Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Dear RR, Thank you. Yours is the best post of this entire exhausting thread. There have been at least THREE sources cited that indicated WAR TIME in India during the period of this person's birth (from software sources or Doane's book), and then one or two others saying there was no war time and citing *no* sources whatsoever (unless I've missed them). There is simply no substitute for doing the necessary leg work, including picking up the phone, or writing to the hospital or hall of records, or researching the time changes at the library through the newspaper archives for those years. Time change books and such resources as Astrodienst are generally quite accurate, but *not* always. I will cite you an outstanding example of one of my clients born in one of the more confusing time zone states in the US--Kentucky. Not only is this state confusing when it comes to what time zone it was under, but also when daylight savings was in effect. According to the particular town this person was born in, Astrodienst gives CST, but that turned out to be completely wrong when my client personally researched the time change notifications for her place at her local library. There it was in black and white as the newspaper listed EDT contrary to all the known time change information from all the so-called official sources, and her chart came into perfect alignment when the proper time zone was applied. Her efforts saved me HOURS of work from tedious or needless speculations about her lagna. If a client is truly motivated to have an accurate chart, it's up to THEM to do this work because there are not enough hours in the day for most astrologers to research incomplete birth information throughout the entire world. In this instance, it was her own dedicated leg-work that made the difference, and sometimes these extra efforts are absolutely imperative to verify the official time zone or daylight savings in effect. I think what I miss most in the astrology community --and the situation has gotten worse with the reliance on computers to do one's thinking--is that one-pointed scientific rigor has been replaced by a complacent mental laziness. What then takes place are these endless speculative debates about what ascendant is correct, and the plethora of rationalizations in support of either one, seemingly chosen on planetary-placement descriptions or personality factors alone. It is only when the official documentary sources are thoroughly exhausted that these kind of speculative debates are justified, in my opinion, and worth the valuable time within the community of astrologers. When these documentary sources have been rigorously investigated and nothing turns up--okay. Then the next step is a thorough rectification based upon more than one or two events using a combination of dasha *and* transits rather than relying on personality factors alone In this case, this kind of time zone investigation has not been completed with accurate sources cited saying there was no war time in effect and yet all this time in discussion down the drain over basically nothing. Speaking as an outsider, I have never seen the world of Indian astrology --the greatest astrology in the world!--in such careless disarray, and I repeatedly lament this sorry state of affairs as the intellectual sloppiness increases year after year. I would also say that when a person says their chart was rectified...Well, how was it rectified? What were the astrologer's resources? How much time did they spend on it? How many events did they use? What techniques did they use? Did they check the transits too, or just the operating periods? What was the expertise and experience of the astrologer? This is another area where the lack of scientific rigor has lowered the standards of this beautiful science and art. What I particularly love is when someone says something like, "Well, I have little experience on the subject, but I think the right answer is such and such," and no argument is even presented. This is not what I would cite as scientific knowledge or intellectual rigor. In any event, thanks again for bringing out the need for further research and the citing of sources. Sincerely, Haizen Paige , "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Pratap ji, > > You mentioned that you have doubts about your birthtime and wartime > etc. The latter should be easier to figure out and probably more > substantial (1h difference). What was the source of your birthtime? > Was it something you were told by one of your parents or was it > written down in a family diary or document such as birthchart > prepared around birth? > > Fact of the matter is that methods of rectification, though many and > used and claimed by many to be fail-proof are generally not so. > Horoscopic traits and even event analysis again are not absolutely > perfect because astrological deductions are not absolute or based on > a perfect correlation between planetary configurations and > traits/events. In fact there have been studies done where individuals > were given a variety of readings, some based on their charts, others > based on other charts and the acceptance of both groups did not turn > out to be significantly different. People saw themselves in readings > which were based on their chart as well as the ones that were random. > Most people are far more complex and varied than any reading they ar > given based on traits and tendencies, so there is always something > that shows up that fits. In fact this is the reason why people even > fit with their sunsign readings which are based on a different > zodiac. I think there is a name for this phenomenon -- Barnum effect, > if I recall correctly. > > If you are really serious about it you should research the source of > birthtime and ascertain what is the story there. > > Just a thought, > > RR > > , Pratap Kaneria > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > There was no issue of trust with my father. I have always believed > in 'live and let live' policy and I just could not stand his > dictatorial attitude and that why never had much communication with > him. > > > > What I said about education and work is honest. Let me give > couple of points of description of myself as I see them. I am lazy > when it comes anything physical. I love to sleep, stay up late, get > up late on my schedule and take afternoon naps. Always looking for > short cuts. But I love solving problems that require use of brains. > For example I collected data on horse racing for about 20 yrs trying > to figure out a system to make a killing. I must have spent may be > 10,000 hrs doing that. Then I gave it up completely and suddenly. > When I am not writing or reading my emails, I am either reading books > on astrology or hypnotism or something like that or I am figuring > out 'Sudoku' puzzles of evil category (hardest). I am quite extemist > in the sense that either I like something very much or I don't like > it at all. There is no middle ground. If I do something I will do it > intensively and with singular focus. I absolutely do not like > confrontation. Therefore most of the time instead > > of arguing even when I am right, I will just agree to avoid > confrontation. That does not mean I have really agreed. My opinions > hardly ever change. I am obstinate that way. I am very adaptable, can > put up with things that I don't like for long time if I need to. I am > self-reliant, adaptable, independent and very confident. I was very > ambitious when I started working but not anymore. I have knowledge > of many subjects but always superficial. Oh, one other thing I am not > a good student in the sense that I always question anything taught to > me. May be that is why I haven't learned anything in depth. > > > > Why am I telling you all this? May be because it might get you > interested in looking at my chart and making a prediction that will > come true in near future. > > > > Yes I have doubts about my birthtime and wartime corrections. And > that is why I was inquiring about the application of divisional > charts the other day. I am not entirely convinced about astrology and > all the rules written in so many books because many are quite > contradictory. Yet I want to believe that there must be a few people > who have mastered this science enough to make a definitive > prediction. With so many rules, like Pradeep said, any past event can > be explained by one or the other rule that applies, because there are > thousands of rules to choose from. > > > > One thing I have concluded is that a person who does not believe > in astrology or has no interest in astrology, is a person happy in > all aspects of life. > > > > Pratap > > > > I > > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > I was going with venus since it has been named as a karaka for > mother > > in certain contexts. > > So there was a less than optimum trust with one of the parents! > > > > Regarding -- teachers I am glad that you had no problem. Was there > > something with the type of education that you found yourself in or > > the educational system, the entire experience that could connect > with > > the theme of suspicion, excessive caution, mistrust? > > > > Please do not think of me as judgmental but there does seem to be > an > > undercurrent of very strong vein of disbelief and suspicion and > lack > > of trust, if you are being perfectly honest here! > > > > You Sir do not even trust your own birthdata, the very source of > your > > astrological being! This is not meaningless! Obviously you are not > > all that laid-back and lazy and easy-going as you tried to portray > > yourself or perhaps view yourself as ;-) > > > > I looked up Doris Chase Doane's Time Changes in the World (predates > > my computers and software and it states: > > DST (same as WT) observed 1942-sep-01 to 1945-oct-15 except: > > Bengal province (specific dates given) > > Assam province (sp dates) > > Bihar province (sp dates) > > > > Gujrat is not mentioned! > > > > This is not definitive but seems like you would have to do some > more > > research and find out what was really being followed in Dohraji at > > the time of your birth! > > > > Suspicion - even manageable paranoia - disbelief is not all that > bad, > > trust me! The only reason we are still not in some cave, eating > roots > > and insects is because we did not trust status quo! We decided to > > crawl out of the caves!! > > > > Please seek enlightenment and while you are at it, searching your > > astrological roots, enlighten and educate us! > > > > I say that with all sincerity!! > > > > RR > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected RRji, > > > > > > Honest answer is no. I never got along with my father but my > > relationship with my mother has been very good throughtout. As far > as > > my teachers, excellent relationship and as a matter of fact I was a > > favorite student wherever I studied, to the extent that during my > > master's program (US), my professor came to me during the final > exam > > of 'Mass Transfer' and told me to leave because he thought I knew > the > > subject so well that I need not give the exam. It was one of the > > greatest honor a student can get. Similarly, wherever I worked, my > > managers were actually my protectors and promoters. To summarize, I > > must have tremendous blessing of Guru because I always got along > with > > elders, teachers, bosses and still do. > > > > > > I really do not understand my horoscope. All the malefic planets > > seem to act very much in my favor. I can not figure out really who > is > > malefic for me. By the way I have been diligently trying to rectify > > my birthtime and it looks like 22:00:40.934 seem to work. This new > > time does not change my rasi chart but navamsa lagna changes to > > Gemini making my lagna vargottam. Also it makes Rahu and Ketu > > vargottam. > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > crystal pages wrote: > > > How intersting! I see that someone else has responded to the rahu > > in > > > 1 or 2 issue so I will save bandwidth! > > > > > > Just curious was there element of mistrust or suspicion between > you > > > and your parents, perhaps mother or an auntie at some point in > > life? > > > Also with teachers or educational system perhaps? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected RRji, > > > > > > > > I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in > > > Mithuna Lagna together with Shani. > > > > > > > > Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly > always - > > > - it makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does > not > > > apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, > lazy > > > and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone > until > > > proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting > > nature, > > > I have lost a fortune via investments in projects of friends and > > > family and stock market. Again this may be an example of how > > looking > > > at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion. > > > > > > > > My birth data is > > > > DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 > > > (Dhoraji, India) > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayamalur wrote: > > > > Dear sir > > > > > > > > I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. > > Infact > > > i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna. > > > > > > > > Can you analyse my horoscope pls > > > > > > > > vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female) > > > > > > > > I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as > > The > > > latter would > > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up > > > losing a > > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and > loved > > > ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of > > mine > > > to my family sir > > > > > > > > I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce > > the > > > ill effect of it > > > > > > > > eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply > > > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > > > vijaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > crystal pages > > > > > > > > Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM > > > > Re: Rahu in Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Milind, > > > > > > > > Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating? > > > > Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding > > > mantras? > > > > Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get > > > fixed > > > > (assuming that it is broken in the first place?). > > > > > > > > Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes > the > > > native > > > > very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that > > the > > > > individuals do not get duped easily, at least not > > > materialistically, > > > > but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their > > > lifeplan > > > > but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter > > > would > > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up > > > losing a > > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and > loved > > > ones. > > > > > > > > The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The > characteristics > > of > > > > that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes > > > offers > > > > the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not > > > always > > > > need a mantra or gemstone etc. > > > > > > > > Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your > > > data, I > > > > could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are > really > > > > looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do > > so > > > and > > > > someone will pick up the thread. > > > > > > > > It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed > > box! > > > In > > > > the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad > roles > > > and > > > > bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed > > the > > > > window of our mind! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "padhyemilind2002" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever > it > > > is > > > > > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun > is > > > > > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other > > > planets > > > > > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 > > > degrees > > > > > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, > and > > > hence > > > > I > > > > > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these > > positions. > > > Any > > > > > ideas? > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Dear Haizen, I agree with you that the accuracy of the seed information must be carried out. I am not very sure if documentation is easy to retrieve if the birth took place in a smaller town in India or even a village. Even though watches and clocks existed, there were probably not that many sources available for calibrating those. The railway station clock probably was the most accurate but how often was that corrected back in the days of mechanical clocks which tended to vary over the day itself as the clockwork spring wound down. This is further complicated by the somewhat unclear and not well-documented records. Birth charts were in many cases prepared soon after birth so the epoch was recorded -- however in many of those horoscopes the epoch was recorded not as clock time but as'duration from sunrise' or ishta (in ghatis and vighatis. Since the moment or time of sunrise was not recorded in many charts that I studied of older people, if we back- calculate using modern sunrise times, the time comes out to be several minutes to many minutes off. This causes problems obviously. This much variation even without taking into consideration what exactly should be considered the moment of birth, different ayanamshas and so on and so forth. Many individuals although interested in astrology often report times quite carelessly and with rounding up or down. Upon requestioning, other times emerge, and many of the times are routinely doctored by astrologers but the individual does not report that in the first go. For any serious reading done on an indian birth, it is wise to go into a bit of scrutiny and not take just the time that was offered at first. Particularly if the birthdata is from days prior to 50s. More to worry about, I suppose ...! Rohiniranjan , "haizen" <haizen wrote: > > Dear RR, > > Thank you. Yours is the best post of this entire > exhausting thread. There have been at least > THREE sources cited that indicated WAR TIME > in India during the period of this person's birth > (from software sources or Doane's book), and > then one or two others saying there was no war > time and citing *no* sources whatsoever (unless > I've missed them). There is simply no substitute > for doing the necessary leg work, including > picking up the phone, or writing to the hospital > or hall of records, or researching the time changes > at the library through the newspaper archives for > those years. > > Time change books and such resources as > Astrodienst are generally quite accurate, but > *not* always. I will cite you an outstanding > example of one of my clients born in one of > the more confusing time zone states in the > US--Kentucky. Not only is this state confusing > when it comes to what time zone it was under, > but also when daylight savings was in effect. > According to the particular town this person > was born in, Astrodienst gives CST, but that > turned out to be completely wrong when my > client personally researched the time change > notifications for her place at her local library. > There it was in black and white as the newspaper > listed EDT contrary to all the known time change > information from all the so-called official sources, > and her chart came into perfect alignment when > the proper time zone was applied. Her efforts saved > me HOURS of work from tedious or needless > speculations about her lagna. If a client is truly > motivated to have an accurate chart, it's up to > THEM to do this work because there are not > enough hours in the day for most astrologers > to research incomplete birth information throughout > the entire world. In this instance, it was her own > dedicated leg-work that made the difference, and > sometimes these extra efforts are absolutely > imperative to verify the official time zone or > daylight savings in effect. > > I think what I miss most in the astrology community > --and the situation has gotten worse with the reliance > on computers to do one's thinking--is that one-pointed > scientific rigor has been replaced by a complacent mental > laziness. What then takes place are these endless > speculative debates about what ascendant is correct, > and the plethora of rationalizations in support of either > one, seemingly chosen on planetary-placement descriptions > or personality factors alone. It is only when the official > documentary sources are thoroughly exhausted that these > kind of speculative debates are justified, in my opinion, > and worth the valuable time within the community of > astrologers. When these documentary sources have been > rigorously investigated and nothing turns up--okay. Then > the next step is a thorough rectification based upon more > than one or two events using a combination of dasha *and* > transits rather than relying on personality factors alone In > this case, this kind of time zone investigation has not been > completed with accurate sources cited saying there was > no war time in effect and yet all this time in discussion > down the drain over basically nothing. Speaking as an > outsider, I have never seen the world of Indian astrology > --the greatest astrology in the world!--in such careless > disarray, and I repeatedly lament this sorry state of > affairs as the intellectual sloppiness increases year after > year. > > I would also say that when a person says their chart was > rectified...Well, how was it rectified? What were the > astrologer's resources? How much time did they spend > on it? How many events did they use? What techniques > did they use? Did they check the transits too, or just the > operating periods? What was the expertise and experience > of the astrologer? This is another area where the lack of > scientific rigor has lowered the standards of this beautiful > science and art. What I particularly love is when someone > says something like, "Well, I have little experience on the > subject, but I think the right answer is such and such," and > no argument is even presented. This is not what I would > cite as scientific knowledge or intellectual rigor. > > In any event, thanks again for bringing out the need for > further research and the citing of sources. > > Sincerely, Haizen Paige > > , "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Pratap ji, > > > > You mentioned that you have doubts about your birthtime and wartime > > etc. The latter should be easier to figure out and probably more > > substantial (1h difference). What was the source of your birthtime? > > Was it something you were told by one of your parents or was it > > written down in a family diary or document such as birthchart > > prepared around birth? > > > > Fact of the matter is that methods of rectification, though many and > > used and claimed by many to be fail-proof are generally not so. > > Horoscopic traits and even event analysis again are not absolutely > > perfect because astrological deductions are not absolute or based on > > a perfect correlation between planetary configurations and > > traits/events. In fact there have been studies done where individuals > > were given a variety of readings, some based on their charts, others > > based on other charts and the acceptance of both groups did not turn > > out to be significantly different. People saw themselves in readings > > which were based on their chart as well as the ones that were random. > > Most people are far more complex and varied than any reading they ar > > given based on traits and tendencies, so there is always something > > that shows up that fits. In fact this is the reason why people even > > fit with their sunsign readings which are based on a different > > zodiac. I think there is a name for this phenomenon -- Barnum effect, > > if I recall correctly. > > > > If you are really serious about it you should research the source of > > birthtime and ascertain what is the story there. > > > > Just a thought, > > > > RR > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > <pkaneria@> wrote: > > > > > > There was no issue of trust with my father. I have always believed > > in 'live and let live' policy and I just could not stand his > > dictatorial attitude and that why never had much communication with > > him. > > > > > > What I said about education and work is honest. Let me give > > couple of points of description of myself as I see them. I am lazy > > when it comes anything physical. I love to sleep, stay up late, get > > up late on my schedule and take afternoon naps. Always looking for > > short cuts. But I love solving problems that require use of brains. > > For example I collected data on horse racing for about 20 yrs trying > > to figure out a system to make a killing. I must have spent may be > > 10,000 hrs doing that. Then I gave it up completely and suddenly. > > When I am not writing or reading my emails, I am either reading books > > on astrology or hypnotism or something like that or I am figuring > > out 'Sudoku' puzzles of evil category (hardest). I am quite extemist > > in the sense that either I like something very much or I don't like > > it at all. There is no middle ground. If I do something I will do it > > intensively and with singular focus. I absolutely do not like > > confrontation. Therefore most of the time instead > > > of arguing even when I am right, I will just agree to avoid > > confrontation. That does not mean I have really agreed. My opinions > > hardly ever change. I am obstinate that way. I am very adaptable, can > > put up with things that I don't like for long time if I need to. I am > > self-reliant, adaptable, independent and very confident. I was very > > ambitious when I started working but not anymore. I have knowledge > > of many subjects but always superficial. Oh, one other thing I am not > > a good student in the sense that I always question anything taught to > > me. May be that is why I haven't learned anything in depth. > > > > > > Why am I telling you all this? May be because it might get you > > interested in looking at my chart and making a prediction that will > > come true in near future. > > > > > > Yes I have doubts about my birthtime and wartime corrections. And > > that is why I was inquiring about the application of divisional > > charts the other day. I am not entirely convinced about astrology and > > all the rules written in so many books because many are quite > > contradictory. Yet I want to believe that there must be a few people > > who have mastered this science enough to make a definitive > > prediction. With so many rules, like Pradeep said, any past event can > > be explained by one or the other rule that applies, because there are > > thousands of rules to choose from. > > > > > > One thing I have concluded is that a person who does not believe > > in astrology or has no interest in astrology, is a person happy in > > all aspects of life. > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > I > > > > > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > I was going with venus since it has been named as a karaka for > > mother > > > in certain contexts. > > > So there was a less than optimum trust with one of the parents! > > > > > > Regarding -- teachers I am glad that you had no problem. Was there > > > something with the type of education that you found yourself in or > > > the educational system, the entire experience that could connect > > with > > > the theme of suspicion, excessive caution, mistrust? > > > > > > Please do not think of me as judgmental but there does seem to be > > an > > > undercurrent of very strong vein of disbelief and suspicion and > > lack > > > of trust, if you are being perfectly honest here! > > > > > > You Sir do not even trust your own birthdata, the very source of > > your > > > astrological being! This is not meaningless! Obviously you are not > > > all that laid-back and lazy and easy-going as you tried to portray > > > yourself or perhaps view yourself as ;-) > > > > > > I looked up Doris Chase Doane's Time Changes in the World (predates > > > my computers and software and it states: > > > DST (same as WT) observed 1942-sep-01 to 1945-oct-15 except: > > > Bengal province (specific dates given) > > > Assam province (sp dates) > > > Bihar province (sp dates) > > > > > > Gujrat is not mentioned! > > > > > > This is not definitive but seems like you would have to do some > > more > > > research and find out what was really being followed in Dohraji at > > > the time of your birth! > > > > > > Suspicion - even manageable paranoia - disbelief is not all that > > bad, > > > trust me! The only reason we are still not in some cave, eating > > roots > > > and insects is because we did not trust status quo! We decided to > > > crawl out of the caves!! > > > > > > Please seek enlightenment and while you are at it, searching your > > > astrological roots, enlighten and educate us! > > > > > > I say that with all sincerity!! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected RRji, > > > > > > > > Honest answer is no. I never got along with my father but my > > > relationship with my mother has been very good throughtout. As far > > as > > > my teachers, excellent relationship and as a matter of fact I was a > > > favorite student wherever I studied, to the extent that during my > > > master's program (US), my professor came to me during the final > > exam > > > of 'Mass Transfer' and told me to leave because he thought I knew > > the > > > subject so well that I need not give the exam. It was one of the > > > greatest honor a student can get. Similarly, wherever I worked, my > > > managers were actually my protectors and promoters. To summarize, I > > > must have tremendous blessing of Guru because I always got along > > with > > > elders, teachers, bosses and still do. > > > > > > > > I really do not understand my horoscope. All the malefic planets > > > seem to act very much in my favor. I can not figure out really who > > is > > > malefic for me. By the way I have been diligently trying to rectify > > > my birthtime and it looks like 22:00:40.934 seem to work. This new > > > time does not change my rasi chart but navamsa lagna changes to > > > Gemini making my lagna vargottam. Also it makes Rahu and Ketu > > > vargottam. > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > crystal pages wrote: > > > > How intersting! I see that someone else has responded to the rahu > > > in > > > > 1 or 2 issue so I will save bandwidth! > > > > > > > > Just curious was there element of mistrust or suspicion between > > you > > > > and your parents, perhaps mother or an auntie at some point in > > > life? > > > > Also with teachers or educational system perhaps? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected RRji, > > > > > > > > > > I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in > > > > Mithuna Lagna together with Shani. > > > > > > > > > > Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly > > always - > > > > - it makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does > > not > > > > apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, > > lazy > > > > and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone > > until > > > > proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting > > > nature, > > > > I have lost a fortune via investments in projects of friends and > > > > family and stock market. Again this may be an example of how > > > looking > > > > at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion. > > > > > > > > > > My birth data is > > > > > DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 > > > > (Dhoraji, India) > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayamalur wrote: > > > > > Dear sir > > > > > > > > > > I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. > > > Infact > > > > i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna. > > > > > > > > > > Can you analyse my horoscope pls > > > > > > > > > > vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female) > > > > > > > > > > I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as > > > The > > > > latter would > > > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up > > > > losing a > > > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and > > loved > > > > ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of > > > mine > > > > to my family sir > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce > > > the > > > > ill effect of it > > > > > > > > > > eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply > > > > > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > > > > > vijaya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > crystal pages > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM > > > > > Re: Rahu in Lagna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Milind, > > > > > > > > > > Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating? > > > > > Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding > > > > mantras? > > > > > Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get > > > > fixed > > > > > (assuming that it is broken in the first place?). > > > > > > > > > > Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes > > the > > > > native > > > > > very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that > > > the > > > > > individuals do not get duped easily, at least not > > > > materialistically, > > > > > but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their > > > > lifeplan > > > > > but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter > > > > would > > > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up > > > > losing a > > > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and > > loved > > > > ones. > > > > > > > > > > The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The > > characteristics > > > of > > > > > that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes > > > > offers > > > > > the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not > > > > always > > > > > need a mantra or gemstone etc. > > > > > > > > > > Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your > > > > data, I > > > > > could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are > > really > > > > > looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do > > > so > > > > and > > > > > someone will pick up the thread. > > > > > > > > > > It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed > > > box! > > > > In > > > > > the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad > > roles > > > > and > > > > > bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed > > > the > > > > > window of our mind! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "padhyemilind2002" > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello > > > > > > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever > > it > > > > is > > > > > > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun > > is > > > > > > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other > > > > planets > > > > > > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 > > > > degrees > > > > > > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, > > and > > > > hence > > > > > I > > > > > > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these > > > positions. > > > > Any > > > > > > ideas? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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