Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Yes Guru Ji , what a great Astro Guru , I have Venus and Jup in 5th in Navamsa so I guess I fall quickly in Love. Regards, JL Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: vyam vyasadevaya namah Dear Tarun, comments below regards Rafal Gendarz - Tarun Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:06 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond Dear Rafal ji, Thanks for replying my mail. This mail has definitely enlighten my doubts. Sir i wished to ask that how much venus influence should be seen for such type of cases. [rafal] you can study extramaritial cases from "crux of vedic astrology". moon in kona to mercury gives loose morals, and also mercury/shukra in scorpio (deb of moon). this is checked by Jupiter (Brhaspati accepting Buddha) in Kona to Navamsa Lagna. there is no question of how much, because there is need for depth study and there is no shortcuts to this..sarwartha cintamani points also malefics in ninth for this.. 2nd from Upapada shows only to which upapada this extramaritialities will come..but they must be there in chart (of native or spouse). Sir what about A7 placements as Visti ji said that A-7 shows the persons coming to you and there intentions, means house in which A7 comes. Like if A7 comes in cancer or if it comes in Sign of saturn like capricorn or aquarious. [rafal] this will show lagna of short-terms partners and buisness-companies. bhava will/can indicate source of initiative while sign will show place/nature. bhava is always important for us while rasi is for others/world Many says that if a person have venus in 5th house then his mind always moves in making such kind of relations and he gets bored in having relations with one single person. [rafal] This is for romantic personality which fall quickly in love..but not neccesary loose morals or short-term attitude. Getting bored comes from lack of harmony in relationship..deva will always feel bored with rakshasa and vice versa...rahu and ketu need excitement therefore there is need for compatibility...if You talk about getting bored coming from shadripus(attitude towards many partners or many various emotions coming from relation) then there is need for full-colour or many-colour partner like rahu-type (diplomacy) are. If they cannot find them then it is still karma (fasting for correction). If You talk about boring coming from realization and high conciousness then either celibacy (sani on UL without Jup influence with AL yuti) or duty-oriented brahmana marriage with higher ambitions that simply having fun..(ketu in seventh or sevent lord AK)..then again this partner should be there to fill the space...people have variouos attitudes/conciousness as material world has raja guna (buddha - variety like sour-sweet dishes). Should Navamasa should be given prime importance. in this regards. As jupiter roles sincerity and honesty & above all it rules the sense of right and wrong. [rafal] navamsa is always more concrete but start with rasi. to be good jyotishi there is need for holistic approach coming from satva guna...so say vyam vyasadevya namah.. Please guide me further Thanks and Regards Tarun Rafal Gendarz wrote: hraum adityaya namah Dear Tarun, This kind of extramaritial events are due to karma done in our previous lives which is seen by presence of afflicted Venus or A7 in second to specific Upapada. Second bhava from A12 will tell us what is the excuse partner give to break the marriage while true reason is seen in Nava-amsa where detailed situation exists. In Kali yuga the quality of relationship is low therefore we shouldnt be surprised by events You mentioned in Your mail. There are eight types of Vivaha and every has its own characteristics. If nodes influence the seventh bhava in navamsa then first relationship is Pisaca Vivaha and can begin at some party etc. Guru is Brahma, Mars Daiva, Moon Arsha and Surya Prajapatya. Asura Graha defines the left four marriages. Tarun, mental tie is not enough. Morality and resposnibility is important. This is seen by the Satwik and Holy Jupiter present in Kona to Navamsa Lagna or Moon. Mental ties can be seen by Kuta matching (Vasya koota, Gana koota and other..). Next thing is how the partner treat us & how we treat the partner - there can be mismatch, as we can treat our girl as A7 and she can have UL attitude or vice versa. Upapada fasting is remedy for all this mess..through mantra we can be free (to some degree) from pecularities of lower forces.. hope this gives some light.. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Tarun Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:55 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond Dear Visit ji & Rafal ji, i read an article published in newspaper today that now a days 90 % divorce cases are increasing because of the intimate relationship developing between the woman and the men working in her office or her circle. Husband and wife are living with each other but the true sense of support and the friendship is lacking between the couple, which is needed to run the happy married life.and so their relationship outside the marriage, starts. Even in my case the relationship broke due to the same problem. Sir is there any proper astrological meaning of this term which we can define about the mental bond between the couple instead of just living together. A proper mental bond which is needed. Thanks and Regards Tarun Agarwal Thanks, Jyotish Learner Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Dear Tarun, Gemini is noway related to Ganesh ji in my humble opinion.. You can very well do wednesday Upavas and try to please lord of Mercury,ie, Vishnu ji. dear Rafal ji,please add if I missed something in replying him.. Best wishes and Regards, Amit , Tarun <tarun.virgo wrote: > > Dear Rafal ji, > > Thanks for a very informative post. > > This time i dont have any questions related to this thing. > Sir please guide me about my UL. > My UL is in Gemini, should i worship ganesha so that my UL is empowered. > 19-07-1983 > 10.35 am > jodhpur-India > > thanks and Best Regards > Tarun > > Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > > > > vyam vyasadevaya namah > > Dear Tarun, > > comments below > > regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > - > > ** Tarun <tarun.virgo > > *To:* > > <> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:06 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond > > > > Dear Rafal ji, > > > > Thanks for replying my mail. > > > > This mail has definitely enlighten my doubts. Sir i wished to ask > > that how much venus influence should be seen for such type of cases. > > > > [rafal] > > > > you can study extramaritial cases from "crux of vedic astrology". > > moon in kona to mercury gives loose morals, and also > > mercury/shukra in scorpio (deb of moon). this is checked by > > Jupiter (Brhaspati accepting Buddha) in Kona to Navamsa Lagna. > > there is no question of how much, because there is need for depth > > study and there is no shortcuts to this..sarwartha cintamani > > points also malefics in ninth for this.. 2nd from Upapada shows > > only to which upapada this extramaritialities will come..but they > > must be there in chart (of native or spouse). > > > > > > Sir what about A7 placements as Visti ji said that A-7 shows the > > persons coming to you and there intentions, means house in which > > A7 comes. Like if A7 comes in cancer or if it comes in Sign of > > saturn like capricorn or aquarious. > > > > [rafal] this will show lagna of short-terms partners and > > buisness-companies. bhava will/can indicate source of initiative > > while sign will show place/nature. bhava is always important for > > us while rasi is for others/world > > > > Many says that if a person have venus in 5th house then his mind > > always moves in making such kind of relations and he gets bored in > > having relations with one single person. > > > > [rafal] This is for romantic personality which fall quickly in > > love..but not neccesary loose morals or short-term attitude. > > Getting bored comes from lack of harmony in relationship..deva > > will always feel bored with rakshasa and vice versa...rahu and > > ketu need excitement therefore there is need for > > compatibility...if You talk about getting bored coming from > > shadripus(attitude towards many partners or many various emotions > > coming from relation) then there is need for full-colour or > > many-colour partner like rahu-type (diplomacy) are. If they cannot > > find them then it is still karma (fasting for correction). If You > > talk about boring coming from realization and high conciousness > > then either celibacy (sani on UL without Jup influence with AL > > yuti) or duty-oriented brahmana marriage with higher ambitions > > that simply having fun..(ketu in seventh or sevent lord AK)..then > > again this partner should be there to fill the space...people have > > variouos attitudes/conciousness as material world has raja guna > > (buddha - variety like sour-sweet dishes). > > > > > > > > > > Should Navamasa should be given prime importance. in this regards. > > As jupiter roles sincerity and honesty & above all it rules the > > sense of right and wrong. > > > > [rafal] navamsa is always more concrete but start with rasi. to be > > good jyotishi there is need for holistic approach coming from > > satva guna...so say vyam vyasadevya namah.. > > > > Please guide me further > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > Rafal Gendarz wrote: > > > >> /hraum adityaya namah/ > >> Dear Tarun, > >> > >> This kind of extramaritial events are due to karma done in > >> our previous lives which is seen by presence of afflicted Venus > >> or A7 in second to specific Upapada. Second bhava from A12 will > >> tell us what is the excuse partner give to break the marriage > >> while true reason is seen in Nava-amsa where detailed situation > >> exists. In Kali yuga the quality of relationship is low therefore > >> we shouldnt be surprised by events You mentioned in Your mail. > >> There are eight types of Vivaha and every has its own > >> characteristics. If nodes influence the seventh bhava in navamsa > >> then first relationship is Pisaca Vivaha and can begin at some > >> party etc. Guru is Brahma, Mars Daiva, Moon Arsha and Surya > >> Prajapatya. Asura Graha defines the left four marriages. > >> > >> Tarun, mental tie is not enough. Morality and resposnibility > >> is important. This is seen by the Satwik and Holy Jupiter present > >> in Kona to Navamsa Lagna or Moon. Mental ties can be seen by Kuta > >> matching (Vasya koota, Gana koota and other..). > >> > >> Next thing is how the partner treat us & how we treat the > >> partner - there can be mismatch, as we can treat our girl as A7 > >> and she can have UL attitude or vice versa. > >> > >> Upapada fasting is remedy for all this mess..through > >> mantra we can be free (to some degree) from pecularities of lower > >> forces.. > >> > >> hope this gives some light.. > >> > >> Regards > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> > >> > >> - > >> ** Tarun <tarun.virgo > >> *To:* > >> <> > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:55 AM > >> *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond > >> > >> Dear Visit ji & Rafal ji, > >> > >> i read an article published in newspaper today that now a > >> days 90 % > >> divorce cases are increasing because of the intimate > >> relationship > >> developing between the woman and the men working in her > >> office or her > >> circle. > >> Husband and wife are living with each other but the true > >> sense of > >> support and the friendship is lacking between the couple, > >> which is > >> needed to run the happy married life.and so their > >> relationship outside > >> the marriage, starts. > >> Even in my case the relationship broke due to the same problem. > >> > >> Sir is there any proper astrological meaning of this term > >> which we can > >> define about the mental bond between the couple instead of > >> just living > >> together. A proper mental bond which is needed. > >> > >> Thanks and Regards > >> > >> Tarun Agarwal > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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