Diamonds and MritSanjeevani of Shukracharya, Pandit...

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dear friends

 

since alok ji is taking my observations personally, let us conclude

with this declaration:

 

I firmly believe and preach that diamonds can be worn by all women

including those who want male children.

 

alokji believes women shall not wear diamonds at all as diamons

create menstrual problems and also women seeking male children shall

not wear diamonds.

 

it is better to agree to disagree.

 

about flawed gems and substitutes, i cant add much value, AS I NEVER

RECOMMENDED GEMS except genuine ruby which is almost extinct.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

 

vedic astrology, yobrevol wrote:

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Namaste Arjun Ji and Aalok ji,

>

> If my entry is unwarranted, I sincerely apologize. Since the

thread is on

> gems, I couldn't help but intervene.

>

> To say that most of the gem dealers sell Moassanite or Natual

Zirconia or

> Czs in lieu of diamonds is a unfair allegations. Also, there is no

distinction

> between a good or a bad GIA cert. However, certs also cannot be

absolute

> barometer since GIA grading will be different from IGI or EGL and

even GIA New

> York will have a slightly different grading than GIA Antwerp. I

hope I am making

> myself clear.

>

> Now, most of the world population who Does wear diamonds wear less

than 100%

> pure ( IF, D, 0 florescence) material simply because of price.

Does that

> mean everyone else who does wear the "relatively" inferior

quality "genuine"

> product have no effects? or simply placebo effects?

>

> Further, to the rest of the population who wear substitutes like

white topaz

> or CZs are just comforting their minds with a placebo? Does any 1

of them

> experience real positive results ? How much role does karma play?

>

> Please give some thoughts to these, and if there be, I will write

more with

> references.

>

> Namaste;

> Gaurav Jain

>

> In a message dated 7/6/2006 6:38:01 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,

> osho_shadow writes:

>

> Dear Arjun Ji,

>

> Calling a sacred scripture absurd, unrealistic is

> almost very rude. Secondly you needed a proof which i

> gave you.

>

> You are saying that crores of woman across the globe

> wear diamonds. It is interesting and i would like to

> know how many of them were of the right size ?. How

> many of them were tested by Labs like G.I.A and other

> proper labs ?. None.

>

> You will be shocked that most of the suppliers provide

> false certifiates for stones. Most of them sell

> Mazonite instead of diamonds ( It is a bad thing, but

> a fact). Only a few can give you good certificates

> from GIA. Even if one gives you certifiate you cannot

> say that diamond was the cause of male progeny.

> Diamonds with proper size effect you while Jewelry

> embedded diamonds are smaller and cannot be detected

> for clarity ( They need very high power lenses).

>

>

> If i add things above your count will come down to

> nothing. So dear Sir, do not blame Shastras for

> something.

>

> I gave you reasons for what i said. You do not want to

> accept them, it is fine. You have your views. No

> problems. But you cannot enslave my thinking or my

> views.

>

> I know you will never understand.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> A.J

>

>

> --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> > dear alok ji

> >

> > please remove any of such feelings like enemies as i

> > love all human

> > beings equally. all members in all groups are aware

> > that i dont know

> > sarcasm and write simple straight language.

> >

> > please do not delete the messages to which you

> > respond a mail, so

> > that the readers will know what was asked and what

> > is written. this

> > is the practice which all members follow.

> >

> > coming back to my mail, i asked you to corroborate

> > your four bold

> > statements viz. (pasted from my previous mail)

> >

> > 1. vedic astrology prohibits ladies from wearing a

> > diamond.

> > 2. diamond creates problems with mensturations for

> > ladies.

> > 3. ladies who want male child shall not wear a

> > diamond.

> > 4. however, a clear flawless diamond can be worn by

> > ladies.

> >

> > point four is known to all and hence we need not

> > shed more light on

> > it. but then it contradicts your first statement.

> > please clarify.

> > the garuda puran have not said in its lone sholka on

> > stones, that

> > they are meant only for men and not women. no

> > gender bias was shown

> > for that matter in any classic.

> >

> > you have still not answered how you came to a

> > conclusion that vedic

> > astrology prohibits ladies from wearing a diamond

> > and also warned

> > the ladies who wear diamonds to have menstruation

> > problems. this ia

> > very bold and sweeping statmenet which is not true.

> > there are no

> > such rules in the vedic samhitas or vedic shastras.

> > crores of women

> > across the globe wear a diamond ring in their

> > engagement itself,

> > diamonds in their earrings or earlobes and also

> > diamonds in their

> > nosepins. i have seen crores of such women getting

> > male children.

> >

> > as regards some book mentioned by you which says

> > that a woman who

> > wish to have male child shall not wear a diamond is

> > absurd,

> > unrealistic, false, irrational and illogical and not

> > witnessed by

> > crores of women. hence please do not publicicse

> > such generalised

> > statements which are far from truth.

> >

> > if you wish to respect the subject and respect the

> > facts, i can

> > furnish you hundreds of charts of women wearing

> > diamonds having no

> > problems as such.

> >

> > lastly, in academic debates, facts overweigh

> > personalities. if any

> > one says something which is untrue, it will not be

> > accepted. please

> > do keep sharing your knowledge which is based on

> > facts and logic,

> > for "yukti yuktam vako grahyam baladapi sukadapi".

> >

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> >

> > vedic astrology, ALOK JAGAWAT

> >

> > <osho_shadow@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arjun Ji,

> > >

> > > I am sure I am not your enemy because this is the

> > > second time I am facing a sarcastic opposition

> > from

> > > your side. I hardly know you and so do you.

> > >

> > > Well I will answer and back up my statements.

> > >

> > > Chapter 2, Sloka 17 ( Rajnirghant)

> > >

> > > Vajram Na Kinchidapi Dharyativyameke,

> > > Putrarthinibhirbalabhirushanti Tajagya:

> > > Shringatkatriputdhanyakavat sthitam ya,

> > > chashronibham cha shubhadam Tanyarthininam"

> > >

> > > This statement clearly states that a lady who

> > wishes a

> > > male child should avoid diamonds. Now when I said

> > > flawless I meant something else. Flawless diamonds

> > can

> > > cast a CEO a two months salary and a bigger piece

> > can

> > > cost a fortune so I was not sure what it can give

> > you.

> > > That is why I remarked that in case of flawless

> > > diamonds case can be different.

> > >

> > > Dear Arjun ji I respect astrologers and instead of

> > > seeking and finding mistakes in others we should

> > share

> > > our knowledge with each other. I do not want to

> > pursue

> > > this matter further.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > A.J

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> >

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