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Dear Ashutoshji,

 

Given the confusion around birthtimes and rectifications and reliable

sources giving their documentations regarding Pratapji's stated

birthtimes and the 1 hour quandry -- I would not even address that

further. I don't know his verity enough to make a call. Call me

cautious or hesitant or whatever!

 

I am glad that you read the little clarification about sidereal and

tropical zodiac. I know you are a busy person and I am just thankful

that you found time to read it.

 

As to the 'trivial' sounding threads and responses by the less

experienced -- having raised a few babies and watched a few others

grow and seeing what they turned out to be (no guarantees for future-

that-is-forever) all I can say to God is: Thank YOU for the

opportunity! Please make me do it all over again! The same sentiments

towards readings I was allowed to give -- despite my crusty,

curmudgeonishly demeanour at times towards them -- my reading

children)

 

I too-- and have stated it here and elsewhere -- do not consider Rahu

as bad, just as I do not consider Guru as good! Or Saturn as bad.

Easy for me to claim, since I have dated statements and articles

written earlier. I say this not from a position of arrogance as some

may very quickly tend to assume since they are so conditioned -- but

just by personal experience and reflection.

 

All that is good or bad or in between, for us humans is here and now!

And the closest planet is way far away from any of it all!

 

Our astrological signature is like our family name or surname!

 

The Ancestor is long gone, but somehow we carry his signature, his

genes and really I should have included the Great grand mother too,

since there were extra genes that came from her, all mothers actually

as the biologists amongst us know as a physical reality between

generations!

 

Human life and human experience as we have inherited it today and

live it is complex and we can hide our heads in the sand of

yesteryears but sand, old or new, is not good for eyes and can make

us blind!

 

RR

 

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

<astrologerashutosh wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ji,

>

> His personality details already were fitting

gemini ascendent. I simply had to find the fitting navamsa for him.

>

> Yes, I have gone through the article you had posted on

tropical and sidereal zodiacs. But, I desisted from adding anything

to it just because that thread was getting too stretched.

>

> Here, on this group, over-stretching of threads has become

a norm, which gets irritating after a time. The conclusions which can

be reached by common sense are never looked into and much time and

energy is wasted on giving importance to trivial questions by less

experienced astrology enthusiasts.

>

> Therefore, I have been trying to limit myself just to

answering queries since past few months, jumping in only for short

durations in any discussions.

>

> All rahu needs is attention. By stretching this thread on

rahu, we are giving it just that. An astrologer should never forget

the underlying eternal fact in any situation. I am also adding my

last words on this thread, just to give my observations about rahu to

the group members.

>

> Rahu is not as bad as it is commonly assumed to be. Rahu in

lagna, makes one self centered, but not selfish. Such a person is

less critical of others and tends to find faults with oneself and

tries to constantly improve upon them, but fails.

>

> His adjusting nature makes him at home in all situations.

Most of them have happy marriages, if seventh lord is normal, and

have very efficient spouses.

>

> Rahu in lagna also gives great intuitive abilites to the

native, but his intuition works with others only, not about self.

Such a person has a very practical view about world and is often a

good philosopher too.

>

> Calm and placid, not easily provoked, can take all

criticism readily. For him, even the one criticising him is also

paying him some attention. So, anything is welcome as long as it is

directed at him.

>

> Though lazy and comfort loving, men with rahu in lagna have

also been found to be good at physical rigours like body building,

wrestling, boxing and athletic events like javelin throw, discuss

throw, etc.

>

>

>

> Discussions are good for enriching knowledge, but only if

they enrich knowledge.

>

> It is very difficult for knowledgeable ones to try to not

to argue. But, the wise ones always try to end the argument.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

> [The services of this professional astrologer are free on this

group but off-group consultations are chargeable]

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Saturday, 01 July, 2006 11:00

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> Namastey Ashutoshji,

>

> Long time!

>

> Yes he does, if Wartime was not in use in his birthplace as he

> maintains and other references are wrong. Or if the time he

presented

> was already corrected for WT, since he did post it as IST. He

also

> indicated that his time was rectified by some individual and also

by

> himself. And the time he gave after rectification was different

from

> what he posted originally -- all very confusing.

>

> On a different matter, did you get a chance to read the article I

> posted following an early thread, about sidereal and tropical

zodiacs

> and facts surrounding those? Please give the article a browse and

let

> me know what you think about that :-)

>

> RR

>

> , "astrologerashutosh"

> <astrologerashutosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rohini Ji,

> >

> > Sorry to jump in.

> >

> > But, according to my limited experiences with astrology,

> Pratap Ji has a gemini ascendent, but aquarius navamsa.

> >

> > Just gave my unworthy two cents.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Ashutosh

> >

> >

> >

> > [The services of this professional astrologer are free on this

> group but off-group consultations are chargeable]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > crystal pages

> >

> > Saturday, 01 July, 2006 10:30

> > Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >

> >

> > you remind me so strikingly of the several significant taurus

> lagnas

> > that I have been blessed to meet in my life :-)

> >

> > The first one that I so fondly remember introduced me to Raman

> > Ayanamsha!

> >

> > They were/are all very beautiful people!! Every single one I

met

> in

> > one form or another!!!

> >

> > Why change anything?

> >

> > Hope you find your peace ...

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , Pratap Kaneria

> > <pkaneria@> wrote:

> > >

> > > There was no issue of trust with my father. I have always

> believed

> > in 'live and let live' policy and I just could not stand his

> > dictatorial attitude and that why never had much communication

> with

> > him.

> > >

> > > What I said about education and work is honest. Let me give

> > couple of points of description of myself as I see them. I am

> lazy

> > when it comes anything physical. I love to sleep, stay up late,

> get

> > up late on my schedule and take afternoon naps. Always looking

> for

> > short cuts. But I love solving problems that require use of

> brains.

> > For example I collected data on horse racing for about 20 yrs

> trying

> > to figure out a system to make a killing. I must have spent may

> be

> > 10,000 hrs doing that. Then I gave it up completely and

suddenly.

> > When I am not writing or reading my emails, I am either reading

> books

> > on astrology or hypnotism or something like that or I am

figuring

> > out 'Sudoku' puzzles of evil category (hardest). I am quite

> extemist

> > in the sense that either I like something very much or I don't

> like

> > it at all. There is no middle ground. If I do something I will

do

> it

> > intensively and with singular focus. I absolutely do not like

> > confrontation. Therefore most of the time instead

> > > of arguing even when I am right, I will just agree to avoid

> > confrontation. That does not mean I have really agreed. My

> opinions

> > hardly ever change. I am obstinate that way. I am very

adaptable,

> can

> > put up with things that I don't like for long time if I need

to.

> I am

> > self-reliant, adaptable, independent and very confident. I was

> very

> > ambitious when I started working but not anymore. I have

> knowledge

> > of many subjects but always superficial. Oh, one other thing I

am

> not

> > a good student in the sense that I always question anything

> taught to

> > me. May be that is why I haven't learned anything in depth.

> > >

> > > Why am I telling you all this? May be because it might get

you

> > interested in looking at my chart and making a prediction that

> will

> > come true in near future.

> > >

> > > Yes I have doubts about my birthtime and wartime corrections.

> And

> > that is why I was inquiring about the application of divisional

> > charts the other day. I am not entirely convinced about

astrology

> and

> > all the rules written in so many books because many are quite

> > contradictory. Yet I want to believe that there must be a few

> people

> > who have mastered this science enough to make a definitive

> > prediction. With so many rules, like Pradeep said, any past

event

> can

> > be explained by one or the other rule that applies, because

there

> are

> > thousands of rules to choose from.

> > >

> > > One thing I have concluded is that a person who does not

> believe

> > in astrology or has no interest in astrology, is a person happy

> in

> > all aspects of life.

> > >

> > > Pratap

> > >

> > > I

> > >

> > > crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > I was going with venus since it has been named as a karaka

for

> > mother

> > > in certain contexts.

> > > So there was a less than optimum trust with one of the

parents!

> > >

> > > Regarding -- teachers I am glad that you had no problem. Was

> there

> > > something with the type of education that you found yourself

in

> or

> > > the educational system, the entire experience that could

> connect

> > with

> > > the theme of suspicion, excessive caution, mistrust?

> > >

> > > Please do not think of me as judgmental but there does seem

to

> be

> > an

> > > undercurrent of very strong vein of disbelief and suspicion

and

> > lack

> > > of trust, if you are being perfectly honest here!

> > >

> > > You Sir do not even trust your own birthdata, the very source

> of

> > your

> > > astrological being! This is not meaningless! Obviously you

are

> not

> > > all that laid-back and lazy and easy-going as you tried to

> portray

> > > yourself or perhaps view yourself as ;-)

> > >

> > > I looked up Doris Chase Doane's Time Changes in the World

> (predates

> > > my computers and software and it states:

> > > DST (same as WT) observed 1942-sep-01 to 1945-oct-15 except:

> > > Bengal province (specific dates given)

> > > Assam province (sp dates)

> > > Bihar province (sp dates)

> > >

> > > Gujrat is not mentioned!

> > >

> > > This is not definitive but seems like you would have to do

some

> > more

> > > research and find out what was really being followed in

Dohraji

> at

> > > the time of your birth!

> > >

> > > Suspicion - even manageable paranoia - disbelief is not all

> that

> > bad,

> > > trust me! The only reason we are still not in some cave,

eating

> > roots

> > > and insects is because we did not trust status quo! We

decided

> to

> > > crawl out of the caves!!

> > >

> > > Please seek enlightenment and while you are at it, searching

> your

> > > astrological roots, enlighten and educate us!

> > >

> > > I say that with all sincerity!!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , Pratap Kaneria

> > >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected RRji,

> > > >

> > > > Honest answer is no. I never got along with my father but

my

> > > relationship with my mother has been very good throughtout.

As

> far

> > as

> > > my teachers, excellent relationship and as a matter of fact I

> was a

> > > favorite student wherever I studied, to the extent that

during

> my

> > > master's program (US), my professor came to me during the

final

> > exam

> > > of 'Mass Transfer' and told me to leave because he thought I

> knew

> > the

> > > subject so well that I need not give the exam. It was one of

> the

> > > greatest honor a student can get. Similarly, wherever I

worked,

> my

> > > managers were actually my protectors and promoters. To

> summarize, I

> > > must have tremendous blessing of Guru because I always got

> along

> > with

> > > elders, teachers, bosses and still do.

> > > >

> > > > I really do not understand my horoscope. All the malefic

> planets

> > > seem to act very much in my favor. I can not figure out

really

> who

> > is

> > > malefic for me. By the way I have been diligently trying to

> rectify

> > > my birthtime and it looks like 22:00:40.934 seem to work.

This

> new

> > > time does not change my rasi chart but navamsa lagna changes

to

> > > Gemini making my lagna vargottam. Also it makes Rahu and Ketu

> > > vargottam.

> > > >

> > > > With Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Pratap

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > crystal pages wrote:

> > > > How intersting! I see that someone else has responded to

the

> rahu

> > > in

> > > > 1 or 2 issue so I will save bandwidth!

> > > >

> > > > Just curious was there element of mistrust or suspicion

> between

> > you

> > > > and your parents, perhaps mother or an auntie at some point

> in

> > > life?

> > > > Also with teachers or educational system perhaps?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , Pratap Kaneria

> > > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected RRji,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am reading this thread with interest because I have

Rahu

> in

> > > > Mithuna Lagna together with Shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly

> > always -

> > > > - it makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.'

> does

> > not

> > > > apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy

> going,

> > lazy

> > > > and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost

everyone

> > until

> > > > proven guilty. It is true though that because of my

trusting

> > > nature,

> > > > I have lost a fortune via investments in projects of

friends

> and

> > > > family and stock market. Again this may be an example of

how

> > > looking

> > > > at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

> > > > >

> > > > > My birth data is

> > > > > DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27,

> 21N44

> > > > (Dhoraji, India)

> > > > >

> > > > > With Regards,

> > > > >

> > > > > Pratap

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vijayamalur wrote:

> > > > > Dear sir

> > > > >

> > > > > I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in

> lagna.

> > > Infact

> > > > i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> > > > >

> > > > > vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> > > > >

> > > > > I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in

> lagna as

> > > The

> > > > latter would

> > > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity

ends

> up

> > > > losing a

> > > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives

and

> > loved

> > > > ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of

negativitiy

> of

> > > mine

> > > > to my family sir

> > > > >

> > > > > I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or

> reduce

> > > the

> > > > ill effect of it

> > > > >

> > > > > eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> > > > >

> > > > > best regards

> > > > >

> > > > > vijaya

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > crystal pages

> > > > >

> > > > > Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> > > > > Re: Rahu in Lagna

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Milind,

> > > > >

> > > > > Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is

> creating?

> > > > > Please describe for my benefit what your belief is

> regarding

> > > > mantras?

> > > > > Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu

would

> get

> > > > fixed

> > > > > (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> > > > >

> > > > > Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

> makes

> > the

> > > > native

> > > > > very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this

is

> that

> > > the

> > > > > individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

> > > > materialistically,

> > > > > but over the years they tend to lose things that were in

> their

> > > > lifeplan

> > > > > but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The

> latter

> > > > would

> > > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity

ends

> up

> > > > losing a

> > > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives

and

> > loved

> > > > ones.

> > > > >

> > > > > The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The

> > characteristics

> > > of

> > > > > that planet do not get expressed naturally and that

> sometimes

> > > > offers

> > > > > the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and

may

> not

> > > > always

> > > > > need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since you asked a very generic question and did not

reveal

> your

> > > > data, I

> > > > > could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are

> > really

> > > > > looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want

> to do

> > > so

> > > > and

> > > > > someone will pick up the thread.

> > > > >

> > > > > It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a

> fixed

> > > box!

> > > > In

> > > > > the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play

bad

> > roles

> > > > and

> > > > > bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not

> closed

> > > the

> > > > > window of our mind!

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > >

, "padhyemilind2002"

> > > > >

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello

> > > > > > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun,

> wherever

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.?

Since

> Sun

> > is

> > > > > > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity

> other

> > > > planets

> > > > > > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at

> 29.53

> > > > degrees

> > > > > > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd

> position,

> > and

> > > > hence

> > > > > I

> > > > > > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these

> > > positions.

> > > > Any

> > > > > > ideas?

> > > > > > Thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Shri Ashutoshji,

Thanks for adding your comments. I have added my feedback below on your assessment of Rahu which is based on my own peception of myself. I hope you do not see this as my way of streching the thread. But I thought you would appreciate my feedback as 'Rahu in Lagna' native to confirm your assessment.

 

With Regards,

Pratap

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote:

Dear Rohini Ji,

 

His personality details already were fitting gemini ascendent. I simply had to find the fitting navamsa for him.

 

Yes, I have gone through the article you had posted on tropical and sidereal zodiacs. But, I desisted from adding anything to it just because that thread was getting too stretched.

 

Here, on this group, over-stretching of threads has become a norm, which gets irritating after a time. The conclusions which can be reached by common sense are never looked into and much time and energy is wasted on giving importance to trivial questions by less experienced astrology enthusiasts.

 

Therefore, I have been trying to limit myself just to answering queries since past few months, jumping in only for short durations in any discussions.

 

All rahu needs is attention. (True but it is debatable because who does not like attention? Philosophers and professional writers writing in this forum will stop doing so if people stop responding to them). By stretching this thread on rahu, we are giving it just that. An astrologer should never forget the underlying eternal fact in any situation. I am also adding my last words on this thread, just to give my observations about rahu to the group members.

 

Rahu is not as bad as it is commonly assumed to be. Rahu in lagna, makes one self centered, but not selfish. Such a person is less critical of others and tends to find faults with oneself and tries to constantly improve upon them, but fails. (Very true)

 

His adjusting nature makes him at home in all situations.(very true). Most of them have happy marriages, if seventh lord is normal, and have very efficient spouses.

 

Rahu in lagna also gives great intuitive abilites to the native, but his intuition works with others only, not about self. Such a person has a very practical view about world and is often a good philosopher too. (Very true).

 

Calm and placid, not easily provoked, can take all criticism readily. For him, even the one criticising him is also paying him some attention. So, anything is welcome as long as it is directed at him. (very true. Actually I am the first one to admit my shortcomings before someone accuse me of them. In a way that may be my way of disarming the accuser).

 

Though lazy and comfort loving, men with rahu in lagna have also been found to be good at physical rigours like body building, wrestling, boxing and athletic events like javelin throw, discuss throw, etc. (Very true. I am always into improving myself physically and mentally. Recently I lost 25 lbs by serious fasting).

 

Discussions are good for enriching knowledge, but only if they enrich knowledge.

 

It is very difficult for knowledgeable ones to try to not to argue. But, the wise ones always try to end the argument.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

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Saturday, 01 July, 2006 11:00

Re: Rahu in Lagna

 

 

Namastey Ashutoshji,

 

Long time!

 

Yes he does, if Wartime was not in use in his birthplace as he

maintains and other references are wrong. Or if the time he presented

was already corrected for WT, since he did post it as IST. He also

indicated that his time was rectified by some individual and also by

himself. And the time he gave after rectification was different from

what he posted originally -- all very confusing.

 

On a different matter, did you get a chance to read the article I

posted following an early thread, about sidereal and tropical zodiacs

and facts surrounding those? Please give the article a browse and let

me know what you think about that :-)

 

RR

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ji,

>

> Sorry to jump in.

>

> But, according to my limited experiences with astrology,

Pratap Ji has a gemini ascendent, but aquarius navamsa.

>

> Just gave my unworthy two cents.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

>

> [The services of this professional astrologer are free on this

group but off-group consultations are chargeable]

>

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Saturday, 01 July, 2006 10:30

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> you remind me so strikingly of the several significant taurus

lagnas

> that I have been blessed to meet in my life :-)

>

> The first one that I so fondly remember introduced me to Raman

> Ayanamsha!

>

> They were/are all very beautiful people!! Every single one I met

in

> one form or another!!!

>

> Why change anything?

>

> Hope you find your peace ...

>

> RR

>

> , Pratap Kaneria

>

wrote:

> >

> > There was no issue of trust with my father. I have always

believed

> in 'live and let live' policy and I just could not stand his

> dictatorial attitude and that why never had much communication

with

> him.

> >

> > What I said about education and work is honest. Let me give

> couple of points of description of myself as I see them. I am

lazy

> when it comes anything physical. I love to sleep, stay up late,

get

> up late on my schedule and take afternoon naps. Always looking

for

> short cuts. But I love solving problems that require use of

brains.

> For example I collected data on horse racing for about 20 yrs

trying

> to figure out a system to make a killing. I must have spent may

be

> 10,000 hrs doing that. Then I gave it up completely and suddenly.

> When I am not writing or reading my emails, I am either reading

books

> on astrology or hypnotism or something like that or I am figuring

> out 'Sudoku' puzzles of evil category (hardest). I am quite

extemist

> in the sense that either I like something very much or I don't

like

> it at all. There is no middle ground. If I do something I will do

it

> intensively and with singular focus. I absolutely do not like

> confrontation. Therefore most of the time instead

> > of arguing even when I am right, I will just agree to avoid

> confrontation. That does not mean I have really agreed. My

opinions

> hardly ever change. I am obstinate that way. I am very adaptable,

can

> put up with things that I don't like for long time if I need to.

I am

> self-reliant, adaptable, independent and very confident. I was

very

> ambitious when I started working but not anymore. I have

knowledge

> of many subjects but always superficial. Oh, one other thing I am

not

> a good student in the sense that I always question anything

taught to

> me. May be that is why I haven't learned anything in depth.

> >

> > Why am I telling you all this? May be because it might get you

> interested in looking at my chart and making a prediction that

will

> come true in near future.

> >

> > Yes I have doubts about my birthtime and wartime corrections.

And

> that is why I was inquiring about the application of divisional

> charts the other day. I am not entirely convinced about astrology

and

> all the rules written in so many books because many are quite

> contradictory. Yet I want to believe that there must be a few

people

> who have mastered this science enough to make a definitive

> prediction. With so many rules, like Pradeep said, any past event

can

> be explained by one or the other rule that applies, because there

are

> thousands of rules to choose from.

> >

> > One thing I have concluded is that a person who does not

believe

> in astrology or has no interest in astrology, is a person happy

in

> all aspects of life.

> >

> > Pratap

> >

> > I

> >

> > crystal pages wrote:

> > I was going with venus since it has been named as a karaka for

> mother

> > in certain contexts.

> > So there was a less than optimum trust with one of the parents!

> >

> > Regarding -- teachers I am glad that you had no problem. Was

there

> > something with the type of education that you found yourself in

or

> > the educational system, the entire experience that could

connect

> with

> > the theme of suspicion, excessive caution, mistrust?

> >

> > Please do not think of me as judgmental but there does seem to

be

> an

> > undercurrent of very strong vein of disbelief and suspicion and

> lack

> > of trust, if you are being perfectly honest here!

> >

> > You Sir do not even trust your own birthdata, the very source

of

> your

> > astrological being! This is not meaningless! Obviously you are

not

> > all that laid-back and lazy and easy-going as you tried to

portray

> > yourself or perhaps view yourself as ;-)

> >

> > I looked up Doris Chase Doane's Time Changes in the World

(predates

> > my computers and software and it states:

> > DST (same as WT) observed 1942-sep-01 to 1945-oct-15 except:

> > Bengal province (specific dates given)

> > Assam province (sp dates)

> > Bihar province (sp dates)

> >

> > Gujrat is not mentioned!

> >

> > This is not definitive but seems like you would have to do some

> more

> > research and find out what was really being followed in Dohraji

at

> > the time of your birth!

> >

> > Suspicion - even manageable paranoia - disbelief is not all

that

> bad,

> > trust me! The only reason we are still not in some cave, eating

> roots

> > and insects is because we did not trust status quo! We decided

to

> > crawl out of the caves!!

> >

> > Please seek enlightenment and while you are at it, searching

your

> > astrological roots, enlighten and educate us!

> >

> > I say that with all sincerity!!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , Pratap Kaneria

> >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected RRji,

> > >

> > > Honest answer is no. I never got along with my father but my

> > relationship with my mother has been very good throughtout. As

far

> as

> > my teachers, excellent relationship and as a matter of fact I

was a

> > favorite student wherever I studied, to the extent that during

my

> > master's program (US), my professor came to me during the final

> exam

> > of 'Mass Transfer' and told me to leave because he thought I

knew

> the

> > subject so well that I need not give the exam. It was one of

the

> > greatest honor a student can get. Similarly, wherever I worked,

my

> > managers were actually my protectors and promoters. To

summarize, I

> > must have tremendous blessing of Guru because I always got

along

> with

> > elders, teachers, bosses and still do.

> > >

> > > I really do not understand my horoscope. All the malefic

planets

> > seem to act very much in my favor. I can not figure out really

who

> is

> > malefic for me. By the way I have been diligently trying to

rectify

> > my birthtime and it looks like 22:00:40.934 seem to work. This

new

> > time does not change my rasi chart but navamsa lagna changes to

> > Gemini making my lagna vargottam. Also it makes Rahu and Ketu

> > vargottam.

> > >

> > > With Regards,

> > >

> > > Pratap

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > crystal pages wrote:

> > > How intersting! I see that someone else has responded to the

rahu

> > in

> > > 1 or 2 issue so I will save bandwidth!

> > >

> > > Just curious was there element of mistrust or suspicion

between

> you

> > > and your parents, perhaps mother or an auntie at some point

in

> > life?

> > > Also with teachers or educational system perhaps?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , Pratap Kaneria

> > >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected RRji,

> > > >

> > > > I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu

in

> > > Mithuna Lagna together with Shani.

> > > >

> > > > Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly

> always -

> > > - it makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.'

does

> not

> > > apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy

going,

> lazy

> > > and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone

> until

> > > proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting

> > nature,

> > > I have lost a fortune via investments in projects of friends

and

> > > family and stock market. Again this may be an example of how

> > looking

> > > at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

> > > >

> > > > My birth data is

> > > > DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27,

21N44

> > > (Dhoraji, India)

> > > >

> > > > With Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Pratap

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vijayamalur wrote:

> > > > Dear sir

> > > >

> > > > I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in

lagna.

> > Infact

> > > i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> > > >

> > > > Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> > > >

> > > > vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> > > >

> > > > I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in

lagna as

> > The

> > > latter would

> > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends

up

> > > losing a

> > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

> loved

> > > ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy

of

> > mine

> > > to my family sir

> > > >

> > > > I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or

reduce

> > the

> > > ill effect of it

> > > >

> > > > eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> > > >

> > > > best regards

> > > >

> > > > vijaya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > crystal pages

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> > > > Re: Rahu in Lagna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Milind,

> > > >

> > > > Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is

creating?

> > > > Please describe for my benefit what your belief is

regarding

> > > mantras?

> > > > Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would

get

> > > fixed

> > > > (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> > > >

> > > > Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

makes

> the

> > > native

> > > > very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is

that

> > the

> > > > individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

> > > materialistically,

> > > > but over the years they tend to lose things that were in

their

> > > lifeplan

> > > > but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The

latter

> > > would

> > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends

up

> > > losing a

> > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

> loved

> > > ones.

> > > >

> > > > The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The

> characteristics

> > of

> > > > that planet do not get expressed naturally and that

sometimes

> > > offers

> > > > the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may

not

> > > always

> > > > need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> > > >

> > > > Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal

your

> > > data, I

> > > > could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are

> really

> > > > looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want

to do

> > so

> > > and

> > > > someone will pick up the thread.

> > > >

> > > > It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a

fixed

> > box!

> > > In

> > > > the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad

> roles

> > > and

> > > > bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not

closed

> > the

> > > > window of our mind!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "padhyemilind2002"

> > > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello

> > > > > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun,

wherever

> it

> > > is

> > > > > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since

Sun

> is

> > > > > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity

other

> > > planets

> > > > > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at

29.53

> > > degrees

> > > > > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd

position,

> and

> > > hence

> > > > I

> > > > > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these

> > positions.

> > > Any

> > > > > ideas?

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Dear Pratap Ji,

 

Your feedback is very valuable. Thanks.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

 

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Pratap Kaneria

Saturday, 01 July, 2006 18:43

Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna-some additions

 

 

Shri Ashutoshji,

 

Thanks for adding your comments. I have added my feedback below on your assessment of Rahu which is based on my own peception of myself. I hope you do not see this as my way of streching the thread. But I thought you would appreciate my feedback as 'Rahu in Lagna' native to confirm your assessment.

 

With Regards,

 

Pratap

 

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote:

Dear Rohini Ji,

 

His personality details already were fitting gemini ascendent. I simply had to find the fitting navamsa for him.

 

Yes, I have gone through the article you had posted on tropical and sidereal zodiacs. But, I desisted from adding anything to it just because that thread was getting too stretched.

 

Here, on this group, over-stretching of threads has become a norm, which gets irritating after a time. The conclusions which can be reached by common sense are never looked into and much time and energy is wasted on giving importance to trivial questions by less experienced astrology enthusiasts.

 

Therefore, I have been trying to limit myself just to answering queries since past few months, jumping in only for short durations in any discussions.

 

All rahu needs is attention. (True but it is debatable because who does not like attention? Philosophers and professional writers writing in this forum will stop doing so if people stop responding to them). By stretching this thread on rahu, we are giving it just that. An astrologer should never forget the underlying eternal fact in any situation. I am also adding my last words on this thread, just to give my observations about rahu to the group members.

 

Rahu is not as bad as it is commonly assumed to be. Rahu in lagna, makes one self centered, but not selfish. Such a person is less critical of others and tends to find faults with oneself and tries to constantly improve upon them, but fails. (Very true)

 

His adjusting nature makes him at home in all situations.(very true). Most of them have happy marriages, if seventh lord is normal, and have very efficient spouses.

 

Rahu in lagna also gives great intuitive abilites to the native, but his intuition works with others only, not about self. Such a person has a very practical view about world and is often a good philosopher too. (Very true).

 

Calm and placid, not easily provoked, can take all criticism readily. For him, even the one criticising him is also paying him some attention. So, anything is welcome as long as it is directed at him. (very true. Actually I am the first one to admit my shortcomings before someone accuse me of them. In a way that may be my way of disarming the accuser).

 

Though lazy and comfort loving, men with rahu in lagna have also been found to be good at physical rigours like body building, wrestling, boxing and athletic events like javelin throw, discuss throw, etc. (Very true. I am always into improving myself physically and mentally. Recently I lost 25 lbs by serious fasting).

 

Discussions are good for enriching knowledge, but only if they enrich knowledge.

 

It is very difficult for knowledgeable ones to try to not to argue. But, the wise ones always try to end the argument.

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

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crystal pages

Saturday, 01 July, 2006 11:00

Re: Rahu in Lagna

 

Namastey Ashutoshji,

 

Long time!

 

Yes he does, if Wartime was not in use in his birthplace as he

maintains and other references are wrong. Or if the time he presented

was already corrected for WT, since he did post it as IST. He also

indicated that his time was rectified by some individual and also by

himself. And the time he gave after rectification was different from

what he posted originally -- all very confusing.

 

On a different matter, did you get a chance to read the article I

posted following an early thread, about sidereal and tropical zodiacs

and facts surrounding those? Please give the article a browse and let

me know what you think about that :-)

 

RR

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ji,

>

> Sorry to jump in.

>

> But, according to my limited experiences with astrology,

Pratap Ji has a gemini ascendent, but aquarius navamsa.

>

> Just gave my unworthy two cents.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

>

> [The services of this professional astrologer are free on this

group but off-group consultations are chargeable]

>

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Saturday, 01 July, 2006 10:30

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> you remind me so strikingly of the several significant taurus

lagnas

> that I have been blessed to meet in my life :-)

>

> The first one that I so fondly remember introduced me to Raman

> Ayanamsha!

>

> They were/are all very beautiful people!! Every single one I met

in

> one form or another!!!

>

> Why change anything?

>

> Hope you find your peace ...

>

> RR

>

> , Pratap Kaneria

>

wrote:

> >

> > There was no issue of trust with my father. I have always

believed

> in 'live and let live' policy and I just could not stand his

> dictatorial attitude and that why never had much communication

with

> him.

> >

> > What I said about education and work is honest. Let me give

> couple of points of description of myself as I see them. I am

lazy

> when it comes anything physical. I love to sleep, stay up late,

get

> up late on my schedule and take afternoon naps. Always looking

for

> short cuts. But I love solving problems that require use of

brains.

> For example I collected data on horse racing for about 20 yrs

trying

> to figure out a system to make a killing. I must have spent may

be

> 10,000 hrs doing that. Then I gave it up completely and suddenly.

> When I am not writing or reading my emails, I am either reading

books

> on astrology or hypnotism or something like that or I am figuring

> out 'Sudoku' puzzles of evil category (hardest). I am quite

extemist

> in the sense that either I like something very much or I don't

like

> it at all. There is no middle ground. If I do something I will do

it

> intensively and with singular focus. I absolutely do not like

> confrontation. Therefore most of the time instead

> > of arguing even when I am right, I will just agree to avoid

> confrontation. That does not mean I have really agreed. My

opinions

> hardly ever change. I am obstinate that way. I am very adaptable,

can

> put up with things that I don't like for long time if I need to.

I am

> self-reliant, adaptable, independent and very confident. I was

very

> ambitious when I started working but not anymore. I have

knowledge

> of many subjects but always superficial. Oh, one other thing I am

not

> a good student in the sense that I always question anything

taught to

> me. May be that is why I haven't learned anything in depth.

> >

> > Why am I telling you all this? May be because it might get you

> interested in looking at my chart and making a prediction that

will

> come true in near future.

> >

> > Yes I have doubts about my birthtime and wartime corrections.

And

> that is why I was inquiring about the application of divisional

> charts the other day. I am not entirely convinced about astrology

and

> all the rules written in so many books because many are quite

> contradictory. Yet I want to believe that there must be a few

people

> who have mastered this science enough to make a definitive

> prediction. With so many rules, like Pradeep said, any past event

can

> be explained by one or the other rule that applies, because there

are

> thousands of rules to choose from.

> >

> > One thing I have concluded is that a person who does not

believe

> in astrology or has no interest in astrology, is a person happy

in

> all aspects of life.

> >

> > Pratap

> >

> > I

> >

> > crystal pages wrote:

> > I was going with venus since it has been named as a karaka for

> mother

> > in certain contexts.

> > So there was a less than optimum trust with one of the parents!

> >

> > Regarding -- teachers I am glad that you had no problem. Was

there

> > something with the type of education that you found yourself in

or

> > the educational system, the entire experience that could

connect

> with

> > the theme of suspicion, excessive caution, mistrust?

> >

> > Please do not think of me as judgmental but there does seem to

be

> an

> > undercurrent of very strong vein of disbelief and suspicion and

> lack

> > of trust, if you are being perfectly honest here!

> >

> > You Sir do not even trust your own birthdata, the very source

of

> your

> > astrological being! This is not meaningless! Obviously you are

not

> > all that laid-back and lazy and easy-going as you tried to

portray

> > yourself or perhaps view yourself as ;-)

> >

> > I looked up Doris Chase Doane's Time Changes in the World

(predates

> > my computers and software and it states:

> > DST (same as WT) observed 1942-sep-01 to 1945-oct-15 except:

> > Bengal province (specific dates given)

> > Assam province (sp dates)

> > Bihar province (sp dates)

> >

> > Gujrat is not mentioned!

> >

> > This is not definitive but seems like you would have to do some

> more

> > research and find out what was really being followed in Dohraji

at

> > the time of your birth!

> >

> > Suspicion - even manageable paranoia - disbelief is not all

that

> bad,

> > trust me! The only reason we are still not in some cave, eating

> roots

> > and insects is because we did not trust status quo! We decided

to

> > crawl out of the caves!!

> >

> > Please seek enlightenment and while you are at it, searching

your

> > astrological roots, enlighten and educate us!

> >

> > I say that with all sincerity!!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , Pratap Kaneria

> >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected RRji,

> > >

> > > Honest answer is no. I never got along with my father but my

> > relationship with my mother has been very good throughtout. As

far

> as

> > my teachers, excellent relationship and as a matter of fact I

was a

> > favorite student wherever I studied, to the extent that during

my

> > master's program (US), my professor came to me during the final

> exam

> > of 'Mass Transfer' and told me to leave because he thought I

knew

> the

> > subject so well that I need not give the exam. It was one of

the

> > greatest honor a student can get. Similarly, wherever I worked,

my

> > managers were actually my protectors and promoters. To

summarize, I

> > must have tremendous blessing of Guru because I always got

along

> with

> > elders, teachers, bosses and still do.

> > >

> > > I really do not understand my horoscope. All the malefic

planets

> > seem to act very much in my favor. I can not figure out really

who

> is

> > malefic for me. By the way I have been diligently trying to

rectify

> > my birthtime and it looks like 22:00:40.934 seem to work. This

new

> > time does not change my rasi chart but navamsa lagna changes to

> > Gemini making my lagna vargottam. Also it makes Rahu and Ketu

> > vargottam.

> > >

> > > With Regards,

> > >

> > > Pratap

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > crystal pages wrote:

> > > How intersting! I see that someone else has responded to the

rahu

> > in

> > > 1 or 2 issue so I will save bandwidth!

> > >

> > > Just curious was there element of mistrust or suspicion

between

> you

> > > and your parents, perhaps mother or an auntie at some point

in

> > life?

> > > Also with teachers or educational system perhaps?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , Pratap Kaneria

> > >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected RRji,

> > > >

> > > > I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu

in

> > > Mithuna Lagna together with Shani.

> > > >

> > > > Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly

> always -

> > > - it makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.'

does

> not

> > > apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy

going,

> lazy

> > > and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone

> until

> > > proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting

> > nature,

> > > I have lost a fortune via investments in projects of friends

and

> > > family and stock market. Again this may be an example of how

> > looking

> > > at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

> > > >

> > > > My birth data is

> > > > DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27,

21N44

> > > (Dhoraji, India)

> > > >

> > > > With Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Pratap

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vijayamalur wrote:

> > > > Dear sir

> > > >

> > > > I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in

lagna.

> > Infact

> > > i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> > > >

> > > > Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> > > >

> > > > vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> > > >

> > > > I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in

lagna as

> > The

> > > latter would

> > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends

up

> > > losing a

> > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

> loved

> > > ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy

of

> > mine

> > > to my family sir

> > > >

> > > > I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or

reduce

> > the

> > > ill effect of it

> > > >

> > > > eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> > > >

> > > > best regards

> > > >

> > > > vijaya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > crystal pages

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> > > > Re: Rahu in Lagna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Milind,

> > > >

> > > > Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is

creating?

> > > > Please describe for my benefit what your belief is

regarding

> > > mantras?

> > > > Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would

get

> > > fixed

> > > > (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> > > >

> > > > Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

makes

> the

> > > native

> > > > very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is

that

> > the

> > > > individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

> > > materialistically,

> > > > but over the years they tend to lose things that were in

their

> > > lifeplan

> > > > but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The

latter

> > > would

> > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends

up

> > > losing a

> > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

> loved

> > > ones.

> > > >

> > > > The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The

> characteristics

> > of

> > > > that planet do not get expressed naturally and that

sometimes

> > > offers

> > > > the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may

not

> > > always

> > > > need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> > > >

> > > > Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal

your

> > > data, I

> > > > could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are

> really

> > > > looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want

to do

> > so

> > > and

> > > > someone will pick up the thread.

> > > >

> > > > It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a

fixed

> > box!

> > > In

> > > > the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad

> roles

> > > and

> > > > bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not

closed

> > the

> > > > window of our mind!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "padhyemilind2002"

> > > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello

> > > > > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun,

wherever

> it

> > > is

> > > > > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since

Sun

> is

> > > > > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity

other

> > > planets

> > > > > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at

29.53

> > > degrees

> > > > > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd

position,

> and

> > > hence

> > > > I

> > > > > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these

> > positions.

> > > Any

> > > > > ideas?

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Shri Ashutoshji,

 

Would you mind disclosing why you selected 'Aquarius' ascendant for navamsa for me?

With Regards,

Pratap

 

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote:

Dear Pratap Ji,

 

Your feedback is very valuable. Thanks.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Ashutosh

 

 

 

[The services of this professional astrologer are free on this group but off-group consultations are chargeable]

 

 

 

 

-

Pratap Kaneria

 

Saturday, 01 July, 2006 18:43

Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna-some additions

 

 

Shri Ashutoshji,

 

Thanks for adding your comments. I have added my feedback below on your assessment of Rahu which is based on my own peception of myself. I hope you do not see this as my way of streching the thread. But I thought you would appreciate my feedback as 'Rahu in Lagna' native to confirm your assessment.

 

With Regards,

 

Pratap

 

astrologerashutosh wrote:

Dear Rohini Ji,

 

His personality details already were fitting gemini ascendent. I simply had to find the fitting navamsa for him.

 

Yes, I have gone through the article you had posted on tropical and sidereal zodiacs. But, I desisted from adding anything to it just because that thread was getting too stretched.

 

Here, on this group, over-stretching of threads has become a norm, which gets irritating after a time. The conclusions which can be reached by common sense are never looked into and much time and energy is wasted on giving importance to trivial questions by less experienced astrology enthusiasts.

 

Therefore, I have been trying to limit myself just to answering queries since past few months, jumping in only for short durations in any discussions.

 

All rahu needs is attention. (True but it is debatable because who does not like attention? Philosophers and professional writers writing in this forum will stop doing so if people stop responding to them). By stretching this thread on rahu, we are giving it just that. An astrologer should never forget the underlying eternal fact in any situation. I am also adding my last words on this thread, just to give my observations about rahu to the group members.

 

Rahu is not as bad as it is commonly assumed to be. Rahu in lagna, makes one self centered, but not selfish. Such a person is less critical of others and tends to find faults with oneself and tries to constantly improve upon them, but fails. (Very true)

 

His adjusting nature makes him at home in all situations.(very true). Most of them have happy marriages, if seventh lord is normal, and have very efficient spouses.

 

Rahu in lagna also gives great intuitive abilites to the native, but his intuition works with others only, not about self. Such a person has a very practical view about world and is often a good philosopher too. (Very true).

 

Calm and placid, not easily provoked, can take all criticism readily. For him, even the one criticising him is also paying him some attention. So, anything is welcome as long as it is directed at him. (very true. Actually I am the first one to admit my shortcomings before someone accuse me of them. In a way that may be my way of disarming the accuser).

 

Though lazy and comfort loving, men with rahu in lagna have also been found to be good at physical rigours like body building, wrestling, boxing and athletic events like javelin throw, discuss throw, etc. (Very true. I am always into improving myself physically and mentally. Recently I lost 25 lbs by serious fasting).

 

Discussions are good for enriching knowledge, but only if they enrich knowledge.

 

It is very difficult for knowledgeable ones to try to not to argue. But, the wise ones always try to end the argument.

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

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crystal pages

 

Saturday, 01 July, 2006 11:00

Re: Rahu in Lagna

 

Namastey Ashutoshji,

 

Long time!

 

Yes he does, if Wartime was not in use in his birthplace as he

maintains and other references are wrong. Or if the time he presented

was already corrected for WT, since he did post it as IST. He also

indicated that his time was rectified by some individual and also by

himself. And the time he gave after rectification was different from

what he posted originally -- all very confusing.

 

On a different matter, did you get a chance to read the article I

posted following an early thread, about sidereal and tropical zodiacs

and facts surrounding those? Please give the article a browse and let

me know what you think about that :-)

 

RR

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

wrote:

>

> Dear Rohini Ji,

>

> Sorry to jump in.

>

> But, according to my limited experiences with astrology,

Pratap Ji has a gemini ascendent, but aquarius navamsa.

>

> Just gave my unworthy two cents.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

>

>

> [The services of this professional astrologer are free on this

group but off-group consultations are chargeable]

>

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Saturday, 01 July, 2006 10:30

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> you remind me so strikingly of the several significant taurus

lagnas

> that I have been blessed to meet in my life :-)

>

> The first one that I so fondly remember introduced me to Raman

> Ayanamsha!

>

> They were/are all very beautiful people!! Every single one I met

in

> one form or another!!!

>

> Why change anything?

>

> Hope you find your peace ...

>

> RR

>

> , Pratap Kaneria

>

wrote:

> >

> > There was no issue of trust with my father. I have always

believed

> in 'live and let live' policy and I just could not stand his

> dictatorial attitude and that why never had much communication

with

> him.

> >

> > What I said about education and work is honest. Let me give

> couple of points of description of myself as I see them. I am

lazy

> when it comes anything physical. I love to sleep, stay up late,

get

> up late on my schedule and take afternoon naps. Always looking

for

> short cuts. But I love solving problems that require use of

brains.

> For example I collected data on horse racing for about 20 yrs

trying

> to figure out a system to make a killing. I must have spent may

be

> 10,000 hrs doing that. Then I gave it up completely and suddenly.

> When I am not writing or reading my emails, I am either reading

books

> on astrology or hypnotism or something like that or I am figuring

> out 'Sudoku' puzzles of evil category (hardest). I am quite

extemist

> in the sense that either I like something very much or I don't

like

> it at all. There is no middle ground. If I do something I will do

it

> intensively and with singular focus. I absolutely do not like

> confrontation. Therefore most of the time instead

> > of arguing even when I am right, I will just agree to avoid

> confrontation. That does not mean I have really agreed. My

opinions

> hardly ever change. I am obstinate that way. I am very adaptable,

can

> put up with things that I don't like for long time if I need to.

I am

> self-reliant, adaptable, independent and very confident. I was

very

> ambitious when I started working but not anymore. I have

knowledge

> of many subjects but always superficial. Oh, one other thing I am

not

> a good student in the sense that I always question anything

taught to

> me. May be that is why I haven't learned anything in depth.

> >

> > Why am I telling you all this? May be because it might get you

> interested in looking at my chart and making a prediction that

will

> come true in near future.

> >

> > Yes I have doubts about my birthtime and wartime corrections.

And

> that is why I was inquiring about the application of divisional

> charts the other day. I am not entirely convinced about astrology

and

> all the rules written in so many books because many are quite

> contradictory. Yet I want to believe that there must be a few

people

> who have mastered this science enough to make a definitive

> prediction. With so many rules, like Pradeep said, any past event

can

> be explained by one or the other rule that applies, because there

are

> thousands of rules to choose from.

> >

> > One thing I have concluded is that a person who does not

believe

> in astrology or has no interest in astrology, is a person happy

in

> all aspects of life.

> >

> > Pratap

> >

> > I

> >

> > crystal pages wrote:

> > I was going with venus since it has been named as a karaka for

> mother

> > in certain contexts.

> > So there was a less than optimum trust with one of the parents!

> >

> > Regarding -- teachers I am glad that you had no problem. Was

there

> > something with the type of education that you found yourself in

or

> > the educational system, the entire experience that could

connect

> with

> > the theme of suspicion, excessive caution, mistrust?

> >

> > Please do not think of me as judgmental but there does seem to

be

> an

> > undercurrent of very strong vein of disbelief and suspicion and

> lack

> > of trust, if you are being perfectly honest here!

> >

> > You Sir do not even trust your own birthdata, the very source

of

> your

> > astrological being! This is not meaningless! Obviously you are

not

> > all that laid-back and lazy and easy-going as you tried to

portray

> > yourself or perhaps view yourself as ;-)

> >

> > I looked up Doris Chase Doane's Time Changes in the World

(predates

> > my computers and software and it states:

> > DST (same as WT) observed 1942-sep-01 to 1945-oct-15 except:

> > Bengal province (specific dates given)

> > Assam province (sp dates)

> > Bihar province (sp dates)

> >

> > Gujrat is not mentioned!

> >

> > This is not definitive but seems like you would have to do some

> more

> > research and find out what was really being followed in Dohraji

at

> > the time of your birth!

> >

> > Suspicion - even manageable paranoia - disbelief is not all

that

> bad,

> > trust me! The only reason we are still not in some cave, eating

> roots

> > and insects is because we did not trust status quo! We decided

to

> > crawl out of the caves!!

> >

> > Please seek enlightenment and while you are at it, searching

your

> > astrological roots, enlighten and educate us!

> >

> > I say that with all sincerity!!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , Pratap Kaneria

> >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected RRji,

> > >

> > > Honest answer is no. I never got along with my father but my

> > relationship with my mother has been very good throughtout. As

far

> as

> > my teachers, excellent relationship and as a matter of fact I

was a

> > favorite student wherever I studied, to the extent that during

my

> > master's program (US), my professor came to me during the final

> exam

> > of 'Mass Transfer' and told me to leave because he thought I

knew

> the

> > subject so well that I need not give the exam. It was one of

the

> > greatest honor a student can get. Similarly, wherever I worked,

my

> > managers were actually my protectors and promoters. To

summarize, I

> > must have tremendous blessing of Guru because I always got

along

> with

> > elders, teachers, bosses and still do.

> > >

> > > I really do not understand my horoscope. All the malefic

planets

> > seem to act very much in my favor. I can not figure out really

who

> is

> > malefic for me. By the way I have been diligently trying to

rectify

> > my birthtime and it looks like 22:00:40.934 seem to work. This

new

> > time does not change my rasi chart but navamsa lagna changes to

> > Gemini making my lagna vargottam. Also it makes Rahu and Ketu

> > vargottam.

> > >

> > > With Regards,

> > >

> > > Pratap

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > crystal pages wrote:

> > > How intersting! I see that someone else has responded to the

rahu

> > in

> > > 1 or 2 issue so I will save bandwidth!

> > >

> > > Just curious was there element of mistrust or suspicion

between

> you

> > > and your parents, perhaps mother or an auntie at some point

in

> > life?

> > > Also with teachers or educational system perhaps?

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , Pratap Kaneria

> > >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Respected RRji,

> > > >

> > > > I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu

in

> > > Mithuna Lagna together with Shani.

> > > >

> > > > Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly

> always -

> > > - it makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.'

does

> not

> > > apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy

going,

> lazy

> > > and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone

> until

> > > proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting

> > nature,

> > > I have lost a fortune via investments in projects of friends

and

> > > family and stock market. Again this may be an example of how

> > looking

> > > at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

> > > >

> > > > My birth data is

> > > > DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27,

21N44

> > > (Dhoraji, India)

> > > >

> > > > With Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Pratap

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vijayamalur wrote:

> > > > Dear sir

> > > >

> > > > I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in

lagna.

> > Infact

> > > i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> > > >

> > > > Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> > > >

> > > > vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> > > >

> > > > I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in

lagna as

> > The

> > > latter would

> > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends

up

> > > losing a

> > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

> loved

> > > ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy

of

> > mine

> > > to my family sir

> > > >

> > > > I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or

reduce

> > the

> > > ill effect of it

> > > >

> > > > eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> > > >

> > > > best regards

> > > >

> > > > vijaya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > > crystal pages

> > > >

> > > > Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> > > > Re: Rahu in Lagna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Milind,

> > > >

> > > > Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is

creating?

> > > > Please describe for my benefit what your belief is

regarding

> > > mantras?

> > > > Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would

get

> > > fixed

> > > > (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> > > >

> > > > Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

makes

> the

> > > native

> > > > very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is

that

> > the

> > > > individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

> > > materialistically,

> > > > but over the years they tend to lose things that were in

their

> > > lifeplan

> > > > but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The

latter

> > > would

> > > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends

up

> > > losing a

> > > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

> loved

> > > ones.

> > > >

> > > > The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The

> characteristics

> > of

> > > > that planet do not get expressed naturally and that

sometimes

> > > offers

> > > > the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may

not

> > > always

> > > > need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> > > >

> > > > Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal

your

> > > data, I

> > > > could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are

> really

> > > > looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want

to do

> > so

> > > and

> > > > someone will pick up the thread.

> > > >

> > > > It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a

fixed

> > box!

> > > In

> > > > the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad

> roles

> > > and

> > > > bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not

closed

> > the

> > > > window of our mind!

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , "padhyemilind2002"

> > > >

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hello

> > > > > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun,

wherever

> it

> > > is

> > > > > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since

Sun

> is

> > > > > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity

other

> > > planets

> > > > > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at

29.53

> > > degrees

> > > > > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd

position,

> and

> > > hence

> > > > I

> > > > > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these

> > positions.

> > > Any

> > > > > ideas?

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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