Size of Universe ???

July 3, 2006

We know that the Universe is expanding. Right?

Think this way...........might get answer.

Deven

Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:

Here's a good question: In Srimad Bhagavat Mahapuranam is a verse as

follows: SB 5.20.38: Learned scholars who are free from mistakes,

illusions and propensities to cheat have thus described the planetary

systems and their particular symptoms, measurements and locations.

With great deliberation, they have established the truth that the

distance between Sumeru and the mountain known as Lokaloka is one

fourth of the diameter of the universe which is 125,000,000

yojanas [1 billion miles]. So this means the diameter of the univese

(Brahmanda) is given as 4 billion miles.

And yet modern science has proven that the universe is actually about "At present the universe is believed to be at least 10 billion light-years in diameter." - and one light year is 5,865,696,000,000 miles (9,460,800,000,000 kilometers). This would make the Vedic model wildly inaccurate. Any comments. We for sure know that the Moon is closer to the Earth than the Sun, but Puranas say opposite. And I could never expected saints thousands of years ago to measure or know the size of the Universe. But it seems shastra is hugely wrong in this matter even they seem so sure of themselves!?

But we don't approach Srimad Bhagavata for material scientific knowledge, we approach for adyatmik vidya, because SB is the Paramahansa Samhita... for self realization. To a paramahansa the size of the unverse is unimportant and useless knowledge.

Best rgds,

Richard

sacred-objects, "yourstruelyprince"

<yourstruelyprince wrote:

>

> Hi people )

> Look at this BBC science report.

> Yes it is really the 10 billion trillion trillion carats diamond, but

> so much far away from earth. 50 light years distance away. (one light

> year is 9,500,000,000,000 kilometers)

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3492919.stm

> see you, Ketan.

>

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July 3, 2006

Dear Sriman,

Science has proved the speed of light is 5,865,696,000,000 miles in an

earth year. So we know from even one light year that Shastra is way

off saying the diameter of the universe is 4 billion miles. How big it

really is ??? But for sure it's WAYYYYYY bigger than 4 billion miles.

That's the macroscopic view; BUT, on the microscopic view Shastra

revealed the "sub-atomic particle" (paramanu) and the "atom" (anu) at

least thousands of years before modern science knew it. This is

described in Srimad Bhagavat Maha-purana, Canto III, Chapter XI

English Translations

Verse 1: (The great sage) Maitreya said: "The smallest particle of

material substance, which has not yet combined with any other similar

particles, is called paramanu (a sub-atomic particle of matter).

Paramanus always exist both in the dormant and manifest states of

material existence (Mahat-tattva). It is the combination of more than

one paramanu (sub-atomic particle) which gives rise to the illusory

concept of a (material) unit.

Verse 2: And the entire manifest material existence, taken as a

non-specific whole, and before returning to an unmanifest (dormant)

state, is defined as the largest (material) size.

Verse 3: We can understand the short and long dimensions of (material)

time, as a potency of the Supreme all-pervading transcendental Lord,

Who, in the form of the Sun, passes across the small and large

dimensions of (material) things.

Verse 4: The amount of time it takes the Sun to pass across the

smallest particle of matter is called paramanu which is the smallest

measure of time, while the period it takes to cross the total expanse

of material creation is called the longest measure of time.

Verse 5: A combination of two paramanus constitutes an anu (atom); and

three anus (atoms) makes one trasarenu. Trasarenus are visable [to

the naked eye] when seen floating upward in the air while viewed

through rays of sunlight which enter a room through a latticed window.

So here Shastra is amazingly right!!!

Best rgds,

Richard

sacred-objects, deven chopra

<chopradeven81 wrote:

>

> We know that the Universe is expanding. Right?

>

> Think this way...........might get answer.

>

> Deven

>

> Richard Shaw-Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

> Here's a good question: In Srimad Bhagavat Mahapuranam is

a verse as

> follows: SB 5.20.38: Learned scholars who are free from mistakes,

> illusions and propensities to cheat have thus described the planetary

> systems and their particular symptoms, measurements and locations.

> With great deliberation, they have established the truth that the

> distance between Sumeru and the mountain known as Lokaloka is one

> fourth of the diameter of the universe which is 125,000,000

> yojanas [1 billion miles]. So this means the diameter of the univese

> (Brahmanda) is given as 4 billion miles.

>

> And yet modern science has proven that the universe is actually

about "At present the universe is believed to be at least 10 billion

light-years in diameter." - and one light year is 5,865,696,000,000

miles (9,460,800,000,000 kilometers). This would make the Vedic model

wildly inaccurate. Any comments. We for sure know that the Moon is

closer to the Earth than the Sun, but Puranas say opposite. And I

could never expected saints thousands of years ago to measure or know

the size of the Universe. But it seems shastra is hugely wrong in this

matter even they seem so sure of themselves!?

>

> But we don't approach Srimad Bhagavata for material scientific

knowledge, we approach for adyatmik vidya, because SB is the

Paramahansa Samhita... for self realization. To a paramahansa the size

of the unverse is unimportant and useless knowledge.

>

> Best rgds,

> Richard

>

> sacred-objects, "yourstruelyprince"

> <yourstruelyprince@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi people )

> > Look at this BBC science report.

> > Yes it is really the 10 billion trillion trillion carats diamond, but

> > so much far away from earth. 50 light years distance away. (one light

> > year is 9,500,000,000,000 kilometers)

> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3492919.stm

> > see you, Ketan.

> >

>

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July 4, 2006

Dear Richard,

A friend of mine who read Thompson's book from Bhaktivedanta Institute commented that the 4 billion mile dimension given in the Bhagavatam is just the measured distance of the Bhu Mandala plain extending to the Loka mountain range....sort of like the Dimension of Social capacity for this particular Mandala within the greater universal shell....not sure how to confirm or deny such understandings....but a good place to start for anyone interested in this subject matter would be to read this book..

~ Ole

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September 4, 2006

Dear friends,

Having talked with an enlightened man none other than my uncle about enlightenment, I was told that his words were fresh from the mind, as it had only been 2 months since he had been enlightened and I was the blessed one to hear his words first. I learnt from him that everything..literally "everything" is inside us. To realize what we have, we must travel through to the stage of enlightenment. Many who have attained enlightenment have gone in search of the occurrances of previous yugas and have discovered the truth within themselves. Perhaps this is also a way of finding out the boundary of the universe?

Om Shantih

Ambika