A Challenge to Astrology - Multiple Sclerosis!!! (Attn. Charles et al.)

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Dear Haizen and et al.

 

Thank you so much for the detailed analysis!

 

But, wow, I was doomed from day one!! Seriously, in some ways I have

always felt not "well", but in other ways I have always been amazed

at how well I have done considering the extreme self abuse I have

done to myself over a good portion of my life. I would imagine the

Aires and Mars combination contribute to this strength, (which I did

not fully utilize early on!!)

 

You mentioned

 

"..... stabilize the health later on."

 

and

 

"..... recovery from making certain life- style changes beyond what

standard medicine would view as possible and efficacious."

 

Can you elaborate on this? I mean, in so many ways I feel so

fortunate and believe all of this has been a blessing. Are there

indicators in my chart that would show this reversal or

stabilization? I would imagine the mahadasha of Mercury starting in

the end of 2012 would be a period where I would have to be vigilant

in watching my health.

 

Also, I have been trying to get a better understanding of the ninth

house and how it impacts my spiritual journey. My ninth is ruled by

Jupiter, Ketu in residence, aspected by Jupiter, Rahu (obviously)

and Venus, at least by my novice analysis. In general, my interest

in spiritually started right around the begining of my mahadasha of

Saturn. There was a definite interest, but it was more of academic

pursuit; It was like I was testing the water but did not fully jump

in until the MS diagnosis.

 

Once again, thank you and all the others who have helped me increase

my knowledge of jyotish and its direct impact on my life.

 

Namaste,

 

Charles

 

DOB: May 6th, 1964 4:52 EST (5:52 DST), Place: Reading, PA, USA

75W56 40N20

 

 

 

 

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> Hi Charles,

>

> I'm offering this report in the spirit of research and hope

> it will be received this way by its readers. Maybe it will

> somehow be of use to you or be food for thought.

>

> Health Notes on Charles Corbit

>

> May 6, 1964, 5:52 EDT, Reading, PA, 75W56,

> 40N20, Lagna (Lahiri) at 19:09 Aries

>

> Abbreviations: "H" means house; "L" means lord.

>

> "Serious health problems have to be indicated in

> numerous ways or it's not a serious health problem."

> -h.p.

>

> Natal Analysis

>

> Aries Rising. Aries represents force, vigor and energy.

> It is the beginning of the sympathetic nervous system

> and represents the head taken as a whole. Externally

> Aries rules the head, face, nose, ears, eyes and mouth.

> Internally it rules the brain and nerve centers. Structurally

> Aries rules the cranium and facial bones. Aries diseases

> and afflictions tends to excesses, dryness, heat, fevers,

> inflammation, excess of forcefulness and energy.

> Sometimes injuries and accidents come into play. Sun,

> Mars, Mercury and Jupiter are all in Aries and subject to

> the conditions of Aries.

>

> Mars in Aries as lagna lord is in its own house. This is a

> strong and essentially positive position for Mars, and this

> lordship is often found in charts where there is a great deal

> of emphasis on the physical body for one reason or another.

> It is sometimes found in charts of body-builders, actors,

> athletes, politicians, entrepreneurs or people of independence

> and charisma. It can also indicate strong self-interest,

> physical happiness, good health and prowess when

> unafflicted by the 6th, 8th or 12th house lords.

>

> In Charles' chart the full benefits of this Mars 1H lordship

> were likely to be denied. Mercury as the difficult 6L of acute

> health conditions is closely aspecting Mars as 1L of the

> physical body within 4 degrees. Mercury itself represents

> the connective nerves, and Mercury in Aries the nerves in

> the head. (Saturn also represents the nervous system,

> and Saturn in the 11H aspects Mercury in the 1H of the

> head and brain area.) The 6L just by itself indicates such

> things as the control of the nerves and one's ability to

> deal with anxiety, worry and stress. Mercury as karaka

> of the nerves is also 6L of the nerves. This means

> Mercury is doing double-duty with regard to its connection

> to nerve function for Aries rising. Mercury as 6L of acute

> illness aspects Mars, and Mars represents motor ability

> and muscle function in general. There looks to be a

> problem here. So right off the bat this appears to be a

> chart where the health may need to be watched from the

> very beginning and managed throughout life, and because

> of Mercury's aspect to Mars and Saturn's aspect on both

> Mercury and Mars, Charles could experience some kind

> of a chronic health problem that would manifest sometime

> in life, if not before, then most likely when the seriousness

> of Saturn dasha kicked in in 1992.

>

> Adding significance to the health situation is that Mars is

> simultaneously 8L of chronic and difficult health problems

> and the 1L of the general physical health. This means that

> not only can Mercury cause problems to Mars but Mars

> can cause injuries to Mercury through possible accidents,

> fevers, muscles strain or over-exertion. The 6L of acute

> health conditions and 8L of chronic health conditions are

> battling each other with Charles caught in the middle. This

> aspect indicates great stress potential in life if the inner

> conflicts are not eventually resolved through some type of

> insight or life-style change, etc.

>

> (It might be significant too that, in addition to general muscle

> function, Mars in Aries can specifically represent the facial

> muscles. Mercury represents neurological conditions and

> Mercury in Aries is specifically said to be related the cerebral

> nerves, mouth, tongue, lower lip and hair, according to some

> authorities. It would be interesting to find out if any of these

> areas were ever affected, even in a minor way, and may

> have caused something of a speech problem in early life.

> Rahu aspecting Venus in Gemini, the sign of communication,

> and Venus as 2L of speech, would indicate the same thing

> along similar lines, especially between the age of 11 through

> 13 when Ketu was transiting these planets in Aries. Still, I

> would not view this as a long-term health issue throughout life.

> I only mention it as a point of research.)

>

> Mercury as 6L can also represent intestinal function,

> the elimination, digestive problems, dietary habits,

> allergies, conflicts and stress. Mars can represent

> potential fevers, sharp pains, and inflammation of the

> nerves or potential "attacks" upon the nerves.

>

> Again, Mercury as 6L indicates problems with the nerves

> related to muscle function because of its close aspect to

> Mars. One planet impacts the other until something is

> done about it as a life-style change, such as making

> fewer physical demands... having more rest... dietary

> changes, and perhaps avoiding too much caffeine or

> stimulants that can cause adrenal stress, as the adrenals

> are also signified by Mars.

>

> Special note...anomaly. There was also a very unusual

> situation at the time of birth involving the aspect between

> Mercury and Mars that shows why retrograde planets are

> considered more powerful by some astrological pundits.

> These two vitally important health indicators remained in

> close conjunction until Mercury finally moved out of Aries

> on June 6th--*thirty days later.* This is not typical. This

> may have been critical. Rather than Mercury doing its

> typical one or two day transit to another planet, Mercury

> as the troublesome 6L had extra time to damage and

> weaken the muscle functions of Mars or affect the

> neurology of the head in some way. This points to

> some health problems during the first month of birth

> from whatever was going on at the time, such as

> possible digestive problems, fevers, accidents or

> incidents at home.

>

> Jupiter in Aries represents the arteries and Jupiter

> in Aries specifically represents the arteries in the head

> and the potential blood flow to the head. There's a

> potential health problem indicated with Jupiter, because

> Mercury as the problem-causer of ill-health is not only

> in close aspect to Mars but is in close aspect to Jupiter.

> Jupiter primarily signifies the liver/gall bladder area, the

> body's ability to deal with fats and blood, and other

> elated matters such as potential allergies.

>

> The positive side is that Mars is well-placed in Aries

> and this helps Mars to withstand the impact of Mercury

> and sustain muscle function in the long-run if stress and

> strain is reduced. Mars, Jupiter and the Sun are well-

> placed in Aries and all planets are functional benefics

> for an Aries ascendant and this helps these planets

> deal with the disruptive impact of Mercury and help

> stabilize the health later on.

>

> These planetary health aspects, nerve and muscle

> vulnerabilities would become more prominent under

> Saturn dasha. Saturn is the other primary significator

> of the nerves, especially in the area below the knee

> and down into the feet. Saturn as karaka of the 12H

> represents the feet, and even though Saturn is

> considered to be well-placed in Aquarius, Saturn

> aspects Jupiter, Mercury and Mars and Mercury's 6L

> problem-causing aspect to both planets. May of 1994

> through December of 1995 showed Ketu's transit of the

> 1H of the head area and general health under Saturn

> dasha, the nerves. This would have been a time when

> some of the MS symptoms were likely to appear in some

> noticeable way, but there are other periods of time that

> could be examined as well as a lead-in to the official

> diagnosis of MS in 2003. This is a highly instructive

> chart from many standpoints for those interested in how

> the chart might reveal a tendency to certain more serious

> health problems and the recovery from making certain life-

> style changes beyond what standard medicine would view

> as possible and efficacious.

>

> I hope this little report will be of interest to readers and in

> no way is viewed as trivializing the suffering that MS can

> cause.

>

> I will try to look at some other MS charts when I have the

> time.

>

> Sincerely, Haizen Paige

>

>

>

>

> , "charles_corbit"

<charles_corbit@> wrote:

> >

> > After reading Rohiniranjan's request, I decided to post a bit

more

> > detailed background on my history with MS. For reference, I am

> > posting my DOB again as I am always looking for feedback on how

> > events transpired relative to astrological indicators.

> >

> > DOB: May 6th, 1964 4:52 EST (5:52 DST)

> > Place: Reading, PA, USA 75W56 40N20

> >

> > As I stated in a previous post, my first symptoms appeared

around

> > 1992. I was recently divorced and started to go to the gym to

work

> > out to be more "marketable". I was concentrating on strength

> > building and really pushing myself. I started to get lightheaded

> > periods and what I can describe as "whooshes" in my head. I went

to

> > the doctor and I am not sure why, but it was mentioned that it

could

> > be MS. I did an MRI, but it came back negative. I was told that

it

> > was stress and anxiety related and I should see a therapist. For

the

> > record, I was eating a very high fat, junk food diet and not

keeping

> > a regular schedule for sleep. Once I quit working out so

intently,

> > the symptoms were mitigated.

> >

> > Now over the next 10 years or so, I had a variety of symptoms

that

> > came and went. However, most symptoms where lightheaded in

nature

> > and a general feeling of just not feeling "right". I was tested

for

> > hypoglycemia, diabetes, epilepsy, sleep apnea, sleep study and

> > cardiac heart stress test, etc… I found my normal resting heart

rate

> > is very low, around 50-55. When I sleep, my heart goes down to

35 at

> > times. I achieved quite a bit in there years career wise and it

was

> > not uncommon to work 60-80 hours week. I had a terrible diet and

> > sleep schedule supplementing every waking breath with large

amounts

> > of coffee.

> >

> > Although, I never had vision problems that were detected, I

often

> > felt during my episodes that I was kind of looking through a

tunnel,

> > sort of vignetted. Almost like I was missing some of the data.

It

> > is hard to describe. However, my vision test always came up

negative

> > and I do not even wear glasses.

> >

> > Somewhere in around 1999, my lightheadedness was getting worse

and I

> > would feel like I had to pass out, especially in the heat or

after

> > heavy physical exertion. I took a tilt test and I failed, so

they

> > had me on medication to keep my heart rate elevated.

> >

> > All during this time, I would have sinus infection after sinus

> > infection, very bad seasonal allergies. I was taking OTC pain

> > medications on a daily basis along with allergy medication.

> >

> > Unfortunately, I did not keep good records, so I cannot

correlate to

> > any dasha sub periods, etc..

> >

> > Then in mid 2003, I started to get numbness in my toes. I

thought it

> > might be shoes I was wearing. Then I started to get numbness and

> > tingling in my hands and also felt like I had a whole in my

chest.;

> > almost like I could not feel the existence of my torso. The

doctors

> > thought it was a pinched nerve, but finally through the MRIs,

they

> > found a lesion in my cervical spine and three lesions in my

brain.

> > The neurologist told me the diagnosis gave me a phone number for

a

> > MS support group, handed me a drug kit for Rebif (interferon)

with a

> > video tape on how to give myself injections and sent me on my

way.

> > Literally, there was no talk of alternatives, diet, etc…

> >

> > I went home and sunk into a depression for about a month or so.

I

> > contemplated it for some time and realized I must not fight

this,

> > not in the traditional sense of I am going to beat this, but I

> > needed to accept it and learn to live with it. I started an

ardent

> > search on MS related materials, both allopathic and non-

allopathic,

> > meanwhile I started the injections. I reacted very well, some

> > limited site reactions, but no major side effects. I read about

yoga

> > and western research on low fat diets. I read about Ayurveda and

> > realized my lifestyle was the cause of many of my issues and

> > probably contributed to my MS or at least hastened it along. As

I

> > started to make changes, I decided the risk factors and the

> > potential damage to my liver from the interferon was not worth

it. I

> > fired my first neurologist and got another one who was much more

> > open to discuss alternates, maybe not agree completely, but I

feel

> > like she considers me a partner in managing my health. I decided

to

> > quit the Rebif after a year and after I my last annual MRI

showed no

> > new activity and a lumber puncture came back negative!! I

decided

> > that if my condition would worsen that I would consider starting

> > again, but I truly believe taking care of myself dietwise and

> > supplementing with vitamins is a key in stopping the progression.

> >

> > In summary, I made the following changes over a year period and

have

> > seen real benefits during this time.

> >

> > 1.) I follow an extremely low fat diet as detailed by Dr. Swank,

> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594480931/sr=8-

> > 4/qid=1152844043/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-3411947-5635924?ie=UTF8

> >

> > 2.) I take high dosages of vitamins as detailed by a board

certified

> > neurologist, Perlmutter, who describes studies which indicate a

> > beneficial impact on neurological functions.

> > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594480931/sr=8-

> > 4/qid=1152844043/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-3411947-5635924?ie=UTF8

> >

> > 3.) I practice hatha yoga on a very routine basis

> >

> > 4.) I try to meditate regularly; however, I do struggle with

this.

> >

> > 5.) I do not eat any processed foods and concentrate on whole

> > organic foods.

> >

> > 6.) I follow a pitta balancing ayurvedic lifestyle

> >

> > 7.) I concentrate on practicing yamas and niyamas

> >

> > Amazingly, I do not take any medicines anymore. I do not get

sick

> > like I use to. I do not get headaches. My allergies are much

less.

> > And although, I still get occasionally numbness and tingling, it

is

> > not getting worse. However, recently it seems a bit more and I

do

> > tend to fatigue easier. But it does not bother me that much. I

do

> > not define myself as my MS. It is a symptom of my karma, of my

> > flawed human body, but I am not my body, I am not MS.

> >

> > I have been extremely blessed and do not believe I would be

living

> > the life I have had it not be for this diagnosis. I realize that

> > physically things could change very quickly as the nature of MS

is

> > so unpredictable. However, my concern since my diagnosis has

been

> > broadened to include more than just this life; it has allowed me

to

> > re-focus my efforts in a manner which I never would have

> > comprehended ten years ago. I am hoping my efforts now will

allow me

> > to face the inevitable decline of my physical body when the time

> > comes with strength, courage and wisdom.

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Charles

> >

> > For those who suffer with MS, I urge you to at least look into

the

> > links I mentioned above. I truly believe these methods can help

> > lessen the impact.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Charles et al,

This is DR.PRK Prasad with you here.I am afraid my previous message was not delivered to the group.I am basically a super specialist surgeon- a NEUROSURGEON.I am a KATAK RASI & LAGNA subject with Jupiter in Leo(2nd house),Rahu in Libra(4th House),Saturn in Scorpio(5th house),Mercury with Ketu in 10th house(Aries),Sun in 11th house(Taurus) & lastly Venus with Mars in Gemini in the 12th house.My sade satti of Saturn started on 22nd Sept'2002.My daughter who s a Gemini by Rasi & Libran by Lagna had her sade satti starting in Aug'98.As the saying goes,the FIRST Sade Satti affects one's parents & it badly affected me & my wife.My wife & daughter left for USA to seek greener pastures there.My daughter had to go to a hostel & we three were thrown in different locations on this planet.We were a very happy family until 1998.I developed difficulty in swallowing with vague discomfort behind my chest bone.I underwent multiple coronary angiograms and stenting as it was erraneously

diagnosed as severe coronary artery disease with unstable angina (probably due to Jupiter in Leo).I did not find any improvement in the basic difficulty in swallowing despite the coronary arteries stenting & then as the difficulty worsened,I insisted on a gastro-oesophageal endoscopy.It was done at my insistance & to everyone's surprise,I was found to have a malignacy in the throat & upper oesophagus.I underwent the Chemo & Radio therapy regimens prescibed & after much suffering for last 4 years,was finally declared as cured of the malignancy.I am now running my Venus Mahadasa with Jupiter subdasa.Recently,I had to undergo THREE OPERATIONS for impacted urinary stones(probably b'cos Venus rules one's genitals).

I never ever believed in astrology/any futurological science until I was devastated with all the above events overtaking me & hauling me over board on innumerable occassions.Now I use this science as a guiding scienceONLY to forewarn myself & prepare myself mentally & otherwise.Hence I became a member of this enlightened group.to learn more about this ? occult ? scientific subject to do everything humanly possible at my disposal to prevent such devastating occurrances in my future life.I think & firmly believe that THIS IS THE ONLY WAY ONE SHOULD UTILISE THE PREDICTIONS OF THIS FUTUROLOGICAL SUBJECT.

Another fact that I must emphasise is NOTHING CAN BEAT ONE"S SPIRIT if one emboldens himself to battle on all fronts & overcome the physical affliction.The ATMA IS INDESTRUCTIBLE WHILE THE PHYSICAL FORMS ARE ALWAYS DESTRUCTIBLE.So when faced with seemingly impossible to win situations,develop spiritual strength & fight out as I have done.I refused to let the malignancy overtake my spirit & continued to work both to get over my depression & divert my mind from the nagging physical afflictions.

I sincerely hope this will help all the group members who face similar situations.

 

 

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Dear P.R.K. Prasad,

 

Namaste

 

I would need to defer to qualified astrologers for better insight,

but here is what I can write from my view:

 

>From my limited knowledge I do not see the heath difficulties clearly

in your chart because lagnesh Moon is in lagna with no affliction by

aspect or conjuction of malefics.

 

Both of the health issues you've mentioned are primarily Kapha

related and the Kapha nature is seen clearly by your Lagna. So that

part does make sense to me.

 

The only health indicator that is afflicted as far as I can tell is

Sun who is afflicted by Saturn (7th & 8th lord). Therefor, I would

think that your health issues must be indicated in your chart by this

Sun/Saturn mutual aspect. And this what Prashant Kumar has already

posted.

 

To add to what Prashant has written:

 

Sun is 2nd lord and the 2nd house may indicate the throat.

The 2nd house is occupied by Jupiter and this may indicate the

unchecked accumalation in the throat (tumor). Perhaps as 6th lord

Jupiter can indeed indicate this issue. Though, I would not have

predicted it because Jupiter is the benefic 9th lord. Saturn's

aspect on the 2nd house is more clearly malefic.

 

If we look at your chart from the Sun Lagna, the afflicition of 2nd

house by 6th lord is repeated. And here again the 6th lord (Venus

this time) s/b mostly a benefic due to also being Lagnesh. And,again,

a second affliction from a clearly malefic planet (Mars as 7th/12th

lord) is there as well. Also from the Sun lagna, the affliction of

2nd lord is repeated.

 

So from all three lagnas, the 2nd house and 2nd lord are afflicted.

 

Though, some 2nd house indications must be very good for you as well

due to the mixed lordship of Jupiter as seen from the Ascendant &

Moon lagnas, and the mixed lordship of Venus as seen from the Sun

lagna.

 

At any rate, I think it may be safe to say that in addition to

Taurus, 2nd house & 2nd lord are the indicators of the throat tumor

you went through.

 

The ureteric stones would be related to Scorpio, 8th house & 8th

lord.

 

Therefor, what Prashant said about the Taurus/Scorpio axis makes a

great deal of sense to me. And in your chart there is a great deal

of confluence for these issues -- 2nd lord is in Taurus in mutual

aspect with 8th lord in Scorpio and the 2/8 axis is afflicted from

all 3 lagnas.

 

A Kapha pacifying diet is most likely what an Ayurvedic physician

would recommend. All three lagnas are in Kapha signs (Cancer &

Taurus) and from each lagna a strongly Kapha planet (Jupiter & Venus)

is placed in the 2nd house.

 

By the way, my teacher of Ayurveda would surely recommend daily

gargling with triphala water.

 

I stress again that I am a beginner and by no means a qualified

astrologer or an Ayurvedic phyisician so please take the comments

with a grain of salt.

 

Take it easy,

Sean

 

 

 

, "P.R.K. Prasad"

<aarkepee wrote:

>

> Dear Sean,

> Can you analyse my chart & tell me why I had a malignant throat

tumour & Ureteric stones ?

> My date of birth is 02nd June 1957 at 10.36 am IST at

VIJAYAWADA,ANDHRA PRADESH,INDIA.I am A cancer subject by lagna as

well as Rasi withJupiter in Leo,Rahu in 4th house(Libra) ,Saturn in

5th house (Scorpio),Mercury & Ketu in Aries with Sun in Taurua &

venus with Mars in Gemini (12th house) ?

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Charles,

 

My first chance to get back to you. Thanks for reading!

 

"Doomed"? Definitely not. But as a big believer in fate

and destiny, I feel that people are co-creators with

Divine Intelligence for whatever karma they plan to

work out in their lifetime. For someone with MS, they've

probably decided to work on a large chunk of it. But

those like you who view their illness as a GIFT and not

as pointless suffering or terrible punishment seem to

improve their condition the most. The worst thing about

having a major illness is that sense of no longer being

in control of one's life. But there's still free will at our

command to set new causes in motion and plant the

seeds of health, whether for the benefit of this life-time

or the next. Nothing is lost.

 

I think there are numerous indicates in your chart about

"not feeling exactly well" from perhaps the very beginning.

Your first dasha was Rahu, which I didn't get to in the report.

Rahu can be a stressful influence and you have it in aspect

to your Saturn representing the nerves. Ketu can indicate

inflammations and you have it aspecting your Aries planets.

The interesting thing about Ketu is that it represents natural

healing methods. Cleanses, herbs, massage, meditation and

acupuncture. I'd like to see more MS people receive acupuncture

because this mode of treatment acts directly to unlock nerve

blockages. The problem is that sometimes standard medicine

will not see these things as helpful. Then the person, if lucky,

must discover them on their own, and I somehow feel that

you will help get the word out. You have been blessed by

the grace of Jupiter in your ascendant, and I feel that's why

you have been able to recover to this extent. And everyone

has a Jupiter somewhere trying to help out. And yes, the

Mercury dasha is a period where you would not want to

discontinue doing the beneficial things you have to improve

your situation. Ketu in the 9H can indicate your differences

of viewpoint with your father, or other differences. But the

spiritual side of Ketu is brought out because of the good

lordship from Jupiter as 9L in the 1H. That's one of the

best planetary lordships in all of astrology. Your Saturn

is well placed in Aquarius (though 'afflicted' by Rahu)

and Saturn can be very spiritual in down to earth practical

ways. Saturn is about 'doing something about it'. Saturn in

Aquarius in the 11H is also humanitarian, and I feel there

are indications in your chart that you will touch the lives

of many people. You could work with groups or you

start an organization, putting others to work so you don't

build stress into your life. Or you could just share when the

feeling moves you like on this newsgroups. There's a lot

more to come for you.

 

Best wishes, Haizen

 

 

, "charles_corbit" <charles_corbit.> wrote:

>

> Dear Haizen and et al.

>

> Thank you so much for the detailed analysis!

>

> But, wow, I was doomed from day one!! Seriously, in some ways I have

> always felt not "well", but in other ways I have always been amazed

> at how well I have done considering the extreme self abuse I have

> done to myself over a good portion of my life. I would imagine the

> Aires and Mars combination contribute to this strength, (which I did

> not fully utilize early on!!)

>

> You mentioned

>

> "..... stabilize the health later on."

>

> and

>

> "..... recovery from making certain life- style changes beyond what

> standard medicine would view as possible and efficacious."

>

> Can you elaborate on this? I mean, in so many ways I feel so

> fortunate and believe all of this has been a blessing. Are there

> indicators in my chart that would show this reversal or

> stabilization? I would imagine the mahadasha of Mercury starting in

> the end of 2012 would be a period where I would have to be vigilant

> in watching my health.

>

> Also, I have been trying to get a better understanding of the ninth

> house and how it impacts my spiritual journey. My ninth is ruled by

> Jupiter, Ketu in residence, aspected by Jupiter, Rahu (obviously)

> and Venus, at least by my novice analysis. In general, my interest

> in spiritually started right around the begining of my mahadasha of

> Saturn. There was a definite interest, but it was more of academic

> pursuit; It was like I was testing the water but did not fully jump

> in until the MS diagnosis.

>

> Once again, thank you and all the others who have helped me increase

> my knowledge of jyotish and its direct impact on my life.

>

> Namaste,

>

> Charles

>

> DOB: May 6th, 1964 4:52 EST (5:52 DST), Place: Reading, PA, USA

> 75W56 40N20

>

>

>

>

> , "haizen" <haizen@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Charles,

> >

> > I'm offering this report in the spirit of research and hope

> > it will be received this way by its readers. Maybe it will

> > somehow be of use to you or be food for thought.

> >

> > Health Notes on Charles Corbit

> >

> > May 6, 1964, 5:52 EDT, Reading, PA, 75W56,

> > 40N20, Lagna (Lahiri) at 19:09 Aries

> >

> > Abbreviations: "H" means house; "L" means lord.

> >

> > "Serious health problems have to be indicated in

> > numerous ways or it's not a serious health problem."

> > -h.p.

> >

> > Natal Analysis

> >

> > Aries Rising. Aries represents force, vigor and energy.

> > It is the beginning of the sympathetic nervous system

> > and represents the head taken as a whole. Externally

> > Aries rules the head, face, nose, ears, eyes and mouth.

> > Internally it rules the brain and nerve centers. Structurally

> > Aries rules the cranium and facial bones. Aries diseases

> > and afflictions tends to excesses, dryness, heat, fevers,

> > inflammation, excess of forcefulness and energy.

> > Sometimes injuries and accidents come into play. Sun,

> > Mars, Mercury and Jupiter are all in Aries and subject to

> > the conditions of Aries.

> >

> > Mars in Aries as lagna lord is in its own house. This is a

> > strong and essentially positive position for Mars, and this

> > lordship is often found in charts where there is a great deal

> > of emphasis on the physical body for one reason or another.

> > It is sometimes found in charts of body-builders, actors,

> > athletes, politicians, entrepreneurs or people of independence

> > and charisma. It can also indicate strong self-interest,

> > physical happiness, good health and prowess when

> > unafflicted by the 6th, 8th or 12th house lords.

> >

> > In Charles' chart the full benefits of this Mars 1H lordship

> > were likely to be denied. Mercury as the difficult 6L of acute

> > health conditions is closely aspecting Mars as 1L of the

> > physical body within 4 degrees. Mercury itself represents

> > the connective nerves, and Mercury in Aries the nerves in

> > the head. (Saturn also represents the nervous system,

> > and Saturn in the 11H aspects Mercury in the 1H of the

> > head and brain area.) The 6L just by itself indicates such

> > things as the control of the nerves and one's ability to

> > deal with anxiety, worry and stress. Mercury as karaka

> > of the nerves is also 6L of the nerves. This means

> > Mercury is doing double-duty with regard to its connection

> > to nerve function for Aries rising. Mercury as 6L of acute

> > illness aspects Mars, and Mars represents motor ability

> > and muscle function in general. There looks to be a

> > problem here. So right off the bat this appears to be a

> > chart where the health may need to be watched from the

> > very beginning and managed throughout life, and because

> > of Mercury's aspect to Mars and Saturn's aspect on both

> > Mercury and Mars, Charles could experience some kind

> > of a chronic health problem that would manifest sometime

> > in life, if not before, then most likely when the seriousness

> > of Saturn dasha kicked in in 1992.

> >

> > Adding significance to the health situation is that Mars is

> > simultaneously 8L of chronic and difficult health problems

> > and the 1L of the general physical health. This means that

> > not only can Mercury cause problems to Mars but Mars

> > can cause injuries to Mercury through possible accidents,

> > fevers, muscles strain or over-exertion. The 6L of acute

> > health conditions and 8L of chronic health conditions are

> > battling each other with Charles caught in the middle. This

> > aspect indicates great stress potential in life if the inner

> > conflicts are not eventually resolved through some type of

> > insight or life-style change, etc.

> >

> > (It might be significant too that, in addition to general muscle

> > function, Mars in Aries can specifically represent the facial

> > muscles. Mercury represents neurological conditions and

> > Mercury in Aries is specifically said to be related the cerebral

> > nerves, mouth, tongue, lower lip and hair, according to some

> > authorities. It would be interesting to find out if any of these

> > areas were ever affected, even in a minor way, and may

> > have caused something of a speech problem in early life.

> > Rahu aspecting Venus in Gemini, the sign of communication,

> > and Venus as 2L of speech, would indicate the same thing

> > along similar lines, especially between the age of 11 through

> > 13 when Ketu was transiting these planets in Aries. Still, I

> > would not view this as a long-term health issue throughout life.

> > I only mention it as a point of research.)

> >

> > Mercury as 6L can also represent intestinal function,

> > the elimination, digestive problems, dietary habits,

> > allergies, conflicts and stress. Mars can represent

> > potential fevers, sharp pains, and inflammation of the

> > nerves or potential "attacks" upon the nerves.

> >

> > Again, Mercury as 6L indicates problems with the nerves

> > related to muscle function because of its close aspect to

> > Mars. One planet impacts the other until something is

> > done about it as a life-style change, such as making

> > fewer physical demands... having more rest... dietary

> > changes, and perhaps avoiding too much caffeine or

> > stimulants that can cause adrenal stress, as the adrenals

> > are also signified by Mars.

> >

> > Special note...anomaly. There was also a very unusual

> > situation at the time of birth involving the aspect between

> > Mercury and Mars that shows why retrograde planets are

> > considered more powerful by some astrological pundits.

> > These two vitally important health indicators remained in

> > close conjunction until Mercury finally moved out of Aries

> > on June 6th--*thirty days later.* This is not typical. This

> > may have been critical. Rather than Mercury doing its

> > typical one or two day transit to another planet, Mercury

> > as the troublesome 6L had extra time to damage and

> > weaken the muscle functions of Mars or affect the

> > neurology of the head in some way. This points to

> > some health problems during the first month of birth

> > from whatever was going on at the time, such as

> > possible digestive problems, fevers, accidents or

> > incidents at home.

> >

> > Jupiter in Aries represents the arteries and Jupiter

> > in Aries specifically represents the arteries in the head

> > and the potential blood flow to the head. There's a

> > potential health problem indicated with Jupiter, because

> > Mercury as the problem-causer of ill-health is not only

> > in close aspect to Mars but is in close aspect to Jupiter.

> > Jupiter primarily signifies the liver/gall bladder area, the

> > body's ability to deal with fats and blood, and other

> > elated matters such as potential allergies.

> >

> > The positive side is that Mars is well-placed in Aries

> > and this helps Mars to withstand the impact of Mercury

> > and sustain muscle function in the long-run if stress and

> > strain is reduced. Mars, Jupiter and the Sun are well-

> > placed in Aries and all planets are functional benefics

> > for an Aries ascendant and this helps these planets

> > deal with the disruptive impact of Mercury and help

> > stabilize the health later on.

> >

> > These planetary health aspects, nerve and muscle

> > vulnerabilities would become more prominent under

> > Saturn dasha. Saturn is the other primary significator

> > of the nerves, especially in the area below the knee

> > and down into the feet. Saturn as karaka of the 12H

> > represents the feet, and even though Saturn is

> > considered to be well-placed in Aquarius, Saturn

> > aspects Jupiter, Mercury and Mars and Mercury's 6L

> > problem-causing aspect to both planets. May of 1994

> > through December of 1995 showed Ketu's transit of the

> > 1H of the head area and general health under Saturn

> > dasha, the nerves. This would have been a time when

> > some of the MS symptoms were likely to appear in some

> > noticeable way, but there are other periods of time that

> > could be examined as well as a lead-in to the official

> > diagnosis of MS in 2003. This is a highly instructive

> > chart from many standpoints for those interested in how

> > the chart might reveal a tendency to certain more serious

> > health problems and the recovery from making certain life-

> > style changes beyond what standard medicine would view

> > as possible and efficacious.

> >

> > I hope this little report will be of interest to readers and in

> > no way is viewed as trivializing the suffering that MS can

> > cause.

> >

> > I will try to look at some other MS charts when I have the

> > time.

> >

> > Sincerely, Haizen Paige

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "charles_corbit"

> <charles_corbit@> wrote:

> > >

> > > After reading Rohiniranjan's request, I decided to post a bit

> more

> > > detailed background on my history with MS. For reference, I am

> > > posting my DOB again as I am always looking for feedback on how

> > > events transpired relative to astrological indicators.

> > >

> > > DOB: May 6th, 1964 4:52 EST (5:52 DST)

> > > Place: Reading, PA, USA 75W56 40N20

> > >

> > > As I stated in a previous post, my first symptoms appeared

> around

> > > 1992. I was recently divorced and started to go to the gym to

> work

> > > out to be more "marketable". I was concentrating on strength

> > > building and really pushing myself. I started to get lightheaded

> > > periods and what I can describe as "whooshes" in my head. I went

> to

> > > the doctor and I am not sure why, but it was mentioned that it

> could

> > > be MS. I did an MRI, but it came back negative. I was told that

> it

> > > was stress and anxiety related and I should see a therapist. For

> the

> > > record, I was eating a very high fat, junk food diet and not

> keeping

> > > a regular schedule for sleep. Once I quit working out so

> intently,

> > > the symptoms were mitigated.

> > >

> > > Now over the next 10 years or so, I had a variety of symptoms

> that

> > > came and went. However, most symptoms where lightheaded in

> nature

> > > and a general feeling of just not feeling "right". I was tested

> for

> > > hypoglycemia, diabetes, epilepsy, sleep apnea, sleep study and

> > > cardiac heart stress test, etc… I found my normal resting heart

> rate

> > > is very low, around 50-55. When I sleep, my heart goes down to

> 35 at

> > > times. I achieved quite a bit in there years career wise and it

> was

> > > not uncommon to work 60-80 hours week. I had a terrible diet and

> > > sleep schedule supplementing every waking breath with large

> amounts

> > > of coffee.

> > >

> > > Although, I never had vision problems that were detected, I

> often

> > > felt during my episodes that I was kind of looking through a

> tunnel,

> > > sort of vignetted. Almost like I was missing some of the data.

> It

> > > is hard to describe. However, my vision test always came up

> negative

> > > and I do not even wear glasses.

> > >

> > > Somewhere in around 1999, my lightheadedness was getting worse

> and I

> > > would feel like I had to pass out, especially in the heat or

> after

> > > heavy physical exertion. I took a tilt test and I failed, so

> they

> > > had me on medication to keep my heart rate elevated.

> > >

> > > All during this time, I would have sinus infection after sinus

> > > infection, very bad seasonal allergies. I was taking OTC pain

> > > medications on a daily basis along with allergy medication.

> > >

> > > Unfortunately, I did not keep good records, so I cannot

> correlate to

> > > any dasha sub periods, etc..

> > >

> > > Then in mid 2003, I started to get numbness in my toes. I

> thought it

> > > might be shoes I was wearing. Then I started to get numbness and

> > > tingling in my hands and also felt like I had a whole in my

> chest.;

> > > almost like I could not feel the existence of my torso. The

> doctors

> > > thought it was a pinched nerve, but finally through the MRIs,

> they

> > > found a lesion in my cervical spine and three lesions in my

> brain.

> > > The neurologist told me the diagnosis gave me a phone number for

> a

> > > MS support group, handed me a drug kit for Rebif (interferon)

> with a

> > > video tape on how to give myself injections and sent me on my

> way.

> > > Literally, there was no talk of alternatives, diet, etc…

> > >

> > > I went home and sunk into a depression for about a month or so.

> I

> > > contemplated it for some time and realized I must not fight

> this,

> > > not in the traditional sense of I am going to beat this, but I

> > > needed to accept it and learn to live with it. I started an

> ardent

> > > search on MS related materials, both allopathic and non-

> allopathic,

> > > meanwhile I started the injections. I reacted very well, some

> > > limited site reactions, but no major side effects. I read about

> yoga

> > > and western research on low fat diets. I read about Ayurveda and

> > > realized my lifestyle was the cause of many of my issues and

> > > probably contributed to my MS or at least hastened it along. As

> I

> > > started to make changes, I decided the risk factors and the

> > > potential damage to my liver from the interferon was not worth

> it. I

> > > fired my first neurologist and got another one who was much more

> > > open to discuss alternates, maybe not agree completely, but I

> feel

> > > like she considers me a partner in managing my health. I decided

> to

> > > quit the Rebif after a year and after I my last annual MRI

> showed no

> > > new activity and a lumber puncture came back negative!! I

> decided

> > > that if my condition would worsen that I would consider starting

> > > again, but I truly believe taking care of myself dietwise and

> > > supplementing with vitamins is a key in stopping the progression.

> > >

> > > In summary, I made the following changes over a year period and

> have

> > > seen real benefits during this time.

> > >

> > > 1.) I follow an extremely low fat diet as detailed by Dr. Swank,

> > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594480931/sr=8-

> > > 4/qid=1152844043/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-3411947-5635924?ie=UTF8

> > >

> > > 2.) I take high dosages of vitamins as detailed by a board

> certified

> > > neurologist, Perlmutter, who describes studies which indicate a

> > > beneficial impact on neurological functions.

> > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1594480931/sr=8-

> > > 4/qid=1152844043/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-3411947-5635924?ie=UTF8

> > >

> > > 3.) I practice hatha yoga on a very routine basis

> > >

> > > 4.) I try to meditate regularly; however, I do struggle with

> this.

> > >

> > > 5.) I do not eat any processed foods and concentrate on whole

> > > organic foods.

> > >

> > > 6.) I follow a pitta balancing ayurvedic lifestyle

> > >

> > > 7.) I concentrate on practicing yamas and niyamas

> > >

> > > Amazingly, I do not take any medicines anymore. I do not get

> sick

> > > like I use to. I do not get headaches. My allergies are much

> less.

> > > And although, I still get occasionally numbness and tingling, it

> is

> > > not getting worse. However, recently it seems a bit more and I

> do

> > > tend to fatigue easier. But it does not bother me that much. I

> do

> > > not define myself as my MS. It is a symptom of my karma, of my

> > > flawed human body, but I am not my body, I am not MS.

> > >

> > > I have been extremely blessed and do not believe I would be

> living

> > > the life I have had it not be for this diagnosis. I realize that

> > > physically things could change very quickly as the nature of MS

> is

> > > so unpredictable. However, my concern since my diagnosis has

> been

> > > broadened to include more than just this life; it has allowed me

> to

> > > re-focus my efforts in a manner which I never would have

> > > comprehended ten years ago. I am hoping my efforts now will

> allow me

> > > to face the inevitable decline of my physical body when the time

> > > comes with strength, courage and wisdom.

> > >

> > > Namaste,

> > >

> > > Charles

> > >

> > > For those who suffer with MS, I urge you to at least look into

> the

> > > links I mentioned above. I truly believe these methods can help

> > > lessen the impact.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear PRK,

 

I just saw tonight that Sean did an excellent free

reading for you and so I'm not going to go ahead

and try to duplicate his efforts with a report

emphasizing some of the same essential points.

Don't be disappointed. Just put some of his suggestions

to good use and your condition will improve.

Nevertheless, I do have a few comments.

 

If it were me I'd make sure that I had an adequate

intake of fluids every day and even carry around a

bottle of filtered water at all times. Cancer lagnas

can greatly benefit from such simple measures.

 

You need to live in an harmonious job location and

make sure your system isn't too toxic or acid. Cancer

is an acid condition and your kidneys may be

repeatedly trying to process substances it can't

handle. Do what you can to balance out the PH in

the blood and body through liquids, diet and nutrition.

Cancer is not just a matter of fate or genetics; I believe

it can be helped with life-style choices as well.

 

Strengthening measures for your Moon--pearl,

mantras, colors or yagnas--are recommended,

because in your D6 divisional health chart the

Moon is debilitated in Scorpio and indicates the

impact of emotional turbulence on the body.

However, the basic lordship of the 1L in 1H is

excellent and supports the recuperative abilities

of the body.

 

Strengthening and balancing measures for Mars

would also be helpful to temper impatience and

conflicts with others. I'm sure you know what they

are.

 

Saturn as 8L of surgery aspecting the 2H of the

throat area shows the problems there and the

operations. Jupiter, tumors, as 6L of ill-health

is located in the 2H of the throat. Venus representing

the glandular function in the throat is placed in the

12H of weaknesses and also weak by being in the very

early degree of Gemini. Venus is also the planet of

happiness and so is the 4H where Rahu afflicts the

cusp of the 4th. So the unhappiness, contentment

factor is something to manage. Your spiritual practices

should help a great deal in this regard.

 

Your Venus-Rahu period showed your domestic

unhappiness and stress because of a difficult

relocation. Venus-Jupiter can indicate possible

health problems because of excesses or philosophical

differences with others. But these can be managed too.

 

Saturn in Scorpio can indicate colon toxicity or your

system may be reabsorbing toxins. Some doctors

think having colonics have no value, but if it were

me I'd make sure my intestinal area and colon were

periodically cleaned out, especially until your overall

health is fully stabilized. There are also herbal cleanses

that are good for the colon and bowel. I'm talking about

more than whether you might happen to be constipated

or not. Toxins can result from environmental factors,

including in the home. Interesting that toxic Rahu is in

the 4H of the home environment. So you might want to

start there and dump any solvents or whatever if they

happen to be around, or consider past exposure. There

are also pesticides in foods and chemical exposure at

work. It might be a good idea to find out if you are

having any toxic or allergic responses to them, if you

haven't already.

 

What I'm suggesting are methods used in integrative

or holistic medicine to support the overall health of the

body, and the body's immune functions, rather than just

attack the symptoms through surgery when they manifest.

Since I'm not of the standard medical model--though I

respect its use in crisis intervention--I imagine you will

most likely think these recommendations are naïve or

ridiculous. That's okay, and everyone must make up his

mind for himself, one hopes after looking into them further.

I hope you do, because you have the chart of a fine surgeon:

3L of the hands in the 10H of the profession, and Mercury

of the hands with magical Ketu. You probably pray before

you operate and ask for guidance. That's excellent all the

way around.

 

I hole this suffices and I wish you the best of health and

success in the coming years and months.

 

Sincerely, Haizen Paige

 

 

 

 

, "Sean Patrick Kelly" <toosean wrote:

>

> Dear P.R.K. Prasad,

>

> Namaste

>

> I would need to defer to qualified astrologers for better insight,

> but here is what I can write from my view:

>

> From my limited knowledge I do not see the heath difficulties clearly

> in your chart because lagnesh Moon is in lagna with no affliction by

> aspect or conjuction of malefics.

>

> Both of the health issues you've mentioned are primarily Kapha

> related and the Kapha nature is seen clearly by your Lagna. So that

> part does make sense to me.

>

> The only health indicator that is afflicted as far as I can tell is

> Sun who is afflicted by Saturn (7th & 8th lord). Therefor, I would

> think that your health issues must be indicated in your chart by this

> Sun/Saturn mutual aspect. And this what Prashant Kumar has already

> posted.

>

> To add to what Prashant has written:

>

> Sun is 2nd lord and the 2nd house may indicate the throat.

> The 2nd house is occupied by Jupiter and this may indicate the

> unchecked accumalation in the throat (tumor). Perhaps as 6th lord

> Jupiter can indeed indicate this issue. Though, I would not have

> predicted it because Jupiter is the benefic 9th lord. Saturn's

> aspect on the 2nd house is more clearly malefic.

>

> If we look at your chart from the Sun Lagna, the afflicition of 2nd

> house by 6th lord is repeated. And here again the 6th lord (Venus

> this time) s/b mostly a benefic due to also being Lagnesh. And,again,

> a second affliction from a clearly malefic planet (Mars as 7th/12th

> lord) is there as well. Also from the Sun lagna, the affliction of

> 2nd lord is repeated.

>

> So from all three lagnas, the 2nd house and 2nd lord are afflicted.

>

> Though, some 2nd house indications must be very good for you as well

> due to the mixed lordship of Jupiter as seen from the Ascendant &

> Moon lagnas, and the mixed lordship of Venus as seen from the Sun

> lagna.

>

> At any rate, I think it may be safe to say that in addition to

> Taurus, 2nd house & 2nd lord are the indicators of the throat tumor

> you went through.

>

> The ureteric stones would be related to Scorpio, 8th house & 8th

> lord.

>

> Therefor, what Prashant said about the Taurus/Scorpio axis makes a

> great deal of sense to me. And in your chart there is a great deal

> of confluence for these issues -- 2nd lord is in Taurus in mutual

> aspect with 8th lord in Scorpio and the 2/8 axis is afflicted from

> all 3 lagnas.

>

> A Kapha pacifying diet is most likely what an Ayurvedic physician

> would recommend. All three lagnas are in Kapha signs (Cancer &

> Taurus) and from each lagna a strongly Kapha planet (Jupiter & Venus)

> is placed in the 2nd house.

>

> By the way, my teacher of Ayurveda would surely recommend daily

> gargling with triphala water.

>

> I stress again that I am a beginner and by no means a qualified

> astrologer or an Ayurvedic phyisician so please take the comments

> with a grain of salt.

>

> Take it easy,

> Sean

>

>

>

> , "P.R.K. Prasad"

> <aarkepee@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sean,

> > Can you analyse my chart & tell me why I had a malignant throat

> tumour & Ureteric stones ?

> > My date of birth is 02nd June 1957 at 10.36 am IST at

> VIJAYAWADA,ANDHRA PRADESH,INDIA.I am A cancer subject by lagna as

> well as Rasi withJupiter in Leo,Rahu in 4th house(Libra) ,Saturn in

> 5th house (Scorpio),Mercury & Ketu in Aries with Sun in Taurua &

> venus with Mars in Gemini (12th house) ?

> >

> >

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