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Mr. Chopra,

 

Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant rate

or does it vary over a period of time?

 

RR

 

 

, "Tarun Chopra"

<occultwizard.tarun wrote:

>

> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other ayanamsha

are wrong

> totaly.

>

> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but there is

one thing

> acuracy you will find that if you use

>

> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate is

> 50.2719seconds / year

> *

> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

event precise

> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see if the

dasha is

> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that date.

this is

> what i am telling people right now

>

> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you are

using but

> do consider this one also

>

> regards

>

> Tarun Chopra

> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om wrote:

> >

> > ISBN: SP81950034

> > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> > Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> > Description:

> > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and had

mastered

> > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa apart

from

> > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the present

work,

> > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, Kuja

Nadi, (Guru

> > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

Sarva Nadi and

> >

> >

> >

> > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

different. Just

> > radically better.

> >

> >

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Dear Tarun Chopra ji,

 

Please read Usha Shashi's Hindu Astrological Calculations and some

more articles for gaining understanding on the basis of ayanamsha

annual rates.

 

Unless Govt of India has managed to remove the variations in velocity

of the polar wobble as accepted by astrophysicists all over the

place, annual rate of ayanamsha must vary though by a small amount

which is probably nothing in recent times compared to the drastic

resetting of the orientation point of aries zero, itself!

 

Good luck with your 'mission'!

 

RR

 

, "Tarun Chopra"

<occultwizard.tarun wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan

> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

Indian govt

> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

> On 7/9/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Chopra,

> >

> > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant

rate

> > or does it vary over a period of time?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > <%

40>,

> > "Tarun Chopra"

> > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

ayanamsha

> > are wrong

> > > totaly.

> > >

> > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but there

is

> > one thing

> > > acuracy you will find that if you use

> > >

> > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate is

> > > 50.2719seconds / year

> > > *

> > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

> > event precise

> > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see if

the

> > dasha is

> > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

date.

> > this is

> > > what i am telling people right now

> > >

> > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you are

> > using but

> > > do consider this one also

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ISBN: SP81950034

> > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> > > > Description:

> > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and had

> > mastered

> > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa apart

> > from

> > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

present

> > work,

> > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, Kuja

> > Nadi, (Guru

> > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

> > Sarva Nadi and

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

> > different. Just

> > > > radically better.

> > > >

> > > >

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Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

 

I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of ayanamsha,bt

the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other fellow

friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a different

picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES

PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a month fo

other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!!we

shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking for

som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much earlier

also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within weeks

or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not say hes

rubbish..we shall try using it once..

 

i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

intentions of doing so..

 

regards

 

crusader

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "Tarun Chopra"

<occultwizard.tarun wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ranjan

> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by Indian

govt

> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani wrote:

> >

> > Mr. Chopra,

> >

> > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant

rate

> > or does it vary over a period of time?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > --- In

<%40>,

> > "Tarun Chopra"

> > occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other ayanamsha

> > are wrong

> > > totaly.

> > >

> > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but there is

> > one thing

> > > acuracy you will find that if you use

> > >

> > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate is

> > > 50.2719seconds / year

> > > *

> > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

> > event precise

> > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see if

the

> > dasha is

> > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that date.

> > this is

> > > what i am telling people right now

> > >

> > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you are

> > using but

> > > do consider this one also

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > ISBN: SP81950034

> > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> > > > Description:

> > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and had

> > mastered

> > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa apart

> > from

> > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

present

> > work,

> > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, Kuja

> > Nadi, (Guru

> > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

> > Sarva Nadi and

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

> > different. Just

> > > > radically better.

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Compassion Crusader,

 

What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I

felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is really

being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean

that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

 

I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate

and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more

details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did

find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you

have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

 

You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all

experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

information sincerely, are willing to listen.

 

So, will you share more?

 

RR

 

 

, "compassion_crusader"

<astro_guide wrote:

>

>

> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

>

> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

ayanamsha,bt

> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other

fellow

> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

different

> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES

> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

month fo

> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!!

we

> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking

for

> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

earlier

> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within

weeks

> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not

say hes

> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

>

> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

> intentions of doing so..

>

> regards

>

> crusader

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , "Tarun Chopra"

> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ranjan

> > i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

Indian

> govt

> > the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

> >

> > Tarun Chopra

> >

> > On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr. Chopra,

> > >

> > > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant

> rate

> > > or does it vary over a period of time?

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > --- In

> <%

40>,

> > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

ayanamsha

> > > are wrong

> > > > totaly.

> > > >

> > > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

there is

> > > one thing

> > > > acuracy you will find that if you use

> > > >

> > > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate

is

> > > > 50.2719seconds / year

> > > > *

> > > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

> > > event precise

> > > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see

if

> the

> > > dasha is

> > > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

date.

> > > this is

> > > > what i am telling people right now

> > > >

> > > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you

are

> > > using but

> > > > do consider this one also

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ISBN: SP81950034

> > > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> > > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> > > > > Description:

> > > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and

had

> > > mastered

> > > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

apart

> > > from

> > > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

> present

> > > work,

> > > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi,

Kuja

> > > Nadi, (Guru

> > > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

> > > Sarva Nadi and

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

> > > different. Just

> > > > > radically better.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Namaste rohiniji,

 

well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly

influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji wot

i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going around

to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail them

and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru his

ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed that

astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down conclusions

and results thru any chart..

 

See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him initially

that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the years r

fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i

though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries out wid

rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in astrology,the

other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use for

raksha bandhan and all are rong..

 

Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my whole

career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri i see

a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my fellow

frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all made

him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he came

up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS HAPPENED

TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL AND YES

MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND

95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

 

As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a month

back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own where he

answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts

through it.I would request you all that go through what this man has to

say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it to

be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and be

little more observant.

 

If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any

issues then i do not mind that

 

15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

 

This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned

people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try to

get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

 

I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am ready to

participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to post

anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN

UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for

sercing people for so long.

 

thank u for making me post it feels good

 

regards

 

Rishav

 

graha_nakshatra

<graha_nakshatra>

 

 

 

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Compassion Crusader,

>

> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I

> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is really

> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean

> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

>

> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate

> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more

> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did

> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you

> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

>

> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all

> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

> information sincerely, are willing to listen.

>

> So, will you share more?

>

> RR

>

>

> , "compassion_crusader"

> astro_guide@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

> >

> > I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

> > discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

> ayanamsha,bt

> > the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other

> fellow

> > friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

> different

> > picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES

> > PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

> month fo

> > other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!!

> we

> > shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking

> for

> > som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

> earlier

> > also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within

> weeks

> > or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not

> say hes

> > rubbish..we shall try using it once..

> >

> > i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

> > intentions of doing so..

> >

> > regards

> >

> > crusader

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "Tarun Chopra"

> > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rohini Ranjan

> > > i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

> Indian

> > govt

> > > the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

> > >

> > > Tarun Chopra

> > >

> > > On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > >

> > > > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant

> > rate

> > > > or does it vary over a period of time?

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > --- In

> > <%

> 40>,

> > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

> ayanamsha

> > > > are wrong

> > > > > totaly.

> > > > >

> > > > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

> there is

> > > > one thing

> > > > > acuracy you will find that if you use

> > > > >

> > > > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate

> is

> > > > > 50.2719seconds / year

> > > > > *

> > > > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

> > > > event precise

> > > > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see

> if

> > the

> > > > dasha is

> > > > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

> date.

> > > > this is

> > > > > what i am telling people right now

> > > > >

> > > > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you

> are

> > > > using but

> > > > > do consider this one also

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ISBN: SP81950034

> > > > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> > > > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> > > > > > Description:

> > > > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and

> had

> > > > mastered

> > > > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

> apart

> > > > from

> > > > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

> > present

> > > > work,

> > > > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi,

> Kuja

> > > > Nadi, (Guru

> > > > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

> > > > Sarva Nadi and

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

> > > > different. Just

> > > > > > radically better.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Rishav,

 

Somehow I was expecting a more pointed message from you giving

birthdata, events and dashas you used and thus show everyone the

efficacy of this ayanamsha. Particularly since you seemed so

convinced. When a strong claim is made, one must corroborate that and

not the otherway round.

 

This obfuscates the picture and does not really help the cause that

you have taken upon yourself to crusade about :-)

 

Hopefully you will not take this as a challenge or insult, but I

think all of us will really appreciate a data-event-periods kind of

list, specially after such strong claims have been made that one need

only to look at the period or sub-lords etc and the truth will lie

revealed. I had posted a horoscope with couple of dates (30041 or

28708) back in may or june. Neither the proponent nor the believers

responded.

 

What is one to deduce then?

 

RR

 

, "compassion_crusader"

<astro_guide wrote:

>

>

> Namaste rohiniji,

>

> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly

> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji

wot

> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going

around

> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail

them

> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru

his

> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed

that

> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down

conclusions

> and results thru any chart..

>

> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him

initially

> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the

years r

> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i

> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries

out wid

> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in

astrology,the

> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use

for

> raksha bandhan and all are rong..

>

> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my

whole

> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri

i see

> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my

fellow

> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all

made

> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he

came

> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS

HAPPENED

> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL

AND YES

> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND

> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

>

> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a

month

> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own

where he

> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts

> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man

has to

> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it

to

> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and

be

> little more observant.

>

> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any

> issues then i do not mind that

>

> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

>

> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned

> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try

to

> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

>

> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am

ready to

> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to

post

> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN

> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for

> sercing people for so long.

>

> thank u for making me post it feels good

>

> regards

>

> Rishav

>

> graha_nakshatra

> <graha_nakshatra>

>

>

>

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Compassion Crusader,

> >

> > What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

> > I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I

> > felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is

really

> > being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

> > Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean

> > that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

> >

> > I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to

illustrate

> > and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

> > wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum

more

> > details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you

did

> > find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

> > sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like

you

> > have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

> >

> > You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all

> > experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

> > information sincerely, are willing to listen.

> >

> > So, will you share more?

> >

> > RR

> >

> >

> > , "compassion_crusader"

> > astro_guide@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

> > >

> > > I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

> > > discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

> > ayanamsha,bt

> > > the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my

other

> > fellow

> > > friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

> > different

> > > picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT

TAKES

> > > PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

> > month fo

> > > other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try

it!!

> > we

> > > shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes

looking

> > for

> > > som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

> > earlier

> > > also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within

> > weeks

> > > or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not

> > say hes

> > > rubbish..we shall try using it once..

> > >

> > > i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

> > > intentions of doing so..

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > crusader

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Tarun Chopra"

> > > <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rohini Ranjan

> > > > i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

> > Indian

> > > govt

> > > > the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

> > > >

> > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > >

> > > > On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mr. Chopra,

> > > > >

> > > > > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a

constant

> > > rate

> > > > > or does it vary over a period of time?

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > --- In

> > > <%

> > 40>,

> > > > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > > > occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

> > ayanamsha

> > > > > are wrong

> > > > > > totaly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

> > there is

> > > > > one thing

> > > > > > acuracy you will find that if you use

> > > > > >

> > > > > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession

rate

> > is

> > > > > > 50.2719seconds / year

> > > > > > *

> > > > > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will

get a

> > > > > event precise

> > > > > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also

see

> > if

> > > the

> > > > > dasha is

> > > > > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on

that

> > date.

> > > > > this is

> > > > > > what i am telling people right now

> > > > > >

> > > > > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which

you

> > are

> > > > > using but

> > > > > > do consider this one also

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ISBN: SP81950034

> > > > > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> > > > > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> > > > > > > Description:

> > > > > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology

and

> > had

> > > > > mastered

> > > > > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

> > apart

> > > > > from

> > > > > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in

the

> > > present

> > > > > work,

> > > > > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra

Nadi,

> > Kuja

> > > > > Nadi, (Guru

> > > > > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi

Nadi,

> > > > > Sarva Nadi and

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

> > > > > different. Just

> > > > > > > radically better.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Rishav

 

Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his own Forum, where I requested him to predict.

 

and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also share the events alongwith TA chart.

 

I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling of Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

 

 

>

> astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com

> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000

>

> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha ?]

>

>

> Namaste rohiniji,

>

> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly

> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji wot

> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going around

> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail them

> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru his

> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed that

> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down conclusions

> and results thru any chart..

>

> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him initially

> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the years r

> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i

> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries out wid

> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in astrology,the

> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use for

> raksha bandhan and all are rong..

>

> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my whole

> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri i see

> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my fellow

> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all made

> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he came

> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS HAPPENED

> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL AND YES

> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND

> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

>

> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a month

> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own where he

> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts

> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man has to

> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it to

> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and be

> little more observant.

>

> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any

> issues then i do not mind that

>

> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

>

> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned

> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try to

> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

>

> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am ready to

> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to post

> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN

> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for

> sercing people for so long.

>

> thank u for making me post it feels good

>

> regards

>

> Rishav

>

> graha_nakshatra

> <graha_nakshatra>

>

>

>

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani wrote:

>>

>> Dear Compassion Crusader,

>>

>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I

>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is really

>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean

>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

>>

>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate

>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more

>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did

>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you

>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

>>

>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all

>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

>> information sincerely, are willing to listen.

>>

>> So, will you share more?

>>

>> RR

>>

>>

>> , "compassion_crusader"

>> astro_guide@ wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

>>>

>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

>> ayanamsha,bt

>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other

>> fellow

>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

>> different

>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES

>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

>> month fo

>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!!

>> we

>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking

>> for

>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

>> earlier

>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within

>> weeks

>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not

>> say hes

>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

>>>

>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

>>> intentions of doing so..

>>>

>>> regards

>>>

>>> crusader

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> , "Tarun Chopra"

>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan

>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

>> Indian

>>> govt

>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

>>>>

>>>> Tarun Chopra

>>>>

>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> Mr. Chopra,

>>>>>

>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant

>>> rate

>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time?

>>>>>

>>>>> RR

>>>>>

>>>>> --- In

>>> <%

>> 40>,

>>>>> "Tarun Chopra"

>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

>> ayanamsha

>>>>> are wrong

>>>>>> totaly.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

>> there is

>>>>> one thing

>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use

>>>>>>

>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate

>> is

>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year

>>>>>> *

>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

>>>>> event precise

>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see

>> if

>>> the

>>>>> dasha is

>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

>> date.

>>>>> this is

>>>>>> what i am telling people right now

>>>>>>

>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you

>> are

>>>>> using but

>>>>>> do consider this one also

>>>>>>

>>>>>> regards

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034

>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50

>>>>>>> Description:

>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and

>> had

>>>>> mastered

>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

>> apart

>>>>> from

>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

>>> present

>>>>> work,

>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi,

>> Kuja

>>>>> Nadi, (Guru

>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

>>>>> Sarva Nadi and

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

>>>>> different. Just

>>>>>>> radically better.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

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Respected prafullaji,

 

First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of

mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave technical

reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him

answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did u

care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in it?2ndly

sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it by

writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it and

cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and even

that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded as my

whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to create a

debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and frnz...we

never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved those

details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can unfold

anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha.

 

Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean

abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can make

all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way

which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not

REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if thers

any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud

repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were very

regular.

 

And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group a

group of fan mails..

 

I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god bless

u

 

tak care

 

regards

 

Rishav

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Rishav

>

> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum

thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by

Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical

answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his own

Forum, where I requested him to predict.

>

> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for

jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also

share the events alongwith TA chart.

>

> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling of

Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

>

>

> >

> > astro_guide

> > Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000

> >

> > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

ayanamsha ?]

> >

> >

> > Namaste rohiniji,

> >

> > well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly

> > influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji

wot

> > i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going

around

> > to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail

them

> > and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru

his

> > ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed

that

> > astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down

conclusions

> > and results thru any chart..

> >

> > See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him

initially

> > that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the

years r

> > fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i

> > though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries out

wid

> > rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in

astrology,the

> > other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use

for

> > raksha bandhan and all are rong..

> >

> > Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my

whole

> > career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri i

see

> > a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my

fellow

> > frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all

made

> > him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he

came

> > up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS

HAPPENED

> > TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL AND

YES

> > MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND

> > 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

> >

> > As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a

month

> > back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own

where he

> > answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts

> > through it.I would request you all that go through what this man has

to

> > say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it

to

> > be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and

be

> > little more observant.

> >

> > If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any

> > issues then i do not mind that

> >

> > 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

> >

> > This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned

> > people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try

to

> > get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

> >

> > I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am ready

to

> > participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to

post

> > anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN

> > UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for

> > sercing people for so long.

> >

> > thank u for making me post it feels good

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Rishav

> >

> > graha_nakshatra

> > <graha_nakshatra>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> > jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Compassion Crusader,

> >>

> >> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

> >> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I

> >> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is

really

> >> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

> >> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean

> >> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

> >>

> >> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate

> >> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

> >> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more

> >> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did

> >> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

> >> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you

> >> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

> >>

> >> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all

> >> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

> >> information sincerely, are willing to listen.

> >>

> >> So, will you share more?

> >>

> >> RR

> >>

> >>

> >> , "compassion_crusader"

> >> astro_guide@ wrote:

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

> >>>

> >>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

> >>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

> >> ayanamsha,bt

> >>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other

> >> fellow

> >>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

> >> different

> >>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT

TAKES

> >>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

> >> month fo

> >>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try

it!!

> >> we

> >>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking

> >> for

> >>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

> >> earlier

> >>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within

> >> weeks

> >>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not

> >> say hes

> >>> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

> >>>

> >>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

> >>> intentions of doing so..

> >>>

> >>> regards

> >>>

> >>> crusader

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> , "Tarun Chopra"

> >>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan

> >>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

> >> Indian

> >>> govt

> >>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

> >>>>

> >>>> Tarun Chopra

> >>>>

> >>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Mr. Chopra,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant

> >>> rate

> >>>>> or does it vary over a period of time?

> >>>>>

> >>>>> RR

> >>>>>

> >>>>> --- In

> >>> <%

> >> 40>,

> >>>>> "Tarun Chopra"

> >>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

> >> ayanamsha

> >>>>> are wrong

> >>>>>> totaly.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

> >> there is

> >>>>> one thing

> >>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate

> >> is

> >>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year

> >>>>>> *

> >>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

> >>>>> event precise

> >>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see

> >> if

> >>> the

> >>>>> dasha is

> >>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

> >> date.

> >>>>> this is

> >>>>>> what i am telling people right now

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you

> >> are

> >>>>> using but

> >>>>>> do consider this one also

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> regards

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Tarun Chopra

> >>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034

> >>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> >>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> >>>>>>> Description:

> >>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and

> >> had

> >>>>> mastered

> >>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

> >> apart

> >>>>> from

> >>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

> >>> present

> >>>>> work,

> >>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi,

> >> Kuja

> >>>>> Nadi, (Guru

> >>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

> >>>>> Sarva Nadi and

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

> >>>>> different. Just

> >>>>>>> radically better.

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

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Dear Rishav ji

 

Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements warranted me to put few clarifications -

 

I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets and past events.

 

There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener for that eventuality.

 

Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum) asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning). So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought. But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) - You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me.. I am still there and still waiting!!!!!!

 

Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory. My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

 

 

>

> astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com

> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000

>

> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha ?]

>

>

> Respected prafullaji,

>

> First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of

> mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave technical

> reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him

> answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did u

> care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in it?2ndly

> sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it by

> writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it and

> cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and even

> that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded as my

> whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to create a

> debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and frnz...we

> never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved those

> details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can unfold

> anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha.

>

> Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean

> abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can make

> all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way

> which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not

> REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if thers

> any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud

> repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were very

> regular.

>

> And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group a

> group of fan mails..

>

> I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god bless

> u

>

> tak care

>

> regards

>

> Rishav

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish

> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Rishav

>>

>> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum

> thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by

> Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical

> answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his own

> Forum, where I requested him to predict.

>>

>> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for

> jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also

> share the events alongwith TA chart.

>>

>> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling of

> Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail.

>>

>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>

>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

>>

>>

>>>

>>> astro_guide

>>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000

>>>

>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> ayanamsha ?]

>>>

>>>

>>> Namaste rohiniji,

>>>

>>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been greatly

>>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see rohiniji

> wot

>>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going

> around

>>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to mail

> them

>>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen thru

> his

>>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed

> that

>>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down

> conclusions

>>> and results thru any chart..

>>>

>>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him

> initially

>>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the

> years r

>>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i

>>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries out

> wid

>>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in

> astrology,the

>>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we use

> for

>>> raksha bandhan and all are rong..

>>>

>>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my

> whole

>>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri i

> see

>>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my

> fellow

>>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all

> made

>>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he

> came

>>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS

> HAPPENED

>>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL AND

> YES

>>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES AND

>>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

>>>

>>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a

> month

>>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own

> where he

>>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even charts

>>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man has

> to

>>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume it

> to

>>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science and

> be

>>> little more observant.

>>>

>>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any

>>> issues then i do not mind that

>>>

>>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

>>>

>>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such learned

>>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and try

> to

>>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

>>>

>>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am ready

> to

>>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr to

> post

>>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN

>>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all for

>>> sercing people for so long.

>>>

>>> thank u for making me post it feels good

>>>

>>> regards

>>>

>>> Rishav

>>>

>>> graha_nakshatra

>>> <graha_nakshatra>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> , "crystal pages"

>>> jyotish_vani@ wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Dear Compassion Crusader,

>>>>

>>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

>>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here, I

>>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is

> really

>>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

>>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean

>>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

>>>>

>>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to illustrate

>>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

>>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum more

>>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you did

>>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

>>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like you

>>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

>>>>

>>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are all

>>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

>>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen.

>>>>

>>>> So, will you share more?

>>>>

>>>> RR

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> , "compassion_crusader"

>>>> astro_guide@ wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

>>>>>

>>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

>>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

>>>> ayanamsha,bt

>>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other

>>>> fellow

>>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

>>>> different

>>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT

> TAKES

>>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

>>>> month fo

>>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try

> it!!

>>>> we

>>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking

>>>> for

>>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

>>>> earlier

>>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within

>>>> weeks

>>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not

>>>> say hes

>>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

>>>>>

>>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

>>>>> intentions of doing so..

>>>>>

>>>>> regards

>>>>>

>>>>> crusader

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> , "Tarun Chopra"

>>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan

>>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

>>>> Indian

>>>>> govt

>>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Mr. Chopra,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant

>>>>> rate

>>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> RR

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --- In

>>>>> <%

>>>> 40>,

>>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra"

>>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

>>>> ayanamsha

>>>>>>> are wrong

>>>>>>>> totaly.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

>>>> there is

>>>>>>> one thing

>>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate

>>>> is

>>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year

>>>>>>>> *

>>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

>>>>>>> event precise

>>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see

>>>> if

>>>>> the

>>>>>>> dasha is

>>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

>>>> date.

>>>>>>> this is

>>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you

>>>> are

>>>>>>> using but

>>>>>>>> do consider this one also

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> regards

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034

>>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

>>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50

>>>>>>>>> Description:

>>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and

>>>> had

>>>>>>> mastered

>>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

>>>> apart

>>>>>>> from

>>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

>>>>> present

>>>>>>> work,

>>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi,

>>>> Kuja

>>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru

>>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

>>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

>>>>>>> different. Just

>>>>>>>>> radically better.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

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Respected prafullaji..

 

Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get

cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to

once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i

told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it

was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is

handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and hav

a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik

JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i

myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events thru

wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give his

views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a

junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing

him..nor tarun ayanamsha

 

i hope some sensible people understand my mails

 

regards

 

rishav

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Rishav ji

>

> Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements

warranted me to put few clarifications -

>

> I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand

his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to

vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the

contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for

reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets

and past events.

>

> There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his

TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the

archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who

relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener

for that eventuality.

>

> Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum)

asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the

validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser

luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not

questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I

told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and

it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning).

So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can

certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought.

But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) -

You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions

and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me..

I am still there and still waiting!!!!!!

>

> Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory.

My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

>

>

> >

> > astro_guide

> > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000

> >

> > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

ayanamsha ?]

> >

> >

> > Respected prafullaji,

> >

> > First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of

> > mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave

technical

> > reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him

> > answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did

u

> > care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in

it?2ndly

> > sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it

by

> > writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it

and

> > cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and

even

> > that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded

as my

> > whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to

create a

> > debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and

frnz...we

> > never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved

those

> > details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can

unfold

> > anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha.

> >

> > Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean

> > abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can

make

> > all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way

> > which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not

> > REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if

thers

> > any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud

> > repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were

very

> > regular.

> >

> > And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group

a

> > group of fan mails..

> >

> > I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god

bless

> > u

> >

> > tak care

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Rishav

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang jyotish@

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Rishav

> >>

> >> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum

> > thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by

> > Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical

> > answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his

own

> > Forum, where I requested him to predict.

> >>

> >> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for

> > jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also

> > share the events alongwith TA chart.

> >>

> >> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling

of

> > Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail.

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> astro_guide@

> >>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000

> >>>

> >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> > ayanamsha ?]

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Namaste rohiniji,

> >>>

> >>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been

greatly

> >>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see

rohiniji

> > wot

> >>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going

> > around

> >>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to

mail

> > them

> >>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen

thru

> > his

> >>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed

> > that

> >>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down

> > conclusions

> >>> and results thru any chart..

> >>>

> >>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him

> > initially

> >>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the

> > years r

> >>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i

> >>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries

out

> > wid

> >>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in

> > astrology,the

> >>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we

use

> > for

> >>> raksha bandhan and all are rong..

> >>>

> >>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my

> > whole

> >>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri

i

> > see

> >>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my

> > fellow

> >>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all

> > made

> >>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he

> > came

> >>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS

> > HAPPENED

> >>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL

AND

> > YES

> >>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES

AND

> >>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

> >>>

> >>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a

> > month

> >>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own

> > where he

> >>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even

charts

> >>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man

has

> > to

> >>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume

it

> > to

> >>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science

and

> > be

> >>> little more observant.

> >>>

> >>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any

> >>> issues then i do not mind that

> >>>

> >>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

> >>>

> >>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such

learned

> >>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and

try

> > to

> >>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

> >>>

> >>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am

ready

> > to

> >>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr

to

> > post

> >>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN

> >>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all

for

> >>> sercing people for so long.

> >>>

> >>> thank u for making me post it feels good

> >>>

> >>> regards

> >>>

> >>> Rishav

> >>>

> >>> graha_nakshatra

> >>> <graha_nakshatra>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> , "crystal pages"

> >>> jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Dear Compassion Crusader,

> >>>>

> >>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

> >>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here,

I

> >>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is

> > really

> >>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

> >>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean

> >>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

> >>>>

> >>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to

illustrate

> >>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

> >>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum

more

> >>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you

did

> >>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

> >>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like

you

> >>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

> >>>>

> >>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are

all

> >>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

> >>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen.

> >>>>

> >>>> So, will you share more?

> >>>>

> >>>> RR

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> , "compassion_crusader"

> >>>> astro_guide@ wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

> >>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

> >>>> ayanamsha,bt

> >>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my

other

> >>>> fellow

> >>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

> >>>> different

> >>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT

> > TAKES

> >>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

> >>>> month fo

> >>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try

> > it!!

> >>>> we

> >>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes

looking

> >>>> for

> >>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

> >>>> earlier

> >>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within

> >>>> weeks

> >>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not

> >>>> say hes

> >>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

> >>>>>

> >>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

> >>>>> intentions of doing so..

> >>>>>

> >>>>> regards

> >>>>>

> >>>>> crusader

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> , "Tarun Chopra"

> >>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan

> >>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

> >>>> Indian

> >>>>> govt

> >>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Tarun Chopra

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Mr. Chopra,

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a

constant

> >>>>> rate

> >>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> RR

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> --- In

> >>>>> <%

> >>>> 40>,

> >>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra"

> >>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

> >>>> ayanamsha

> >>>>>>> are wrong

> >>>>>>>> totaly.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

> >>>> there is

> >>>>>>> one thing

> >>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate

> >>>> is

> >>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year

> >>>>>>>> *

> >>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

> >>>>>>> event precise

> >>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see

> >>>> if

> >>>>> the

> >>>>>>> dasha is

> >>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

> >>>> date.

> >>>>>>> this is

> >>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you

> >>>> are

> >>>>>>> using but

> >>>>>>>> do consider this one also

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> regards

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

> >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034

> >>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> >>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> >>>>>>>>> Description:

> >>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and

> >>>> had

> >>>>>>> mastered

> >>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

> >>>> apart

> >>>>>>> from

> >>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

> >>>>> present

> >>>>>>> work,

> >>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi,

> >>>> Kuja

> >>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru

> >>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

> >>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

> >>>>>>> different. Just

> >>>>>>>>> radically better.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

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Respected prafullaji..

 

Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get

cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to

once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i

told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it

was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is

handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and hav

a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik

JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i

myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events thru

wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give his

views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a

junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing

him..nor tarun ayanamsha

 

i hope some sensible people understand my mails

 

regards

 

rishav

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Rishav ji

>

> Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements

warranted me to put few clarifications -

>

> I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand

his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to

vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the

contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for

reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets

and past events.

>

> There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his

TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the

archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who

relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener

for that eventuality.

>

> Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum)

asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the

validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser

luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not

questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I

told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and

it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning).

So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can

certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought.

But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) -

You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions

and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me..

I am still there and still waiting!!!!!!

>

> Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory.

My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

>

>

> >

> > astro_guide

> > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000

> >

> > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

ayanamsha ?]

> >

> >

> > Respected prafullaji,

> >

> > First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of

> > mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave

technical

> > reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him

> > answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did

u

> > care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in

it?2ndly

> > sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it

by

> > writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it

and

> > cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and

even

> > that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded

as my

> > whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to

create a

> > debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and

frnz...we

> > never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved

those

> > details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can

unfold

> > anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha.

> >

> > Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean

> > abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can

make

> > all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way

> > which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not

> > REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if

thers

> > any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud

> > repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were

very

> > regular.

> >

> > And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group

a

> > group of fan mails..

> >

> > I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god

bless

> > u

> >

> > tak care

> >

> > regards

> >

> > Rishav

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang jyotish@

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Rishav

> >>

> >> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum

> > thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by

> > Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical

> > answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his

own

> > Forum, where I requested him to predict.

> >>

> >> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for

> > jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also

> > share the events alongwith TA chart.

> >>

> >> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling

of

> > Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail.

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> astro_guide@

> >>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000

> >>>

> >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> > ayanamsha ?]

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Namaste rohiniji,

> >>>

> >>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been

greatly

> >>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see

rohiniji

> > wot

> >>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going

> > around

> >>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to

mail

> > them

> >>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen

thru

> > his

> >>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed

> > that

> >>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down

> > conclusions

> >>> and results thru any chart..

> >>>

> >>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him

> > initially

> >>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the

> > years r

> >>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i

> >>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries

out

> > wid

> >>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in

> > astrology,the

> >>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we

use

> > for

> >>> raksha bandhan and all are rong..

> >>>

> >>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my

> > whole

> >>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri

i

> > see

> >>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my

> > fellow

> >>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all

> > made

> >>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he

> > came

> >>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS

> > HAPPENED

> >>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL

AND

> > YES

> >>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES

AND

> >>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

> >>>

> >>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a

> > month

> >>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own

> > where he

> >>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even

charts

> >>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man

has

> > to

> >>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume

it

> > to

> >>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science

and

> > be

> >>> little more observant.

> >>>

> >>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any

> >>> issues then i do not mind that

> >>>

> >>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

> >>>

> >>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such

learned

> >>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and

try

> > to

> >>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

> >>>

> >>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am

ready

> > to

> >>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr

to

> > post

> >>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN

> >>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all

for

> >>> sercing people for so long.

> >>>

> >>> thank u for making me post it feels good

> >>>

> >>> regards

> >>>

> >>> Rishav

> >>>

> >>> graha_nakshatra

> >>> <graha_nakshatra>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> , "crystal pages"

> >>> jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Dear Compassion Crusader,

> >>>>

> >>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

> >>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here,

I

> >>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is

> > really

> >>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

> >>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean

> >>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

> >>>>

> >>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to

illustrate

> >>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

> >>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum

more

> >>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you

did

> >>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

> >>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like

you

> >>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

> >>>>

> >>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are

all

> >>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

> >>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen.

> >>>>

> >>>> So, will you share more?

> >>>>

> >>>> RR

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>> , "compassion_crusader"

> >>>> astro_guide@ wrote:

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

> >>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

> >>>> ayanamsha,bt

> >>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my

other

> >>>> fellow

> >>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

> >>>> different

> >>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT

> > TAKES

> >>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

> >>>> month fo

> >>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try

> > it!!

> >>>> we

> >>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes

looking

> >>>> for

> >>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

> >>>> earlier

> >>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within

> >>>> weeks

> >>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not

> >>>> say hes

> >>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

> >>>>>

> >>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

> >>>>> intentions of doing so..

> >>>>>

> >>>>> regards

> >>>>>

> >>>>> crusader

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> , "Tarun Chopra"

> >>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan

> >>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

> >>>> Indian

> >>>>> govt

> >>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Tarun Chopra

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Mr. Chopra,

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a

constant

> >>>>> rate

> >>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time?

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> RR

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> --- In

> >>>>> <%

> >>>> 40>,

> >>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra"

> >>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

> >>>> ayanamsha

> >>>>>>> are wrong

> >>>>>>>> totaly.

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

> >>>> there is

> >>>>>>> one thing

> >>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate

> >>>> is

> >>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year

> >>>>>>>> *

> >>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

> >>>>>>> event precise

> >>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see

> >>>> if

> >>>>> the

> >>>>>>> dasha is

> >>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

> >>>> date.

> >>>>>>> this is

> >>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you

> >>>> are

> >>>>>>> using but

> >>>>>>>> do consider this one also

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> regards

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

> >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034

> >>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> >>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> >>>>>>>>> Description:

> >>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and

> >>>> had

> >>>>>>> mastered

> >>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

> >>>> apart

> >>>>>>> from

> >>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

> >>>>> present

> >>>>>>> work,

> >>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi,

> >>>> Kuja

> >>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru

> >>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

> >>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

> >>>>>>> different. Just

> >>>>>>>>> radically better.

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>

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Dear Rishav

 

Yes,I agree that mutual discussions should not be carried us to make personal statements against anyone.

 

Sometimes, repeat hard selling frustrates..and it frustrates more, if it is compounded by the facts that, it is expected to be followed without validation notes (in recent mail, Tarun ji again refused to justify..but wants to hard sell it) and followed closely (coincidently!!!) by fan mails. But best way forward could be to ignore such mails either way.

 

It is good that, no one in publishing their private conversations with Tarun ji (good to maintain that privacy).

 

I can assure you that, I have no personal ill feelings with any individual (including Tarun Ji), theory (incuding TA) and specifically with you. Afterall, there is no reason for any such feelings. and I am quite hopeful that ( except disgust) Shri Kumar ji also does not hold any such with any one.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

 

 

>

> astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com

> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:26:03 -0000

>

> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha ?]

>

>

> Respected prafullaji..

>

> Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get

> cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to

> once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i

> told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it

> was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is

> handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and hav

> a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik

> JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i

> myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events thru

> wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give his

> views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a

> junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing

> him..nor tarun ayanamsha

>

> i hope some sensible people understand my mails

>

> regards

>

> rishav

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish

> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Rishav ji

>>

>> Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements

> warranted me to put few clarifications -

>>

>> I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand

> his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to

> vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the

> contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for

> reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets

> and past events.

>>

>> There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his

> TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the

> archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who

> relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener

> for that eventuality.

>>

>> Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum)

> asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the

> validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser

> luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not

> questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I

> told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and

> it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning).

> So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can

> certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought.

> But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) -

> You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions

> and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me..

> I am still there and still waiting!!!!!!

>>

>> Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory.

> My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention.

>>

>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>

>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

>>

>>

>>>

>>> astro_guide

>>> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000

>>>

>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> ayanamsha ?]

>>>

>>>

>>> Respected prafullaji,

>>>

>>> First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of

>>> mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave

> technical

>>> reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him

>>> answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did

> u

>>> care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in

> it?2ndly

>>> sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it

> by

>>> writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it

> and

>>> cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and

> even

>>> that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded

> as my

>>> whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to

> create a

>>> debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and

> frnz...we

>>> never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved

> those

>>> details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can

> unfold

>>> anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha.

>>>

>>> Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean

>>> abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can

> make

>>> all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way

>>> which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not

>>> REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if

> thers

>>> any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud

>>> repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were

> very

>>> regular.

>>>

>>> And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group

> a

>>> group of fan mails..

>>>

>>> I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god

> bless

>>> u

>>>

>>> tak care

>>>

>>> regards

>>>

>>> Rishav

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Dear Rishav

>>>>

>>>> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum

>>> thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by

>>> Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical

>>> answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his

> own

>>> Forum, where I requested him to predict.

>>>>

>>>> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for

>>> jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also

>>> share the events alongwith TA chart.

>>>>

>>>> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling

> of

>>> Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail.

>>>>

>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>

>>>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> astro_guide@

>>>>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000

>>>>>

>>>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

>>> ayanamsha ?]

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Namaste rohiniji,

>>>>>

>>>>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been

> greatly

>>>>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see

> rohiniji

>>> wot

>>>>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going

>>> around

>>>>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to

> mail

>>> them

>>>>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen

> thru

>>> his

>>>>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed

>>> that

>>>>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down

>>> conclusions

>>>>> and results thru any chart..

>>>>>

>>>>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him

>>> initially

>>>>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the

>>> years r

>>>>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i

>>>>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries

> out

>>> wid

>>>>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in

>>> astrology,the

>>>>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we

> use

>>> for

>>>>> raksha bandhan and all are rong..

>>>>>

>>>>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my

>>> whole

>>>>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri

> i

>>> see

>>>>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my

>>> fellow

>>>>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all

>>> made

>>>>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he

>>> came

>>>>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS

>>> HAPPENED

>>>>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL

> AND

>>> YES

>>>>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES

> AND

>>>>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

>>>>>

>>>>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a

>>> month

>>>>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own

>>> where he

>>>>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even

> charts

>>>>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man

> has

>>> to

>>>>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume

> it

>>> to

>>>>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science

> and

>>> be

>>>>> little more observant.

>>>>>

>>>>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any

>>>>> issues then i do not mind that

>>>>>

>>>>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

>>>>>

>>>>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such

> learned

>>>>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and

> try

>>> to

>>>>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

>>>>>

>>>>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am

> ready

>>> to

>>>>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr

> to

>>> post

>>>>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN

>>>>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all

> for

>>>>> sercing people for so long.

>>>>>

>>>>> thank u for making me post it feels good

>>>>>

>>>>> regards

>>>>>

>>>>> Rishav

>>>>>

>>>>> graha_nakshatra

>>>>> <graha_nakshatra>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> , "crystal pages"

>>>>> jyotish_vani@ wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Compassion Crusader,

>>>>>>

>>>>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

>>>>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here,

> I

>>>>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is

>>> really

>>>>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

>>>>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean

>>>>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to

> illustrate

>>>>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

>>>>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum

> more

>>>>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you

> did

>>>>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

>>>>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like

> you

>>>>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are

> all

>>>>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

>>>>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> So, will you share more?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> RR

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>> , "compassion_crusader"

>>>>>> astro_guide@ wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

>>>>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

>>>>>> ayanamsha,bt

>>>>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my

> other

>>>>>> fellow

>>>>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

>>>>>> different

>>>>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT

>>> TAKES

>>>>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

>>>>>> month fo

>>>>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try

>>> it!!

>>>>>> we

>>>>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes

> looking

>>>>>> for

>>>>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

>>>>>> earlier

>>>>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within

>>>>>> weeks

>>>>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not

>>>>>> say hes

>>>>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

>>>>>>> intentions of doing so..

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> regards

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> crusader

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> , "Tarun Chopra"

>>>>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan

>>>>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

>>>>>> Indian

>>>>>>> govt

>>>>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Mr. Chopra,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a

> constant

>>>>>>> rate

>>>>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time?

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> RR

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --- In

>>>>>>> <%

>>>>>> 40>,

>>>>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra"

>>>>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

>>>>>> ayanamsha

>>>>>>>>> are wrong

>>>>>>>>>> totaly.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

>>>>>> there is

>>>>>>>>> one thing

>>>>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate

>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year

>>>>>>>>>> *

>>>>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

>>>>>>>>> event precise

>>>>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see

>>>>>> if

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>> dasha is

>>>>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

>>>>>> date.

>>>>>>>>> this is

>>>>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you

>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>> using but

>>>>>>>>>> do consider this one also

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> regards

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

>>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034

>>>>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

>>>>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50

>>>>>>>>>>> Description:

>>>>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and

>>>>>> had

>>>>>>>>> mastered

>>>>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

>>>>>> apart

>>>>>>>>> from

>>>>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

>>>>>>> present

>>>>>>>>> work,

>>>>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi,

>>>>>> Kuja

>>>>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru

>>>>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

>>>>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

>>>>>>>>> different. Just

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>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

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Dear prafullaji,

 

Thx for understanding me and i gr8ly respect prashant ji too alongside u

...bt it was painful to b called JIHADI in a forum wher i was just having

a health discussion AND HOLLOW DEFENSE..I would rather hav appreciated

to b encouraged by seniors lik u all as i clearly mentioned i am too new

to give technical reasons..i mentioned my age also,21!Now sir as u

called it out of frustration maybe tarunji took such step put of the

same emotional turmoil,its just an assumption!

 

If i wud have been a hollow man i would have nevr replied to mails...i

cud hav easily waited till people forget the issue...hence i request you

all to take me as a younger brother of you all and guide me ..Astrology

is not my profession its jst a hobby i m persuing as i hav som freedon

of time..

 

If by any chance i offended ne individual of this group,i am sorry for

that

 

bt pls respect others identity and their emotions and do not command

them.

 

thank u

 

regards

 

RIshav

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Rishav

>

> Yes,I agree that mutual discussions should not be carried us to make

personal statements against anyone.

>

> Sometimes, repeat hard selling frustrates..and it frustrates more, if

it is compounded by the facts that, it is expected to be followed

without validation notes (in recent mail, Tarun ji again refused to

justify..but wants to hard sell it) and followed closely

(coincidently!!!) by fan mails. But best way forward could be to ignore

such mails either way.

>

> It is good that, no one in publishing their private conversations with

Tarun ji (good to maintain that privacy).

>

> I can assure you that, I have no personal ill feelings with any

individual (including Tarun Ji), theory (incuding TA) and specifically

with you. Afterall, there is no reason for any such feelings. and I am

quite hopeful that ( except disgust) Shri Kumar ji also does not hold

any such with any one.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

>

>

> >

> > astro_guide

> > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:26:03 -0000

> >

> > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

ayanamsha ?]

> >

> >

> > Respected prafullaji..

> >

> > Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get

> > cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u

to

> > once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even

i

> > told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling

it

> > was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is

> > handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and

hav

> > a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words

lik

> > JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i

> > myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events

thru

> > wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give

his

> > views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as

a

> > junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing

> > him..nor tarun ayanamsha

> >

> > i hope some sensible people understand my mails

> >

> > regards

> >

> > rishav

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang jyotish@

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Rishav ji

> >>

> >> Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements

> > warranted me to put few clarifications -

> >>

> >> I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to

understand

> > his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to

> > vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On

the

> > contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for

> > reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related

facets

> > and past events.

> >>

> >> There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with

his

> > TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit

the

> > archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone -

who

> > relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen

listener

> > for that eventuality.

> >>

> >> Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum)

> > asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the

> > validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were

lesser

> > luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not

> > questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as

astrologer..as I

> > told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong

chart..and

> > it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing

reasoning).

> > So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I

can

> > certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought.

> > But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum)

-

> > You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical

questions

> > and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not

me..

> > I am still there and still waiting!!!!!!

> >>

> >> Please do not read my statements as against any individual or

theory.

> > My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention.

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> astro_guide@

> >>> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000

> >>>

> >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> > ayanamsha ?]

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Respected prafullaji,

> >>>

> >>> First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of

> >>> mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave

> > technical

> >>> reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him

> >>> answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha

did

> > u

> >>> care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in

> > it?2ndly

> >>> sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing

it

> > by

> >>> writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it

> > and

> >>> cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and

> > even

> >>> that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded

> > as my

> >>> whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to

> > create a

> >>> debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and

> > frnz...we

> >>> never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved

> > those

> >>> details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can

> > unfold

> >>> anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha.

> >>>

> >>> Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only

mean

> >>> abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can

> > make

> >>> all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that

way

> >>> which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m

not

> >>> REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if

> > thers

> >>> any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i

wud

> >>> repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were

> > very

> >>> regular.

> >>>

> >>> And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this

group

> > a

> >>> group of fan mails..

> >>>

> >>> I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god

> > bless

> >>> u

> >>>

> >>> tak care

> >>>

> >>> regards

> >>>

> >>> Rishav

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> , Prafulla Gang jyotish@

> >>> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Dear Rishav

> >>>>

> >>>> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with

forum

> >>> thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum

by

> >>> Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering

technical

> >>> answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on

his

> > own

> >>> Forum, where I requested him to predict.

> >>>>

> >>>> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart

for

> >>> jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please

also

> >>> share the events alongwith TA chart.

> >>>>

> >>>> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling

> > of

> >>> Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail.

> >>>>

> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>>

> >>>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> astro_guide@

> >>>>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> >>> ayanamsha ?]

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Namaste rohiniji,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been

> > greatly

> >>>>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see

> > rohiniji

> >>> wot

> >>>>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him

going

> >>> around

> >>>>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to

> > mail

> >>> them

> >>>>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen

> > thru

> >>> his

> >>>>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed

> >>> that

> >>>>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down

> >>> conclusions

> >>>>> and results thru any chart..

> >>>>>

> >>>>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him

> >>> initially

> >>>>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the

> >>> years r

> >>>>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then

i

> >>>>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries

> > out

> >>> wid

> >>>>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in

> >>> astrology,the

> >>>>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we

> > use

> >>> for

> >>>>> raksha bandhan and all are rong..

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as

my

> >>> whole

> >>>>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through

lahiri

> > i

> >>> see

> >>>>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my

> >>> fellow

> >>>>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we

all

> >>> made

> >>>>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and

he

> >>> came

> >>>>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS

> >>> HAPPENED

> >>>>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL

> > AND

> >>> YES

> >>>>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES

> > AND

> >>>>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a

> >>> month

> >>>>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own

> >>> where he

> >>>>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even

> > charts

> >>>>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man

> > has

> >>> to

> >>>>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume

> > it

> >>> to

> >>>>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science

> > and

> >>> be

> >>>>> little more observant.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding

any

> >>>>> issues then i do not mind that

> >>>>>

> >>>>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

> >>>>>

> >>>>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such

> > learned

> >>>>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and

> > try

> >>> to

> >>>>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am

> > ready

> >>> to

> >>>>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr

> > to

> >>> post

> >>>>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like,

ROHINIji,ARJUN

> >>>>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all

> > for

> >>>>> sercing people for so long.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> thank u for making me post it feels good

> >>>>>

> >>>>> regards

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Rishav

> >>>>>

> >>>>> graha_nakshatra

> >>>>> <graha_nakshatra>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> , "crystal pages"

> >>>>> jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Dear Compassion Crusader,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

> >>>>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member

here,

> > I

> >>>>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is

> >>> really

> >>>>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

> >>>>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not

mean

> >>>>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to

> > illustrate

> >>>>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

> >>>>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum

> > more

> >>>>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you

> > did

> >>>>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

> >>>>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like

> > you

> >>>>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are

> > all

> >>>>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

> >>>>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> So, will you share more?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> RR

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> , "compassion_crusader"

> >>>>>> astro_guide@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

> >>>>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

> >>>>>> ayanamsha,bt

> >>>>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my

> > other

> >>>>>> fellow

> >>>>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

> >>>>>> different

> >>>>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT

> >>> TAKES

> >>>>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

> >>>>>> month fo

> >>>>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try

> >>> it!!

> >>>>>> we

> >>>>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes

> > looking

> >>>>>> for

> >>>>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

> >>>>>> earlier

> >>>>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is

within

> >>>>>> weeks

> >>>>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall

not

> >>>>>> say hes

> >>>>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had

no

> >>>>>>> intentions of doing so..

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> regards

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> crusader

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> , "Tarun Chopra"

> >>>>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan

> >>>>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

> >>>>>> Indian

> >>>>>>> govt

> >>>>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Mr. Chopra,

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a

> > constant

> >>>>>>> rate

> >>>>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time?

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> RR

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> --- In

> >>>>>>> <%

> >>>>>> 40>,

> >>>>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra"

> >>>>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

> >>>>>> ayanamsha

> >>>>>>>>> are wrong

> >>>>>>>>>> totaly.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

> >>>>>> there is

> >>>>>>>>> one thing

> >>>>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession

rate

> >>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year

> >>>>>>>>>> *

> >>>>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get

a

> >>>>>>>>> event precise

> >>>>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also

see

> >>>>>> if

> >>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>> dasha is

> >>>>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on

that

> >>>>>> date.

> >>>>>>>>> this is

> >>>>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which

you

> >>>>>> are

> >>>>>>>>> using but

> >>>>>>>>>> do consider this one also

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> regards

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034

> >>>>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> >>>>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> >>>>>>>>>>> Description:

> >>>>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and

> >>>>>> had

> >>>>>>>>> mastered

> >>>>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

> >>>>>> apart

> >>>>>>>>> from

> >>>>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

> >>>>>>> present

> >>>>>>>>> work,

> >>>>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi,

> >>>>>> Kuja

> >>>>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru

> >>>>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi

Nadi,

> >>>>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

> >>>>>>>>> different. Just

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> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

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dear praffula can you tell me the price of my ayanamsha which i am selling i

forgot the price of that

 

Tarun Chopra

 

On 7/10/06, Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> Dear Rishav

>

> Yes,I agree that mutual discussions should not be carried us to make

> personal statements against anyone.

>

> Sometimes, repeat hard selling frustrates..and it frustrates more, if it

> is compounded by the facts that, it is expected to be followed without

> validation notes (in recent mail, Tarun ji again refused to justify..but

> wants to hard sell it) and followed closely (coincidently!!!) by fan mails.

> But best way forward could be to ignore such mails either way.

>

> It is good that, no one in publishing their private conversations with

> Tarun ji (good to maintain that privacy).

>

> I can assure you that, I have no personal ill feelings with any individual

> (including Tarun Ji), theory (incuding TA) and specifically with you.

> Afterall, there is no reason for any such feelings. and I am quite hopeful

> that ( except disgust) Shri Kumar ji also does not hold any such with any

> one.

>

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

>

> >

> > astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com <astro_guide%40rediffmail.com>

> > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:26:03 -0000

> > <%40>

> > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha

> ?]

> >

> >

> > Respected prafullaji..

> >

> > Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get

> > cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to

> > once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i

> > told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it

> > was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is

> > handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and hav

> > a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik

> > JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i

> > myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events thru

> > wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give his

> > views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a

> > junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing

> > him..nor tarun ayanamsha

> >

> > i hope some sensible people understand my mails

> >

> > regards

> >

> > rishav

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > <%40>,

> Prafulla Gang <jyotish

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Rishav ji

> >>

> >> Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements

> > warranted me to put few clarifications -

> >>

> >> I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand

> > his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to

> > vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the

> > contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for

> > reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets

> > and past events.

> >>

> >> There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his

> > TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the

> > archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who

> > relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen listener

> > for that eventuality.

> >>

> >> Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum)

> > asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the

> > validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were lesser

> > luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not

> > questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I

> > told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and

> > it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning).

> > So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can

> > certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought.

> > But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) -

> > You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions

> > and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not me..

> > I am still there and still waiting!!!!!!

> >>

> >> Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory.

> > My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention.

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> astro_guide

> >>> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000

> >>> <%40>

> >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> > ayanamsha ?]

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Respected prafullaji,

> >>>

> >>> First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of

> >>> mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave

> > technical

> >>> reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him

> >>> answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did

> > u

> >>> care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in

> > it?2ndly

> >>> sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it

> > by

> >>> writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it

> > and

> >>> cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and

> > even

> >>> that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded

> > as my

> >>> whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to

> > create a

> >>> debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and

> > frnz...we

> >>> never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved

> > those

> >>> details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can

> > unfold

> >>> anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha.

> >>>

> >>> Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean

> >>> abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can

> > make

> >>> all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way

> >>> which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not

> >>> REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if

> > thers

> >>> any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud

> >>> repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were

> > very

> >>> regular.

> >>>

> >>> And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group

> > a

> >>> group of fan mails..

> >>>

> >>> I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god

> > bless

> >>> u

> >>>

> >>> tak care

> >>>

> >>> regards

> >>>

> >>> Rishav

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> <%40>,

> Prafulla Gang jyotish@

> >>> wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>> Dear Rishav

> >>>>

> >>>> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum

> >>> thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by

> >>> Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical

> >>> answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his

> > own

> >>> Forum, where I requested him to predict.

> >>>>

> >>>> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for

> >>> jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also

> >>> share the events alongwith TA chart.

> >>>>

> >>>> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling

> > of

> >>> Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail.

> >>>>

> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>>>

> >>>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> astro_guide@

> >>>>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000

> >>>>> <%40>

> >>>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> >>> ayanamsha ?]

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Namaste rohiniji,

> >>>>>

> >>>>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been

> > greatly

> >>>>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see

> > rohiniji

> >>> wot

> >>>>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going

> >>> around

> >>>>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to

> > mail

> >>> them

> >>>>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen

> > thru

> >>> his

> >>>>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed

> >>> that

> >>>>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down

> >>> conclusions

> >>>>> and results thru any chart..

> >>>>>

> >>>>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him

> >>> initially

> >>>>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the

> >>> years r

> >>>>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i

> >>>>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries

> > out

> >>> wid

> >>>>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in

> >>> astrology,the

> >>>>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we

> > use

> >>> for

> >>>>> raksha bandhan and all are rong..

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my

> >>> whole

> >>>>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri

> > i

> >>> see

> >>>>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my

> >>> fellow

> >>>>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all

> >>> made

> >>>>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he

> >>> came

> >>>>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS

> >>> HAPPENED

> >>>>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL

> > AND

> >>> YES

> >>>>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES

> > AND

> >>>>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a

> >>> month

> >>>>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own

> >>> where he

> >>>>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even

> > charts

> >>>>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man

> > has

> >>> to

> >>>>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume

> > it

> >>> to

> >>>>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science

> > and

> >>> be

> >>>>> little more observant.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any

> >>>>> issues then i do not mind that

> >>>>>

> >>>>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

> >>>>>

> >>>>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such

> > learned

> >>>>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and

> > try

> >>> to

> >>>>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am

> > ready

> >>> to

> >>>>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr

> > to

> >>> post

> >>>>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN

> >>>>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all

> > for

> >>>>> sercing people for so long.

> >>>>>

> >>>>> thank u for making me post it feels good

> >>>>>

> >>>>> regards

> >>>>>

> >>>>> Rishav

> >>>>>

> >>>>> graha_nakshatra

> >>>>> <graha_nakshatra>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>>>> <%40>,

> "crystal pages"

> >>>>> jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> Dear Compassion Crusader,

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

> >>>>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here,

> > I

> >>>>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is

> >>> really

> >>>>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

> >>>>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean

> >>>>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to

> > illustrate

> >>>>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

> >>>>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum

> > more

> >>>>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you

> > did

> >>>>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

> >>>>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like

> > you

> >>>>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are

> > all

> >>>>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

> >>>>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> So, will you share more?

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> RR

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>> <%40>,

> "compassion_crusader"

> >>>>>> astro_guide@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

> >>>>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

> >>>>>> ayanamsha,bt

> >>>>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my

> > other

> >>>>>> fellow

> >>>>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

> >>>>>> different

> >>>>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT

> >>> TAKES

> >>>>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

> >>>>>> month fo

> >>>>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try

> >>> it!!

> >>>>>> we

> >>>>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes

> > looking

> >>>>>> for

> >>>>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

> >>>>>> earlier

> >>>>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within

> >>>>>> weeks

> >>>>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not

> >>>>>> say hes

> >>>>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

> >>>>>>> intentions of doing so..

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> regards

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> crusader

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>

> >>>>>>> <%40>,

> "Tarun Chopra"

> >>>>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan

> >>>>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

> >>>>>> Indian

> >>>>>>> govt

> >>>>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

> >>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Mr. Chopra,

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a

> > constant

> >>>>>>> rate

> >>>>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time?

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> RR

> >>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>> --- In

> >>>>>>> <%40>

> <%

> >>>>>> 40>,

> >>>>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra"

> >>>>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

> >>>>>> ayanamsha

> >>>>>>>>> are wrong

> >>>>>>>>>> totaly.

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

> >>>>>> there is

> >>>>>>>>> one thing

> >>>>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate

> >>>>>> is

> >>>>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year

> >>>>>>>>>> *

> >>>>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

> >>>>>>>>> event precise

> >>>>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see

> >>>>>> if

> >>>>>>> the

> >>>>>>>>> dasha is

> >>>>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

> >>>>>> date.

> >>>>>>>>> this is

> >>>>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you

> >>>>>> are

> >>>>>>>>> using but

> >>>>>>>>>> do consider this one also

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> regards

> >>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

> >>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034

> >>>>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> >>>>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> >>>>>>>>>>> Description:

> >>>>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and

> >>>>>> had

> >>>>>>>>> mastered

> >>>>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

> >>>>>> apart

> >>>>>>>>> from

> >>>>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

> >>>>>>> present

> >>>>>>>>> work,

> >>>>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi,

> >>>>>> Kuja

> >>>>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru

> >>>>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

> >>>>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

> >>>>>>>>> different. Just

> >>>>>>>>>>> radically better.

> >>>>>>>>>>>

> >>>>>>>>>>>

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Dear Tarun ji

 

I can certainly explain you the definition of term "selling" for tangible, intangibe or even imaginary object; and we can extend the whole subject to its legal, mercantile, ethical or even marketing aspect of it (easier for me to do the entire workshop on this subject..than astrology, for my professional occupation). But, my fear of you, misunerstanding it again is holding me from further expressions.

 

Let me rephrase the core issue. Are you soliciting astrologers to use your ayanamsa? and just introspect, how have you been doing it? OK......let me rephrase it again from another angle....Even if I supply (provide) any object/service free of cost, My laibility for its use is not restricted to the price recovered.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

 

 

>

> occultwizard.tarun

> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:47:50 +0530

>

> Re: Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> ayanamsha ?]

>

> dear praffula can you tell me the price of my ayanamsha which i am

> selling i

> forgot the price of that

>

> Tarun Chopra

>

> On 7/10/06, Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Rishav

>>

>> Yes,I agree that mutual discussions should not be carried us to make

>> personal statements against anyone.

>>

>> Sometimes, repeat hard selling frustrates..and it frustrates more, if it

>> is compounded by the facts that, it is expected to be followed without

>> validation notes (in recent mail, Tarun ji again refused to justify..but

>> wants to hard sell it) and followed closely (coincidently!!!) by fan

>> mails.

>> But best way forward could be to ignore such mails either way.

>>

>> It is good that, no one in publishing their private conversations with

>> Tarun ji (good to maintain that privacy).

>>

>> I can assure you that, I have no personal ill feelings with any

>> individual

>> (including Tarun Ji), theory (incuding TA) and specifically with you.

>> Afterall, there is no reason for any such feelings. and I am quite

>> hopeful

>> that ( except disgust) Shri Kumar ji also does not hold any such with

>> any

>> one.

>>

>>

>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>

>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

>>

>>>

>>> astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com <astro_guide%40rediffmail.com>

>>> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 10:26:03 -0000

>>> To:

>>> <%40>

>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC ayanamsha

>> ?]

>>>

>>>

>>> Respected prafullaji..

>>>

>>> Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get

>>> cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u to

>>> once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and even i

>>> told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling it

>>> was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is

>>> handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd and

>>> hav

>>> a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words lik

>>> JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i

>>> myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events

>>> thru

>>> wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and give

>>> his

>>> views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me as a

>>> junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing

>>> him..nor tarun ayanamsha

>>>

>>> i hope some sensible people understand my mails

>>>

>>> regards

>>>

>>> rishav

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> --- In

>>> <%40>,

>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Dear Rishav ji

>>>>

>>>> Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements

>>> warranted me to put few clarifications -

>>>>

>>>> I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to understand

>>> his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to

>>> vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On the

>>> contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for

>>> reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related facets

>>> and past events.

>>>>

>>>> There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with his

>>> TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit the

>>> archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone - who

>>> relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen

>>> listener

>>> for that eventuality.

>>>>

>>>> Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum)

>>> asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the

>>> validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were

>>> lesser

>>> luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not

>>> questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as astrologer..as I

>>> told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong chart..and

>>> it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing reasoning).

>>> So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I can

>>> certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought.

>>> But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA forum) -

>>> You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical questions

>>> and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not

>>> me..

>>> I am still there and still waiting!!!!!!

>>>>

>>>> Please do not read my statements as against any individual or theory.

>>> My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention.

>>>>

>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>

>>>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> astro_guide

>>>>> Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000

>>>>> To:

>>>>> <%40>

>>>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

>>> ayanamsha ?]

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Respected prafullaji,

>>>>>

>>>>> First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative of

>>>>> mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave

>>> technical

>>>>> reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him

>>>>> answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his ayanamsha did

>>> u

>>>>> care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in

>>> it?2ndly

>>>>> sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m doing it

>>> by

>>>>> writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in it

>>> and

>>>>> cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small idea,and

>>> even

>>>>> that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting unfolded

>>> as my

>>>>> whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to

>>> create a

>>>>> debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and

>>> frnz...we

>>>>> never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved

>>> those

>>>>> details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can

>>> unfold

>>>>> anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha.

>>>>>

>>>>> Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only mean

>>>>> abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words can

>>> make

>>>>> all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that way

>>>>> which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m not

>>>>> REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that if

>>> thers

>>>>> any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again i wud

>>>>> repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u were

>>> very

>>>>> regular.

>>>>>

>>>>> And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this group

>>> a

>>>>> group of fan mails..

>>>>>

>>>>> I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may god

>>> bless

>>>>> u

>>>>>

>>>>> tak care

>>>>>

>>>>> regards

>>>>>

>>>>> Rishav

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> --- In

>>>>> <%40>,

>> Prafulla Gang jyotish@

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Dear Rishav

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with forum

>>>>> thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the forum by

>>>>> Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering technical

>>>>> answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on his

>>> own

>>>>> Forum, where I requested him to predict.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA chart for

>>>>> jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please also

>>>>> share the events alongwith TA chart.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I will be equally interested if you can point out the mishandling

>>> of

>>>>> Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> astro_guide@

>>>>>>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000

>>>>>>> To:

>>>>>>> <%40>

>>>>>>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

>>>>> ayanamsha ?]

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Namaste rohiniji,

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been

>>> greatly

>>>>>>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see

>>> rohiniji

>>>>> wot

>>>>>>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him going

>>>>> around

>>>>>>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to

>>> mail

>>>>> them

>>>>>>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen

>>> thru

>>>>> his

>>>>>>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was discussed

>>>>> that

>>>>>>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down

>>>>> conclusions

>>>>>>> and results thru any chart..

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him

>>>>> initially

>>>>>>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over the

>>>>> years r

>>>>>>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But then i

>>>>>>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi tries

>>> out

>>>>> wid

>>>>>>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in

>>>>> astrology,the

>>>>>>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which we

>>> use

>>>>> for

>>>>>>> raksha bandhan and all are rong..

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life as my

>>>>> whole

>>>>>>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through lahiri

>>> i

>>>>> see

>>>>>>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my

>>>>> fellow

>>>>>>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we all

>>>>> made

>>>>>>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates and he

>>>>> came

>>>>>>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS

>>>>> HAPPENED

>>>>>>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN HOSPITAL

>>> AND

>>>>> YES

>>>>>>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND ISSUES

>>> AND

>>>>>>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and even a

>>>>> month

>>>>>>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his own

>>>>> where he

>>>>>>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even

>>> charts

>>>>>>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this man

>>> has

>>>>> to

>>>>>>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might assume

>>> it

>>>>> to

>>>>>>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great science

>>> and

>>>>> be

>>>>>>> little more observant.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart regarding any

>>>>>>> issues then i do not mind that

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such

>>> learned

>>>>>>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity and

>>> try

>>>>> to

>>>>>>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am

>>> ready

>>>>> to

>>>>>>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1 yr

>>> to

>>>>> post

>>>>>>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like, ROHINIji,ARJUN

>>>>>>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u all

>>> for

>>>>>>> sercing people for so long.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> thank u for making me post it feels good

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> regards

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Rishav

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> graha_nakshatra

>>>>>>> <graha_nakshatra>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> --- In

>>>>>>> <%40>,

>> "crystal pages"

>>>>>>> jyotish_vani@ wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Dear Compassion Crusader,

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

>>>>>>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member here,

>>> I

>>>>>>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one is

>>>>> really

>>>>>>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his ayanamsha.

>>>>>>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not mean

>>>>>>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to

>>> illustrate

>>>>>>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

>>>>>>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the forum

>>> more

>>>>>>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like you

>>> did

>>>>>>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

>>>>>>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced like

>>> you

>>>>>>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We are

>>> all

>>>>>>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

>>>>>>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> So, will you share more?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> RR

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --- In

>>>>>>>> <%40>,

>> "compassion_crusader"

>>>>>>>> astro_guide@ wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

>>>>>>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

>>>>>>>> ayanamsha,bt

>>>>>>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my

>>> other

>>>>>>>> fellow

>>>>>>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

>>>>>>>> different

>>>>>>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT

>>>>> TAKES

>>>>>>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a

>>>>>>>> month fo

>>>>>>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try

>>>>> it!!

>>>>>>>> we

>>>>>>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes

>>> looking

>>>>>>>> for

>>>>>>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much

>>>>>>>> earlier

>>>>>>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within

>>>>>>>> weeks

>>>>>>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not

>>>>>>>> say hes

>>>>>>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

>>>>>>>>> intentions of doing so..

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> regards

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> crusader

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> --- In

>>>>>>>>> <%40>,

>> "Tarun Chopra"

>>>>>>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan

>>>>>>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by

>>>>>>>> Indian

>>>>>>>>> govt

>>>>>>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Chopra,

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a

>>> constant

>>>>>>>>> rate

>>>>>>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time?

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> RR

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> --- In

>>>>>>>>> <%40>

>> <%

>>>>>>>> 40>,

>>>>>>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra"

>>>>>>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

>>>>>>>> ayanamsha

>>>>>>>>>>> are wrong

>>>>>>>>>>>> totaly.

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

>>>>>>>> there is

>>>>>>>>>>> one thing

>>>>>>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate

>>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year

>>>>>>>>>>>> *

>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

>>>>>>>>>>> event precise

>>>>>>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see

>>>>>>>> if

>>>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>>>>>> dasha is

>>>>>>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

>>>>>>>> date.

>>>>>>>>>>> this is

>>>>>>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you

>>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>>>>>> using but

>>>>>>>>>>>> do consider this one also

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> regards

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Description:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and

>>>>>>>> had

>>>>>>>>>>> mastered

>>>>>>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

>>>>>>>> apart

>>>>>>>>>>> from

>>>>>>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

>>>>>>>>> present

>>>>>>>>>>> work,

>>>>>>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi,

>>>>>>>> Kuja

>>>>>>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

>>>>>>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

>>>>>>>>>>> different. Just

>>>>>>>>>>>>> radically better.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Dear Shri Kumar ji

 

No point requesting, when Tarun ji has expressed his inability to justify (for his time constraints). It is not taking us to any meaningful discussions.

 

Avoid asking again and again.One day, perhaps Tarun ji will be kinder to share them all with us.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

 

 

>

> gbp_kumar

> Sun, 9 Jul 2006 21:48:27 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> ayanamsha ?] 10/7

>

> Jihadi,

> [this is arabic for crusader]

> I am sure you will see anyone open to use his or anyone's ayanamsa or

> techniques provided a detailed study is published with a good sample

> size of min 2k charts else some loose claism like urs or the other one I

> treat as fan mail. and we r not compitent in astrophysic,siddhanta,

> samhita, ganitha, shastra or Siddhi so why claim too much credit for

> something untested on a good sample

> so why not try the same tests on the dozens fo ayanams a u willget it

> right there too.

>

>

> compassion_crusader <astro_guide (AT) rediffmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

>

> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

> ayanamsha,bt

> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my other

> fellow

> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a different

> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE EVENT TAKES

> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it for a month fo

> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can try it!!we

> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes looking for

> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe much earlier

> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is within weeks

> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we shall not say

> hes

> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

>

> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i had no

> intentions of doing so..

>

> regards

>

> crusader

>

> , "Tarun Chopra"

> <occultwizard.tarun wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ranjan

> > i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved by Indian

> govt

> > the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

> >

> > Tarun Chopra

> >

> > On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani wrote:

> > >

> > > Mr. Chopra,

> > >

> > > Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a constant

> rate

> > > or does it vary over a period of time?

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > --- In

> <%40>,

> > > "Tarun Chopra"

> > > occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other ayanamsha

> > > are wrong

> > > > totaly.

> > > >

> > > > a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but there is

> > > one thing

> > > > acuracy you will find that if you use

> > > >

> > > > *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession rate is

> > > > 50.2719seconds / year

> > > > *

> > > > <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will get a

> > > event precise

> > > > as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also see if

> the

> > > dasha is

> > > > going to change on this day he can expect some event on that

> date.

> > > this is

> > > > what i am telling people right now

> > > >

> > > > so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which you are

> > > using but

> > > > do consider this one also

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > Tarun Chopra

> > > > On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > ISBN: SP81950034

> > > > > Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> > > > > Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> > > > > Description:

> > > > > The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology and had

> > > mastered

> > > > > various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa apart

> > > from

> > > > > employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in the

> present

> > > work,

> > > > > several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra Nadi, Kuja

> > > Nadi, (Guru

> > > > > Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi Nadi,

> > > Sarva Nadi and

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

> > > different. Just

> > > > > radically better.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Dear Rishav,

 

Sticks and stones and not words and insults can break me!

 

I speak from personal experience. Being an astrologers and really

going out in rest of the world, one would need that kind of integrity

and strength and belief in oneself. It is sad that you experienced it

at a bit young age, unless I am mistaken.

 

As you grow, you will find that more so on internet and perhaps less

in real life (but no guaranties there either!) that when you tune

into people's sensitivities, they will bite back. One of the biggest

sensitivities that people have is when their knowledge is challenged.

You will find that many individuals will hold back the reasonings, at

least in the astrological realm for two reasons. They do not know or

cannot explain or they are not confident as to what they know or

think they know.

 

They will come up with all kinds of reasonings and excuses and even

attacks. As they say: Offense is simply a veiled defense.

 

Do not stop each time someone who does not like what you said, or how

you said it. Answer sometimes, and at other times just move on or

keep your eyes on what you think is the right direction and listen to

the words that you think are helping and making you go forward. If a

few times, your choice turns out to be wrong, rejoice in the fact

that you have a lot of journey ahead of you!

 

In any communication, and take any typical sample example -- there

are lot more letters and words than punctuation marks! Punctuation

marks that make you pause are important, but would you rather stop

your learning at a comma, semicolon or even period? When the best

sentence might lie just ahead or even as close as the next paragraph?

 

RR

 

 

 

, "compassion_crusader"

<astro_guide wrote:

>

>

> Respected prafullaji..

>

> Sir if u notice i myself said i hav my own doubts which mite not get

> cleared untill events in future tak place..so pleas i wud request u

to

> once again see my posts as my lagna even changes just lik u and

even i

> told tarunji that my whole life changes..and abt being mishandling

it

> was in no way directed to u..i hop U CAN SEE THE PRASHANT KUMARJI is

> handling my mails..now wot do u call this??can u people come fwd

and hav

> a word wiith him and who has given him the right to call me words

lik

> JIHADI in such a divine group which is to discuss astrology..Sir i

> myself even believe that many can com to comclusion abt past events

thru

> wrong chart and in my last mail i urged tarunji to come fwd and

give his

> views and once again members lik u who respect my mail and tak me

as a

> junior collague of urs try to understand in no way i m representing

> him..nor tarun ayanamsha

>

> i hope some sensible people understand my mails

>

> regards

>

> rishav

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rishav ji

> >

> > Though I did not want to post on this thread, but your statements

> warranted me to put few clarifications -

> >

> > I am still participant on his forum, and I am still open to

understand

> his TA, if he /someone can post (chart / events / reasonings ) to

> vindicate TA's claims. I posted in his forum, but never with TA. On

the

> contrary, I was active on a thread, in which Tarun ji withdrawn (for

> reasons best known to him) - without justifying my lagna related

facets

> and past events.

> >

> > There has hardly been any technical discussions on his forum with

his

> TA, and that bogged many participants on the forum (you may revisit

the

> archive there). I wish that, his forum becomes active and someone -

who

> relies on his TA for predictions do the needful. I will be keen

listener

> for that eventuality.

> >

> > Regarding mishandling, all what fellow astrologers (on this forum)

> asked was the predictive case studies. I hope, you will also ask the

> validation facts, if someone is hard selling it. Perhaps, we were

lesser

> luckier than many, who are happy with his readings (BTW, I am not

> questioning his ability to read charts or his skill as

astrologer..as I

> told you, it is easier to tally past events, even with wrong

chart..and

> it is lot easier, if events are tallied without furnishing

reasoning).

> So, no point in taking these in bad taste. If you have felt bad, I

can

> certainly apologize to you and Tarun ji, without any second thought.

> But, i am sure, if you have followed the threads there (on TA

forum) -

> You know it very well that who has reacted badly on technical

questions

> and withdrawn from the forum itself within few hours. Certainly Not

me..

> I am still there and still waiting!!!!!!

> >

> > Please do not read my statements as against any individual or

theory.

> My continued membership on his forum vindicates my intention.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > astro_guide@

> > > Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:38:17 -0000

> > >

> > > Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> ayanamsha ?]

> > >

> > >

> > > Respected prafullaji,

> > >

> > > First of all I shall let you know that i m not a representative

of

> > > mr.tarun chopra and hence the reasons behind why he never gave

> technical

> > > reasons r not unfolded to me bt yes prafullaji i did notice him

> > > answering to other 100s of mails on his group thru his

ayanamsha did

> u

> > > care to look how is he doing that if you are so interested in

> it?2ndly

> > > sir i have no idea how this fan mails are genrated nor i m

doing it

> by

> > > writing now,i just saw an issue and felt like participating in

it

> and

> > > cleared it in the beginning that i m just giving my small

idea,and

> even

> > > that i myself is shocked abt my incidents of life getting

unfolded

> as my

> > > whole lagna changes wid his ayanamsha.so i m in noway trying to

> create a

> > > debate all i did was tell my exprience..and abt my chart and

> frnz...we

> > > never knew that i will have to com here and post it that i saved

> those

> > > details..i think we can ask mr.tarunji if hes interested and can

> unfold

> > > anybodys chart here wid past events thru his ayanamsha.

> > >

> > > Abt the mishandling issue well i believe mishandling dosnt only

mean

> > > abusing somebdy bt d way of writing too,sometimes as we words

can

> make

> > > all the difference,Maybe I as a soft spokn person found it that

way

> > > which you might not have noticed ji.And once again i repeat i m

not

> > > REPRESENTING tarunji in anyway,i myself would request him that

if

> thers

> > > any demand for technical answers he should answr them.bt again

i wud

> > > repeat u have seen him answering to many in his group wher u

were

> very

> > > regular.

> > >

> > > And i would even suggest respectable members not to make this

group

> a

> > > group of fan mails..

> > >

> > > I hope i cleared my stand in this whole issue prafullaji..may

god

> bless

> > > u

> > >

> > > tak care

> > >

> > > regards

> > >

> > > Rishav

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , Prafulla Gang jyotish@

> > > wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Dear Rishav

> > >>

> > >> Please post your TA chart and list of events read (along with

forum

> > > thread ID - as you mentioned, that you were answered on the

forum by

> > > Shri Tarun ji). To my knowledge, Tarun ji skips answering

technical

> > > answers based on hos TA chart. You may refer this experience on

his

> own

> > > Forum, where I requested him to predict.

> > >>

> > >> and If you (being astrology student) have experimented TA

chart for

> > > jyotish reading (of your chart or friend's chart) - then please

also

> > > share the events alongwith TA chart.

> > >>

> > >> I will be equally interested if you can point out the

mishandling

> of

> > > Tarun ji's mail by any of us; which prompted fan mail.

> > >>

> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>

> > >> Let not the sands of time get in your lunch.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> astro_guide@

> > >>> Sun, 09 Jul 2006 19:18:57 -0000

> > >>>

> > >>> Re: tarun chopra ayanamsha/others ayanamsha[TC

> > > ayanamsha ?]

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Namaste rohiniji,

> > >>>

> > >>> well i have been reading your posts since ages and has been

> greatly

> > >>> influenced,atleast for a person who is of just 21.well see

> rohiniji

> > > wot

> > >>> i mostly liked abt this man is his patience i have seen him

going

> > > around

> > >>> to people given them free predictions taking all the effort to

> mail

> > > them

> > >>> and then i have read his archives too how correct he has beeen

> thru

> > > his

> > >>> ayanamsha.well now we mite come to the topic which was

discussed

> > > that

> > >>> astrologers to have intuitive eye and hence mite bring down

> > > conclusions

> > >>> and results thru any chart..

> > >>>

> > >>> See like a normal learner of astrology i too argued wid him

> > > initially

> > >>> that all of the people who hav been preaching astrology over

the

> > > years r

> > >>> fool???the predictions which have come true r all fake??But

then i

> > >>> though ther times when somethings can b tried lik tatvamsi

tries

> out

> > > wid

> > >>> rahu eccentric theory..der r alwayz debate over issues in

> > > astrology,the

> > >>> other i recd a mail on ramayanas aauthencity and dates which

we

> use

> > > for

> > >>> raksha bandhan and all are rong..

> > >>>

> > >>> Abt my experiences frankly speaking i gotta shock of my life

as my

> > > whole

> > >>> career and success changed through his ayanamsha,as through

lahiri

> i

> > > see

> > >>> a nice rise of my career in life.But yes what amazed me and my

> > > fellow

> > >>> frnds of my city is EVENTS TAKING PLACE ON THE EXACT DATES we

all

> > > made

> > >>> him do few charts and asked him queries of particular dates

and he

> > > came

> > >>> up wid exact answer,example --MY FRND ASKED WHAT DO U SEE HAS

> > > HAPPENED

> > >>> TO ME ON 24TH JUNE 1998,HE CORRECTLY ANSWERED U WERE IN

HOSPITAL

> AND

> > > YES

> > >>> MY FRND WAS,AND THIS WAY WE MADE HIM ANSWER ON DATES AND

ISSUES

> AND

> > >>> 95%TIMES HE WAS CORRECT.

> > >>>

> > >>> As I was browsing through the messages here currently and

even a

> > > month

> > >>> back i saw his posts mishandled,he even runs a group of his

own

> > > where he

> > >>> answers to people very patiently abt tarun ayanamsha and even

> charts

> > >>> through it.I would request you all that go through what this

man

> has

> > > to

> > >>> say I have no personal connections with him as some might

assume

> it

> > > to

> > >>> be.Its just out of the lust to learn more on this great

science

> and

> > > be

> > >>> little more observant.

> > >>>

> > >>> If any respected member wants to go through my chart

regarding any

> > >>> issues then i do not mind that

> > >>>

> > >>> 15-02-1985 12:17 pm calcutta

> > >>>

> > >>> This is a divine group and i see no place around where such

> learned

> > >>> people flock together so y shouldnt we use this opportunity

and

> try

> > > to

> > >>> get the result out of his ayanamsha,who knows it might clik.

> > >>>

> > >>> I hope i have been able to clear the doubts and if needed i am

> ready

> > > to

> > >>> participate in the group as i see myself too small for last 1

yr

> to

> > > post

> > >>> anything in between such knowledgeable people like,

ROHINIji,ARJUN

> > >>> UNCLE,ASHUTOSH UNCLE,PRASHANT KUMARJI,AND OTHERS..A Bow to u

all

> for

> > >>> sercing people for so long.

> > >>>

> > >>> thank u for making me post it feels good

> > >>>

> > >>> regards

> > >>>

> > >>> Rishav

> > >>>

> > >>> graha_nakshatra

> > >>> <graha_nakshatra>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> , "crystal pages"

> > >>> jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Dear Compassion Crusader,

> > >>>>

> > >>>> What a beautiful handle! Very catchy!

> > >>>> I like your sincerity too. Though I am not a senior member

here,

> I

> > >>>> felt I should assuage your fears and underscore that no one

is

> > > really

> > >>>> being or trying to be rude towards Mr. Chopra or his

ayanamsha.

> > >>>> Particularly since he has recently indicated that he did not

mean

> > >>>> that everyone else using other ayanamshas is sadly mistaken.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> I understand that Mr. Chopra is working on a write-up to

> illustrate

> > >>>> and demonstrate the effectiveness of his ayanamsha. This is

> > >>>> wonderful. In the meantime, why don't you share with the

forum

> more

> > >>>> details of your chart and what convinced you. It seems like

you

> did

> > >>>> find some very strong evidence in favour of T.C. ayanamsha. i

> > >>>> sincerely request that you and others who have experienced

like

> you

> > >>>> have the benefits of the ayanamsha share findings.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> You will find that people will listen more attentively. We

are

> all

> > >>>> experimenters at heart (well most, anyway) and if given full

> > >>>> information sincerely, are willing to listen.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> So, will you share more?

> > >>>>

> > >>>> RR

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

, "compassion_crusader"

> > >>>> astro_guide@ wrote:

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> Respected preshant kumarji and other sernior members,

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> I am too small to b a part of such an intense and importnt

> > >>>>> discussion,nor do i possess gr8 knowledge of calculation of

> > >>>> ayanamsha,bt

> > >>>>> the reason i m here is i tried using tarun ayanamsha wid my

> other

> > >>>> fellow

> > >>>>> friends ..though my lagna changes and my whole charts show a

> > >>>> different

> > >>>>> picture for the life ahead bt wot we noticed is that THE

EVENT

> > > TAKES

> > >>>>> PLACE WHEN SUB PRATYANTAR CHANGES and we all followed it

for a

> > >>>> month fo

> > >>>>> other people and it did come true,wot i mite say is we can

try

> > > it!!

> > >>>> we

> > >>>>> shudnt be so rude to a gentleman nor shud we say that hes

> looking

> > >>>> for

> > >>>>> som instant fame...hes been on the groups from 2002,mebbe

much

> > >>>> earlier

> > >>>>> also..so wher does instant word comes from?????instant is

within

> > >>>> weeks

> > >>>>> or months hes been practicing astrology for yrs..so we

shall not

> > >>>> say hes

> > >>>>> rubbish..we shall try using it once..

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> i am sorry if nehow my words offended ne individual as i

had no

> > >>>>> intentions of doing so..

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> regards

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> crusader

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>>

> > >>>>> , "Tarun Chopra"

> > >>>>> <occultwizard.tarun@> wrote:

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> Dear Rohini Ranjan

> > >>>>>> i use constant annual rate of precession which is approved

by

> > >>>> Indian

> > >>>>> govt

> > >>>>>> the same which lahiri use. 50.2719

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> Tarun Chopra

> > >>>>>>

> > >>>>>> On 7/9/06, crystal pages jyotish_vani@ wrote:

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Mr. Chopra,

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> Do you recommend using the annual rate of 50.x sec as a

> constant

> > >>>>> rate

> > >>>>>>> or does it vary over a period of time?

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> RR

> > >>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>> --- In

> > >>>>> <%

> > >>>> 40>,

> > >>>>>>> "Tarun Chopra"

> > >>>>>>> occultwizard.tarun@ wrote:

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> Dear members i have never said that lahiri or any other

> > >>>> ayanamsha

> > >>>>>>> are wrong

> > >>>>>>>> totaly.

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> a event can be seen from every ayanamsha you can see but

> > >>>> there is

> > >>>>>>> one thing

> > >>>>>>>> acuracy you will find that if you use

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> *Tarun Chopra's Ayanamsha ie. 01/01/1155 and precession

rate

> > >>>> is

> > >>>>>>>> 50.2719seconds / year

> > >>>>>>>> *

> > >>>>>>>> <http://basicstat.com/> <http://basicstat.com/>you will

get a

> > >>>>>>> event precise

> > >>>>>>>> as a lay man who does not know abc of astrology can also

see

> > >>>> if

> > >>>>> the

> > >>>>>>> dasha is

> > >>>>>>>> going to change on this day he can expect some event on

that

> > >>>> date.

> > >>>>>>> this is

> > >>>>>>>> what i am telling people right now

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> so be open and flexible dont throw away the things which

you

> > >>>> are

> > >>>>>>> using but

> > >>>>>>>> do consider this one also

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> regards

> > >>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>> Tarun Chopra

> > >>>>>>>> On 7/9/06, Tatvamasi om_tatsat_om@ wrote:

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>> ISBN: SP81950034

> > >>>>>>>>> Publisher: Sagar Publications Nrew Delhi

> > >>>>>>>>> Our Price: Rs. 235.50

> > >>>>>>>>> Description:

> > >>>>>>>>> The Authorobviously was a man of letters in astrology

and

> > >>>> had

> > >>>>>>> mastered

> > >>>>>>>>> various Nadi Granthas. He specialized in use of Nadiamsa

> > >>>> apart

> > >>>>>>> from

> > >>>>>>>>> employing Parasarian principles. He had consulted, in

the

> > >>>>> present

> > >>>>>>> work,

> > >>>>>>>>> several Nadi Granthas including Surya Nadi, Chandra

Nadi,

> > >>>> Kuja

> > >>>>>>> Nadi, (Guru

> > >>>>>>>>> Nadi, Sukra Nadi, Sard Nadi, Lagna Nadi, Lagnadhipathi

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> > >>>>>>> Sarva Nadi and

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>

> > >>>>>>>>>

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