Diamonds and MritSanjeevani of Shukracharya, Pandit Arjun Ji

[Guest guest]

Dear Arjun Ji,

 

I am sure I am not your enemy because this is the

second time I am facing a sarcastic opposition from

your side. I hardly know you and so do you.

 

Well I will answer and back up my statements.

 

Chapter 2, Sloka 17 ( Rajnirghant)

 

Vajram Na Kinchidapi Dharyativyameke,

Putrarthinibhirbalabhirushanti Tajagya:

Shringatkatriputdhanyakavat sthitam ya,

chashronibham cha shubhadam Tanyarthininam"

 

This statement clearly states that a lady who wishes a

male child should avoid diamonds. Now when I said

flawless I meant something else. Flawless diamonds can

cast a CEO a two months salary and a bigger piece can

cost a fortune so I was not sure what it can give you.

That is why I remarked that in case of flawless

diamonds case can be different.

 

Dear Arjun ji I respect astrologers and instead of

seeking and finding mistakes in others we should share

our knowledge with each other. I do not want to pursue

this matter further.

 

Regards

 

A.J

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

dear alok ji

 

please remove any of such feelings like enemies as i love all human

beings equally. all members in all groups are aware that i dont know

sarcasm and write simple straight language.

 

please do not delete the messages to which you respond a mail, so

that the readers will know what was asked and what is written. this

is the practice which all members follow.

 

coming back to my mail, i asked you to corroborate your four bold

statements viz. (pasted from my previous mail)

 

1. vedic astrology prohibits ladies from wearing a diamond.

2. diamond creates problems with mensturations for ladies.

3. ladies who want male child shall not wear a diamond.

4. however, a clear flawless diamond can be worn by ladies.

 

point four is known to all and hence we need not shed more light on

it. but then it contradicts your first statement. please clarify.

the garuda puran have not said in its lone sholka on stones, that

they are meant only for men and not women. no gender bias was shown

for that matter in any classic.

 

you have still not answered how you came to a conclusion that vedic

astrology prohibits ladies from wearing a diamond and also warned

the ladies who wear diamonds to have menstruation problems. this ia

very bold and sweeping statmenet which is not true. there are no

such rules in the vedic samhitas or vedic shastras. crores of women

across the globe wear a diamond ring in their engagement itself,

diamonds in their earrings or earlobes and also diamonds in their

nosepins. i have seen crores of such women getting male children.

 

as regards some book mentioned by you which says that a woman who

wish to have male child shall not wear a diamond is absurd,

unrealistic, false, irrational and illogical and not witnessed by

crores of women. hence please do not publicicse such generalised

statements which are far from truth.

 

if you wish to respect the subject and respect the facts, i can

furnish you hundreds of charts of women wearing diamonds having no

problems as such.

 

lastly, in academic debates, facts overweigh personalities. if any

one says something which is untrue, it will not be accepted. please

do keep sharing your knowledge which is based on facts and logic,

for "yukti yuktam vako grahyam baladapi sukadapi".

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

vedic astrology, ALOK JAGAWAT

<osho_shadow wrote:

>

> Dear Arjun Ji,

>

> I am sure I am not your enemy because this is the

> second time I am facing a sarcastic opposition from

> your side. I hardly know you and so do you.

>

> Well I will answer and back up my statements.

>

> Chapter 2, Sloka 17 ( Rajnirghant)

>

> Vajram Na Kinchidapi Dharyativyameke,

> Putrarthinibhirbalabhirushanti Tajagya:

> Shringatkatriputdhanyakavat sthitam ya,

> chashronibham cha shubhadam Tanyarthininam"

>

> This statement clearly states that a lady who wishes a

> male child should avoid diamonds. Now when I said

> flawless I meant something else. Flawless diamonds can

> cast a CEO a two months salary and a bigger piece can

> cost a fortune so I was not sure what it can give you.

> That is why I remarked that in case of flawless

> diamonds case can be different.

>

> Dear Arjun ji I respect astrologers and instead of

> seeking and finding mistakes in others we should share

> our knowledge with each other. I do not want to pursue

> this matter further.

>

> Regards

>

> A.J

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi All!

 

I think we should refrain from making this plateform

for learned people a ground for personal rivalry.Very

true to Arjunji,the verdict abt diamond is uncalled

for and very misleading.Like any other gem,the effect

are equally good depending on the quality of

diamond,shukra position and karakatva.

 

All doubts about menstrual problem and bad luck are

misleading and nowhere near truth.The effect of the

gems and mantras should be seeen in the light of its

effect on people in practicality and should in the

seen in the light of experience and experiment.

 

There may be many contradiction in our shastras even

about the basic laws of astrology.But these stark

reveletion about diamond is something out of blue for

me and should be avoided.

 

Regards

Ravi Shreevastava

--- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote:

 

> dear alok ji

>

> please remove any of such feelings like enemies as i

> love all human

> beings equally. all members in all groups are aware

> that i dont know

> sarcasm and write simple straight language.

>

> please do not delete the messages to which you

> respond a mail, so

> that the readers will know what was asked and what

> is written. this

> is the practice which all members follow.

>

> coming back to my mail, i asked you to corroborate

> your four bold

> statements viz. (pasted from my previous mail)

>

> 1. vedic astrology prohibits ladies from wearing a

> diamond.

> 2. diamond creates problems with mensturations for

> ladies.

> 3. ladies who want male child shall not wear a

> diamond.

> 4. however, a clear flawless diamond can be worn by

> ladies.

>

> point four is known to all and hence we need not

> shed more light on

> it. but then it contradicts your first statement.

> please clarify.

> the garuda puran have not said in its lone sholka on

> stones, that

> they are meant only for men and not women. no

> gender bias was shown

> for that matter in any classic.

>

> you have still not answered how you came to a

> conclusion that vedic

> astrology prohibits ladies from wearing a diamond

> and also warned

> the ladies who wear diamonds to have menstruation

> problems. this ia

> very bold and sweeping statmenet which is not true.

> there are no

> such rules in the vedic samhitas or vedic shastras.

> crores of women

> across the globe wear a diamond ring in their

> engagement itself,

> diamonds in their earrings or earlobes and also

> diamonds in their

> nosepins. i have seen crores of such women getting

> male children.

>

> as regards some book mentioned by you which says

> that a woman who

> wish to have male child shall not wear a diamond is

> absurd,

> unrealistic, false, irrational and illogical and not

> witnessed by

> crores of women. hence please do not publicicse

> such generalised

> statements which are far from truth.

>

> if you wish to respect the subject and respect the

> facts, i can

> furnish you hundreds of charts of women wearing

> diamonds having no

> problems as such.

>

> lastly, in academic debates, facts overweigh

> personalities. if any

> one says something which is untrue, it will not be

> accepted. please

> do keep sharing your knowledge which is based on

> facts and logic,

> for "yukti yuktam vako grahyam baladapi sukadapi".

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

> vedic astrology, ALOK JAGAWAT

>

> <osho_shadow wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arjun Ji,

> >

> > I am sure I am not your enemy because this is the

> > second time I am facing a sarcastic opposition

> from

> > your side. I hardly know you and so do you.

> >

> > Well I will answer and back up my statements.

> >

> > Chapter 2, Sloka 17 ( Rajnirghant)

> >

> > Vajram Na Kinchidapi Dharyativyameke,

> > Putrarthinibhirbalabhirushanti Tajagya:

> > Shringatkatriputdhanyakavat sthitam ya,

> > chashronibham cha shubhadam Tanyarthininam"

> >

> > This statement clearly states that a lady who

> wishes a

> > male child should avoid diamonds. Now when I said

> > flawless I meant something else. Flawless diamonds

> can

> > cast a CEO a two months salary and a bigger piece

> can

> > cost a fortune so I was not sure what it can give

> you.

> > That is why I remarked that in case of flawless

> > diamonds case can be different.

> >

> > Dear Arjun ji I respect astrologers and instead of

> > seeking and finding mistakes in others we should

> share

> > our knowledge with each other. I do not want to

> pursue

> > this matter further.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > A.J

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> protection around

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Dear Arjun Ji,

 

Calling a sacred scripture absurd, unrealistic is

almost very rude. Secondly you needed a proof which i

gave you.

 

You are saying that crores of woman across the globe

wear diamonds. It is interesting and i would like to

know how many of them were of the right size ?. How

many of them were tested by Labs like G.I.A and other

proper labs ?. None.

 

You will be shocked that most of the suppliers provide

false certifiates for stones. Most of them sell

Mazonite instead of diamonds ( It is a bad thing, but

a fact). Only a few can give you good certificates

from GIA. Even if one gives you certifiate you cannot

say that diamond was the cause of male progeny.

Diamonds with proper size effect you while Jewelry

embedded diamonds are smaller and cannot be detected

for clarity ( They need very high power lenses).

 

 

If i add things above your count will come down to

nothing. So dear Sir, do not blame Shastras for

something.

 

I gave you reasons for what i said. You do not want to

accept them, it is fine. You have your views. No

problems. But you cannot enslave my thinking or my

views.

 

I know you will never understand.

 

Best Regards,

 

A.J

 

 

--- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote:

 

> dear alok ji

>

> please remove any of such feelings like enemies as i

> love all human

> beings equally. all members in all groups are aware

> that i dont know

> sarcasm and write simple straight language.

>

> please do not delete the messages to which you

> respond a mail, so

> that the readers will know what was asked and what

> is written. this

> is the practice which all members follow.

>

> coming back to my mail, i asked you to corroborate

> your four bold

> statements viz. (pasted from my previous mail)

>

> 1. vedic astrology prohibits ladies from wearing a

> diamond.

> 2. diamond creates problems with mensturations for

> ladies.

> 3. ladies who want male child shall not wear a

> diamond.

> 4. however, a clear flawless diamond can be worn by

> ladies.

>

> point four is known to all and hence we need not

> shed more light on

> it. but then it contradicts your first statement.

> please clarify.

> the garuda puran have not said in its lone sholka on

> stones, that

> they are meant only for men and not women. no

> gender bias was shown

> for that matter in any classic.

>

> you have still not answered how you came to a

> conclusion that vedic

> astrology prohibits ladies from wearing a diamond

> and also warned

> the ladies who wear diamonds to have menstruation

> problems. this ia

> very bold and sweeping statmenet which is not true.

> there are no

> such rules in the vedic samhitas or vedic shastras.

> crores of women

> across the globe wear a diamond ring in their

> engagement itself,

> diamonds in their earrings or earlobes and also

> diamonds in their

> nosepins. i have seen crores of such women getting

> male children.

>

> as regards some book mentioned by you which says

> that a woman who

> wish to have male child shall not wear a diamond is

> absurd,

> unrealistic, false, irrational and illogical and not

> witnessed by

> crores of women. hence please do not publicicse

> such generalised

> statements which are far from truth.

>

> if you wish to respect the subject and respect the

> facts, i can

> furnish you hundreds of charts of women wearing

> diamonds having no

> problems as such.

>

> lastly, in academic debates, facts overweigh

> personalities. if any

> one says something which is untrue, it will not be

> accepted. please

> do keep sharing your knowledge which is based on

> facts and logic,

> for "yukti yuktam vako grahyam baladapi sukadapi".

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

> vedic astrology, ALOK JAGAWAT

>

> <osho_shadow wrote:

> >

> > Dear Arjun Ji,

> >

> > I am sure I am not your enemy because this is the

> > second time I am facing a sarcastic opposition

> from

> > your side. I hardly know you and so do you.

> >

> > Well I will answer and back up my statements.

> >

> > Chapter 2, Sloka 17 ( Rajnirghant)

> >

> > Vajram Na Kinchidapi Dharyativyameke,

> > Putrarthinibhirbalabhirushanti Tajagya:

> > Shringatkatriputdhanyakavat sthitam ya,

> > chashronibham cha shubhadam Tanyarthininam"

> >

> > This statement clearly states that a lady who

> wishes a

> > male child should avoid diamonds. Now when I said

> > flawless I meant something else. Flawless diamonds

> can

> > cast a CEO a two months salary and a bigger piece

> can

> > cost a fortune so I was not sure what it can give

> you.

> > That is why I remarked that in case of flawless

> > diamonds case can be different.

> >

> > Dear Arjun ji I respect astrologers and instead of

> > seeking and finding mistakes in others we should

> share

> > our knowledge with each other. I do not want to

> pursue

> > this matter further.

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > A.J

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> protection around

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

dear ravi ji

 

i preach and practice the principle of logic and rationale. yukti

heenam vakas tyajyam vruddhadapi sukadapi. if something is told by

sage suka which is illogical or irrational, it ought to be

rejected. similarly making a rule that women shall not wear

diamonds at all and then saying women willing to have male children

must not wear diamonds and then observing that diamonds cause

menstrual problems is all irrational and illogical and far from

truth.

 

let the learnt friend alok ji understand that we are against these

UNTRUE obsevations and not him.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

vedic astrology, Ravi shreevastava

<ravi_shreevastava wrote:

>

> Hi All!

>

> I think we should refrain from making this plateform

> for learned people a ground for personal rivalry.Very

> true to Arjunji,the verdict abt diamond is uncalled

> for and very misleading.Like any other gem,the effect

> are equally good depending on the quality of

> diamond,shukra position and karakatva.

>

> All doubts about menstrual problem and bad luck are

> misleading and nowhere near truth.The effect of the

> gems and mantras should be seeen in the light of its

> effect on people in practicality and should in the

> seen in the light of experience and experiment.

>

> There may be many contradiction in our shastras even

> about the basic laws of astrology.But these stark

> reveletion about diamond is something out of blue for

> me and should be avoided.

>

> Regards

> Ravi Shreevastava

> --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> > dear alok ji

> >

> > please remove any of such feelings like enemies as i

> > love all human

> > beings equally. all members in all groups are aware

> > that i dont know

> > sarcasm and write simple straight language.

> >

> > please do not delete the messages to which you

> > respond a mail, so

> > that the readers will know what was asked and what

> > is written. this

> > is the practice which all members follow.

> >

> > coming back to my mail, i asked you to corroborate

> > your four bold

> > statements viz. (pasted from my previous mail)

> >

> > 1. vedic astrology prohibits ladies from wearing a

> > diamond.

> > 2. diamond creates problems with mensturations for

> > ladies.

> > 3. ladies who want male child shall not wear a

> > diamond.

> > 4. however, a clear flawless diamond can be worn by

> > ladies.

> >

> > point four is known to all and hence we need not

> > shed more light on

> > it. but then it contradicts your first statement.

> > please clarify.

> > the garuda puran have not said in its lone sholka on

> > stones, that

> > they are meant only for men and not women. no

> > gender bias was shown

> > for that matter in any classic.

> >

> > you have still not answered how you came to a

> > conclusion that vedic

> > astrology prohibits ladies from wearing a diamond

> > and also warned

> > the ladies who wear diamonds to have menstruation

> > problems. this ia

> > very bold and sweeping statmenet which is not true.

> > there are no

> > such rules in the vedic samhitas or vedic shastras.

> > crores of women

> > across the globe wear a diamond ring in their

> > engagement itself,

> > diamonds in their earrings or earlobes and also

> > diamonds in their

> > nosepins. i have seen crores of such women getting

> > male children.

> >

> > as regards some book mentioned by you which says

> > that a woman who

> > wish to have male child shall not wear a diamond is

> > absurd,

> > unrealistic, false, irrational and illogical and not

> > witnessed by

> > crores of women. hence please do not publicicse

> > such generalised

> > statements which are far from truth.

> >

> > if you wish to respect the subject and respect the

> > facts, i can

> > furnish you hundreds of charts of women wearing

> > diamonds having no

> > problems as such.

> >

> > lastly, in academic debates, facts overweigh

> > personalities. if any

> > one says something which is untrue, it will not be

> > accepted. please

> > do keep sharing your knowledge which is based on

> > facts and logic,

> > for "yukti yuktam vako grahyam baladapi sukadapi".

> >

> > with best wishes

> > pandit arjun

> >

> > vedic astrology, ALOK JAGAWAT

> >

> > <osho_shadow@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Arjun Ji,

> > >

> > > I am sure I am not your enemy because this is the

> > > second time I am facing a sarcastic opposition

> > from

> > > your side. I hardly know you and so do you.

> > >

> > > Well I will answer and back up my statements.

> > >

> > > Chapter 2, Sloka 17 ( Rajnirghant)

> > >

> > > Vajram Na Kinchidapi Dharyativyameke,

> > > Putrarthinibhirbalabhirushanti Tajagya:

> > > Shringatkatriputdhanyakavat sthitam ya,

> > > chashronibham cha shubhadam Tanyarthininam"

> > >

> > > This statement clearly states that a lady who

> > wishes a

> > > male child should avoid diamonds. Now when I said

> > > flawless I meant something else. Flawless diamonds

> > can

> > > cast a CEO a two months salary and a bigger piece

> > can

> > > cost a fortune so I was not sure what it can give

> > you.

> > > That is why I remarked that in case of flawless

> > > diamonds case can be different.

> > >

> > > Dear Arjun ji I respect astrologers and instead of

> > > seeking and finding mistakes in others we should

> > share

> > > our knowledge with each other. I do not want to

> > pursue

> > > this matter further.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > A.J

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> > protection around

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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