Rahu in Lagna WAR TIME used in India 1/7 2

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It was Sukarno and not Suharto. Father of Sukarno putri, has been

one of the Indonesian President.

 

With Naman to all Gurujan

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Pratap,

> it was Suharto, and see all the 4 have only made their

countires smaller, all broke apart, Henru laid the language

division apart from caste, trible to ruin Indian further.

> worse NAM failed in 62 HE wrote 2 letters to US to request an

air attack on china for their agression, where is NAM?

> he ridiculed Astrolgers who told him china will attack India

even 8 yrs before they did. even weeks behore too.

> India had an air force when our air chief wanted to attack he

efused, china did not have an air force then.

> he lost the war and said not a blade of grass grows in Aksai

chin, hy did he sacrifice so many soldeirs he cud have gifted it

away and made peace.

>

>

> he dumped US when they threw china out of UN for Invading Tibet,

yet Nehru pushedm them in, SOON china invaaded us too, then sided

with pak and worse oppose india IN unsc EXPANSION.

>

> NOW NEHRU parivar has the latest divide the OBC expansion,

just to flog Rahuls campaing into office. well if they had show

anyother leader in cong-i then we can say it is they are elected so

no prob every where only this dud goes, other stalwarts like sachin

Pilot, J Scindia, Milind get no exposure too talend lot. and none

can match Omar Abdullah a great patriot.

>

> Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria

wrote: Shri Prasant

Kumar ji,

>

> Apart from war time issue, I have the same opinion about Nehru

parivar as you do. Nehru dynasty kept India backward and we lost

about 50 years of progress. Everything Shri Jawaharlal Nehru did

after independence was to satisfy his egoistical needs. US would

not pay attention to him so he formed a group called Punchsheel of

non-aligned nations (Khrushchev from Russia, Tito from Yugoslavia,

Castro from Cuba, Nasser from Egypt, I can't recall the fifth one,

may be it was Suharto from Indonesia) and declared himself a leader

of the world. I strongly believe that if Nehru did not come to

power and had India aligned itself with US then, we would have been

a superpower by now and not in 2020..

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

> Pratap

> War time was used in India, N C Lahiris table of ascendants also

gives u that

> the famous secular cover up -Nehru's faith in Indian astrology

publically he denounced and ridiculed it

> privately wrote to Indira Gandhi while telling her what to do on

war time for Rajiv Gandhi's birth time as it hurts NEHRU PARIVAR

that if they showed they observe Hindu thinking his letters to her

except this is published this u can get in London's Museum only

>

> the astro goof of RAJIV's time was Kanya or Simha lagna only

Gayithri Devi of astrological magazine, raman's daughter did

publicly stay war time correction needed and told a public meeting

with eminent congress men around that RAJIv'S TIME IS OVER AND A

NEW ERA, leader will start soon rajiv died 2 months later. PVN RAO

CAME IN BROUGHT in economic reforms with man MOHAN singh and turned

around a nation misled by Nehru parivar, which even now is

happening.PVN had guts, vision.

>

> lets see WAR TIME factor for Indians please. one lapse can't

make him evil, for that matter Nehru family divided, divides India

all the time.

>

> Pratap Kaneria

> wrote: Hello Haizen,

>

> Can you please tell me which 2 programs you are using? I use

Jhora and Lahiri ayanamsa and Lagna is Mithuna. Actually it was

Vistiji who corrected my birthtime to 20:38 from 20:40. But that

time fails the Kunda rule.

>

> Yes. My birthtime was in wartime and there was a wartime

adjustment. Howerer per Astro.com site (very reputable and a great

site), they make a comment for my birthdate that wartime time

adjustment was followed only in Europe and not in India. Still some

other Indian software I used in past were applying wartime

adjustment. I am really not sure what is the case.

>

> Based on my physical and mental characteristics as described by

several different authors, there is a lingering doubt in my mind

that Taurus lagna applies to me much better than Gemini.

>

> Because of all these, I have decided to learn birth time

rectification and figure out my birth time once and for all,

because after all without a precise birth time most of the readings

of chart can not be relied upon with confidence. I would like to

use some methods which are deterministic and not subjective. I have

found two such methods so far.

>

> 1. Chandulal Patel in his book 'Navamsa in Astrology' page 144

and 145 refer to "Prasna Marga Chap V verse 8" and explains a

method which involves multiplying the Lagna-longitude and Moon-

longitude by 81 and then few more steps to come up a derived

longitude which should be idential for both Lagna and Moon if the

birth time is correct. Using this method and a lots of trial and

error (i.e check horoscope using every minute within Gemini lagna

and do the calculations), I came up a birth time of 22:00:40.934

which gives a lagna of Gemini 29-50-8.55.

>

> 2. Then I read up on Kunda method. There is an excellent article

on the web by Shri Visti Larsen on birth time rectification by

Kunda method. Essence of the Kunda method is that Lagna rasi of D-

81 chart must be same as the Lagna, 5th, 7th or 9th rasi in the D-1

chart. The time I mentioned above is verified with the Kunda method.

>

> I am still not convinced so I am going to look for some more

confirmations by some other methods. Please recommend more methods

if you know of them.

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> haizen wrote:

> Hello Pratap,

>

> I have been following this interesting thread and

> thought I would calculate your chart for myself.

> I've done so on two separate programs and come

> up with *Vrishaba* as your ascendant, not Mithuna.

> This places Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd and 8th--financial

> houses--and 8L Jupiter at zero degrees in the 5H of

> investment losses. Vrishaba would indicate your "very

> easy going, lazy and always trusting" nature, rather than

> Rahu and Shani. I do not see you as having a Mithuna lagna.

> Please double check for daylight savings or war time

> because I believe your chart is likely off by an hour and

> giving you the wrong ascendant. Just one astrologer's

> opinion, of course.

>

> Sincerely, Haizen Paige

>

> PS. Rahu on the cusp of the 2nd house under Rahu dasha

> would explain some of your major financial losses.

>

> , Pratap Kaneria

> wrote:

> >

> > Respected RRji,

> >

> > I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in

Mithuna Lagna together

> with Shani.

> >

> > Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly

always -- it makes the native

> very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to me. So I

must be the exception. I am

> very easy going, lazy and always trusting. Actually I like to

trust almost everyone until

> proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting

nature, I have lost a fortune via

> investments in projects of friends and family and stock market.

Again this may be an

> example of how looking at just one planet is not adequate to

come to a conclusion.

> >

> > My birth data is

> > DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44

(Dhoraji, India)

> >

> > With Regards,

> >

> > Pratap

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vijayamalur wrote:

> > Dear sir

> >

> > I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna.

Infact i also have rahu in

> lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> >

> > Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> >

> > vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> >

> > I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna

as The latter would

> > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved ones. As it is i dont want

> to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my family sir

> >

> > I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce

the ill effect of it

> >

> > eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> >

> > best regards

> >

> > vijaya

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > crystal pages

> >

> > Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> > Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >

> >

> > Dear Milind,

> >

> > Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> > Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding

mantras?

> > Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get

fixed

> > (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> >

> > Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes

the native

> > very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is

that the

> > individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

materialistically,

> > but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their

lifeplan

> > but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The

latter would

> > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved ones.

> >

> > The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The

characteristics of

> > that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes

offers

> > the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not

always

> > need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> >

> > Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal

your data, I

> > could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are

really

> > looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to

do so and

> > someone will pick up the thread.

> >

> > It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed

box! In

> > the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad

roles and

> > bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not

closed the

> > window of our mind!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "padhyemilind2002"

> >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello

> > > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever

it is

> > > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun

is

> > > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other

planets

> > > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at

29.53 degrees

> > > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position,

and hence

> > I

> > > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these

positions. Any

> > > ideas?

> > > Thanks

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Varun,

Thanks. You are right. I remembered it after I wrote. Indonesia is another interesting story. Sukarno is really Sukarna in sanskrit.

Pratap

 

varun_trvd <varun_trvd (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Dear Friends,

 

It was Sukarno and not Suharto. Father of Sukarno putri, has been

one of the Indonesian President.

 

With Naman to all Gurujan

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

wrote:

>

> Pratap,

> it was Suharto, and see all the 4 have only made their

countires smaller, all broke apart, Henru laid the language

division apart from caste, trible to ruin Indian further.

> worse NAM failed in 62 HE wrote 2 letters to US to request an

air attack on china for their agression, where is NAM?

> he ridiculed Astrolgers who told him china will attack India

even 8 yrs before they did. even weeks behore too.

> India had an air force when our air chief wanted to attack he

efused, china did not have an air force then.

> he lost the war and said not a blade of grass grows in Aksai

chin, hy did he sacrifice so many soldeirs he cud have gifted it

away and made peace.

>

>

> he dumped US when they threw china out of UN for Invading Tibet,

yet Nehru pushedm them in, SOON china invaaded us too, then sided

with pak and worse oppose india IN unsc EXPANSION.

>

> NOW NEHRU parivar has the latest divide the OBC expansion,

just to flog Rahuls campaing into office. well if they had show

anyother leader in cong-i then we can say it is they are elected so

no prob every where only this dud goes, other stalwarts like sachin

Pilot, J Scindia, Milind get no exposure too talend lot. and none

can match Omar Abdullah a great patriot.

>

> Pratap Kaneria

 

wrote: Shri Prasant

Kumar ji,

>

> Apart from war time issue, I have the same opinion about Nehru

parivar as you do. Nehru dynasty kept India backward and we lost

about 50 years of progress. Everything Shri Jawaharlal Nehru did

after independence was to satisfy his egoistical needs. US would

not pay attention to him so he formed a group called Punchsheel of

non-aligned nations (Khrushchev from Russia, Tito from Yugoslavia,

Castro from Cuba, Nasser from Egypt, I can't recall the fifth one,

may be it was Suharto from Indonesia) and declared himself a leader

of the world. I strongly believe that if Nehru did not come to

power and had India aligned itself with US then, we would have been

a superpower by now and not in 2020..

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> Prashant Kumar G B wrote:

> Pratap

> War time was used in India, N C Lahiris table of ascendants also

gives u that

> the famous secular cover up -Nehru's faith in Indian astrology

publically he denounced and ridiculed it

> privately wrote to Indira Gandhi while telling her what to do on

war time for Rajiv Gandhi's birth time as it hurts NEHRU PARIVAR

that if they showed they observe Hindu thinking his letters to her

except this is published this u can get in London's Museum only

>

> the astro goof of RAJIV's time was Kanya or Simha lagna only

Gayithri Devi of astrological magazine, raman's daughter did

publicly stay war time correction needed and told a public meeting

with eminent congress men around that RAJIv'S TIME IS OVER AND A

NEW ERA, leader will start soon rajiv died 2 months later. PVN RAO

CAME IN BROUGHT in economic reforms with man MOHAN singh and turned

around a nation misled by Nehru parivar, which even now is

happening.PVN had guts, vision.

>

> lets see WAR TIME factor for Indians please. one lapse can't

make him evil, for that matter Nehru family divided, divides India

all the time.

>

> Pratap Kaneria

> wrote: Hello Haizen,

>

> Can you please tell me which 2 programs you are using? I use

Jhora and Lahiri ayanamsa and Lagna is Mithuna. Actually it was

Vistiji who corrected my birthtime to 20:38 from 20:40. But that

time fails the Kunda rule.

>

> Yes. My birthtime was in wartime and there was a wartime

adjustment. Howerer per Astro.com site (very reputable and a great

site), they make a comment for my birthdate that wartime time

adjustment was followed only in Europe and not in India. Still some

other Indian software I used in past were applying wartime

adjustment. I am really not sure what is the case.

>

> Based on my physical and mental characteristics as described by

several different authors, there is a lingering doubt in my mind

that Taurus lagna applies to me much better than Gemini.

>

> Because of all these, I have decided to learn birth time

rectification and figure out my birth time once and for all,

because after all without a precise birth time most of the readings

of chart can not be relied upon with confidence. I would like to

use some methods which are deterministic and not subjective. I have

found two such methods so far.

>

> 1. Chandulal Patel in his book 'Navamsa in Astrology' page 144

and 145 refer to "Prasna Marga Chap V verse 8" and explains a

method which involves multiplying the Lagna-longitude and Moon-

longitude by 81 and then few more steps to come up a derived

longitude which should be idential for both Lagna and Moon if the

birth time is correct. Using this method and a lots of trial and

error (i.e check horoscope using every minute within Gemini lagna

and do the calculations), I came up a birth time of 22:00:40.934

which gives a lagna of Gemini 29-50-8.55.

>

> 2. Then I read up on Kunda method. There is an excellent article

on the web by Shri Visti Larsen on birth time rectification by

Kunda method. Essence of the Kunda method is that Lagna rasi of D-

81 chart must be same as the Lagna, 5th, 7th or 9th rasi in the D-1

chart. The time I mentioned above is verified with the Kunda method.

>

> I am still not convinced so I am going to look for some more

confirmations by some other methods. Please recommend more methods

if you know of them.

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> haizen wrote:

> Hello Pratap,

>

> I have been following this interesting thread and

> thought I would calculate your chart for myself.

> I've done so on two separate programs and come

> up with *Vrishaba* as your ascendant, not Mithuna.

> This places Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd and 8th--financial

> houses--and 8L Jupiter at zero degrees in the 5H of

> investment losses. Vrishaba would indicate your "very

> easy going, lazy and always trusting" nature, rather than

> Rahu and Shani. I do not see you as having a Mithuna lagna.

> Please double check for daylight savings or war time

> because I believe your chart is likely off by an hour and

> giving you the wrong ascendant. Just one astrologer's

> opinion, of course.

>

> Sincerely, Haizen Paige

>

> PS. Rahu on the cusp of the 2nd house under Rahu dasha

> would explain some of your major financial losses.

>

> , Pratap Kaneria

> wrote:

> >

> > Respected RRji,

> >

> > I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in

Mithuna Lagna together

> with Shani.

> >

> > Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly

always -- it makes the native

> very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to me. So I

must be the exception. I am

> very easy going, lazy and always trusting. Actually I like to

trust almost everyone until

> proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting

nature, I have lost a fortune via

> investments in projects of friends and family and stock market.

Again this may be an

> example of how looking at just one planet is not adequate to

come to a conclusion.

> >

> > My birth data is

> > DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44

(Dhoraji, India)

> >

> > With Regards,

> >

> > Pratap

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vijayamalur wrote:

> > Dear sir

> >

> > I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna.

Infact i also have rahu in

> lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> >

> > Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> >

> > vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> >

> > I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna

as The latter would

> > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved ones. As it is i dont want

> to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my family sir

> >

> > I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce

the ill effect of it

> >

> > eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> >

> > best regards

> >

> > vijaya

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > crystal pages

> >

> > Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> > Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >

> >

> > Dear Milind,

> >

> > Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> > Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding

mantras?

> > Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get

fixed

> > (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> >

> > Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes

the native

> > very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is

that the

> > individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

materialistically,

> > but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their

lifeplan

> > but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The

latter would

> > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved ones.

> >

> > The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The

characteristics of

> > that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes

offers

> > the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not

always

> > need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> >

> > Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal

your data, I

> > could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are

really

> > looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to

do so and

> > someone will pick up the thread.

> >

> > It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed

box! In

> > the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad

roles and

> > bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not

closed the

> > window of our mind!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "padhyemilind2002"

> >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello

> > > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever

it is

> > > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun

is

> > > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other

planets

> > > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at

29.53 degrees

> > > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position,

and hence

> > I

> > > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these

positions. Any

> > > ideas?

> > > Thanks

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >