Swami P on devotee hardship

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Ammachi, Sweta Mitzel <swetabc wrote:

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> Thank you for sharing S. P's words. I've also experienced some hardships just before

Amma's arrival. I almost felt anxious ths year, wondering what would happen this time.

 

I've read both his autobiography and all the volumes of his talks. He mentions this so

many times, about how devotees often approached him to ask why their lives became so

much more difficult after finding Amma. In the one place (can't remember which book!)

where he actually quotes Amma as saying that she causes this, that she creates some of

these circumstances for us, I practically jumped up and exclaimed, "AHA! SHE ADMITS IT!"

 

*grin*

 

Blessings,

Iswari

 

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> After 2 Devi Bhavas it seemed I was working off some specific karma. I imagined that I

could see the possible, logical karmic cause, of one incident.

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> Sweta

> ammasiswari <ammasiswari wrote: Just to clarify, I am really

not one of those people who is always talking about Amma doing

> this or that to her or taking this or that away from her or shirking her own

responsibilities

> by chalking everything up to "Amma's will." But I know when Amma has her hands all

over

> something, because it gets extreme and ridiculous in ways that cause people's jaws to

> drop and their minds to boggle (and I have noticed a pattern of these things happening

in

> the month or so before she's due to arrive). In Swami P's books, he often talks about

> devotees wondering why their lives become so much harder after coming to Amma. At

one

> point, he actually quotes her as saying that she causes these hardships on purpose. I

don't

> think every bad thing that happens is Amma working on me, but I'm sure that this one

is.

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> Sometimes, I think it's just our karma or even random happenstance, but sometimes I

do

> truly believe that she causes/exacerbates hardship. I don't doubt that it's for my own

> spiritual growth and I don't doubt that it is her compassion for us that leads her to do

> these things, but knowing that, truthfully, doesn't always make it much easier to take.

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> I have noticed that I'm suffering much less acutely now than I did before. I'm not sure if

it's

> detachment or just resignation. Though I'm tired and sad and sometimes wanting to

shake

> Amma's picture while demanding to know when it'll end...it doesn't hurt as much as it

did.

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> Iswari

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> Ammachi, "ammasflower" <ammasflower@> wrote:

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> > Dear Ishwari,

> > I can relate to feeling similar feelings. However, although several

> > people around Amma are always talking about how she is "doing this or

> > that to them" or "taking this or that away" I don't really see it that

> > way any more. I think that it is just the nature of the samsara that

> > we experience for things to come and go and not necessarily something

> > that Amma, the person and our mother, is "doing" to us. I think Mother

> > is there to help us awaken out of this experiences of suffering which

> > are bound to come whether we are attached to Amma or not. Her pure

> > motivation is compassion for us.

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> > And even if I am wrong and she deliberatly causes us suffering then I

> > think in the grand scheme of things it will really bring us closer to

> > liberation because she sees the big picture and we don't. I wanted to

> > share a story that I heard recently from a friend who's friend had

> > brought his son to get vaccinated. As he was holding his son down on

> > the table he started to scream "daddy, help me!" but when his father

> > continued to hold him down he looked at him with the ultimate look of

> > "you betrayed me!". The father felt terrible but how could he explain

> > to his son that this was really potentially going to save him from a

> > lot of future suffering should he contract a disease? So, perhaps it

> > is like this story with Amma too.

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> > I pray that your suffering is alieviated.

> > Lily

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