Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Mr. Chopra, Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant rate or does it vary over a period of time? RR , "Tarun Chopra" <occultwizard.tarun wrote: > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other ayanamsha are wrong > totaly. > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but there is one thing > acuracy you will find that if you use > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate is > 50.2719seconds / year > * > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a event precise > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see if the dasha is > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that date. this is > what i am telling people right now > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you are using but > do consider this one also > > regards > > Tarun Chopra > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om wrote: > > > > ISBN: SP81950034 > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > > Description: > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and had mastered > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa apart from > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the present work, > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, Kuja Nadi, (Guru > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, Sarva Nadi and > > > > > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically different. Just > > radically better. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Dear Tarun Chopra ji, Please read Usha Shashi's Hindu Astrological Calculations and some more articles for gaining understanding on the basis of ayanamsha annual rates. Unless Govt of India has managed to remove the variations in velocity of the polar wobble as accepted by astrophysicists all over the place, annual rate of ayanamsha must vary though by a small amount which is probably nothing in recent times compared to the drastic resetting of the orientation point of aries zero, itself! Good luck with your 'mission'! RR , "Tarun Chopra" <occultwizard.tarun wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ranjan > i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by Indian govt > the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > > Tarun Chopra > > On 7/9/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > > Mr. Chopra, > > > > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant rate > > or does it vary over a period of time? > > > > RR > > > > <% 40>, > > "Tarun Chopra" > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other ayanamsha > > are wrong > > > totaly. > > > > > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but there is > > one thing > > > acuracy you will find that if you use > > > > > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate is > > > 50.2719seconds / year > > > * > > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > > event precise > > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see if the > > dasha is > > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that date. > > this is > > > what i am telling people right now > > > > > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you are > > using but > > > do consider this one also > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> wrote: > > > > > > > > ISBN: SP81950034 > > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > > > > Description: > > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and had > > mastered > > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa apart > > from > > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the present > > work, > > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, Kuja > > Nadi, (Guru > > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > > Sarva Nadi and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > > different. Just > > > > radically better. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of ayanamsha,bt the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other fellow friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a different picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a month fo other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!!we shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking for som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much earlier also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within weeks or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not say hes rubbish..we shall try using it once.. i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no intentions of doing so.. regards crusader , "Tarun Chopra" <occultwizard.tarun wrote: > > Dear Rohini Ranjan > i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by Indian govt > the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > > Tarun Chopra > > On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani wrote: > > > > Mr. Chopra, > > > > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant rate > > or does it vary over a period of time? > > > > RR > > > > --- In <%40>, > > "Tarun Chopra" > > occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other ayanamsha > > are wrong > > > totaly. > > > > > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but there is > > one thing > > > acuracy you will find that if you use > > > > > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate is > > > 50.2719seconds / year > > > * > > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > > event precise > > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see if the > > dasha is > > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that date. > > this is > > > what i am telling people right now > > > > > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you are > > using but > > > do consider this one also > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: > > > > > > > > ISBN: SP81950034 > > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > > > > Description: > > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and had > > mastered > > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa apart > > from > > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the present > > work, > > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, Kuja > > Nadi, (Guru > > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > > Sarva Nadi and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > > different. Just > > > > radically better. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Dear Compassion Crusader, What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is really being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full information sincerely, are willing to listen. So, will you share more? RR , "compassion_crusader" <astro_guide wrote: > > > Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, > > I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt > discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of ayanamsha,bt > the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other fellow > friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a different > picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES > PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a month fo > other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!! we > shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking for > som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much earlier > also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within weeks > or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not say hes > rubbish..we shall try using it once.. > > i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no > intentions of doing so.. > > regards > > crusader > > > > > > > > > , "Tarun Chopra" > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan > > i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by Indian > govt > > the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: > > > > > > Mr. Chopra, > > > > > > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant > rate > > > or does it vary over a period of time? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > --- In > <% 40>, > > > "Tarun Chopra" > > > occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other ayanamsha > > > are wrong > > > > totaly. > > > > > > > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but there is > > > one thing > > > > acuracy you will find that if you use > > > > > > > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate is > > > > 50.2719seconds / year > > > > * > > > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > > > event precise > > > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see if > the > > > dasha is > > > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that date. > > > this is > > > > what i am telling people right now > > > > > > > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you are > > > using but > > > > do consider this one also > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ISBN: SP81950034 > > > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > > > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > > > > > Description: > > > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and had > > > mastered > > > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa apart > > > from > > > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the > present > > > work, > > > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, Kuja > > > Nadi, (Guru > > > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > > > Sarva Nadi and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > > > different. Just > > > > > radically better. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Namaste rohiniji, well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji wot i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going around to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail them and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru his ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed that astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down conclusions and results thru any chart.. See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him initially that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the years r fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries out wid rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in astrology,the other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use for raksha bandhan and all are rong.. Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my whole career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri i see a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my fellow frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all made him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he came up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS HAPPENED TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL AND YES MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a month back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own where he answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts through it.I would request you all that go through what this man has to say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it to be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and be little more observant. If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any issues then i do not mind that 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try to get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am ready to participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to post anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for sercing people for so long. thank u for making me post it feels good regards Rishav graha_nakshatra <graha_nakshatra> , "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Compassion Crusader, > > What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! > I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I > felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is really > being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. > Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean > that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. > > I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate > and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is > wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more > details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did > find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i > sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you > have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. > > You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all > experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full > information sincerely, are willing to listen. > > So, will you share more? > > RR > > > , "compassion_crusader" > astro_guide@ wrote: > > > > > > Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, > > > > I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt > > discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of > ayanamsha,bt > > the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other > fellow > > friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a > different > > picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES > > PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a > month fo > > other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!! > we > > shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking > for > > som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much > earlier > > also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within > weeks > > or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not > say hes > > rubbish..we shall try using it once.. > > > > i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no > > intentions of doing so.. > > > > regards > > > > crusader > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Tarun Chopra" > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan > > > i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by > Indian > > govt > > > the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr. Chopra, > > > > > > > > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant > > rate > > > > or does it vary over a period of time? > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > --- In > > <% > 40>, > > > > "Tarun Chopra" > > > > occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other > ayanamsha > > > > are wrong > > > > > totaly. > > > > > > > > > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but > there is > > > > one thing > > > > > acuracy you will find that if you use > > > > > > > > > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate > is > > > > > 50.2719seconds / year > > > > > * > > > > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > > > > event precise > > > > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see > if > > the > > > > dasha is > > > > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that > date. > > > > this is > > > > > what i am telling people right now > > > > > > > > > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you > are > > > > using but > > > > > do consider this one also > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ISBN: SP81950034 > > > > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > > > > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > > > > > > Description: > > > > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and > had > > > > mastered > > > > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa > apart > > > > from > > > > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the > > present > > > > work, > > > > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, > Kuja > > > > Nadi, (Guru > > > > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > > > > Sarva Nadi and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > > > > different. Just > > > > > > radically better. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Rishav, Somehow I was expecting a more pointed message from you giving birthdata, events and dashas you used and thus show everyone the efficacy of this ayanamsha. Particularly since you seemed so convinced. When a strong claim is made, one must corroborate that and not the otherway round. This obfuscates the picture and does not really help the cause that you have taken upon yourself to crusade about :-) Hopefully you will not take this as a challenge or insult, but I think all of us will really appreciate a data-event-periods kind of list, specially after such strong claims have been made that one need only to look at the period or sub-lords etc and the truth will lie revealed. I had posted a horoscope with couple of dates (30041 or 28708) back in may or june. Neither the proponent nor the believers responded. What is one to deduce then? RR , "compassion_crusader" <astro_guide wrote: > > > Namaste rohiniji, > > well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly > influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji wot > i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going around > to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail them > and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru his > ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed that > astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down conclusions > and results thru any chart.. > > See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him initially > that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the years r > fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i > though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries out wid > rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in astrology,the > other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use for > raksha bandhan and all are rong.. > > Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my whole > career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri i see > a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my fellow > frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all made > him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he came > up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS HAPPENED > TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL AND YES > MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND > 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. > > As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a month > back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own where he > answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts > through it.I would request you all that go through what this man has to > say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it to > be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and be > little more observant. > > If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any > issues then i do not mind that > > 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta > > This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned > people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try to > get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. > > I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am ready to > participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to post > anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN > UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for > sercing people for so long. > > thank u for making me post it feels good > > regards > > Rishav > > graha_nakshatra > <graha_nakshatra> > > > > > , "crystal pages" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Compassion Crusader, > > > > What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! > > I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I > > felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is really > > being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. > > Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean > > that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. > > > > I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate > > and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is > > wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more > > details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did > > find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i > > sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you > > have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. > > > > You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all > > experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full > > information sincerely, are willing to listen. > > > > So, will you share more? > > > > RR > > > > > > , "compassion_crusader" > > astro_guide@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, > > > > > > I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt > > > discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of > > ayanamsha,bt > > > the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other > > fellow > > > friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a > > different > > > picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES > > > PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a > > month fo > > > other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!! > > we > > > shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking > > for > > > som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much > > earlier > > > also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within > > weeks > > > or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not > > say hes > > > rubbish..we shall try using it once.. > > > > > > i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no > > > intentions of doing so.. > > > > > > regards > > > > > > crusader > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Tarun Chopra" > > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan > > > > i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by > > Indian > > > govt > > > > the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > > > On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Chopra, > > > > > > > > > > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant > > > rate > > > > > or does it vary over a period of time? > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > > <% > > 40>, > > > > > "Tarun Chopra" > > > > > occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other > > ayanamsha > > > > > are wrong > > > > > > totaly. > > > > > > > > > > > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but > > there is > > > > > one thing > > > > > > acuracy you will find that if you use > > > > > > > > > > > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate > > is > > > > > > 50.2719seconds / year > > > > > > * > > > > > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > > > > > event precise > > > > > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see > > if > > > the > > > > > dasha is > > > > > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that > > date. > > > > > this is > > > > > > what i am telling people right now > > > > > > > > > > > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you > > are > > > > > using but > > > > > > do consider this one also > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ISBN: SP81950034 > > > > > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > > > > > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > > > > > > > Description: > > > > > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and > > had > > > > > mastered > > > > > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa > > apart > > > > > from > > > > > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the > > > present > > > > > work, > > > > > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, > > Kuja > > > > > Nadi, (Guru > > > > > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > > > > > Sarva Nadi and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > > > > > different. Just > > > > > > > radically better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Dear Rishav Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his own Forum, where I requested him to predict. and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also share the events alongwith TA chart. I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling of Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail. regards / Prafulla Gang Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com > Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000 > > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha ?] > > > Namaste rohiniji, > > well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly > influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji wot > i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going around > to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail them > and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru his > ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed that > astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down conclusions > and results thru any chart.. > > See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him initially > that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the years r > fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i > though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries out wid > rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in astrology,the > other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use for > raksha bandhan and all are rong.. > > Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my whole > career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri i see > a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my fellow > frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all made > him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he came > up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS HAPPENED > TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL AND YES > MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND > 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. > > As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a month > back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own where he > answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts > through it.I would request you all that go through what this man has to > say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it to > be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and be > little more observant. > > If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any > issues then i do not mind that > > 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta > > This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned > people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try to > get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. > > I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am ready to > participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to post > anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN > UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for > sercing people for so long. > > thank u for making me post it feels good > > regards > > Rishav > > graha_nakshatra > <graha_nakshatra> > > > > > , "crystal pages" > <jyotish_vani wrote: >> >> Dear Compassion Crusader, >> >> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! >> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I >> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is really >> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. >> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean >> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. >> >> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate >> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is >> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more >> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did >> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i >> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you >> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. >> >> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all >> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full >> information sincerely, are willing to listen. >> >> So, will you share more? >> >> RR >> >> >> , "compassion_crusader" >> astro_guide@ wrote: >>> >>> >>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, >>> >>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt >>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of >> ayanamsha,bt >>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other >> fellow >>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a >> different >>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES >>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a >> month fo >>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!! >> we >>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking >> for >>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much >> earlier >>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within >> weeks >>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not >> say hes >>> rubbish..we shall try using it once.. >>> >>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no >>> intentions of doing so.. >>> >>> regards >>> >>> crusader >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> , "Tarun Chopra" >>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan >>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by >> Indian >>> govt >>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 >>>> >>>> Tarun Chopra >>>> >>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Mr. Chopra, >>>>> >>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant >>> rate >>>>> or does it vary over a period of time? >>>>> >>>>> RR >>>>> >>>>> --- In >>> <% >> 40>, >>>>> "Tarun Chopra" >>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other >> ayanamsha >>>>> are wrong >>>>>> totaly. >>>>>> >>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but >> there is >>>>> one thing >>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use >>>>>> >>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate >> is >>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year >>>>>> * >>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a >>>>> event precise >>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see >> if >>> the >>>>> dasha is >>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that >> date. >>>>> this is >>>>>> what i am telling people right now >>>>>> >>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you >> are >>>>> using but >>>>>> do consider this one also >>>>>> >>>>>> regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Tarun Chopra >>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034 >>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi >>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50 >>>>>>> Description: >>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and >> had >>>>> mastered >>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa >> apart >>>>> from >>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the >>> present >>>>> work, >>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, >> Kuja >>>>> Nadi, (Guru >>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, >>>>> Sarva Nadi and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically >>>>> different. Just >>>>>>> radically better. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Respected prafullaji, First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave technical reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did u care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in it?2ndly sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it by writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it and cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and even that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded as my whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to create a debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and frnz...we never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved those details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can unfold anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha. Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can make all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if thers any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were very regular. And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group a group of fan mails.. I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god bless u tak care regards Rishav , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Rishav > > Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his own Forum, where I requested him to predict. > > and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also share the events alongwith TA chart. > > I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling of Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > > > > > astro_guide > > Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000 > > > > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha ?] > > > > > > Namaste rohiniji, > > > > well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly > > influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji wot > > i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going around > > to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail them > > and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru his > > ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed that > > astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down conclusions > > and results thru any chart.. > > > > See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him initially > > that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the years r > > fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i > > though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries out wid > > rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in astrology,the > > other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use for > > raksha bandhan and all are rong.. > > > > Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my whole > > career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri i see > > a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my fellow > > frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all made > > him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he came > > up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS HAPPENED > > TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL AND YES > > MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND > > 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. > > > > As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a month > > back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own where he > > answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts > > through it.I would request you all that go through what this man has to > > say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it to > > be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and be > > little more observant. > > > > If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any > > issues then i do not mind that > > > > 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta > > > > This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned > > people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try to > > get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. > > > > I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am ready to > > participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to post > > anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN > > UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for > > sercing people for so long. > > > > thank u for making me post it feels good > > > > regards > > > > Rishav > > > > graha_nakshatra > > <graha_nakshatra> > > > > > > > > > > , "crystal pages" > > jyotish_vani@ wrote: > >> > >> Dear Compassion Crusader, > >> > >> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! > >> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I > >> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is really > >> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. > >> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean > >> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. > >> > >> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate > >> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is > >> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more > >> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did > >> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i > >> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you > >> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. > >> > >> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all > >> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full > >> information sincerely, are willing to listen. > >> > >> So, will you share more? > >> > >> RR > >> > >> > >> , "compassion_crusader" > >> astro_guide@ wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, > >>> > >>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt > >>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of > >> ayanamsha,bt > >>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other > >> fellow > >>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a > >> different > >>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES > >>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a > >> month fo > >>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!! > >> we > >>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking > >> for > >>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much > >> earlier > >>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within > >> weeks > >>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not > >> say hes > >>> rubbish..we shall try using it once.. > >>> > >>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no > >>> intentions of doing so.. > >>> > >>> regards > >>> > >>> crusader > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , "Tarun Chopra" > >>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan > >>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by > >> Indian > >>> govt > >>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > >>>> > >>>> Tarun Chopra > >>>> > >>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Mr. Chopra, > >>>>> > >>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant > >>> rate > >>>>> or does it vary over a period of time? > >>>>> > >>>>> RR > >>>>> > >>>>> --- In > >>> <% > >> 40>, > >>>>> "Tarun Chopra" > >>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other > >> ayanamsha > >>>>> are wrong > >>>>>> totaly. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but > >> there is > >>>>> one thing > >>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use > >>>>>> > >>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate > >> is > >>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year > >>>>>> * > >>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > >>>>> event precise > >>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see > >> if > >>> the > >>>>> dasha is > >>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that > >> date. > >>>>> this is > >>>>>> what i am telling people right now > >>>>>> > >>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you > >> are > >>>>> using but > >>>>>> do consider this one also > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tarun Chopra > >>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034 > >>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > >>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > >>>>>>> Description: > >>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and > >> had > >>>>> mastered > >>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa > >> apart > >>>>> from > >>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the > >>> present > >>>>> work, > >>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, > >> Kuja > >>>>> Nadi, (Guru > >>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > >>>>> Sarva Nadi and > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > >>>>> different. Just > >>>>>>> radically better. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Dear Rishav ji Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements warranted me to put few clarifications - I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets and past events. There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener for that eventuality. Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum) asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning). So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought. But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) - You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me.. I am still there and still waiting!!!!!! Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory. My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention. regards / Prafulla Gang Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000 > > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha ?] > > > Respected prafullaji, > > First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of > mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave technical > reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him > answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did u > care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in it?2ndly > sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it by > writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it and > cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and even > that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded as my > whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to create a > debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and frnz...we > never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved those > details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can unfold > anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha. > > Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean > abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can make > all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way > which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not > REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if thers > any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud > repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were very > regular. > > And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group a > group of fan mails.. > > I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god bless > u > > tak care > > regards > > Rishav > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Rishav >> >> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum > thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by > Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical > answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his own > Forum, where I requested him to predict. >> >> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for > jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also > share the events alongwith TA chart. >> >> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling of > Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. >> >> >>> >>> astro_guide >>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000 >>> >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > ayanamsha ?] >>> >>> >>> Namaste rohiniji, >>> >>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly >>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji > wot >>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going > around >>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail > them >>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru > his >>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed > that >>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down > conclusions >>> and results thru any chart.. >>> >>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him > initially >>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the > years r >>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i >>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries out > wid >>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in > astrology,the >>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use > for >>> raksha bandhan and all are rong.. >>> >>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my > whole >>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri i > see >>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my > fellow >>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all > made >>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he > came >>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS > HAPPENED >>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL AND > YES >>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND >>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. >>> >>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a > month >>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own > where he >>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts >>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man has > to >>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it > to >>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and > be >>> little more observant. >>> >>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any >>> issues then i do not mind that >>> >>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta >>> >>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned >>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try > to >>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. >>> >>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am ready > to >>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to > post >>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN >>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for >>> sercing people for so long. >>> >>> thank u for making me post it feels good >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Rishav >>> >>> graha_nakshatra >>> <graha_nakshatra> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> , "crystal pages" >>> jyotish_vani@ wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Compassion Crusader, >>>> >>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! >>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I >>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is > really >>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. >>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean >>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. >>>> >>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate >>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is >>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more >>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did >>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i >>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you >>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. >>>> >>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all >>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full >>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen. >>>> >>>> So, will you share more? >>>> >>>> RR >>>> >>>> >>>> , "compassion_crusader" >>>> astro_guide@ wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, >>>>> >>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt >>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of >>>> ayanamsha,bt >>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other >>>> fellow >>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a >>>> different >>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT > TAKES >>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a >>>> month fo >>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try > it!! >>>> we >>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking >>>> for >>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much >>>> earlier >>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within >>>> weeks >>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not >>>> say hes >>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once.. >>>>> >>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no >>>>> intentions of doing so.. >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> >>>>> crusader >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , "Tarun Chopra" >>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan >>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by >>>> Indian >>>>> govt >>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 >>>>>> >>>>>> Tarun Chopra >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mr. Chopra, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant >>>>> rate >>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RR >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- In >>>>> <% >>>> 40>, >>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra" >>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other >>>> ayanamsha >>>>>>> are wrong >>>>>>>> totaly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but >>>> there is >>>>>>> one thing >>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate >>>> is >>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year >>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a >>>>>>> event precise >>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see >>>> if >>>>> the >>>>>>> dasha is >>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that >>>> date. >>>>>>> this is >>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you >>>> are >>>>>>> using but >>>>>>>> do consider this one also >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034 >>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi >>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50 >>>>>>>>> Description: >>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and >>>> had >>>>>>> mastered >>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa >>>> apart >>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the >>>>> present >>>>>>> work, >>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, >>>> Kuja >>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru >>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, >>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically >>>>>>> different. Just >>>>>>>>> radically better. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Respected prafullaji.. Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and hav a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events thru wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give his views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing him..nor tarun ayanamsha i hope some sensible people understand my mails regards rishav , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Rishav ji > > Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements warranted me to put few clarifications - > > I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets and past events. > > There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener for that eventuality. > > Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum) asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning). So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought. But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) - You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me.. I am still there and still waiting!!!!!! > > Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory. My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > > > > > astro_guide > > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000 > > > > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha ?] > > > > > > Respected prafullaji, > > > > First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of > > mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave technical > > reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him > > answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did u > > care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in it?2ndly > > sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it by > > writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it and > > cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and even > > that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded as my > > whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to create a > > debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and frnz...we > > never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved those > > details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can unfold > > anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha. > > > > Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean > > abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can make > > all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way > > which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not > > REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if thers > > any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud > > repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were very > > regular. > > > > And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group a > > group of fan mails.. > > > > I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god bless > > u > > > > tak care > > > > regards > > > > Rishav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Rishav > >> > >> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum > > thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by > > Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical > > answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his own > > Forum, where I requested him to predict. > >> > >> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for > > jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also > > share the events alongwith TA chart. > >> > >> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling of > > Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> astro_guide@ > >>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > > ayanamsha ?] > >>> > >>> > >>> Namaste rohiniji, > >>> > >>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly > >>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji > > wot > >>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going > > around > >>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail > > them > >>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru > > his > >>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed > > that > >>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down > > conclusions > >>> and results thru any chart.. > >>> > >>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him > > initially > >>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the > > years r > >>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i > >>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries out > > wid > >>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in > > astrology,the > >>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use > > for > >>> raksha bandhan and all are rong.. > >>> > >>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my > > whole > >>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri i > > see > >>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my > > fellow > >>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all > > made > >>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he > > came > >>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS > > HAPPENED > >>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL AND > > YES > >>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND > >>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. > >>> > >>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a > > month > >>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own > > where he > >>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts > >>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man has > > to > >>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it > > to > >>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and > > be > >>> little more observant. > >>> > >>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any > >>> issues then i do not mind that > >>> > >>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta > >>> > >>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned > >>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try > > to > >>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. > >>> > >>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am ready > > to > >>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to > > post > >>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN > >>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for > >>> sercing people for so long. > >>> > >>> thank u for making me post it feels good > >>> > >>> regards > >>> > >>> Rishav > >>> > >>> graha_nakshatra > >>> <graha_nakshatra> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , "crystal pages" > >>> jyotish_vani@ wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Compassion Crusader, > >>>> > >>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! > >>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I > >>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is > > really > >>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. > >>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean > >>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. > >>>> > >>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate > >>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is > >>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more > >>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did > >>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i > >>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you > >>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. > >>>> > >>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all > >>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full > >>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen. > >>>> > >>>> So, will you share more? > >>>> > >>>> RR > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> , "compassion_crusader" > >>>> astro_guide@ wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, > >>>>> > >>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt > >>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of > >>>> ayanamsha,bt > >>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other > >>>> fellow > >>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a > >>>> different > >>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT > > TAKES > >>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a > >>>> month fo > >>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try > > it!! > >>>> we > >>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking > >>>> for > >>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much > >>>> earlier > >>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within > >>>> weeks > >>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not > >>>> say hes > >>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once.. > >>>>> > >>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no > >>>>> intentions of doing so.. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards > >>>>> > >>>>> crusader > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> , "Tarun Chopra" > >>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan > >>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by > >>>> Indian > >>>>> govt > >>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tarun Chopra > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Mr. Chopra, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant > >>>>> rate > >>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> RR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- In > >>>>> <% > >>>> 40>, > >>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra" > >>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other > >>>> ayanamsha > >>>>>>> are wrong > >>>>>>>> totaly. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but > >>>> there is > >>>>>>> one thing > >>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate > >>>> is > >>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year > >>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > >>>>>>> event precise > >>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see > >>>> if > >>>>> the > >>>>>>> dasha is > >>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that > >>>> date. > >>>>>>> this is > >>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you > >>>> are > >>>>>>> using but > >>>>>>>> do consider this one also > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra > >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034 > >>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > >>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > >>>>>>>>> Description: > >>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and > >>>> had > >>>>>>> mastered > >>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa > >>>> apart > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the > >>>>> present > >>>>>>> work, > >>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, > >>>> Kuja > >>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru > >>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > >>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > >>>>>>> different. Just > >>>>>>>>> radically better. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Respected prafullaji.. Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and hav a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events thru wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give his views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing him..nor tarun ayanamsha i hope some sensible people understand my mails regards rishav , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Rishav ji > > Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements warranted me to put few clarifications - > > I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets and past events. > > There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener for that eventuality. > > Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum) asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning). So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought. But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) - You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me.. I am still there and still waiting!!!!!! > > Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory. My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > > > > > astro_guide > > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000 > > > > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha ?] > > > > > > Respected prafullaji, > > > > First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of > > mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave technical > > reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him > > answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did u > > care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in it?2ndly > > sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it by > > writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it and > > cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and even > > that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded as my > > whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to create a > > debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and frnz...we > > never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved those > > details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can unfold > > anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha. > > > > Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean > > abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can make > > all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way > > which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not > > REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if thers > > any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud > > repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were very > > regular. > > > > And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group a > > group of fan mails.. > > > > I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god bless > > u > > > > tak care > > > > regards > > > > Rishav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Rishav > >> > >> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum > > thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by > > Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical > > answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his own > > Forum, where I requested him to predict. > >> > >> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for > > jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also > > share the events alongwith TA chart. > >> > >> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling of > > Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> astro_guide@ > >>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > > ayanamsha ?] > >>> > >>> > >>> Namaste rohiniji, > >>> > >>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly > >>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji > > wot > >>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going > > around > >>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail > > them > >>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru > > his > >>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed > > that > >>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down > > conclusions > >>> and results thru any chart.. > >>> > >>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him > > initially > >>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the > > years r > >>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i > >>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries out > > wid > >>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in > > astrology,the > >>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use > > for > >>> raksha bandhan and all are rong.. > >>> > >>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my > > whole > >>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri i > > see > >>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my > > fellow > >>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all > > made > >>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he > > came > >>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS > > HAPPENED > >>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL AND > > YES > >>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND > >>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. > >>> > >>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a > > month > >>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own > > where he > >>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts > >>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man has > > to > >>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it > > to > >>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and > > be > >>> little more observant. > >>> > >>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any > >>> issues then i do not mind that > >>> > >>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta > >>> > >>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned > >>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try > > to > >>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. > >>> > >>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am ready > > to > >>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to > > post > >>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN > >>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for > >>> sercing people for so long. > >>> > >>> thank u for making me post it feels good > >>> > >>> regards > >>> > >>> Rishav > >>> > >>> graha_nakshatra > >>> <graha_nakshatra> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , "crystal pages" > >>> jyotish_vani@ wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Compassion Crusader, > >>>> > >>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! > >>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I > >>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is > > really > >>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. > >>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean > >>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. > >>>> > >>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate > >>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is > >>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more > >>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did > >>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i > >>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you > >>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. > >>>> > >>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all > >>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full > >>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen. > >>>> > >>>> So, will you share more? > >>>> > >>>> RR > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> , "compassion_crusader" > >>>> astro_guide@ wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, > >>>>> > >>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt > >>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of > >>>> ayanamsha,bt > >>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other > >>>> fellow > >>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a > >>>> different > >>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT > > TAKES > >>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a > >>>> month fo > >>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try > > it!! > >>>> we > >>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking > >>>> for > >>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much > >>>> earlier > >>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within > >>>> weeks > >>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not > >>>> say hes > >>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once.. > >>>>> > >>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no > >>>>> intentions of doing so.. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards > >>>>> > >>>>> crusader > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> , "Tarun Chopra" > >>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan > >>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by > >>>> Indian > >>>>> govt > >>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Tarun Chopra > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Mr. Chopra, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant > >>>>> rate > >>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> RR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> --- In > >>>>> <% > >>>> 40>, > >>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra" > >>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other > >>>> ayanamsha > >>>>>>> are wrong > >>>>>>>> totaly. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but > >>>> there is > >>>>>>> one thing > >>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate > >>>> is > >>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year > >>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > >>>>>>> event precise > >>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see > >>>> if > >>>>> the > >>>>>>> dasha is > >>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that > >>>> date. > >>>>>>> this is > >>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you > >>>> are > >>>>>>> using but > >>>>>>>> do consider this one also > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra > >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034 > >>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > >>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > >>>>>>>>> Description: > >>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and > >>>> had > >>>>>>> mastered > >>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa > >>>> apart > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the > >>>>> present > >>>>>>> work, > >>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, > >>>> Kuja > >>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru > >>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > >>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > >>>>>>> different. Just > >>>>>>>>> radically better. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Dear Rishav Yes,I agree that mutual discussions should not be carried us to make personal statements against anyone. Sometimes, repeat hard selling frustrates..and it frustrates more, if it is compounded by the facts that, it is expected to be followed without validation notes (in recent mail, Tarun ji again refused to justify..but wants to hard sell it) and followed closely (coincidently!!!) by fan mails. But best way forward could be to ignore such mails either way. It is good that, no one in publishing their private conversations with Tarun ji (good to maintain that privacy). I can assure you that, I have no personal ill feelings with any individual (including Tarun Ji), theory (incuding TA) and specifically with you. Afterall, there is no reason for any such feelings. and I am quite hopeful that ( except disgust) Shri Kumar ji also does not hold any such with any one. regards / Prafulla Gang Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:26:03 -0000 > > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha ?] > > > Respected prafullaji.. > > Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get > cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to > once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i > told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it > was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is > handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and hav > a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik > JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i > myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events thru > wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give his > views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a > junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing > him..nor tarun ayanamsha > > i hope some sensible people understand my mails > > regards > > rishav > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Rishav ji >> >> Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements > warranted me to put few clarifications - >> >> I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand > his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to > vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the > contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for > reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets > and past events. >> >> There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his > TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the > archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who > relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener > for that eventuality. >> >> Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum) > asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the > validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser > luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not > questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I > told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and > it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning). > So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can > certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought. > But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) - > You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions > and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me.. > I am still there and still waiting!!!!!! >> >> Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory. > My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. >> >> >>> >>> astro_guide >>> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000 >>> >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > ayanamsha ?] >>> >>> >>> Respected prafullaji, >>> >>> First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of >>> mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave > technical >>> reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him >>> answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did > u >>> care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in > it?2ndly >>> sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it > by >>> writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it > and >>> cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and > even >>> that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded > as my >>> whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to > create a >>> debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and > frnz...we >>> never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved > those >>> details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can > unfold >>> anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha. >>> >>> Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean >>> abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can > make >>> all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way >>> which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not >>> REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if > thers >>> any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud >>> repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were > very >>> regular. >>> >>> And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group > a >>> group of fan mails.. >>> >>> I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god > bless >>> u >>> >>> tak care >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Rishav >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Rishav >>>> >>>> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum >>> thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by >>> Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical >>> answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his > own >>> Forum, where I requested him to predict. >>>> >>>> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for >>> jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also >>> share the events alongwith TA chart. >>>> >>>> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling > of >>> Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> astro_guide@ >>>>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000 >>>>> >>>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC >>> ayanamsha ?] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Namaste rohiniji, >>>>> >>>>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been > greatly >>>>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see > rohiniji >>> wot >>>>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going >>> around >>>>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to > mail >>> them >>>>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen > thru >>> his >>>>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed >>> that >>>>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down >>> conclusions >>>>> and results thru any chart.. >>>>> >>>>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him >>> initially >>>>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the >>> years r >>>>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i >>>>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries > out >>> wid >>>>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in >>> astrology,the >>>>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we > use >>> for >>>>> raksha bandhan and all are rong.. >>>>> >>>>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my >>> whole >>>>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri > i >>> see >>>>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my >>> fellow >>>>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all >>> made >>>>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he >>> came >>>>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS >>> HAPPENED >>>>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL > AND >>> YES >>>>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES > AND >>>>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. >>>>> >>>>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a >>> month >>>>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own >>> where he >>>>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even > charts >>>>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man > has >>> to >>>>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume > it >>> to >>>>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science > and >>> be >>>>> little more observant. >>>>> >>>>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any >>>>> issues then i do not mind that >>>>> >>>>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta >>>>> >>>>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such > learned >>>>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and > try >>> to >>>>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. >>>>> >>>>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am > ready >>> to >>>>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr > to >>> post >>>>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN >>>>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all > for >>>>> sercing people for so long. >>>>> >>>>> thank u for making me post it feels good >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> >>>>> Rishav >>>>> >>>>> graha_nakshatra >>>>> <graha_nakshatra> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> , "crystal pages" >>>>> jyotish_vani@ wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Compassion Crusader, >>>>>> >>>>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! >>>>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, > I >>>>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is >>> really >>>>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. >>>>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean >>>>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. >>>>>> >>>>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to > illustrate >>>>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is >>>>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum > more >>>>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you > did >>>>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i >>>>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like > you >>>>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. >>>>>> >>>>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are > all >>>>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full >>>>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, will you share more? >>>>>> >>>>>> RR >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> , "compassion_crusader" >>>>>> astro_guide@ wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt >>>>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of >>>>>> ayanamsha,bt >>>>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my > other >>>>>> fellow >>>>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a >>>>>> different >>>>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT >>> TAKES >>>>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a >>>>>> month fo >>>>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try >>> it!! >>>>>> we >>>>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes > looking >>>>>> for >>>>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much >>>>>> earlier >>>>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within >>>>>> weeks >>>>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not >>>>>> say hes >>>>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no >>>>>>> intentions of doing so.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> crusader >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> , "Tarun Chopra" >>>>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan >>>>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by >>>>>> Indian >>>>>>> govt >>>>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mr. Chopra, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a > constant >>>>>>> rate >>>>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> RR >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- In >>>>>>> <% >>>>>> 40>, >>>>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra" >>>>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other >>>>>> ayanamsha >>>>>>>>> are wrong >>>>>>>>>> totaly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but >>>>>> there is >>>>>>>>> one thing >>>>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate >>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a >>>>>>>>> event precise >>>>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see >>>>>> if >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> dasha is >>>>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that >>>>>> date. >>>>>>>>> this is >>>>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you >>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> using but >>>>>>>>>> do consider this one also >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra >>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034 >>>>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi >>>>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50 >>>>>>>>>>> Description: >>>>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and >>>>>> had >>>>>>>>> mastered >>>>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa >>>>>> apart >>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the >>>>>>> present >>>>>>>>> work, >>>>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, >>>>>> Kuja >>>>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru >>>>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, >>>>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically >>>>>>>>> different. Just >>>>>>>>>>> radically better. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Dear prafullaji, Thx for understanding me and i gr8ly respect prashant ji too alongside u ...bt it was painful to b called JIHADI in a forum wher i was just having a health discussion AND HOLLOW DEFENSE..I would rather hav appreciated to b encouraged by seniors lik u all as i clearly mentioned i am too new to give technical reasons..i mentioned my age also,21!Now sir as u called it out of frustration maybe tarunji took such step put of the same emotional turmoil,its just an assumption! If i wud have been a hollow man i would have nevr replied to mails...i cud hav easily waited till people forget the issue...hence i request you all to take me as a younger brother of you all and guide me ..Astrology is not my profession its jst a hobby i m persuing as i hav som freedon of time.. If by any chance i offended ne individual of this group,i am sorry for that bt pls respect others identity and their emotions and do not command them. thank u regards RIshav , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Rishav > > Yes,I agree that mutual discussions should not be carried us to make personal statements against anyone. > > Sometimes, repeat hard selling frustrates..and it frustrates more, if it is compounded by the facts that, it is expected to be followed without validation notes (in recent mail, Tarun ji again refused to justify..but wants to hard sell it) and followed closely (coincidently!!!) by fan mails. But best way forward could be to ignore such mails either way. > > It is good that, no one in publishing their private conversations with Tarun ji (good to maintain that privacy). > > I can assure you that, I have no personal ill feelings with any individual (including Tarun Ji), theory (incuding TA) and specifically with you. Afterall, there is no reason for any such feelings. and I am quite hopeful that ( except disgust) Shri Kumar ji also does not hold any such with any one. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > > > > > astro_guide > > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:26:03 -0000 > > > > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha ?] > > > > > > Respected prafullaji.. > > > > Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get > > cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to > > once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i > > told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it > > was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is > > handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and hav > > a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik > > JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i > > myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events thru > > wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give his > > views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a > > junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing > > him..nor tarun ayanamsha > > > > i hope some sensible people understand my mails > > > > regards > > > > rishav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Rishav ji > >> > >> Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements > > warranted me to put few clarifications - > >> > >> I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand > > his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to > > vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the > > contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for > > reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets > > and past events. > >> > >> There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his > > TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the > > archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who > > relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener > > for that eventuality. > >> > >> Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum) > > asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the > > validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser > > luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not > > questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I > > told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and > > it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning). > > So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can > > certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought. > > But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) - > > You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions > > and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me.. > > I am still there and still waiting!!!!!! > >> > >> Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory. > > My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> astro_guide@ > >>> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > > ayanamsha ?] > >>> > >>> > >>> Respected prafullaji, > >>> > >>> First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of > >>> mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave > > technical > >>> reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him > >>> answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did > > u > >>> care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in > > it?2ndly > >>> sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it > > by > >>> writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it > > and > >>> cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and > > even > >>> that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded > > as my > >>> whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to > > create a > >>> debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and > > frnz...we > >>> never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved > > those > >>> details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can > > unfold > >>> anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha. > >>> > >>> Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean > >>> abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can > > make > >>> all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way > >>> which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not > >>> REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if > > thers > >>> any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud > >>> repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were > > very > >>> regular. > >>> > >>> And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group > > a > >>> group of fan mails.. > >>> > >>> I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god > > bless > >>> u > >>> > >>> tak care > >>> > >>> regards > >>> > >>> Rishav > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Rishav > >>>> > >>>> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum > >>> thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by > >>> Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical > >>> answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his > > own > >>> Forum, where I requested him to predict. > >>>> > >>>> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for > >>> jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also > >>> share the events alongwith TA chart. > >>>> > >>>> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling > > of > >>> Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail. > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> astro_guide@ > >>>>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000 > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > >>> ayanamsha ?] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Namaste rohiniji, > >>>>> > >>>>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been > > greatly > >>>>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see > > rohiniji > >>> wot > >>>>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going > >>> around > >>>>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to > > mail > >>> them > >>>>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen > > thru > >>> his > >>>>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed > >>> that > >>>>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down > >>> conclusions > >>>>> and results thru any chart.. > >>>>> > >>>>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him > >>> initially > >>>>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the > >>> years r > >>>>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i > >>>>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries > > out > >>> wid > >>>>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in > >>> astrology,the > >>>>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we > > use > >>> for > >>>>> raksha bandhan and all are rong.. > >>>>> > >>>>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my > >>> whole > >>>>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri > > i > >>> see > >>>>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my > >>> fellow > >>>>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all > >>> made > >>>>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he > >>> came > >>>>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS > >>> HAPPENED > >>>>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL > > AND > >>> YES > >>>>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES > > AND > >>>>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. > >>>>> > >>>>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a > >>> month > >>>>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own > >>> where he > >>>>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even > > charts > >>>>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man > > has > >>> to > >>>>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume > > it > >>> to > >>>>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science > > and > >>> be > >>>>> little more observant. > >>>>> > >>>>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any > >>>>> issues then i do not mind that > >>>>> > >>>>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta > >>>>> > >>>>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such > > learned > >>>>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and > > try > >>> to > >>>>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. > >>>>> > >>>>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am > > ready > >>> to > >>>>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr > > to > >>> post > >>>>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN > >>>>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all > > for > >>>>> sercing people for so long. > >>>>> > >>>>> thank u for making me post it feels good > >>>>> > >>>>> regards > >>>>> > >>>>> Rishav > >>>>> > >>>>> graha_nakshatra > >>>>> <graha_nakshatra> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> , "crystal pages" > >>>>> jyotish_vani@ wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Compassion Crusader, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! > >>>>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, > > I > >>>>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is > >>> really > >>>>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. > >>>>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean > >>>>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to > > illustrate > >>>>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is > >>>>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum > > more > >>>>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you > > did > >>>>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i > >>>>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like > > you > >>>>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are > > all > >>>>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full > >>>>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So, will you share more? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> RR > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> , "compassion_crusader" > >>>>>> astro_guide@ wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt > >>>>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of > >>>>>> ayanamsha,bt > >>>>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my > > other > >>>>>> fellow > >>>>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a > >>>>>> different > >>>>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT > >>> TAKES > >>>>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a > >>>>>> month fo > >>>>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try > >>> it!! > >>>>>> we > >>>>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes > > looking > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much > >>>>>> earlier > >>>>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within > >>>>>> weeks > >>>>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not > >>>>>> say hes > >>>>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once.. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no > >>>>>>> intentions of doing so.. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> crusader > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> , "Tarun Chopra" > >>>>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan > >>>>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by > >>>>>> Indian > >>>>>>> govt > >>>>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Mr. Chopra, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a > > constant > >>>>>>> rate > >>>>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> RR > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --- In > >>>>>>> <% > >>>>>> 40>, > >>>>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra" > >>>>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other > >>>>>> ayanamsha > >>>>>>>>> are wrong > >>>>>>>>>> totaly. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but > >>>>>> there is > >>>>>>>>> one thing > >>>>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year > >>>>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > >>>>>>>>> event precise > >>>>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see > >>>>>> if > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> dasha is > >>>>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that > >>>>>> date. > >>>>>>>>> this is > >>>>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you > >>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>> using but > >>>>>>>>>> do consider this one also > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> regards > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra > >>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034 > >>>>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > >>>>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > >>>>>>>>>>> Description: > >>>>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and > >>>>>> had > >>>>>>>>> mastered > >>>>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa > >>>>>> apart > >>>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the > >>>>>>> present > >>>>>>>>> work, > >>>>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, > >>>>>> Kuja > >>>>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru > >>>>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > >>>>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > >>>>>>>>> different. Just > >>>>>>>>>>> radically better. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 dear praffula can you tell me the price of my ayanamsha which i am selling i forgot the price of that Tarun Chopra On 7/10/06, Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > > Dear Rishav > > Yes,I agree that mutual discussions should not be carried us to make > personal statements against anyone. > > Sometimes, repeat hard selling frustrates..and it frustrates more, if it > is compounded by the facts that, it is expected to be followed without > validation notes (in recent mail, Tarun ji again refused to justify..but > wants to hard sell it) and followed closely (coincidently!!!) by fan mails. > But best way forward could be to ignore such mails either way. > > It is good that, no one in publishing their private conversations with > Tarun ji (good to maintain that privacy). > > I can assure you that, I have no personal ill feelings with any individual > (including Tarun Ji), theory (incuding TA) and specifically with you. > Afterall, there is no reason for any such feelings. and I am quite hopeful > that ( except disgust) Shri Kumar ji also does not hold any such with any > one. > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > > > > astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com <astro_guide%40rediffmail.com> > > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:26:03 -0000 > > <%40> > > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha > ?] > > > > > > Respected prafullaji.. > > > > Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get > > cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to > > once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i > > told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it > > was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is > > handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and hav > > a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik > > JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i > > myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events thru > > wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give his > > views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a > > junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing > > him..nor tarun ayanamsha > > > > i hope some sensible people understand my mails > > > > regards > > > > rishav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > Prafulla Gang <jyotish > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Rishav ji > >> > >> Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements > > warranted me to put few clarifications - > >> > >> I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand > > his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to > > vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the > > contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for > > reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets > > and past events. > >> > >> There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his > > TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the > > archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who > > relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener > > for that eventuality. > >> > >> Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum) > > asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the > > validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser > > luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not > > questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I > > told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and > > it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning). > > So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can > > certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought. > > But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) - > > You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions > > and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me.. > > I am still there and still waiting!!!!!! > >> > >> Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory. > > My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> astro_guide > >>> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000 > >>> <%40> > >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > > ayanamsha ?] > >>> > >>> > >>> Respected prafullaji, > >>> > >>> First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of > >>> mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave > > technical > >>> reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him > >>> answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did > > u > >>> care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in > > it?2ndly > >>> sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it > > by > >>> writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it > > and > >>> cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and > > even > >>> that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded > > as my > >>> whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to > > create a > >>> debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and > > frnz...we > >>> never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved > > those > >>> details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can > > unfold > >>> anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha. > >>> > >>> Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean > >>> abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can > > make > >>> all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way > >>> which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not > >>> REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if > > thers > >>> any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud > >>> repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were > > very > >>> regular. > >>> > >>> And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group > > a > >>> group of fan mails.. > >>> > >>> I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god > > bless > >>> u > >>> > >>> tak care > >>> > >>> regards > >>> > >>> Rishav > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> <%40>, > Prafulla Gang jyotish@ > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Rishav > >>>> > >>>> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum > >>> thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by > >>> Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical > >>> answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his > > own > >>> Forum, where I requested him to predict. > >>>> > >>>> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for > >>> jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also > >>> share the events alongwith TA chart. > >>>> > >>>> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling > > of > >>> Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail. > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> astro_guide@ > >>>>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000 > >>>>> <%40> > >>>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > >>> ayanamsha ?] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Namaste rohiniji, > >>>>> > >>>>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been > > greatly > >>>>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see > > rohiniji > >>> wot > >>>>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going > >>> around > >>>>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to > > mail > >>> them > >>>>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen > > thru > >>> his > >>>>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed > >>> that > >>>>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down > >>> conclusions > >>>>> and results thru any chart.. > >>>>> > >>>>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him > >>> initially > >>>>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the > >>> years r > >>>>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i > >>>>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries > > out > >>> wid > >>>>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in > >>> astrology,the > >>>>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we > > use > >>> for > >>>>> raksha bandhan and all are rong.. > >>>>> > >>>>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my > >>> whole > >>>>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri > > i > >>> see > >>>>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my > >>> fellow > >>>>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all > >>> made > >>>>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he > >>> came > >>>>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS > >>> HAPPENED > >>>>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL > > AND > >>> YES > >>>>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES > > AND > >>>>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. > >>>>> > >>>>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a > >>> month > >>>>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own > >>> where he > >>>>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even > > charts > >>>>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man > > has > >>> to > >>>>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume > > it > >>> to > >>>>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science > > and > >>> be > >>>>> little more observant. > >>>>> > >>>>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any > >>>>> issues then i do not mind that > >>>>> > >>>>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta > >>>>> > >>>>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such > > learned > >>>>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and > > try > >>> to > >>>>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. > >>>>> > >>>>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am > > ready > >>> to > >>>>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr > > to > >>> post > >>>>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN > >>>>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all > > for > >>>>> sercing people for so long. > >>>>> > >>>>> thank u for making me post it feels good > >>>>> > >>>>> regards > >>>>> > >>>>> Rishav > >>>>> > >>>>> graha_nakshatra > >>>>> <graha_nakshatra> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> <%40>, > "crystal pages" > >>>>> jyotish_vani@ wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Compassion Crusader, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! > >>>>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, > > I > >>>>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is > >>> really > >>>>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. > >>>>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean > >>>>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to > > illustrate > >>>>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is > >>>>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum > > more > >>>>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you > > did > >>>>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i > >>>>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like > > you > >>>>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are > > all > >>>>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full > >>>>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So, will you share more? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> RR > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> <%40>, > "compassion_crusader" > >>>>>> astro_guide@ wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt > >>>>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of > >>>>>> ayanamsha,bt > >>>>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my > > other > >>>>>> fellow > >>>>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a > >>>>>> different > >>>>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT > >>> TAKES > >>>>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a > >>>>>> month fo > >>>>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try > >>> it!! > >>>>>> we > >>>>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes > > looking > >>>>>> for > >>>>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much > >>>>>> earlier > >>>>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within > >>>>>> weeks > >>>>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not > >>>>>> say hes > >>>>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once.. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no > >>>>>>> intentions of doing so.. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> crusader > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> <%40>, > "Tarun Chopra" > >>>>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan > >>>>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by > >>>>>> Indian > >>>>>>> govt > >>>>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Mr. Chopra, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a > > constant > >>>>>>> rate > >>>>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> RR > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> --- In > >>>>>>> <%40> > <% > >>>>>> 40>, > >>>>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra" > >>>>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other > >>>>>> ayanamsha > >>>>>>>>> are wrong > >>>>>>>>>> totaly. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but > >>>>>> there is > >>>>>>>>> one thing > >>>>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year > >>>>>>>>>> * > >>>>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > >>>>>>>>> event precise > >>>>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see > >>>>>> if > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> dasha is > >>>>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that > >>>>>> date. > >>>>>>>>> this is > >>>>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you > >>>>>> are > >>>>>>>>> using but > >>>>>>>>>> do consider this one also > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> regards > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra > >>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034 > >>>>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > >>>>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > >>>>>>>>>>> Description: > >>>>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and > >>>>>> had > >>>>>>>>> mastered > >>>>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa > >>>>>> apart > >>>>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the > >>>>>>> present > >>>>>>>>> work, > >>>>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, > >>>>>> Kuja > >>>>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru > >>>>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > >>>>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > >>>>>>>>> different. Just > >>>>>>>>>>> radically better. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Dear Tarun ji I can certainly explain you the definition of term "selling" for tangible, intangibe or even imaginary object; and we can extend the whole subject to its legal, mercantile, ethical or even marketing aspect of it (easier for me to do the entire workshop on this subject..than astrology, for my professional occupation). But, my fear of you, misunerstanding it again is holding me from further expressions. Let me rephrase the core issue. Are you soliciting astrologers to use your ayanamsa? and just introspect, how have you been doing it? OK......let me rephrase it again from another angle....Even if I supply (provide) any object/service free of cost, My laibility for its use is not restricted to the price recovered. regards / Prafulla Gang Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > occultwizard.tarun > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:47:50 +0530 > > Re: Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > ayanamsha ?] > > dear praffula can you tell me the price of my ayanamsha which i am > selling i > forgot the price of that > > Tarun Chopra > > On 7/10/06, Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: >> >> Dear Rishav >> >> Yes,I agree that mutual discussions should not be carried us to make >> personal statements against anyone. >> >> Sometimes, repeat hard selling frustrates..and it frustrates more, if it >> is compounded by the facts that, it is expected to be followed without >> validation notes (in recent mail, Tarun ji again refused to justify..but >> wants to hard sell it) and followed closely (coincidently!!!) by fan >> mails. >> But best way forward could be to ignore such mails either way. >> >> It is good that, no one in publishing their private conversations with >> Tarun ji (good to maintain that privacy). >> >> I can assure you that, I have no personal ill feelings with any >> individual >> (including Tarun Ji), theory (incuding TA) and specifically with you. >> Afterall, there is no reason for any such feelings. and I am quite >> hopeful >> that ( except disgust) Shri Kumar ji also does not hold any such with >> any >> one. >> >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. >> >>> >>> astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com <astro_guide%40rediffmail.com> >>> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:26:03 -0000 >>> To: >>> <%40> >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha >> ?] >>> >>> >>> Respected prafullaji.. >>> >>> Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get >>> cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to >>> once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i >>> told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it >>> was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is >>> handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and >>> hav >>> a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik >>> JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i >>> myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events >>> thru >>> wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give >>> his >>> views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a >>> junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing >>> him..nor tarun ayanamsha >>> >>> i hope some sensible people understand my mails >>> >>> regards >>> >>> rishav >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- In >>> <%40>, >> Prafulla Gang <jyotish >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Rishav ji >>>> >>>> Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements >>> warranted me to put few clarifications - >>>> >>>> I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand >>> his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to >>> vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the >>> contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for >>> reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets >>> and past events. >>>> >>>> There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his >>> TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the >>> archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who >>> relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen >>> listener >>> for that eventuality. >>>> >>>> Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum) >>> asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the >>> validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were >>> lesser >>> luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not >>> questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I >>> told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and >>> it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning). >>> So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can >>> certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought. >>> But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) - >>> You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions >>> and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not >>> me.. >>> I am still there and still waiting!!!!!! >>>> >>>> Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory. >>> My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> astro_guide >>>>> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000 >>>>> To: >>>>> <%40> >>>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC >>> ayanamsha ?] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Respected prafullaji, >>>>> >>>>> First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of >>>>> mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave >>> technical >>>>> reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him >>>>> answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did >>> u >>>>> care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in >>> it?2ndly >>>>> sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it >>> by >>>>> writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it >>> and >>>>> cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and >>> even >>>>> that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded >>> as my >>>>> whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to >>> create a >>>>> debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and >>> frnz...we >>>>> never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved >>> those >>>>> details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can >>> unfold >>>>> anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha. >>>>> >>>>> Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean >>>>> abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can >>> make >>>>> all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way >>>>> which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not >>>>> REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if >>> thers >>>>> any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud >>>>> repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were >>> very >>>>> regular. >>>>> >>>>> And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group >>> a >>>>> group of fan mails.. >>>>> >>>>> I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god >>> bless >>>>> u >>>>> >>>>> tak care >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> >>>>> Rishav >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- In >>>>> <%40>, >> Prafulla Gang jyotish@ >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Rishav >>>>>> >>>>>> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum >>>>> thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by >>>>> Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical >>>>> answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his >>> own >>>>> Forum, where I requested him to predict. >>>>>> >>>>>> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for >>>>> jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also >>>>> share the events alongwith TA chart. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling >>> of >>>>> Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>>>> >>>>>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> astro_guide@ >>>>>>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000 >>>>>>> To: >>>>>>> <%40> >>>>>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC >>>>> ayanamsha ?] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Namaste rohiniji, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been >>> greatly >>>>>>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see >>> rohiniji >>>>> wot >>>>>>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going >>>>> around >>>>>>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to >>> mail >>>>> them >>>>>>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen >>> thru >>>>> his >>>>>>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed >>>>> that >>>>>>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down >>>>> conclusions >>>>>>> and results thru any chart.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him >>>>> initially >>>>>>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the >>>>> years r >>>>>>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i >>>>>>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries >>> out >>>>> wid >>>>>>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in >>>>> astrology,the >>>>>>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we >>> use >>>>> for >>>>>>> raksha bandhan and all are rong.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my >>>>> whole >>>>>>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri >>> i >>>>> see >>>>>>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my >>>>> fellow >>>>>>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all >>>>> made >>>>>>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he >>>>> came >>>>>>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS >>>>> HAPPENED >>>>>>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL >>> AND >>>>> YES >>>>>>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES >>> AND >>>>>>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a >>>>> month >>>>>>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own >>>>> where he >>>>>>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even >>> charts >>>>>>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man >>> has >>>>> to >>>>>>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume >>> it >>>>> to >>>>>>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science >>> and >>>>> be >>>>>>> little more observant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any >>>>>>> issues then i do not mind that >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such >>> learned >>>>>>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and >>> try >>>>> to >>>>>>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am >>> ready >>>>> to >>>>>>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr >>> to >>>>> post >>>>>>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN >>>>>>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all >>> for >>>>>>> sercing people for so long. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thank u for making me post it feels good >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rishav >>>>>>> >>>>>>> graha_nakshatra >>>>>>> <graha_nakshatra> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- In >>>>>>> <%40>, >> "crystal pages" >>>>>>> jyotish_vani@ wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Compassion Crusader, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! >>>>>>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, >>> I >>>>>>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is >>>>> really >>>>>>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. >>>>>>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean >>>>>>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to >>> illustrate >>>>>>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is >>>>>>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum >>> more >>>>>>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you >>> did >>>>>>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i >>>>>>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like >>> you >>>>>>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are >>> all >>>>>>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full >>>>>>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, will you share more? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RR >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --- In >>>>>>>> <%40>, >> "compassion_crusader" >>>>>>>> astro_guide@ wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt >>>>>>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of >>>>>>>> ayanamsha,bt >>>>>>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my >>> other >>>>>>>> fellow >>>>>>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a >>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT >>>>> TAKES >>>>>>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a >>>>>>>> month fo >>>>>>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try >>>>> it!! >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes >>> looking >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much >>>>>>>> earlier >>>>>>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within >>>>>>>> weeks >>>>>>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not >>>>>>>> say hes >>>>>>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no >>>>>>>>> intentions of doing so.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> crusader >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- In >>>>>>>>> <%40>, >> "Tarun Chopra" >>>>>>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan >>>>>>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by >>>>>>>> Indian >>>>>>>>> govt >>>>>>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Chopra, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a >>> constant >>>>>>>>> rate >>>>>>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> RR >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- In >>>>>>>>> <%40> >> <% >>>>>>>> 40>, >>>>>>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra" >>>>>>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other >>>>>>>> ayanamsha >>>>>>>>>>> are wrong >>>>>>>>>>>> totaly. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but >>>>>>>> there is >>>>>>>>>>> one thing >>>>>>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year >>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a >>>>>>>>>>> event precise >>>>>>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> dasha is >>>>>>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that >>>>>>>> date. >>>>>>>>>>> this is >>>>>>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> using but >>>>>>>>>>>> do consider this one also >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi >>>>>>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Description: >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and >>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>> mastered >>>>>>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa >>>>>>>> apart >>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the >>>>>>>>> present >>>>>>>>>>> work, >>>>>>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, >>>>>>>> Kuja >>>>>>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, >>>>>>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically >>>>>>>>>>> different. Just >>>>>>>>>>>>> radically better. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Dear Shri Kumar ji No point requesting, when Tarun ji has expressed his inability to justify (for his time constraints). It is not taking us to any meaningful discussions. Avoid asking again and again.One day, perhaps Tarun ji will be kinder to share them all with us. regards / Prafulla Gang Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > gbp_kumar > Sun, 9 Jul 2006 21:48:27 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > ayanamsha ?] 10/7 > > Jihadi, > [this is arabic for crusader] > I am sure you will see anyone open to use his or anyone's ayanamsa or > techniques provided a detailed study is published with a good sample > size of min 2k charts else some loose claism like urs or the other one I > treat as fan mail. and we r not compitent in astrophysic,siddhanta, > samhita, ganitha, shastra or Siddhi so why claim too much credit for > something untested on a good sample > so why not try the same tests on the dozens fo ayanams a u willget it > right there too. > > > compassion_crusader <astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote: > Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, > > I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt > discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of > ayanamsha,bt > the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other > fellow > friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a different > picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES > PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a month fo > other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!!we > shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking for > som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much earlier > also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within weeks > or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not say > hes > rubbish..we shall try using it once.. > > i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no > intentions of doing so.. > > regards > > crusader > > , "Tarun Chopra" > <occultwizard.tarun wrote: > > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan > > i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by Indian > govt > > the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani wrote: > > > > > > Mr. Chopra, > > > > > > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant > rate > > > or does it vary over a period of time? > > > > > > RR > > > > > > --- In > <%40>, > > > "Tarun Chopra" > > > occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other ayanamsha > > > are wrong > > > > totaly. > > > > > > > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but there is > > > one thing > > > > acuracy you will find that if you use > > > > > > > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate is > > > > 50.2719seconds / year > > > > * > > > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > > > event precise > > > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see if > the > > > dasha is > > > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that > date. > > > this is > > > > what i am telling people right now > > > > > > > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you are > > > using but > > > > do consider this one also > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > Tarun Chopra > > > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ISBN: SP81950034 > > > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > > > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > > > > > Description: > > > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and had > > > mastered > > > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa apart > > > from > > > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the > present > > > work, > > > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, Kuja > > > Nadi, (Guru > > > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > > > Sarva Nadi and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > > > different. Just > > > > > radically better. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Dear Rishav, Sticks and stones and not words and insults can break me! I speak from personal experience. Being an astrologers and really going out in rest of the world, one would need that kind of integrity and strength and belief in oneself. It is sad that you experienced it at a bit young age, unless I am mistaken. As you grow, you will find that more so on internet and perhaps less in real life (but no guaranties there either!) that when you tune into people's sensitivities, they will bite back. One of the biggest sensitivities that people have is when their knowledge is challenged. You will find that many individuals will hold back the reasonings, at least in the astrological realm for two reasons. They do not know or cannot explain or they are not confident as to what they know or think they know. They will come up with all kinds of reasonings and excuses and even attacks. As they say: Offense is simply a veiled defense. Do not stop each time someone who does not like what you said, or how you said it. Answer sometimes, and at other times just move on or keep your eyes on what you think is the right direction and listen to the words that you think are helping and making you go forward. If a few times, your choice turns out to be wrong, rejoice in the fact that you have a lot of journey ahead of you! In any communication, and take any typical sample example -- there are lot more letters and words than punctuation marks! Punctuation marks that make you pause are important, but would you rather stop your learning at a comma, semicolon or even period? When the best sentence might lie just ahead or even as close as the next paragraph? RR , "compassion_crusader" <astro_guide wrote: > > > Respected prafullaji.. > > Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get > cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to > once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i > told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it > was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is > handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and hav > a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik > JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i > myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events thru > wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give his > views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a > junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing > him..nor tarun ayanamsha > > i hope some sensible people understand my mails > > regards > > rishav > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Rishav ji > > > > Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements > warranted me to put few clarifications - > > > > I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand > his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to > vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the > contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for > reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets > and past events. > > > > There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his > TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the > archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who > relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener > for that eventuality. > > > > Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum) > asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the > validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser > luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not > questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I > told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and > it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning). > So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can > certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought. > But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) - > You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions > and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me.. > I am still there and still waiting!!!!!! > > > > Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory. > My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > > > > > > > > > astro_guide@ > > > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000 > > > > > > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > ayanamsha ?] > > > > > > > > > Respected prafullaji, > > > > > > First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of > > > mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave > technical > > > reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him > > > answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did > u > > > care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in > it?2ndly > > > sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it > by > > > writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it > and > > > cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and > even > > > that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded > as my > > > whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to > create a > > > debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and > frnz...we > > > never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved > those > > > details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can > unfold > > > anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha. > > > > > > Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean > > > abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can > make > > > all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way > > > which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not > > > REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if > thers > > > any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud > > > repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were > very > > > regular. > > > > > > And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group > a > > > group of fan mails.. > > > > > > I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god > bless > > > u > > > > > > tak care > > > > > > regards > > > > > > Rishav > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang jyotish@ > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Dear Rishav > > >> > > >> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum > > > thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by > > > Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical > > > answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his > own > > > Forum, where I requested him to predict. > > >> > > >> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for > > > jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also > > > share the events alongwith TA chart. > > >> > > >> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling > of > > > Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail. > > >> > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > > >> > > >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch. > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > >>> astro_guide@ > > >>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000 > > >>> > > >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC > > > ayanamsha ?] > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Namaste rohiniji, > > >>> > > >>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been > greatly > > >>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see > rohiniji > > > wot > > >>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going > > > around > > >>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to > mail > > > them > > >>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen > thru > > > his > > >>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed > > > that > > >>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down > > > conclusions > > >>> and results thru any chart.. > > >>> > > >>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him > > > initially > > >>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the > > > years r > > >>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i > > >>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries > out > > > wid > > >>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in > > > astrology,the > > >>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we > use > > > for > > >>> raksha bandhan and all are rong.. > > >>> > > >>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my > > > whole > > >>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri > i > > > see > > >>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my > > > fellow > > >>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all > > > made > > >>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he > > > came > > >>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS > > > HAPPENED > > >>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL > AND > > > YES > > >>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES > AND > > >>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT. > > >>> > > >>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a > > > month > > >>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own > > > where he > > >>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even > charts > > >>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man > has > > > to > > >>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume > it > > > to > > >>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science > and > > > be > > >>> little more observant. > > >>> > > >>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any > > >>> issues then i do not mind that > > >>> > > >>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta > > >>> > > >>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such > learned > > >>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and > try > > > to > > >>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik. > > >>> > > >>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am > ready > > > to > > >>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr > to > > > post > > >>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN > > >>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all > for > > >>> sercing people for so long. > > >>> > > >>> thank u for making me post it feels good > > >>> > > >>> regards > > >>> > > >>> Rishav > > >>> > > >>> graha_nakshatra > > >>> <graha_nakshatra> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> , "crystal pages" > > >>> jyotish_vani@ wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Dear Compassion Crusader, > > >>>> > > >>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy! > > >>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, > I > > >>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is > > > really > > >>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha. > > >>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean > > >>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken. > > >>>> > > >>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to > illustrate > > >>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is > > >>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum > more > > >>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you > did > > >>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i > > >>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like > you > > >>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings. > > >>>> > > >>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are > all > > >>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full > > >>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen. > > >>>> > > >>>> So, will you share more? > > >>>> > > >>>> RR > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> , "compassion_crusader" > > >>>> astro_guide@ wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt > > >>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of > > >>>> ayanamsha,bt > > >>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my > other > > >>>> fellow > > >>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a > > >>>> different > > >>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT > > > TAKES > > >>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a > > >>>> month fo > > >>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try > > > it!! > > >>>> we > > >>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes > looking > > >>>> for > > >>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much > > >>>> earlier > > >>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within > > >>>> weeks > > >>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not > > >>>> say hes > > >>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no > > >>>>> intentions of doing so.. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> regards > > >>>>> > > >>>>> crusader > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> , "Tarun Chopra" > > >>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan > > >>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by > > >>>> Indian > > >>>>> govt > > >>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719 > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Tarun Chopra > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Mr. Chopra, > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a > constant > > >>>>> rate > > >>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> RR > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> --- In > > >>>>> <% > > >>>> 40>, > > >>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra" > > >>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other > > >>>> ayanamsha > > >>>>>>> are wrong > > >>>>>>>> totaly. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but > > >>>> there is > > >>>>>>> one thing > > >>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate > > >>>> is > > >>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year > > >>>>>>>> * > > >>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a > > >>>>>>> event precise > > >>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see > > >>>> if > > >>>>> the > > >>>>>>> dasha is > > >>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that > > >>>> date. > > >>>>>>> this is > > >>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you > > >>>> are > > >>>>>>> using but > > >>>>>>>> do consider this one also > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> regards > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra > > >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034 > > >>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi > > >>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50 > > >>>>>>>>> Description: > > >>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and > > >>>> had > > >>>>>>> mastered > > >>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa > > >>>> apart > > >>>>>>> from > > >>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the > > >>>>> present > > >>>>>>> work, > > >>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, > > >>>> Kuja > > >>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru > > >>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi, > > >>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > > >>>>>>> different. Just > > >>>>>>>>> radically better. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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