEVE THAT IF RAHU IS REPRESENTING

> JUPITER HERE THEN THESE TWO ARE FRIENDS.

>

> Jupiter is debilitated and 12L of losses, expenses, and

> confinement. Plus it is afflicting your ascendant. I

> don't think this sounds like a friend to you. Plus

> when one functional malefic, Jupiter, combines

> its energy with the other trouble-maker malefics,

> Rahu and Ketu, they are a not friends either.

> This is why it's good to note when the transiting

> Nodes aspect your natal Jupiter, transiting Jupiter

> aspects your natal Nodes, or the transiting Nodes

> aspect transiting Jupiter. All three combinations

> would not be viewed as a friendly period for you,

> and you would want to look to the other functional

> benefic transits for protective energies, as from

> Saturn, Moon, Mercury and Venus.

>

> AS PER YOU WHAT IS CLOSEST TO-BE-ALERT

> SITUATION TO HAVE AN ATTACK OR SMTHG

>

> I think that's the wrong focus to take. I think a better

> approach to take is this: "What small measures can

> I take in my life to improve my faith, outlook and

> overall physical condition?" Otherwise you're just

> a sitting duck waiting for the next bad aspect from

> the Sun or the Nodes to perhaps worsen your

> condition.

>

> I WONDER NOW WHEN I TALK TO ASTROLOGERS

> NOW AFTER SHARING MS... ALL TALK ABOUT

> SEVERAL THINGS AND MARAK AND KASHTA

> AND MAHAMRITUANJAYA MANTRAS AND WHAT

> NOT... BUT A YEAR AGO NO ONE TOLD ME

> ANYTHING OF A CHRONIC AILMENT!!!!!! AS PER

> YOU STRAIGHT THERE IS A CHRONIC AILMENT?

>

> Astrologers not predicting a serious medical condition

> is the norm not the exception. If they actually saw it

> in the chart, how many astrologers would want

> to tell their clients that in a year from now they

> will be diagnosed with MS? I happen to feel that

> medical astrology is a specialty and these

> astrologers are the best one's to see potential

> serious health problems in the chart. But very

> few specialize in it, and in general it's not the

> astrologer's fault if he or she can't predict some

> of these trying conditions. It might not have made

> any difference in the life of the person coming

> down with the disease, if the disease is of a serious

> karma nature, and was destined to happen anyway.

> Nevertheless, this doesn't mean that astrology

> cannot be helpful after the fact, such as in the

> discussion we're having now. (I also happen to

> have a chronic health condition that was never

> predicted by any astrologer or psychic, and one

> happened to be an Indian astrologer and palmist.

> Even he missed it, and this was only about a year

> before the condition manifested.)

>

> AND THERE S NO CHANCE THAT MY MS

> COULD BE BENIGN? JUST A FEW ATTACKS

> AND ITS GONE NOW?

>

> I think you are the only one who can answer that,

> and you know enough about your chart to do so.

>

> AM I TO HAVE SOME DEBILITY...WHICH

> PART????

>

> I think you already know that too.

>

> ITS TOO EARLY FOR ME TO RETIRE....AND

> IN INDIA THERE IS NO INSURANCE

> COVERAGE TOO FOR THIS...…

>

> All the more not to surrender to despair or

> complete loss of faith. What Capricorn ascendant

> wants to leave life without its share of

> accomplishments?

>

> 4. PRASANN 2: ISNT MERCURY MALEFIC

> FOR ME??? BECAUSE IN FACT THAT WAS

> FIRST THING TO FOR ME TO OBSERVE

> THAT MERCURY IS WEAK OR AFFLICTED

> BY KETU THEN MAY BE WEARING AN

> EMERALD SHOULD HELP.

>

> For a Capricorn ascendant, Mercury plays a

> dual role as 9L of faith and good fortune and

> 6L of potential illness. I give the weight of

> Mercury to the 9L because Virgo is the

> mooltatrikona sign for Mercury--it's dominant

> sign--making it a functional benefic planet.

> Plus, Mercury, Venus and Saturn are friends

> and members of the same planetary camp.

> Nevertheless, Mercury relates to the nerves

> and rules the 6H of ill-health. BUT, once again,

> I would view Mercury's health-related problems

> to the fact that it is weak and afflicted, and not

> because it happens to also rule the 6H. Ketu's

> aspect to Mercury is one of the signatures for

> MS if Saturn and Venus happen to be weak or

> afflicted as well.

>

> BUT AGAIN THE SAME GUY WHO GAVE ME

> SHUKRA YANTRA SAID I SHOULD NOT WEAR

> EMERALD.

>

> He was probably scared off because Mercury

> rules the 6H as well as the 9H. But if you fail to

> strengthen Mercury, you may lose some of the

> spiritual benefits of faith and grace of the 9H,

> and that's why I happen to feel that Mercury

> (and Venus!) can always be safely strengthened

> for a Capricorn lagna.

>

> I DID TRY TELLING HIM COMPLETELY ABOUT

> MS...DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH HE

> UNDERSTOOD. IN FACT HE IS QUITE

> A SENIOR PRACTICING PERSON. ON

> ASKING FOR MY LIFE SPAN HE SAID IT

> TO BE MIDDLE AGED!!

>

> I happen to think that it's more important

> how well one lives than how long. On the other

> hand, it doesn't take a genius to realize that

> most serious health conditions can inhibit the

> longevity of one's life if passively endured.

>

> 6. PRASANN 2: MY IMMUNE RESPONSE

> RATHER GETS HYPERACTIVE, THUS

> ATTACK NERVES. SHOULD I SEE IT

> AS...RAHU- VENUS....ATTACKS ON EYES

> AND MS DIAGNOIS.…

>

> Eye concerns are related to 2H affairs and the

> weakness of Venus and the affliction of Ketu to

> Mercury and Saturn as a weak dispositor. That's

> why planetary remedies have been suggested to

> better help guide you from within through these

> transit periods.

>

> RAHU BALANCE MD (RAHU-SUN, RAHU-MOON,

> RAHU-MARS) CAUSES MORE ATTACKS WITH

> SHANI SADE SATI STARTING ON AND THUS I

> AM BOUND TO TAKE INTERFERONS AND THUS

> MY LIVER ETC IS AFFECTED AND I AM TO

> DEFINITELY BE HOSPITALIZED IN JUPITER-

> JUPITER PD. AND MAY BE JUPITER-SATURN

> LEADS TO SOME PERMANENT DEBILITY..…

> AND THEN IS SATURN MD.…

>

> I think you're projecting a very fearful and limiting

> future for yourself by focusing on these issues rather

> than what small measures you can take to improve

> your outlook and physical health, including your

> overall general health.

>

> WHAT IS THE SAFEST AND BEST THING THAT

> YOU ADVISE FOR ME FOR:

> RAHU-SUN

> RAHU-MOON

> RAHU-MARS

> JUPITER-JUPITER AND THE MD?

> APART FROM THE BELOW ONES...

>

> Meditation and prayer. But not the meditation of

> fear and apprehension; but rather, "Divine

> Intelligence, teach me from within what the

> lesson is here! What can I learn from this to

> add meaning to my life? What is the GIFT of

> this condition?" Otherwise, you're doing what?

> - watching for the next transit of Rahu and Ketu.

> The body heals at the alpha level of brain wave,

> and this is what meditation helps to do. (Look

> into the alpha work of Jose Silva for more

> information on the relationship between

> meditation and health.)

>

> HANDLING AND ANALYSING TRANSITS IS

> THE MOST DIFFICULT PART

>

> I would use them to get an overall sense of what

> they're doing, but not hand your life over to them

> out of fear. The mantra for Saturn has a way of

> connecting the person with the higher energy of

> this planet. The one I like the best is: OM SRI

> SHANAISWARAYA SWAHA, and it's available

> for anyone who wants to use it. It's one of the

> Saturn mantras for good health and healing.

>

> 7. YES THIS POINT IS BIT TEDIOUS FOR ME

> TO CALCULATE....AS I MENTIONED.

> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HELP ME OUT

> ON THIS. LIKE SUN'S ASPECT IN

> TRANSIT OR NATAL SUN? EG. IF RAHU

> IS TO TRANSIT INTO AQUARIUS THIS

> NOVEMBER 8, 2006 THAT MEANS THERE

> IS NO ASPECT OF SUN THERE BUT VENUS

> AND MERCURY ARE IN 2H IN THE SIGN

> OF AQUARIUS. AND BOTH THESE PLANETS

> AS WELL THE LORD SATURN ARE WEAK.

> SO PROBABLY AN ATTACK??.… BCOZ RAHU

> REMAINS IN A SIGN FOR 1.6 YRS I.E. APRIL

> 2008.

>

> What I suggest is that you just happen to track

> the transit of the Sun to your natal planets and

> particularly to Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu. Then just

> take it easier on those days without expecting a full

> blown attack. According to our expectations we

> can sometimes make matters worse and

> manufacture negative toxins in our body.

> The mind has great impact on the body, so

> it pays to focus on what we want to attract

> in life. Do we want to resist ill-health, or

> *attract* good health? Big difference.

>

> AND THEN AGAIN IT TRANSITS THROUGH

> MY LAGNA IE CAPRICORN WHERE

> JUPITER AND MARS (OCCUPANTS) AND

> LORD SATURN ARE ALL NOT ABLE TO DO

> GOOD...SO ANOTHER ATTACK??.....THOUGH

> SUN DOES NOT ASPECT THIS.

>

> These transits are way off in the future and a

> great deal can be done ahead of time to neutralize

> some of their negative effects.

>

> THEN TRANSITS SAGITTARIUS OCCUPIED

> BY HIMSELF...ANOTHER ATTACK??

>

> Another transit years away...

>

> (AND MAY BE THESE ATTACKS WILL PUSH

> ME FOR INTERFERONS AND THUS

> JUPITER IN ITS MD MAY GIVE MORE

> DAMAGE TO LIVER, NERVES, BLOOD.…….)

>

> Here are some options to look into that have

> helped many. I would also recommend acupuncture

> treatments for those with MS but only under a

> doctor's advisement. Resources:

>

> http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/Article.asp?Id=729

>

> SIMILARLY KETU IS TO COME IN SIGN LEO

> WHICH IS RULED BY SUN AND I DO

> NOT KNOW IF SUN IS ASPECTING IT. THEN

> TAURUS THEN ARIES..…

>

> Again, many months away. So you can either do

> what you can to come to terms with the weaknesses

> of your chart, and balance them out, or you can

> worry and fret about every major or minor

> transit that comes along. I couldn't live that

> way myself.

>

> 12. SO I GATHER THAT VENUS WAS

> OVERPOWERED BY RAHU AND MAY

> BE THIS MS THING HAPPENED....AND

> WEARING DIAMOND AND EMERALD AND

> MAY BE AMETHYST/BLUE SAPPHIRE SHOULD

> HELP ME...WHAT ABOUT SADE SATI ...WOULDNT

> IT BE BAD FOR MY PARENTS IF STRENGTHEN

> SATURN NOW?

>

> Not in my opinion, no. The sooner the better, and

> it needs to be a good gem, as flawless as possible,

> even if it's small. And there are alternative gems

> you can consider from any high quality gem dealer:

>

> http://www.astrologicalgem.com/

>

> (This is not an advertisement.)

>

> I SHOULD NOT WEAR YELLOW??

>

> Not recommended because it rules the 12H of losses

> and weakening influences. Plus, it also afflicts the

> degree of your ascendant and rules the 12H where

> malefic Rahu happens to reside. Work with Jupiter

> using mantras to bring yourself in harmony with

> its higher nature and without strengthening it for

> harm.

>

> IS SUN EVIL FOR ME? THEN RAHU-SUN

> WOULD BE BAD PERIOD...

>

> Sun is 8L of chronic illness and not considered

> a friendly planet for Capricorn rising. Rahu-Sun

> could indicate further disagreements with your

> parents that would be good karma for you to

> work out.

>

> AND SHANI SADE SATI AROUND THEN

> WOULD HELP OR WOULD MAKE IT WORSE?

>

> The effects of Sade Sati vary depending upon

> whether Saturn is friendly to your chart or not.

> Both Saturn and the Moon are friendly planets

> for you and this makes Sade Sati somewhat

> more manageable. Getting through Sade Sati

> is not the problem here; it's the basic strength

> of the natal planets and whatever you may

> plan to do about them. In my opinion, you are

> overemphasizing the importance of the transits

> at the expense of dealing with the health

> indications of MS in your natal chart. The

> natal chart is the key, not the transits. Otherwise,

> it's like looking through the wrong end of the

> telescope and getting a distorted view of life.

>

> THINK I SHOULD NOT WEAR ANYTHING

> FOR SUN...NOT REQUIRED ISNT IT?

>

> Not recommended for the reasons stated

> before: it's the most malefic planet for Capricorn

> rising as 8L of chronic illnesses.

>

> RAHU-MARS? WHAT IF I AM ADVISED TO

> WEAR RED CORAL THEN?? AND WHAT

> SHOULD I WEAR DURING COMPLETE JUPITER MD

>

> Strengthening the benefic planets of Saturn,

> Venus and Mercury help support the proper

> function of the functional malefic planets in

> one's chart, and it's generally not recommended

> to wear gems for the functional malefics. One

> astrologer's opinion.

>

> I MIGHT HAVE GONE OVERBOARD WITH

> MY ENDLESS QUESTIONS.

>

> It's okay. I happened to have had the time to

> complete our exchange.

>

> BUT I'M JUST JOSTLING TRYING TO

> IMPROVISE KARMA IF I COULD...

>

> Yes, you are...and I think it's wonderful. And

> if you have little faith for yourself, have it for

> others and serve them in unexpected ways to

> help break through this karma of health, if for

> this life-time or the next. For do we all not

> choose our charts? How did you happen to

> get that Jupiter? Or your Saturn placement?

> Or are we merely victims of fate living in a

> meaningless universe?

>

> As for myself, I have to view life and the

> universe as positive and meaningful or man

> would never have been given the wonderful

> tool of astrology to help understand his fate

> and activate his powers of choice and freewill.

>

> I DO CHARITIES TO THE NEEDY AND HELP

> PEOPLE...NOT REALLY MUCH INTO TEMPLES

> AND MANTRAS.

>

> I think this is exceptionally good karma for yourself.

>

> Sincere best wishes, Haizen

>

July 24, 2006

Dear,

Asking for opinion from 20 Doctors is going to create problem. Keeping

faith on one God is helpfull in solving all your problems.

Saturn and Sun cannot be enemies but just difference of opinions you

can say. Father and son cannot be enemies but just the father cannot

realise that the son has got same blood and same genetic defects and

same genetic plus points. Blood is same. Period.

If at one hand You see the difference between the week days alloted

to Father and Son at the other hand You should also see the

difference at end dissolves. Saturday Sunday come alternatively.

Dont be under the impresion that they are enemies/ Just maybe the

actions are different. One gives the energy to create.ANOHER GIVES

THE ENERGY TO PUNISH IF CREATION IS FAULTY. You think that the

problems You have are only solitary. Why do You keep coming asking

for clarifications which are unending on Your part ? Its not

becoming on your part to come with endless arguments. It shows You

have ample time to waste on contemplating on negatives. Please dont

mindmy utterations and come down to accepting Ypur fate as ordained

by God and also keep faith on what has been told to You.Why dont You

spend more time on meditating as per Your faith ? You are not the

only one with problems.,Go to hospitals nearby. You will find many

suffering from terminal illnesses. Why dont You help them instead ?

Regards,

Bhaskar.

-- In , "prasannman" <prasannman

wrote:

>

> Oops its going very lengthy.........And I deeply appreciate your

> patience. I think may it is the affect of Ketu on my moon sign that

I

> feel so emotional as I never was. I used to meditate, but now I can

> not.

> Well, actually I am not the kind of person who would sit and keep

> gazing into stars. You are right in telling that I am a workaholic

> and may be saturn makes me do that:

>

> I will just cut it short for now on 3 moot points:

>

> 1. As per Parashara, if sun and moon have lordship of 8th house

they

> are no malefics and should be seen that way. Also that 3H planet if

> is a malefic tends to shun off its malefic nature.

> The only point with which I feel that sun could be malefic is that

> yes I am a capricorn lagna and saturn and sun are enemies.

>

> 2. Well, actually with the following dasha also of debilitated

> jupiter I feel the case of Benign MS is not there. I am to have

> attacks and move around hospis.....as per the conditions of planets

> and dashas I envisage...would appreciate your view on this please

>

> 3. Actually to answer for debility I think sun affects eyes

primarily

> or may be the whole well being and the earlier two attacks I have

> already had on eyes...double vision and then later dim vision in

left

> eye...but 3H also reperesnts ear, chest....what say you for Rahu-

Sun

> period?

>

> Rgds

> Prasann

>

> , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prasann,

> >

> > I will try my best to answer your questions. I

> > tried to word the report to make it understandable,

> > as you have some background in the study of the

> > stars. So I am glad to have succeeded to whatever

> > extent.

> >

> > Writing PM for your birth time was a typo; AM was

> > used.

> >

> > If you are feeling detached and fearful, that may be

> > one of the lessons of your chart and life: to understand

> > fear and rebuild faith if possible. When Jupiter is

> > debilitated and the 9L of faith, and grace is weak

> > or afflicted, the person does not usually feel spiritually

> > or physically protected from negative unseen forces,

> > and I believe this is what you're experiencing. The irony

> > is that these are the people who usually need the grace

> > the most but are too disinclined or discouraged to

> > rebuild it or pursue it in themselves. But to do so can

> > feel like abandoning oneself to one's fate, and it's

> > possible that's what their life-time is partially about.

> > Spiritual remedies are about setting new positive

> > causes in motion--the product of free will--but if the

> > person is too tired and exhausted, there may be no

> > energy or motivation to do these practices. But if I

> > think that one way to rebuilt one's faith is to do these

> > spiritual practices on behalf of others -- that is, if there's

> > this feeling that nothing will make any difference in life

> > for the person with the illness.

> >

> > 1. PRASANN 2: WELL, I'M STAYING AWAY FROM

> > MY PARENTS, RAHU- KETU TRANSIT STAYS FOR

> > ABOUT 1.6 MONTHS IN A SIGN.

> >

> > Currently the Nodes are transiting both your Sun and

> > Moon, as karaka of your parents, and this can indicate

> > your desire to be away from them. This transit ends

> > when the Nodes move into Leo/Aquarius.

> >

> > NOW HOW DID I HAVE AN ATTACK IN MARCH

> > 2005??? KETU IS IN VIRGO ( MY MOON SIGN)

> > FOR NOW BUT IN MARCH 2005 IT WAS IN

> > LEO PERHAPS?

> >

> > The Nodes were in Pisces/Virgo, but transiting

> > Sun as the troublesome 8L of obstructions and

> > chronic illness was beginning to aspect your

> > Mercury, then Venus, and then it's own Sun

> > position on your birthday. Plus, transiting

> > Mercury was aspecting your natal Sun as 8L

> > at the same time. The 8L can indicate problems

> > and flare-ups, but not always! There's always

> > more than one transit that must be taken into

> > account or one can falsely expect the worst at

> > all times.

> >

> > SO HOW DO WE RECKON THEIR MOVEMENT

> > FOR ATTACKS IN FUTURE??

> >

> > Well, after the Nodes finish their transit to your

> > Sun and Moon, they move into Leo/Aquarius

> > and aspect your Venus and Mercury going into

> > January. So this is a good reason to do something

> > positive in your outlook and in your physical care

> > before those transits take place. If one just lives

> > defensively waiting for the worst to happen, what

> > kind of a life-style is that? What about being proactive

> > in one's healthcare or in finding inner resources of

> > faith and resolve that one might not have suspected?

> > The choice is yours, otherwise life looks bleak and

> > gets bleaker through passive resistance. While it's

> > not easy, it still remains an option and can perhaps

> > reduce the level of fear and suffering.

> >

> > 3. PRASANN 2: THIS SOUNDS GOOD AND

> > INCIDENTALLY I HAVE QUITE OF BLUE IN

> > MY WARDROBE...BUT OF LATE HAD OBSERVED

> > MY LIKING FOR GREY!

> >

> > Well, just so you know, the smoky grey colors are

> > given to the Nodes. Rahu and Ketu love grey and

> > you might consider whether theirs is the best energy

> > to feed. Speaking astrologically, in terms of color

> > therapy, it is considered to be much more beneficial

> > to wear clearly defined colors, such as navy blue

> > for Saturn, royal blue for Venus, and emerald for

> > Mercury. Opinions vary, but according to some

> > astrologers, the favorable colors for Capricorn

> > are bright black, white, bright brown, all shades

> > of blue, green, and variegated colors (a mixture

> > of colors). The unfavorable ones are steel grey,

> > dull smoke grey, orange, pink, yellow, and faded

> > colors.

> >

> > BUT HERE SOME ASTROLOGERS INCLUDING

> > THE ONE WHO ADVISED SHUKRA YANTRA

> > CUM STONE (A PENDANT) REFUSED TO

> > STRENGTHEN SATURN THOUGH. BECAUSE

> > I HAD MADE SIMILAR INFERENCE THAT IF

> > SATURN IS BENEFIC AND IS MY LAGNA LORD

> > THEN WHY NOT I STRENGTHEN IT? BECAUSE

> > I ALSO SEE THIS AS ONE OF THE REASON FOR

> > MY WEAK KNEES (MENISCUS RUPTURE) AND

> > DENTAL PROBLEMS. BUT MAY BE BLUE

> > SAPPHIRE IS A SCARY STONE IN INDIA.

> >

> > Again, opinions vary, but I have noticed that in

> > charts where Saturn is strong by sign and has a

> > strong dispositor, the person has sound bones

> > and teeth. It's when Saturn is weak that it indicates

> > problems with the teeth and bones; and a gem for

> > Saturn is said to both strengthen it for good and to

> > lessen its qualities as a natural malefic. But some

> > astrologers are afraid to strengthen a natural malefic,

> > such as Saturn or Mars, under any circumstances,

> > believing that it makes these planets more malefic

> > even if they rule the good houses of 1, 5, and 9. I am

> > not of that opinion or there would never have been

> > gems assigned to Mars and Saturn. Saturn can very

> > often work for good! But it usually makes the person

> > work like a dog in order to get its benefits. In your

> > chart, Saturn is your ascendant lord and it limits

> > you unless you are working on your health, which

> > is one way of strengthening your Saturn.

> >

> > I WAS ADVISED TO WEAR A PENDANT OF SAFED

> > PUKHRAJ (WHITE SAPPHIRE) AND

> > AMETHYST PROBABLY FOR DEBILITATED

> > JUPITER AND STRENGTHENING SATURN. I

> > DID NOT WEAR THIS ONE. AS I AM ALREADY

> > WEARING THE SHUKRA YANTRA.

> >

> > Again, opinions vary, but I consider Jupiter as

> > 12L a functional malefic, and I never recommend

> > a gem for any functional malefic planet. I feel that

> > it adds to their power to cause harm. They seem

> > to responds better to mantras and pujas to lessen

> > their malefic intent. I would view your decision

> > not to wear a Jupiter gem as a wise one. On the

> > other hand, the Shukra mantra sounds fine because

> > Venus can use the extra help, as it rules the sign of

> > Taurus where Saturn is placed and makes both

> > planets happier and stronger.

> >

> > ALSO I AM WEARING A PENDANT WHICH HAS

> > PEARL,EMERALD AND RUDRAKSH IN IT. IS

> > PEARL OKAY AND ANYWAYS I GUESS THEY

> > WILL ASK ME TO WEAR DURING RAHU-MOON

> >

> > This would be fine in my view.

> >

> > AND DO YOU RECKON ME TAKING THE SHUKRA

> > STONE-YANTRA OFF WHEN RAHU-SURYA COMES.

> >

> > Not necessarily--that is, if it's a good Shukra stone.

> > High quality gems are the best and they can be very

> > expensive. But if it's as flawless as possible, preferably

> > unheated, the gem or or other Shukra talisman should

> > be viewed as a plus.

> >

> > AND THEN SHOULD I WEAR SOMETHING OR

> > IS SUN STRONG ENOUGH

> > TO HANDLE RAHU.

> >

> > Never, in my opinion. Sun as 8L is the most malefic

> > planet in your chart, and its transits helped set off

> > your condition in March of 2005. Look at that period

> > and see. Instead, the spiritual propitiation for the

> > Sun is when you do something like helping your father

> > or elderly men. So even if you do not see eye to eye

> > with your father, it's good karma for you to do

> > something for him, even if it's to say a prayer or

> > mantra on his behalf. But no gem for the Sun, please.

> >

> > AND BELIEVE THAT IF RAHU IS REPRESENTING

> > JUPITER HERE THEN THESE TWO ARE FRIENDS.

> >

> > Jupiter is debilitated and 12L of losses, expenses, and

> > confinement. Plus it is afflicting your ascendant. I

> > don't think this sounds like a friend to you. Plus

> > when one functional malefic, Jupiter, combines

> > its energy with the other trouble-maker malefics,

> > Rahu and Ketu, they are a not friends either.

> > This is why it's good to note when the transiting

> > Nodes aspect your natal Jupiter, transiting Jupiter

> > aspects your natal Nodes, or the transiting Nodes

> > aspect transiting Jupiter. All three combinations

> > would not be viewed as a friendly period for you,

> > and you would want to look to the other functional

> > benefic transits for protective energies, as from

> > Saturn, Moon, Mercury and Venus.

> >

> > AS PER YOU WHAT IS CLOSEST TO-BE-ALERT

> > SITUATION TO HAVE AN ATTACK OR SMTHG

> >

> > I think that's the wrong focus to take. I think a better

> > approach to take is this: "What small measures can

> > I take in my life to improve my faith, outlook and

> > overall physical condition?" Otherwise you're just

> > a sitting duck waiting for the next bad aspect from

> > the Sun or the Nodes to perhaps worsen your

> > condition.

> >

> > I WONDER NOW WHEN I TALK TO ASTROLOGERS

> > NOW AFTER SHARING MS... ALL TALK ABOUT

> > SEVERAL THINGS AND MARAK AND KASHTA

> > AND MAHAMRITUANJAYA MANTRAS AND WHAT

> > NOT... BUT A YEAR AGO NO ONE TOLD ME

> > ANYTHING OF A CHRONIC AILMENT!!!!!! AS PER

> > YOU STRAIGHT THERE IS A CHRONIC AILMENT?

> >

> > Astrologers not predicting a serious medical condition

> > is the norm not the exception. If they actually saw it

> > in the chart, how many astrologers would want

> > to tell their clients that in a year from now they

> > will be diagnosed with MS? I happen to feel that

> > medical astrology is a specialty and these

> > astrologers are the best one's to see potential

> > serious health problems in the chart. But very

> > few specialize in it, and in general it's not the

> > astrologer's fault if he or she can't predict some

> > of these trying conditions. It might not have made

> > any difference in the life of the person coming

> > down with the disease, if the disease is of a serious

> > karma nature, and was destined to happen anyway.

> > Nevertheless, this doesn't mean that astrology

> > cannot be helpful after the fact, such as in the

> > discussion we're having now. (I also happen to

> > have a chronic health condition that was never

> > predicted by any astrologer or psychic, and one

> > happened to be an Indian astrologer and palmist.

> > Even he missed it, and this was only about a year

> > before the condition manifested.)

> >

> > AND THERE S NO CHANCE THAT MY MS

> > COULD BE BENIGN? JUST A FEW ATTACKS

> > AND ITS GONE NOW?

> >

> > I think you are the only one who can answer that,

> > and you know enough about your chart to do so.

> >

> > AM I TO HAVE SOME DEBILITY...WHICH

> > PART????

> >

> > I think you already know that too.

> >

> > ITS TOO EARLY FOR ME TO RETIRE....AND

> > IN INDIA THERE IS NO INSURANCE

> > COVERAGE TOO FOR THIS...…

> >

> > All the more not to surrender to despair or

> > complete loss of faith. What Capricorn ascendant

> > wants to leave life without its share of

> > accomplishments?

> >

> > 4. PRASANN 2: ISNT MERCURY MALEFIC

> > FOR ME??? BECAUSE IN FACT THAT WAS

> > FIRST THING TO FOR ME TO OBSERVE

> > THAT MERCURY IS WEAK OR AFFLICTED

> > BY KETU THEN MAY BE WEARING AN

> > EMERALD SHOULD HELP.

> >

> > For a Capricorn ascendant, Mercury plays a

> > dual role as 9L of faith and good fortune and

> > 6L of potential illness. I give the weight of

> > Mercury to the 9L because Virgo is the

> > mooltatrikona sign for Mercury--it's dominant

> > sign--making it a functional benefic planet.

> > Plus, Mercury, Venus and Saturn are friends

> > and members of the same planetary camp.

> > Nevertheless, Mercury relates to the nerves

> > and rules the 6H of ill-health. BUT, once again,

> > I would view Mercury's health-related problems

> > to the fact that it is weak and afflicted, and not

> > because it happens to also rule the 6H. Ketu's

> > aspect to Mercury is one of the signatures for

> > MS if Saturn and Venus happen to be weak or

> > afflicted as well.

> >

> > BUT AGAIN THE SAME GUY WHO GAVE ME

> > SHUKRA YANTRA SAID I SHOULD NOT WEAR

> > EMERALD.

> >

> > He was probably scared off because Mercury

> > rules the 6H as well as the 9H. But if you fail to

> > strengthen Mercury, you may lose some of the

> > spiritual benefits of faith and grace of the 9H,

> > and that's why I happen to feel that Mercury

> > (and Venus!) can always be safely strengthened

> > for a Capricorn lagna.

> >

> > I DID TRY TELLING HIM COMPLETELY ABOUT

> > MS...DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH HE

> > UNDERSTOOD. IN FACT HE IS QUITE

> > A SENIOR PRACTICING PERSON. ON

> > ASKING FOR MY LIFE SPAN HE SAID IT

> > TO BE MIDDLE AGED!!

> >

> > I happen to think that it's more important

> > how well one lives than how long. On the other

> > hand, it doesn't take a genius to realize that

> > most serious health conditions can inhibit the

> > longevity of one's life if passively endured.

> >

> > 6. PRASANN 2: MY IMMUNE RESPONSE

> > RATHER GETS HYPERACTIVE, THUS

> > ATTACK NERVES. SHOULD I SEE IT

> > AS...RAHU- VENUS....ATTACKS ON EYES

> > AND MS DIAGNOIS.…

> >

> > Eye concerns are related to 2H affairs and the

> > weakness of Venus and the affliction of Ketu to

> > Mercury and Saturn as a weak dispositor. That's

> > why planetary remedies have been suggested to

> > better help guide you from within through these

> > transit periods.

> >

> > RAHU BALANCE MD (RAHU-SUN, RAHU-MOON,

> > RAHU-MARS) CAUSES MORE ATTACKS WITH

> > SHANI SADE SATI STARTING ON AND THUS I

> > AM BOUND TO TAKE INTERFERONS AND THUS

> > MY LIVER ETC IS AFFECTED AND I AM TO

> > DEFINITELY BE HOSPITALIZED IN JUPITER-

> > JUPITER PD. AND MAY BE JUPITER-SATURN

> > LEADS TO SOME PERMANENT DEBILITY..…

> > AND THEN IS SATURN MD.…

> >

> > I think you're projecting a very fearful and limiting

> > future for yourself by focusing on these issues rather

> > than what small measures you can take to improve

> > your outlook and physical health, including your

> > overall general health.

> >

> > WHAT IS THE SAFEST AND BEST THING THAT

> > YOU ADVISE FOR ME FOR:

> > RAHU-SUN

> > RAHU-MOON

> > RAHU-MARS

> > JUPITER-JUPITER AND THE MD?

> > APART FROM THE BELOW ONES...

> >

> > Meditation and prayer. But not the meditation of

> > fear and apprehension; but rather, "Divine

> > Intelligence, teach me from within what the

> > lesson is here! What can I learn from this to

> > add meaning to my life? What is the GIFT of

> > this condition?" Otherwise, you're doing what?

> > - watching for the next transit of Rahu and Ketu.

> > The body heals at the alpha level of brain wave,

> > and this is what meditation helps to do. (Look

> > into the alpha work of Jose Silva for more

> > information on the relationship between

> > meditation and health.)

> >

> > HANDLING AND ANALYSING TRANSITS IS

> > THE MOST DIFFICULT PART

> >

> > I would use them to get an overall sense of what

> > they're doing, but not hand your life over to them

> > out of fear. The mantra for Saturn has a way of

> > connecting the person with the higher energy of

> > this planet. The one I like the best is: OM SRI

> > SHANAISWARAYA SWAHA, and it's available

> > for anyone who wants to use it. It's one of the

> > Saturn mantras for good health and healing.

> >

> > 7. YES THIS POINT IS BIT TEDIOUS FOR ME

> > TO CALCULATE....AS I MENTIONED.

> > WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HELP ME OUT

> > ON THIS. LIKE SUN'S ASPECT IN

> > TRANSIT OR NATAL SUN? EG. IF RAHU

> > IS TO TRANSIT INTO AQUARIUS THIS

> > NOVEMBER 8, 2006 THAT MEANS THERE

> > IS NO ASPECT OF SUN THERE BUT VENUS

> > AND MERCURY ARE IN 2H IN THE SIGN

> > OF AQUARIUS. AND BOTH THESE PLANETS

> > AS WELL THE LORD SATURN ARE WEAK.

> > SO PROBABLY AN ATTACK??.… BCOZ RAHU

> > REMAINS IN A SIGN FOR 1.6 YRS I.E. APRIL

> > 2008.

> >

> > What I suggest is that you just happen to track

> > the transit of the Sun to your natal planets and

> > particularly to Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu. Then just

> > take it easier on those days without expecting a full

> > blown attack. According to our expectations we

> > can sometimes make matters worse and

> > manufacture negative toxins in our body.

> > The mind has great impact on the body, so

> > it pays to focus on what we want to attract

> > in life. Do we want to resist ill-health, or

> > *attract* good health? Big difference.

> >

> > AND THEN AGAIN IT TRANSITS THROUGH

> > MY LAGNA IE CAPRICORN WHERE

> > JUPITER AND MARS (OCCUPANTS) AND

> > LORD SATURN ARE ALL NOT ABLE TO DO

> > GOOD...SO ANOTHER ATTACK??.....THOUGH

> > SUN DOES NOT ASPECT THIS.

> >

> > These transits are way off in the future and a

> > great deal can be done ahead of time to neutralize

> > some of their negative effects.

> >

> > THEN TRANSITS SAGITTARIUS OCCUPIED

> > BY HIMSELF...ANOTHER ATTACK??

> >

> > Another transit years away...

> >

> > (AND MAY BE THESE ATTACKS WILL PUSH

> > ME FOR INTERFERONS AND THUS

> > JUPITER IN ITS MD MAY GIVE MORE

> > DAMAGE TO LIVER, NERVES, BLOOD.…….)

> >

> > Here are some options to look into that have

> > helped many. I would also recommend acupuncture

> > treatments for those with MS but only under a

> > doctor's advisement. Resources:

> >

> > http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/Article.asp?Id=729

> >

> > SIMILARLY KETU IS TO COME IN SIGN LEO

> > WHICH IS RULED BY SUN AND I DO

> > NOT KNOW IF SUN IS ASPECTING IT. THEN

> > TAURUS THEN ARIES..…

> >

> > Again, many months away. So you can either do

> > what you can to come to terms with the weaknesses

> > of your chart, and balance them out, or you can

> > worry and fret about every major or minor

> > transit that comes along. I couldn't live that

> > way myself.

> >

> > 12. SO I GATHER THAT VENUS WAS

> > OVERPOWERED BY RAHU AND MAY

> > BE THIS MS THING HAPPENED....AND

> > WEARING DIAMOND AND EMERALD AND

> > MAY BE AMETHYST/BLUE SAPPHIRE SHOULD

> > HELP ME...WHAT ABOUT SADE SATI ...WOULDNT

> > IT BE BAD FOR MY PARENTS IF STRENGTHEN

> > SATURN NOW?

> >

> > Not in my opinion, no. The sooner the better, and

> > it needs to be a good gem, as flawless as possible,

> > even if it's small. And there are alternative gems

> > you can consider from any high quality gem dealer:

> >

> > http://www.astrologicalgem.com/

> >

> > (This is not an advertisement.)

> >

> > I SHOULD NOT WEAR YELLOW??

> >

> > Not recommended because it rules the 12H of losses

> > and weakening influences. Plus, it also afflicts the

> > degree of your ascendant and rules the 12H where

> > malefic Rahu happens to reside. Work with Jupiter

> > using mantras to bring yourself in harmony with

> > its higher nature and without strengthening it for

> > harm.

> >

> > IS SUN EVIL FOR ME? THEN RAHU-SUN

> > WOULD BE BAD PERIOD...

> >

> > Sun is 8L of chronic illness and not considered

> > a friendly planet for Capricorn rising. Rahu-Sun

> > could indicate further disagreements with your

> > parents that would be good karma for you to

> > work out.

> >

> > AND SHANI SADE SATI AROUND THEN

> > WOULD HELP OR WOULD MAKE IT WORSE?

> >

> > The effects of Sade Sati vary depending upon

> > whether Saturn is friendly to your chart or not.

> > Both Saturn and the Moon are friendly planets

> > for you and this makes Sade Sati somewhat

> > more manageable. Getting through Sade Sati

> > is not the problem here; it's the basic strength

> > of the natal planets and whatever you may

> > plan to do about them. In my opinion, you are

> > overemphasizing the importance of the transits

> > at the expense of dealing with the health

> > indications of MS in your natal chart. The

> > natal chart is the key, not the transits. Otherwise,

> > it's like looking through the wrong end of the

> > telescope and getting a distorted view of life.

> >

> > THINK I SHOULD NOT WEAR ANYTHING

> > FOR SUN...NOT REQUIRED ISNT IT?

> >

> > Not recommended for the reasons stated

> > before: it's the most malefic planet for Capricorn

> > rising as 8L of chronic illnesses.

> >

> > RAHU-MARS? WHAT IF I AM ADVISED TO

> > WEAR RED CORAL THEN?? AND WHAT

> > SHOULD I WEAR DURING COMPLETE JUPITER MD

> >

> > Strengthening the benefic planets of Saturn,

> > Venus and Mercury help support the proper

> > function of the functional malefic planets in

> > one's chart, and it's generally not recommended

> > to wear gems for the functional malefics. One

> > astrologer's opinion.

> >

> > I MIGHT HAVE GONE OVERBOARD WITH

> > MY ENDLESS QUESTIONS.

> >

> > It's okay. I happened to have had the time to

> > complete our exchange.

> >

> > BUT I'M JUST JOSTLING TRYING TO

> > IMPROVISE KARMA IF I COULD...

> >

> > Yes, you are...and I think it's wonderful. And

> > if you have little faith for yourself, have it for

> > others and serve them in unexpected ways to

> > help break through this karma of health, if for

> > this life-time or the next. For do we all not

> > choose our charts? How did you happen to

> > get that Jupiter? Or your Saturn placement?

> > Or are we merely victims of fate living in a

> > meaningless universe?

> >

> > As for myself, I have to view life and the

> > universe as positive and meaningful or man

> > would never have been given the wonderful

> > tool of astrology to help understand his fate

> > and activate his powers of choice and freewill.

> >

> > I DO CHARITIES TO THE NEEDY AND HELP

> > PEOPLE...NOT REALLY MUCH INTO TEMPLES

> > AND MANTRAS.

> >

> > I think this is exceptionally good karma for yourself.

> >

> > Sincere best wishes, Haizen

> >

>

July 24, 2006

Dear bhaskar ji

Wonderful explanation on saturn / sun.

Best remedy for troubling saturn is to serve father(sun). In my limited experience, I have found saturn / sun conjunction in my chart always gave some opportunities often through joint ventures.

regards / Prafulla Gang

After every "victory" you have more enemies.

>

> bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in

> Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:56:34 -0000

>

> Re: Debilitated Jupiter in Capricorn Lagna, Mars exalted-

> Multiple Sclerosis

>

> Dear,

>

> Asking for opinion from 20 Doctors is going to create problem. Keeping

> faith on one God is helpfull in solving all your problems.

> Saturn and Sun cannot be enemies but just difference of opinions you

> can say. Father and son cannot be enemies but just the father cannot

> realise that the son has got same blood and same genetic defects and

> same genetic plus points. Blood is same. Period.

> If at one hand You see the difference between the week days alloted

> to Father and Son at the other hand You should also see the

> difference at end dissolves. Saturday Sunday come alternatively.

> Dont be under the impresion that they are enemies/ Just maybe the

> actions are different. One gives the energy to create.ANOHER GIVES

> THE ENERGY TO PUNISH IF CREATION IS FAULTY. You think that the

> problems You have are only solitary. Why do You keep coming asking

> for clarifications which are unending on Your part ? Its not

> becoming on your part to come with endless arguments. It shows You

> have ample time to waste on contemplating on negatives. Please dont

> mindmy utterations and come down to accepting Ypur fate as ordained

> by God and also keep faith on what has been told to You.Why dont You

> spend more time on meditating as per Your faith ? You are not the

> only one with problems.,Go to hospitals nearby. You will find many

> suffering from terminal illnesses. Why dont You help them instead ?

>

> Regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

> -- In , "prasannman" <prasannman

> wrote:

>>

>> Oops its going very lengthy.........And I deeply appreciate your

>> patience. I think may it is the affect of Ketu on my moon sign that

> I

>> feel so emotional as I never was. I used to meditate, but now I can

>> not.

>> Well, actually I am not the kind of person who would sit and keep

>> gazing into stars. You are right in telling that I am a workaholic

>> and may be saturn makes me do that:

>>

>> I will just cut it short for now on 3 moot points:

>>

>> 1. As per Parashara, if sun and moon have lordship of 8th house

> they

>> are no malefics and should be seen that way. Also that 3H planet if

>> is a malefic tends to shun off its malefic nature.

>> The only point with which I feel that sun could be malefic is that

>> yes I am a capricorn lagna and saturn and sun are enemies.

>>

>> 2. Well, actually with the following dasha also of debilitated

>> jupiter I feel the case of Benign MS is not there. I am to have

>> attacks and move around hospis.....as per the conditions of planets

>> and dashas I envisage...would appreciate your view on this please

>>

>> 3. Actually to answer for debility I think sun affects eyes

> primarily

>> or may be the whole well being and the earlier two attacks I have

>> already had on eyes...double vision and then later dim vision in

> left

>> eye...but 3H also reperesnts ear, chest....what say you for Rahu-

> Sun

>> period?

>>

>> Rgds

>> Prasann

>>

>> , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear Prasann,

>>>

>>> I will try my best to answer your questions. I

>>> tried to word the report to make it understandable,

>>> as you have some background in the study of the

>>> stars. So I am glad to have succeeded to whatever

>>> extent.

>>>

>>> Writing PM for your birth time was a typo; AM was

>>> used.

>>>

>>> If you are feeling detached and fearful, that may be

>>> one of the lessons of your chart and life: to understand

>>> fear and rebuild faith if possible. When Jupiter is

>>> debilitated and the 9L of faith, and grace is weak

>>> or afflicted, the person does not usually feel spiritually

>>> or physically protected from negative unseen forces,

>>> and I believe this is what you're experiencing. The irony

>>> is that these are the people who usually need the grace

>>> the most but are too disinclined or discouraged to

>>> rebuild it or pursue it in themselves. But to do so can

>>> feel like abandoning oneself to one's fate, and it's

>>> possible that's what their life-time is partially about.

>>> Spiritual remedies are about setting new positive

>>> causes in motion--the product of free will--but if the

>>> person is too tired and exhausted, there may be no

>>> energy or motivation to do these practices. But if I

>>> think that one way to rebuilt one's faith is to do these

>>> spiritual practices on behalf of others -- that is, if there's

>>> this feeling that nothing will make any difference in life

>>> for the person with the illness.

>>>

>>> 1. PRASANN 2: WELL, I'M STAYING AWAY FROM

>>> MY PARENTS, RAHU- KETU TRANSIT STAYS FOR

>>> ABOUT 1.6 MONTHS IN A SIGN.

>>>

>>> Currently the Nodes are transiting both your Sun and

>>> Moon, as karaka of your parents, and this can indicate

>>> your desire to be away from them. This transit ends

>>> when the Nodes move into Leo/Aquarius.

>>>

>>> NOW HOW DID I HAVE AN ATTACK IN MARCH

>>> 2005??? KETU IS IN VIRGO ( MY MOON SIGN)

>>> FOR NOW BUT IN MARCH 2005 IT WAS IN

>>> LEO PERHAPS?

>>>

>>> The Nodes were in Pisces/Virgo, but transiting

>>> Sun as the troublesome 8L of obstructions and

>>> chronic illness was beginning to aspect your

>>> Mercury, then Venus, and then it's own Sun

>>> position on your birthday. Plus, transiting

>>> Mercury was aspecting your natal Sun as 8L

>>> at the same time. The 8L can indicate problems

>>> and flare-ups, but not always! There's always

>>> more than one transit that must be taken into

>>> account or one can falsely expect the worst at

>>> all times.

>>>

>>> SO HOW DO WE RECKON THEIR MOVEMENT

>>> FOR ATTACKS IN FUTURE??

>>>

>>> Well, after the Nodes finish their transit to your

>>> Sun and Moon, they move into Leo/Aquarius

>>> and aspect your Venus and Mercury going into

>>> January. So this is a good reason to do something

>>> positive in your outlook and in your physical care

>>> before those transits take place. If one just lives

>>> defensively waiting for the worst to happen, what

>>> kind of a life-style is that? What about being proactive

>>> in one's healthcare or in finding inner resources of

>>> faith and resolve that one might not have suspected?

>>> The choice is yours, otherwise life looks bleak and

>>> gets bleaker through passive resistance. While it's

>>> not easy, it still remains an option and can perhaps

>>> reduce the level of fear and suffering.

>>>

>>> 3. PRASANN 2: THIS SOUNDS GOOD AND

>>> INCIDENTALLY I HAVE QUITE OF BLUE IN

>>> MY WARDROBE...BUT OF LATE HAD OBSERVED

>>> MY LIKING FOR GREY!

>>>

>>> Well, just so you know, the smoky grey colors are

>>> given to the Nodes. Rahu and Ketu love grey and

>>> you might consider whether theirs is the best energy

>>> to feed. Speaking astrologically, in terms of color

>>> therapy, it is considered to be much more beneficial

>>> to wear clearly defined colors, such as navy blue

>>> for Saturn, royal blue for Venus, and emerald for

>>> Mercury. Opinions vary, but according to some

>>> astrologers, the favorable colors for Capricorn

>>> are bright black, white, bright brown, all shades

>>> of blue, green, and variegated colors (a mixture

>>> of colors). The unfavorable ones are steel grey,

>>> dull smoke grey, orange, pink, yellow, and faded

>>> colors.

>>>

>>> BUT HERE SOME ASTROLOGERS INCLUDING

>>> THE ONE WHO ADVISED SHUKRA YANTRA

>>> CUM STONE (A PENDANT) REFUSED TO

>>> STRENGTHEN SATURN THOUGH. BECAUSE

>>> I HAD MADE SIMILAR INFERENCE THAT IF

>>> SATURN IS BENEFIC AND IS MY LAGNA LORD

>>> THEN WHY NOT I STRENGTHEN IT? BECAUSE

>>> I ALSO SEE THIS AS ONE OF THE REASON FOR

>>> MY WEAK KNEES (MENISCUS RUPTURE) AND

>>> DENTAL PROBLEMS. BUT MAY BE BLUE

>>> SAPPHIRE IS A SCARY STONE IN INDIA.

>>>

>>> Again, opinions vary, but I have noticed that in

>>> charts where Saturn is strong by sign and has a

>>> strong dispositor, the person has sound bones

>>> and teeth. It's when Saturn is weak that it indicates

>>> problems with the teeth and bones; and a gem for

>>> Saturn is said to both strengthen it for good and to

>>> lessen its qualities as a natural malefic. But some

>>> astrologers are afraid to strengthen a natural malefic,

>>> such as Saturn or Mars, under any circumstances,

>>> believing that it makes these planets more malefic

>>> even if they rule the good houses of 1, 5, and 9. I am

>>> not of that opinion or there would never have been

>>> gems assigned to Mars and Saturn. Saturn can very

>>> often work for good! But it usually makes the person

>>> work like a dog in order to get its benefits. In your

>>> chart, Saturn is your ascendant lord and it limits

>>> you unless you are working on your health, which

>>> is one way of strengthening your Saturn.

>>>

>>> I WAS ADVISED TO WEAR A PENDANT OF SAFED

>>> PUKHRAJ (WHITE SAPPHIRE) AND

>>> AMETHYST PROBABLY FOR DEBILITATED

>>> JUPITER AND STRENGTHENING SATURN. I

>>> DID NOT WEAR THIS ONE. AS I AM ALREADY

>>> WEARING THE SHUKRA YANTRA.

>>>

>>> Again, opinions vary, but I consider Jupiter as

>>> 12L a functional malefic, and I never recommend

>>> a gem for any functional malefic planet. I feel that

>>> it adds to their power to cause harm. They seem

>>> to responds better to mantras and pujas to lessen

>>> their malefic intent. I would view your decision

>>> not to wear a Jupiter gem as a wise one. On the

>>> other hand, the Shukra mantra sounds fine because

>>> Venus can use the extra help, as it rules the sign of

>>> Taurus where Saturn is placed and makes both

>>> planets happier and stronger.

>>>

>>> ALSO I AM WEARING A PENDANT WHICH HAS

>>> PEARL,EMERALD AND RUDRAKSH IN IT. IS

>>> PEARL OKAY AND ANYWAYS I GUESS THEY

>>> WILL ASK ME TO WEAR DURING RAHU-MOON

>>>

>>> This would be fine in my view.

>>>

>>> AND DO YOU RECKON ME TAKING THE SHUKRA

>>> STONE-YANTRA OFF WHEN RAHU-SURYA COMES.

>>>

>>> Not necessarily--that is, if it's a good Shukra stone.

>>> High quality gems are the best and they can be very

>>> expensive. But if it's as flawless as possible, preferably

>>> unheated, the gem or or other Shukra talisman should

>>> be viewed as a plus.

>>>

>>> AND THEN SHOULD I WEAR SOMETHING OR

>>> IS SUN STRONG ENOUGH

>>> TO HANDLE RAHU.

>>>

>>> Never, in my opinion. Sun as 8L is the most malefic

>>> planet in your chart, and its transits helped set off

>>> your condition in March of 2005. Look at that period

>>> and see. Instead, the spiritual propitiation for the

>>> Sun is when you do something like helping your father

>>> or elderly men. So even if you do not see eye to eye

>>> with your father, it's good karma for you to do

>>> something for him, even if it's to say a prayer or

>>> mantra on his behalf. But no gem for the Sun, please.

>>>

>>> AND BELIEVE THAT IF RAHU IS REPRESENTING

>>> JUPITER HERE THEN THESE TWO ARE FRIENDS.

>>>

>>> Jupiter is debilitated and 12L of losses, expenses, and

>>> confinement. Plus it is afflicting your ascendant. I

>>> don't think this sounds like a friend to you. Plus

>>> when one functional malefic, Jupiter, combines

>>> its energy with the other trouble-maker malefics,

>>> Rahu and Ketu, they are a not friends either.

>>> This is why it's good to note when the transiting

>>> Nodes aspect your natal Jupiter, transiting Jupiter

>>> aspects your natal Nodes, or the transiting Nodes

>>> aspect transiting Jupiter. All three combinations

>>> would not be viewed as a friendly period for you,

>>> and you would want to look to the other functional

>>> benefic transits for protective energies, as from

>>> Saturn, Moon, Mercury and Venus.

>>>

>>> AS PER YOU WHAT IS CLOSEST TO-BE-ALERT

>>> SITUATION TO HAVE AN ATTACK OR SMTHG

>>>

>>> I think that's the wrong focus to take. I think a better

>>> approach to take is this: "What small measures can

>>> I take in my life to improve my faith, outlook and

>>> overall physical condition?" Otherwise you're just

>>> a sitting duck waiting for the next bad aspect from

>>> the Sun or the Nodes to perhaps worsen your

>>> condition.

>>>

>>> I WONDER NOW WHEN I TALK TO ASTROLOGERS

>>> NOW AFTER SHARING MS... ALL TALK ABOUT

>>> SEVERAL THINGS AND MARAK AND KASHTA

>>> AND MAHAMRITUANJAYA MANTRAS AND WHAT

>>> NOT... BUT A YEAR AGO NO ONE TOLD ME

>>> ANYTHING OF A CHRONIC AILMENT!!!!!! AS PER

>>> YOU STRAIGHT THERE IS A CHRONIC AILMENT?

>>>

>>> Astrologers not predicting a serious medical condition

>>> is the norm not the exception. If they actually saw it

>>> in the chart, how many astrologers would want

>>> to tell their clients that in a year from now they

>>> will be diagnosed with MS? I happen to feel that

>>> medical astrology is a specialty and these

>>> astrologers are the best one's to see potential

>>> serious health problems in the chart. But very

>>> few specialize in it, and in general it's not the

>>> astrologer's fault if he or she can't predict some

>>> of these trying conditions. It might not have made

>>> any difference in the life of the person coming

>>> down with the disease, if the disease is of a serious

>>> karma nature, and was destined to happen anyway.

>>> Nevertheless, this doesn't mean that astrology

>>> cannot be helpful after the fact, such as in the

>>> discussion we're having now. (I also happen to

>>> have a chronic health condition that was never

>>> predicted by any astrologer or psychic, and one

>>> happened to be an Indian astrologer and palmist.

>>> Even he missed it, and this was only about a year

>>> before the condition manifested.)

>>>

>>> AND THERE S NO CHANCE THAT MY MS

>>> COULD BE BENIGN? JUST A FEW ATTACKS

>>> AND ITS GONE NOW?

>>>

>>> I think you are the only one who can answer that,

>>> and you know enough about your chart to do so.

>>>

>>> AM I TO HAVE SOME DEBILITY...WHICH

>>> PART????

>>>

>>> I think you already know that too.

>>>

>>> ITS TOO EARLY FOR ME TO RETIRE....AND

>>> IN INDIA THERE IS NO INSURANCE

>>> COVERAGE TOO FOR THIS...Â…

>>>

>>> All the more not to surrender to despair or

>>> complete loss of faith. What Capricorn ascendant

>>> wants to leave life without its share of

>>> accomplishments?

>>>

>>> 4. PRASANN 2: ISNT MERCURY MALEFIC

>>> FOR ME??? BECAUSE IN FACT THAT WAS

>>> FIRST THING TO FOR ME TO OBSERVE

>>> THAT MERCURY IS WEAK OR AFFLICTED

>>> BY KETU THEN MAY BE WEARING AN

>>> EMERALD SHOULD HELP.

>>>

>>> For a Capricorn ascendant, Mercury plays a

>>> dual role as 9L of faith and good fortune and

>>> 6L of potential illness. I give the weight of

>>> Mercury to the 9L because Virgo is the

>>> mooltatrikona sign for Mercury--it's dominant

>>> sign--making it a functional benefic planet.

>>> Plus, Mercury, Venus and Saturn are friends

>>> and members of the same planetary camp.

>>> Nevertheless, Mercury relates to the nerves

>>> and rules the 6H of ill-health. BUT, once again,

>>> I would view Mercury's health-related problems

>>> to the fact that it is weak and afflicted, and not

>>> because it happens to also rule the 6H. Ketu's

>>> aspect to Mercury is one of the signatures for

>>> MS if Saturn and Venus happen to be weak or

>>> afflicted as well.

>>>

>>> BUT AGAIN THE SAME GUY WHO GAVE ME

>>> SHUKRA YANTRA SAID I SHOULD NOT WEAR

>>> EMERALD.

>>>

>>> He was probably scared off because Mercury

>>> rules the 6H as well as the 9H. But if you fail to

>>> strengthen Mercury, you may lose some of the

>>> spiritual benefits of faith and grace of the 9H,

>>> and that's why I happen to feel that Mercury

>>> (and Venus!) can always be safely strengthened

>>> for a Capricorn lagna.

>>>

>>> I DID TRY TELLING HIM COMPLETELY ABOUT

>>> MS...DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH HE

>>> UNDERSTOOD. IN FACT HE IS QUITE

>>> A SENIOR PRACTICING PERSON. ON

>>> ASKING FOR MY LIFE SPAN HE SAID IT

>>> TO BE MIDDLE AGED!!

>>>

>>> I happen to think that it's more important

>>> how well one lives than how long. On the other

>>> hand, it doesn't take a genius to realize that

>>> most serious health conditions can inhibit the

>>> longevity of one's life if passively endured.

>>>

>>> 6. PRASANN 2: MY IMMUNE RESPONSE

>>> RATHER GETS HYPERACTIVE, THUS

>>> ATTACK NERVES. SHOULD I SEE IT

>>> AS...RAHU- VENUS....ATTACKS ON EYES

>>> AND MS DIAGNOIS.Â…

>>>

>>> Eye concerns are related to 2H affairs and the

>>> weakness of Venus and the affliction of Ketu to

>>> Mercury and Saturn as a weak dispositor. That's

>>> why planetary remedies have been suggested to

>>> better help guide you from within through these

>>> transit periods.

>>>

>>> RAHU BALANCE MD (RAHU-SUN, RAHU-MOON,

>>> RAHU-MARS) CAUSES MORE ATTACKS WITH

>>> SHANI SADE SATI STARTING ON AND THUS I

>>> AM BOUND TO TAKE INTERFERONS AND THUS

>>> MY LIVER ETC IS AFFECTED AND I AM TO

>>> DEFINITELY BE HOSPITALIZED IN JUPITER-

>>> JUPITER PD. AND MAY BE JUPITER-SATURN

>>> LEADS TO SOME PERMANENT DEBILITY..Â…

>>> AND THEN IS SATURN MD.Â…

>>>

>>> I think you're projecting a very fearful and limiting

>>> future for yourself by focusing on these issues rather

>>> than what small measures you can take to improve

>>> your outlook and physical health, including your

>>> overall general health.

>>>

>>> WHAT IS THE SAFEST AND BEST THING THAT

>>> YOU ADVISE FOR ME FOR:

>>> RAHU-SUN

>>> RAHU-MOON

>>> RAHU-MARS

>>> JUPITER-JUPITER AND THE MD?

>>> APART FROM THE BELOW ONES...

>>>

>>> Meditation and prayer. But not the meditation of

>>> fear and apprehension; but rather, "Divine

>>> Intelligence, teach me from within what the

>>> lesson is here! What can I learn from this to

>>> add meaning to my life? What is the GIFT of

>>> this condition?" Otherwise, you're doing what?

>>> - watching for the next transit of Rahu and Ketu.

>>> The body heals at the alpha level of brain wave,

>>> and this is what meditation helps to do. (Look

>>> into the alpha work of Jose Silva for more

>>> information on the relationship between

>>> meditation and health.)

>>>

>>> HANDLING AND ANALYSING TRANSITS IS

>>> THE MOST DIFFICULT PART

>>>

>>> I would use them to get an overall sense of what

>>> they're doing, but not hand your life over to them

>>> out of fear. The mantra for Saturn has a way of

>>> connecting the person with the higher energy of

>>> this planet. The one I like the best is: OM SRI

>>> SHANAISWARAYA SWAHA, and it's available

>>> for anyone who wants to use it. It's one of the

>>> Saturn mantras for good health and healing.

>>>

>>> 7. YES THIS POINT IS BIT TEDIOUS FOR ME

>>> TO CALCULATE....AS I MENTIONED.

>>> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HELP ME OUT

>>> ON THIS. LIKE SUN'S ASPECT IN

>>> TRANSIT OR NATAL SUN? EG. IF RAHU

>>> IS TO TRANSIT INTO AQUARIUS THIS

>>> NOVEMBER 8, 2006 THAT MEANS THERE

>>> IS NO ASPECT OF SUN THERE BUT VENUS

>>> AND MERCURY ARE IN 2H IN THE SIGN

>>> OF AQUARIUS. AND BOTH THESE PLANETS

>>> AS WELL THE LORD SATURN ARE WEAK.

>>> SO PROBABLY AN ATTACK??.Â… BCOZ RAHU

>>> REMAINS IN A SIGN FOR 1.6 YRS I.E. APRIL

>>> 2008.

>>>

>>> What I suggest is that you just happen to track

>>> the transit of the Sun to your natal planets and

>>> particularly to Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu. Then just

>>> take it easier on those days without expecting a full

>>> blown attack. According to our expectations we

>>> can sometimes make matters worse and

>>> manufacture negative toxins in our body.

>>> The mind has great impact on the body, so

>>> it pays to focus on what we want to attract

>>> in life. Do we want to resist ill-health, or

>>> *attract* good health? Big difference.

>>>

>>> AND THEN AGAIN IT TRANSITS THROUGH

>>> MY LAGNA IE CAPRICORN WHERE

>>> JUPITER AND MARS (OCCUPANTS) AND

>>> LORD SATURN ARE ALL NOT ABLE TO DO

>>> GOOD...SO ANOTHER ATTACK??.....THOUGH

>>> SUN DOES NOT ASPECT THIS.

>>>

>>> These transits are way off in the future and a

>>> great deal can be done ahead of time to neutralize

>>> some of their negative effects.

>>>

>>> THEN TRANSITS SAGITTARIUS OCCUPIED

>>> BY HIMSELF...ANOTHER ATTACK??

>>>

>>> Another transit years away...

>>>

>>> (AND MAY BE THESE ATTACKS WILL PUSH

>>> ME FOR INTERFERONS AND THUS

>>> JUPITER IN ITS MD MAY GIVE MORE

>>> DAMAGE TO LIVER, NERVES, BLOOD.Â…Â….)

>>>

>>> Here are some options to look into that have

>>> helped many. I would also recommend acupuncture

>>> treatments for those with MS but only under a

>>> doctor's advisement. Resources:

>>>

>>> http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/Article.asp?Id=729

>>>

>>> SIMILARLY KETU IS TO COME IN SIGN LEO

>>> WHICH IS RULED BY SUN AND I DO

>>> NOT KNOW IF SUN IS ASPECTING IT. THEN

>>> TAURUS THEN ARIES..Â…

>>>

>>> Again, many months away. So you can either do

>>> what you can to come to terms with the weaknesses

>>> of your chart, and balance them out, or you can

>>> worry and fret about every major or minor

>>> transit that comes along. I couldn't live that

>>> way myself.

>>>

>>> 12. SO I GATHER THAT VENUS WAS

>>> OVERPOWERED BY RAHU AND MAY

>>> BE THIS MS THING HAPPENED....AND

>>> WEARING DIAMOND AND EMERALD AND

>>> MAY BE AMETHYST/BLUE SAPPHIRE SHOULD

>>> HELP ME...WHAT ABOUT SADE SATI ...WOULDNT

>>> IT BE BAD FOR MY PARENTS IF STRENGTHEN

>>> SATURN NOW?

>>>

>>> Not in my opinion, no. The sooner the better, and

>>> it needs to be a good gem, as flawless as possible,

>>> even if it's small. And there are alternative gems

>>> you can consider from any high quality gem dealer:

>>>

>>> http://www.astrologicalgem.com/

>>>

>>> (This is not an advertisement.)

>>>

>>> I SHOULD NOT WEAR YELLOW??

>>>

>>> Not recommended because it rules the 12H of losses

>>> and weakening influences. Plus, it also afflicts the

>>> degree of your ascendant and rules the 12H where

>>> malefic Rahu happens to reside. Work with Jupiter

>>> using mantras to bring yourself in harmony with

>>> its higher nature and without strengthening it for

>>> harm.

>>>

>>> IS SUN EVIL FOR ME? THEN RAHU-SUN

>>> WOULD BE BAD PERIOD...

>>>

>>> Sun is 8L of chronic illness and not considered

>>> a friendly planet for Capricorn rising. Rahu-Sun

>>> could indicate further disagreements with your

>>> parents that would be good karma for you to

>>> work out.

>>>

>>> AND SHANI SADE SATI AROUND THEN

>>> WOULD HELP OR WOULD MAKE IT WORSE?

>>>

>>> The effects of Sade Sati vary depending upon

>>> whether Saturn is friendly to your chart or not.

>>> Both Saturn and the Moon are friendly planets

>>> for you and this makes Sade Sati somewhat

>>> more manageable. Getting through Sade Sati

>>> is not the problem here; it's the basic strength

>>> of the natal planets and whatever you may

>>> plan to do about them. In my opinion, you are

>>> overemphasizing the importance of the transits

>>> at the expense of dealing with the health

>>> indications of MS in your natal chart. The

>>> natal chart is the key, not the transits. Otherwise,

>>> it's like looking through the wrong end of the

>>> telescope and getting a distorted view of life.

>>>

>>> THINK I SHOULD NOT WEAR ANYTHING

>>> FOR SUN...NOT REQUIRED ISNT IT?

>>>

>>> Not recommended for the reasons stated

>>> before: it's the most malefic planet for Capricorn

>>> rising as 8L of chronic illnesses.

>>>

>>> RAHU-MARS? WHAT IF I AM ADVISED TO

>>> WEAR RED CORAL THEN?? AND WHAT

>>> SHOULD I WEAR DURING COMPLETE JUPITER MD

>>>

>>> Strengthening the benefic planets of Saturn,

>>> Venus and Mercury help support the proper

>>> function of the functional malefic planets in

>>> one's chart, and it's generally not recommended

>>> to wear gems for the functional malefics. One

>>> astrologer's opinion.

>>>

>>> I MIGHT HAVE GONE OVERBOARD WITH

>>> MY ENDLESS QUESTIONS.

>>>

>>> It's okay. I happened to have had the time to

>>> complete our exchange.

>>>

>>> BUT I'M JUST JOSTLING TRYING TO

>>> IMPROVISE KARMA IF I COULD...

>>>

>>> Yes, you are...and I think it's wonderful. And

>>> if you have little faith for yourself, have it for

>>> others and serve them in unexpected ways to

>>> help break through this karma of health, if for

>>> this life-time or the next. For do we all not

>>> choose our charts? How did you happen to

>>> get that Jupiter? Or your Saturn placement?

>>> Or are we merely victims of fate living in a

>>> meaningless universe?

>>>

>>> As for myself, I have to view life and the

>>> universe as positive and meaningful or man

>>> would never have been given the wonderful

>>> tool of astrology to help understand his fate

>>> and activate his powers of choice and freewill.

>>>

>>> I DO CHARITIES TO THE NEEDY AND HELP

>>> PEOPLE...NOT REALLY MUCH INTO TEMPLES

>>> AND MANTRAS.

>>>

>>> I think this is exceptionally good karma for yourself.

>>>

>>> Sincere best wishes, Haizen

>>>

>>

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July 24, 2006

Shri Prafullji,

I have found in many cases conjunction and opposition (7th aspect 180

degrees +- 8 degrees) give same effect.Like persons born in Amavasya

and Purnima will certainly have some traits similiar maybe negative

or positive. And You are right I too have found joint ventures

becoming more rewarding than proprietorship in my life.For me birth

was Purnima. So again first hand experience.

Bhaskar.

-- In , Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear bhaskar ji

>

> Wonderful explanation on saturn / sun.

>

> Best remedy for troubling saturn is to serve father(sun). In my

limited experience, I have found saturn / sun conjunction in my chart

always gave some opportunities often through joint ventures.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> After every "victory" you have more enemies.

>

> >

> > bhaskar_jyotish

> > Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:56:34 -0000

> >

> > Re: Debilitated Jupiter in Capricorn Lagna, Mars

exalted-

> > Multiple Sclerosis

> >

> > Dear,

> >

> > Asking for opinion from 20 Doctors is going to create problem.

Keeping

> > faith on one God is helpfull in solving all your problems.

> > Saturn and Sun cannot be enemies but just difference of opinions

you

> > can say. Father and son cannot be enemies but just the father

cannot

> > realise that the son has got same blood and same genetic defects

and

> > same genetic plus points. Blood is same. Period.

> > If at one hand You see the difference between the week days

alloted

> > to Father and Son at the other hand You should also see the

> > difference at end dissolves. Saturday Sunday come alternatively.

> > Dont be under the impresion that they are enemies/ Just maybe the

> > actions are different. One gives the energy to create.ANOHER GIVES

> > THE ENERGY TO PUNISH IF CREATION IS FAULTY. You think that the

> > problems You have are only solitary. Why do You keep coming asking

> > for clarifications which are unending on Your part ? Its not

> > becoming on your part to come with endless arguments. It shows You

> > have ample time to waste on contemplating on negatives. Please

dont

> > mindmy utterations and come down to accepting Ypur fate as

ordained

> > by God and also keep faith on what has been told to You.Why dont

You

> > spend more time on meditating as per Your faith ? You are not the

> > only one with problems.,Go to hospitals nearby. You will find many

> > suffering from terminal illnesses. Why dont You help them

instead ?

> >

> > Regards,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > -- In , "prasannman" <prasannman@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Oops its going very lengthy.........And I deeply appreciate your

> >> patience. I think may it is the affect of Ketu on my moon sign

that

> > I

> >> feel so emotional as I never was. I used to meditate, but now I

can

> >> not.

> >> Well, actually I am not the kind of person who would sit and keep

> >> gazing into stars. You are right in telling that I am a

workaholic

> >> and may be saturn makes me do that:

> >>

> >> I will just cut it short for now on 3 moot points:

> >>

> >> 1. As per Parashara, if sun and moon have lordship of 8th house

> > they

> >> are no malefics and should be seen that way. Also that 3H planet

if

> >> is a malefic tends to shun off its malefic nature.

> >> The only point with which I feel that sun could be malefic is

that

> >> yes I am a capricorn lagna and saturn and sun are enemies.

> >>

> >> 2. Well, actually with the following dasha also of debilitated

> >> jupiter I feel the case of Benign MS is not there. I am to have

> >> attacks and move around hospis.....as per the conditions of

planets

> >> and dashas I envisage...would appreciate your view on this please

> >>

> >> 3. Actually to answer for debility I think sun affects eyes

> > primarily

> >> or may be the whole well being and the earlier two attacks I have

> >> already had on eyes...double vision and then later dim vision in

> > left

> >> eye...but 3H also reperesnts ear, chest....what say you for Rahu-

> > Sun

> >> period?

> >>

> >> Rgds

> >> Prasann

> >>

> >> , "haizen" <haizen@>

wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Dear Prasann,

> >>>

> >>> I will try my best to answer your questions. I

> >>> tried to word the report to make it understandable,

> >>> as you have some background in the study of the

> >>> stars. So I am glad to have succeeded to whatever

> >>> extent.

> >>>

> >>> Writing PM for your birth time was a typo; AM was

> >>> used.

> >>>

> >>> If you are feeling detached and fearful, that may be

> >>> one of the lessons of your chart and life: to understand

> >>> fear and rebuild faith if possible. When Jupiter is

> >>> debilitated and the 9L of faith, and grace is weak

> >>> or afflicted, the person does not usually feel spiritually

> >>> or physically protected from negative unseen forces,

> >>> and I believe this is what you're experiencing. The irony

> >>> is that these are the people who usually need the grace

> >>> the most but are too disinclined or discouraged to

> >>> rebuild it or pursue it in themselves. But to do so can

> >>> feel like abandoning oneself to one's fate, and it's

> >>> possible that's what their life-time is partially about.

> >>> Spiritual remedies are about setting new positive

> >>> causes in motion--the product of free will--but if the

> >>> person is too tired and exhausted, there may be no

> >>> energy or motivation to do these practices. But if I

> >>> think that one way to rebuilt one's faith is to do these

> >>> spiritual practices on behalf of others -- that is, if there's

> >>> this feeling that nothing will make any difference in life

> >>> for the person with the illness.

> >>>

> >>> 1. PRASANN 2: WELL, I'M STAYING AWAY FROM

> >>> MY PARENTS, RAHU- KETU TRANSIT STAYS FOR

> >>> ABOUT 1.6 MONTHS IN A SIGN.

> >>>

> >>> Currently the Nodes are transiting both your Sun and

> >>> Moon, as karaka of your parents, and this can indicate

> >>> your desire to be away from them. This transit ends

> >>> when the Nodes move into Leo/Aquarius.

> >>>

> >>> NOW HOW DID I HAVE AN ATTACK IN MARCH

> >>> 2005??? KETU IS IN VIRGO ( MY MOON SIGN)

> >>> FOR NOW BUT IN MARCH 2005 IT WAS IN

> >>> LEO PERHAPS?

> >>>

> >>> The Nodes were in Pisces/Virgo, but transiting

> >>> Sun as the troublesome 8L of obstructions and

> >>> chronic illness was beginning to aspect your

> >>> Mercury, then Venus, and then it's own Sun

> >>> position on your birthday. Plus, transiting

> >>> Mercury was aspecting your natal Sun as 8L

> >>> at the same time. The 8L can indicate problems

> >>> and flare-ups, but not always! There's always

> >>> more than one transit that must be taken into

> >>> account or one can falsely expect the worst at

> >>> all times.

> >>>

> >>> SO HOW DO WE RECKON THEIR MOVEMENT

> >>> FOR ATTACKS IN FUTURE??

> >>>

> >>> Well, after the Nodes finish their transit to your

> >>> Sun and Moon, they move into Leo/Aquarius

> >>> and aspect your Venus and Mercury going into

> >>> January. So this is a good reason to do something

> >>> positive in your outlook and in your physical care

> >>> before those transits take place. If one just lives

> >>> defensively waiting for the worst to happen, what

> >>> kind of a life-style is that? What about being proactive

> >>> in one's healthcare or in finding inner resources of

> >>> faith and resolve that one might not have suspected?

> >>> The choice is yours, otherwise life looks bleak and

> >>> gets bleaker through passive resistance. While it's

> >>> not easy, it still remains an option and can perhaps

> >>> reduce the level of fear and suffering.

> >>>

> >>> 3. PRASANN 2: THIS SOUNDS GOOD AND

> >>> INCIDENTALLY I HAVE QUITE OF BLUE IN

> >>> MY WARDROBE...BUT OF LATE HAD OBSERVED

> >>> MY LIKING FOR GREY!

> >>>

> >>> Well, just so you know, the smoky grey colors are

> >>> given to the Nodes. Rahu and Ketu love grey and

> >>> you might consider whether theirs is the best energy

> >>> to feed. Speaking astrologically, in terms of color

> >>> therapy, it is considered to be much more beneficial

> >>> to wear clearly defined colors, such as navy blue

> >>> for Saturn, royal blue for Venus, and emerald for

> >>> Mercury. Opinions vary, but according to some

> >>> astrologers, the favorable colors for Capricorn

> >>> are bright black, white, bright brown, all shades

> >>> of blue, green, and variegated colors (a mixture

> >>> of colors). The unfavorable ones are steel grey,

> >>> dull smoke grey, orange, pink, yellow, and faded

> >>> colors.

> >>>

> >>> BUT HERE SOME ASTROLOGERS INCLUDING

> >>> THE ONE WHO ADVISED SHUKRA YANTRA

> >>> CUM STONE (A PENDANT) REFUSED TO

> >>> STRENGTHEN SATURN THOUGH. BECAUSE

> >>> I HAD MADE SIMILAR INFERENCE THAT IF

> >>> SATURN IS BENEFIC AND IS MY LAGNA LORD

> >>> THEN WHY NOT I STRENGTHEN IT? BECAUSE

> >>> I ALSO SEE THIS AS ONE OF THE REASON FOR

> >>> MY WEAK KNEES (MENISCUS RUPTURE) AND

> >>> DENTAL PROBLEMS. BUT MAY BE BLUE

> >>> SAPPHIRE IS A SCARY STONE IN INDIA.

> >>>

> >>> Again, opinions vary, but I have noticed that in

> >>> charts where Saturn is strong by sign and has a

> >>> strong dispositor, the person has sound bones

> >>> and teeth. It's when Saturn is weak that it indicates

> >>> problems with the teeth and bones; and a gem for

> >>> Saturn is said to both strengthen it for good and to

> >>> lessen its qualities as a natural malefic. But some

> >>> astrologers are afraid to strengthen a natural malefic,

> >>> such as Saturn or Mars, under any circumstances,

> >>> believing that it makes these planets more malefic

> >>> even if they rule the good houses of 1, 5, and 9. I am

> >>> not of that opinion or there would never have been

> >>> gems assigned to Mars and Saturn. Saturn can very

> >>> often work for good! But it usually makes the person

> >>> work like a dog in order to get its benefits. In your

> >>> chart, Saturn is your ascendant lord and it limits

> >>> you unless you are working on your health, which

> >>> is one way of strengthening your Saturn.

> >>>

> >>> I WAS ADVISED TO WEAR A PENDANT OF SAFED

> >>> PUKHRAJ (WHITE SAPPHIRE) AND

> >>> AMETHYST PROBABLY FOR DEBILITATED

> >>> JUPITER AND STRENGTHENING SATURN. I

> >>> DID NOT WEAR THIS ONE. AS I AM ALREADY

> >>> WEARING THE SHUKRA YANTRA.

> >>>

> >>> Again, opinions vary, but I consider Jupiter as

> >>> 12L a functional malefic, and I never recommend

> >>> a gem for any functional malefic planet. I feel that

> >>> it adds to their power to cause harm. They seem

> >>> to responds better to mantras and pujas to lessen

> >>> their malefic intent. I would view your decision

> >>> not to wear a Jupiter gem as a wise one. On the

> >>> other hand, the Shukra mantra sounds fine because

> >>> Venus can use the extra help, as it rules the sign of

> >>> Taurus where Saturn is placed and makes both

> >>> planets happier and stronger.

> >>>

> >>> ALSO I AM WEARING A PENDANT WHICH HAS

> >>> PEARL,EMERALD AND RUDRAKSH IN IT. IS

> >>> PEARL OKAY AND ANYWAYS I GUESS THEY

> >>> WILL ASK ME TO WEAR DURING RAHU-MOON

> >>>

> >>> This would be fine in my view.

> >>>

> >>> AND DO YOU RECKON ME TAKING THE SHUKRA

> >>> STONE-YANTRA OFF WHEN RAHU-SURYA COMES.

> >>>

> >>> Not necessarily--that is, if it's a good Shukra stone.

> >>> High quality gems are the best and they can be very

> >>> expensive. But if it's as flawless as possible, preferably

> >>> unheated, the gem or or other Shukra talisman should

> >>> be viewed as a plus.

> >>>

> >>> AND THEN SHOULD I WEAR SOMETHING OR

> >>> IS SUN STRONG ENOUGH

> >>> TO HANDLE RAHU.

> >>>

> >>> Never, in my opinion. Sun as 8L is the most malefic

> >>> planet in your chart, and its transits helped set off

> >>> your condition in March of 2005. Look at that period

> >>> and see. Instead, the spiritual propitiation for the

> >>> Sun is when you do something like helping your father

> >>> or elderly men. So even if you do not see eye to eye

> >>> with your father, it's good karma for you to do

> >>> something for him, even if it's to say a prayer or

> >>> mantra on his behalf. But no gem for the Sun, please.

> >>>

> >>> AND BELIEVE THAT IF RAHU IS REPRESENTING

> >>> JUPITER HERE THEN THESE TWO ARE FRIENDS.

> >>>

> >>> Jupiter is debilitated and 12L of losses, expenses, and

> >>> confinement. Plus it is afflicting your ascendant. I

> >>> don't think this sounds like a friend to you. Plus

> >>> when one functional malefic, Jupiter, combines

> >>> its energy with the other trouble-maker malefics,

> >>> Rahu and Ketu, they are a not friends either.

> >>> This is why it's good to note when the transiting

> >>> Nodes aspect your natal Jupiter, transiting Jupiter

> >>> aspects your natal Nodes, or the transiting Nodes

> >>> aspect transiting Jupiter. All three combinations

> >>> would not be viewed as a friendly period for you,

> >>> and you would want to look to the other functional

> >>> benefic transits for protective energies, as from

> >>> Saturn, Moon, Mercury and Venus.

> >>>

> >>> AS PER YOU WHAT IS CLOSEST TO-BE-ALERT

> >>> SITUATION TO HAVE AN ATTACK OR SMTHG

> >>>

> >>> I think that's the wrong focus to take. I think a better

> >>> approach to take is this: "What small measures can

> >>> I take in my life to improve my faith, outlook and

> >>> overall physical condition?" Otherwise you're just

> >>> a sitting duck waiting for the next bad aspect from

> >>> the Sun or the Nodes to perhaps worsen your

> >>> condition.

> >>>

> >>> I WONDER NOW WHEN I TALK TO ASTROLOGERS

> >>> NOW AFTER SHARING MS... ALL TALK ABOUT

> >>> SEVERAL THINGS AND MARAK AND KASHTA

> >>> AND MAHAMRITUANJAYA MANTRAS AND WHAT

> >>> NOT... BUT A YEAR AGO NO ONE TOLD ME

> >>> ANYTHING OF A CHRONIC AILMENT!!!!!! AS PER

> >>> YOU STRAIGHT THERE IS A CHRONIC AILMENT?

> >>>

> >>> Astrologers not predicting a serious medical condition

> >>> is the norm not the exception. If they actually saw it

> >>> in the chart, how many astrologers would want

> >>> to tell their clients that in a year from now they

> >>> will be diagnosed with MS? I happen to feel that

> >>> medical astrology is a specialty and these

> >>> astrologers are the best one's to see potential

> >>> serious health problems in the chart. But very

> >>> few specialize in it, and in general it's not the

> >>> astrologer's fault if he or she can't predict some

> >>> of these trying conditions. It might not have made

> >>> any difference in the life of the person coming

> >>> down with the disease, if the disease is of a serious

> >>> karma nature, and was destined to happen anyway.

> >>> Nevertheless, this doesn't mean that astrology

> >>> cannot be helpful after the fact, such as in the

> >>> discussion we're having now. (I also happen to

> >>> have a chronic health condition that was never

> >>> predicted by any astrologer or psychic, and one

> >>> happened to be an Indian astrologer and palmist.

> >>> Even he missed it, and this was only about a year

> >>> before the condition manifested.)

> >>>

> >>> AND THERE S NO CHANCE THAT MY MS

> >>> COULD BE BENIGN? JUST A FEW ATTACKS

> >>> AND ITS GONE NOW?

> >>>

> >>> I think you are the only one who can answer that,

> >>> and you know enough about your chart to do so.

> >>>

> >>> AM I TO HAVE SOME DEBILITY...WHICH

> >>> PART????

> >>>

> >>> I think you already know that too.

> >>>

> >>> ITS TOO EARLY FOR ME TO RETIRE....AND

> >>> IN INDIA THERE IS NO INSURANCE

> >>> COVERAGE TOO FOR THIS...Â…

> >>>

> >>> All the more not to surrender to despair or

> >>> complete loss of faith. What Capricorn ascendant

> >>> wants to leave life without its share of

> >>> accomplishments?

> >>>

> >>> 4. PRASANN 2: ISNT MERCURY MALEFIC

> >>> FOR ME??? BECAUSE IN FACT THAT WAS

> >>> FIRST THING TO FOR ME TO OBSERVE

> >>> THAT MERCURY IS WEAK OR AFFLICTED

> >>> BY KETU THEN MAY BE WEARING AN

> >>> EMERALD SHOULD HELP.

> >>>

> >>> For a Capricorn ascendant, Mercury plays a

> >>> dual role as 9L of faith and good fortune and

> >>> 6L of potential illness. I give the weight of

> >>> Mercury to the 9L because Virgo is the

> >>> mooltatrikona sign for Mercury--it's dominant

> >>> sign--making it a functional benefic planet.

> >>> Plus, Mercury, Venus and Saturn are friends

> >>> and members of the same planetary camp.

> >>> Nevertheless, Mercury relates to the nerves

> >>> and rules the 6H of ill-health. BUT, once again,

> >>> I would view Mercury's health-related problems

> >>> to the fact that it is weak and afflicted, and not

> >>> because it happens to also rule the 6H. Ketu's

> >>> aspect to Mercury is one of the signatures for

> >>> MS if Saturn and Venus happen to be weak or

> >>> afflicted as well.

> >>>

> >>> BUT AGAIN THE SAME GUY WHO GAVE ME

> >>> SHUKRA YANTRA SAID I SHOULD NOT WEAR

> >>> EMERALD.

> >>>

> >>> He was probably scared off because Mercury

> >>> rules the 6H as well as the 9H. But if you fail to

> >>> strengthen Mercury, you may lose some of the

> >>> spiritual benefits of faith and grace of the 9H,

> >>> and that's why I happen to feel that Mercury

> >>> (and Venus!) can always be safely strengthened

> >>> for a Capricorn lagna.

> >>>

> >>> I DID TRY TELLING HIM COMPLETELY ABOUT

> >>> MS...DO NOT KNOW HOW MUCH HE

> >>> UNDERSTOOD. IN FACT HE IS QUITE

> >>> A SENIOR PRACTICING PERSON. ON

> >>> ASKING FOR MY LIFE SPAN HE SAID IT

> >>> TO BE MIDDLE AGED!!

> >>>

> >>> I happen to think that it's more important

> >>> how well one lives than how long. On the other

> >>> hand, it doesn't take a genius to realize that

> >>> most serious health conditions can inhibit the

> >>> longevity of one's life if passively endured.

> >>>

> >>> 6. PRASANN 2: MY IMMUNE RESPONSE

> >>> RATHER GETS HYPERACTIVE, THUS

> >>> ATTACK NERVES. SHOULD I SEE IT

> >>> AS...RAHU- VENUS....ATTACKS ON EYES

> >>> AND MS DIAGNOIS.Â…

> >>>

> >>> Eye concerns are related to 2H affairs and the

> >>> weakness of Venus and the affliction of Ketu to

> >>> Mercury and Saturn as a weak dispositor. That's

> >>> why planetary remedies have been suggested to

> >>> better help guide you from within through these

> >>> transit periods.

> >>>

> >>> RAHU BALANCE MD (RAHU-SUN, RAHU-MOON,

> >>> RAHU-MARS) CAUSES MORE ATTACKS WITH

> >>> SHANI SADE SATI STARTING ON AND THUS I

> >>> AM BOUND TO TAKE INTERFERONS AND THUS

> >>> MY LIVER ETC IS AFFECTED AND I AM TO

> >>> DEFINITELY BE HOSPITALIZED IN JUPITER-

> >>> JUPITER PD. AND MAY BE JUPITER-SATURN

> >>> LEADS TO SOME PERMANENT DEBILITY..Â…

> >>> AND THEN IS SATURN MD.Â…

> >>>

> >>> I think you're projecting a very fearful and limiting

> >>> future for yourself by focusing on these issues rather

> >>> than what small measures you can take to improve

> >>> your outlook and physical health, including your

> >>> overall general health.

> >>>

> >>> WHAT IS THE SAFEST AND BEST THING THAT

> >>> YOU ADVISE FOR ME FOR:

> >>> RAHU-SUN

> >>> RAHU-MOON

> >>> RAHU-MARS

> >>> JUPITER-JUPITER AND THE MD?

> >>> APART FROM THE BELOW ONES...

> >>>

> >>> Meditation and prayer. But not the meditation of

> >>> fear and apprehension; but rather, "Divine

> >>> Intelligence, teach me from within what the

> >>> lesson is here! What can I learn from this to

> >>> add meaning to my life? What is the GIFT of

> >>> this condition?" Otherwise, you're doing what?

> >>> - watching for the next transit of Rahu and Ketu.

> >>> The body heals at the alpha level of brain wave,

> >>> and this is what meditation helps to do. (Look

> >>> into the alpha work of Jose Silva for more

> >>> information on the relationship between

> >>> meditation and health.)

> >>>

> >>> HANDLING AND ANALYSING TRANSITS IS

> >>> THE MOST DIFFICULT PART

> >>>

> >>> I would use them to get an overall sense of what

> >>> they're doing, but not hand your life over to them

> >>> out of fear. The mantra for Saturn has a way of

> >>> connecting the person with the higher energy of

> >>> this planet. The one I like the best is: OM SRI

> >>> SHANAISWARAYA SWAHA, and it's available

> >>> for anyone who wants to use it. It's one of the

> >>> Saturn mantras for good health and healing.

> >>>

> >>> 7. YES THIS POINT IS BIT TEDIOUS FOR ME

> >>> TO CALCULATE....AS I MENTIONED.

> >>> WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO HELP ME OUT

> >>> ON THIS. LIKE SUN'S ASPECT IN

> >>> TRANSIT OR NATAL SUN? EG. IF RAHU

> >>> IS TO TRANSIT INTO AQUARIUS THIS

> >>> NOVEMBER 8, 2006 THAT MEANS THERE

> >>> IS NO ASPECT OF SUN THERE BUT VENUS

> >>> AND MERCURY ARE IN 2H IN THE SIGN

> >>> OF AQUARIUS. AND BOTH THESE PLANETS

> >>> AS WELL THE LORD SATURN ARE WEAK.

> >>> SO PROBABLY AN ATTACK??.Â… BCOZ RAHU

> >>> REMAINS IN A SIGN FOR 1.6 YRS I.E. APRIL

> >>> 2008.

> >>>

> >>> What I suggest is that you just happen to track

> >>> the transit of the Sun to your natal planets and

> >>> particularly to Jupiter, Rahu and Ketu. Then just

> >>> take it easier on those days without expecting a full

> >>> blown attack. According to our expectations we

> >>> can sometimes make matters worse and

> >>> manufacture negative toxins in our body.

> >>> The mind has great impact on the body, so

> >>> it pays to focus on what we want to attract

> >>> in life. Do we want to resist ill-health, or

> >>> *attract* good health? Big difference.

> >>>

> >>> AND THEN AGAIN IT TRANSITS THROUGH

> >>> MY LAGNA IE CAPRICORN WHERE

> >>> JUPITER AND MARS (OCCUPANTS) AND

> >>> LORD SATURN ARE ALL NOT ABLE TO DO

> >>> GOOD...SO ANOTHER ATTACK??.....THOUGH

> >>> SUN DOES NOT ASPECT THIS.

> >>>

> >>> These transits are way off in the future and a

> >>> great deal can be done ahead of time to neutralize

> >>> some of their negative effects.

> >>>

> >>> THEN TRANSITS SAGITTARIUS OCCUPIED

> >>> BY HIMSELF...ANOTHER ATTACK??

> >>>

> >>> Another transit years away...

> >>>

> >>> (AND MAY BE THESE ATTACKS WILL PUSH

> >>> ME FOR INTERFERONS AND THUS

> >>> JUPITER IN ITS MD MAY GIVE MORE

> >>> DAMAGE TO LIVER, NERVES, BLOOD.Â…Â….)

> >>>

> >>> Here are some options to look into that have

> >>> helped many. I would also recommend acupuncture

> >>> treatments for those with MS but only under a

> >>> doctor's advisement. Resources:

> >>>

> >>> http://www.healthy.net/asp/templates/Article.asp?Id=729

> >>>

> >>> SIMILARLY KETU IS TO COME IN SIGN LEO

> >>> WHICH IS RULED BY SUN AND I DO

> >>> NOT KNOW IF SUN IS ASPECTING IT. THEN

> >>> TAURUS THEN ARIES..Â…

> >>>

> >>> Again, many months away. So you can either do

> >>> what you can to come to terms with the weaknesses

> >>> of your chart, and balance them out, or you can

> >>> worry and fret about every major or minor

> >>> transit that comes along. I couldn't live that

> >>> way myself.

> >>>

> >>> 12. SO I GATHER THAT VENUS WAS

> >>> OVERPOWERED BY RAHU AND MAY

> >>> BE THIS MS THING HAPPENED....AND

> >>> WEARING DIAMOND AND EMERALD AND

> >>> MAY BE AMETHYST/BLUE SAPPHIRE SHOULD

> >>> HELP ME...WHAT ABOUT SADE SATI ...WOULDNT

> >>> IT BE BAD FOR MY PARENTS IF STRENGTHEN

> >>> SATURN NOW?

> >>>

> >>> Not in my opinion, no. The sooner the better, and

> >>> it needs to be a good gem, as flawless as possible,

> >>> even if it's small. And there are alternative gems

> >>> you can consider from any high quality gem dealer:

> >>>

> >>> http://www.astrologicalgem.com/

> >>>

> >>> (This is not an advertisement.)

> >>>

> >>> I SHOULD NOT WEAR YELLOW??

> >>>

> >>> Not recommended because it rules the 12H of losses

> >>> and weakening influences. Plus, it also afflicts the

> >>> degree of your ascendant and rules the 12H where

> >>> malefic Rahu happens to reside. Work with Jupiter

> >>> using mantras to bring yourself in harmony with

> >>> its higher nature and without strengthening it for

> >>> harm.

> >>>

> >>> IS SUN EVIL FOR ME? THEN RAHU-SUN

> >>> WOULD BE BAD PERIOD...

> >>>

> >>> Sun is 8L of chronic illness and not considered

> >>> a friendly planet for Capricorn rising. Rahu-Sun

> >>> could indicate further disagreements with your

> >>> parents that would be good karma for you to

> >>> work out.

> >>>

> >>> AND SHANI SADE SATI AROUND THEN

> >>> WOULD HELP OR WOULD MAKE IT WORSE?

> >>>

> >>> The effects of Sade Sati vary depending upon

> >>> whether Saturn is friendly to your chart or not.

> >>> Both Saturn and the Moon are friendly planets

> >>> for you and this makes Sade Sati somewhat

> >>> more manageable. Getting through Sade Sati

> >>> is not the problem here; it's the basic strength

> >>> of the natal planets and whatever you may

> >>> plan to do about them. In my opinion, you are

> >>> overemphasizing the importance of the transits

> >>> at the expense of dealing with the health

> >>> indications of MS in your natal chart. The

> >>> natal chart is the key, not the transits. Otherwise,

> >>> it's like looking through the wrong end of the

> >>> telescope and getting a distorted view of life.

> >>>

> >>> THINK I SHOULD NOT WEAR ANYTHING

> >>> FOR SUN...NOT REQUIRED ISNT IT?

> >>>

> >>> Not recommended for the reasons stated

> >>> before: it's the most malefic planet for Capricorn

> >>> rising as 8L of chronic illnesses.

> >>>

> >>> RAHU-MARS? WHAT IF I AM ADVISED TO

> >>> WEAR RED CORAL THEN?? AND WHAT

> >>> SHOULD I WEAR DURING COMPLETE JUPITER MD

> >>>

> >>> Strengthening the benefic planets of Saturn,

> >>> Venus and Mercury help support the proper

> >>> function of the functional malefic planets in

> >>> one's chart, and it's generally not recommended

> >>> to wear gems for the functional malefics. One

> >>> astrologer's opinion.

> >>>

> >>> I MIGHT HAVE GONE OVERBOARD WITH

> >>> MY ENDLESS QUESTIONS.

> >>>

> >>> It's okay. I happened to have had the time to

> >>> complete our exchange.

> >>>

> >>> BUT I'M JUST JOSTLING TRYING TO

> >>> IMPROVISE KARMA IF I COULD...

> >>>

> >>> Yes, you are...and I think it's wonderful. And

> >>> if you have little faith for yourself, have it for

> >>> others and serve them in unexpected ways to

> >>> help break through this karma of health, if for

> >>> this life-time or the next. For do we all not

> >>> choose our charts? How did you happen to

> >>> get that Jupiter? Or your Saturn placement?

> >>> Or are we merely victims of fate living in a

> >>> meaningless universe?

> >>>

> >>> As for myself, I have to view life and the

> >>> universe as positive and meaningful or man

> >>> would never have been given the wonderful

> >>> tool of astrology to help understand his fate

> >>> and activate his powers of choice and freewill.

> >>>

> >>> I DO CHARITIES TO THE NEEDY AND HELP

> >>> PEOPLE...NOT REALLY MUCH INTO TEMPLES

> >>> AND MANTRAS.

> >>>

> >>> I think this is exceptionally good karma for yourself.

> >>>

> >>> Sincere best wishes, Haizen

> >>>

> >>

>

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July 24, 2006

Shri Prafullji,

One more point I have missed. In my experience when Sun Saturn

conjunction or opposition is there. whatever the son does, how

much he may try to adhere to what his father says, in performing

his duties as per his Fathers dictum, still the Son will never be

able to satisfy his father. The expectaions will be beyond the sons

control or actions in succesfuly making his father happy.Probably

due to karmic influences of purva janam ?

Bhaskar.

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish