Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 No prafulla , Now I got bit confused. He taught with navamsha. Can you download his audio he took Jayendra Saraswathi camp. Actually concept is LL or 2nd house assement and I know it is bad for LL to be in 2nd house. What you say own sign saturn placemnet is that bad?? Regards, JL Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Not exactly. you mean to say that- for makara lagna, saturn is bad in 2nd house (own sign?). 2nd house and 12th house are bandhan for a native (different bondages).. regards / Prafulla Gang If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > > vedicastro_mind > Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:28:23 +1000 (EST) > vedic astrology > [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding more) > > Dear Freinds, > > Wellcome back again . > I am with more in my mind. > LL placement in 2nd house and 8 th should be assed with respect to > Asoora and Soora concept. > > Very easy. > Soora(life giving)Sun ,Ommn , Jup and Mars. > > Asoora(life cutting)Saturn ,Budh , Venus. > > Houses > Lagna ---- Karaka(Sun) ----->Soora > 2nd house----karaka(Jup)----->Soora > 3rd house-----karaka(Mars)----->Soora > 4------karaka(moon)---------->Soora > 5th----karaka(jup)---------->soora > 6th-----karaka(saturn)---------->Asoora > 7thth house ----karaka(venus)------>asoora > 8th -----karaka(saturn)------->Asoora > 9th house----karaka(jup)---->soora > 10th --------karaka(budh)----->Asoora > 11th---karaka(jup)--------->soora > 12th ---karaka(saturn)----->Asoora > > so easy 1 to 5th house soora houses > 6 to 8 asoora houses > 9 to 12 alternation sora and asoora. > > Now priciple is Rahu i forgot. > Ketu is dual asoora(materialy) > and soora(spiritualy). > > he is exception as he is headless. > Soora grahas should go in soora houses and Asoora graha in houses. > if there is mismatch then problem. > > This is Principle of Vivek that Guru jI taught. > Actually he taught this principle wrt placement of LL and 2nd lord. > > Also please remeber that gemstone of 2nd lord should be recomened and > not of Ll. > very careful plz Guru explains this very elaborately gemstone means 2nd > houselod thats it. > > He says he agrees to Parasara and not varamihira. > > Jayendra sarawathi LL and 2nd lord in 2nd house bad placemnet saturn > made hell in his life because 2nd house soora asoora (saturn) went there > and made hell , > all scandless came outside. > > Now my question goes is placement of LL and 2nd lord good or bad. > > Applying Gurujis principle as he taught its good > Saturn is in freindly sign hence good > he is funtional benefics sign > he is in 9th hose so good > but applying priciple of Vivek > Ll and 2nd lord in 9th house is bad. > > can anybody guide me in placement od saturn who is retro to me. > whether sun-saturn will give upliftment or gown fall onely one can > happen not two. > > here also Guru explain take mars and jup > mars (war) and guru(peace) we cant have peace war , either peace or > war. > > So plz guide me.only if time permits else simpley reject as some people > are emailing me in private and telling i am doing wrong thing of > demanding free prediction this is to all , i dont want predictions i want > to learn. > > AGAIN I SAY EVEN IF NO REPLY IS OK BUT DONT THINK WRONG I WANT FREE > PREDICTION , TEACH ME , I WOULD LIKE THAT. > > My details are: > gender:male > dob:17june 1982 > tob:22:36pm > place:bombay,india. > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards, > JL > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > Thanks, > Jyotish Learner > > > > > Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area Thanks, Jyotish Learner Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 || Om Vishnave Namah || || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah || Dear Shri Prafulla, Namaskar, I am now confident and grab thru my memory what was taught. Please bear with me as I proceed. See golden rule is LL placement in 1,4 , 7, 10 , 5 , 9 is good no doubt. Now astrologically speaking Varamihira say LL in 2nd is good but Parasara says no. LL placemnet in above house and pluses in freindly house is good as per Parasara. LL in 6, 12 is not that good except it help in materisltic pursuits as you told today. Now the conecpt of Vivek only comes to picture of applying and assesing LL placemnt in 2 or 8 th is that good or bad. For that he took Example of Shri . Jayendra Sarawathi Ji , when in Guru MD and Saturn ad , how his scandles got exposed to society. In totality what he taught is that, Saturn LL for Capricorn in 2nd is not good,because he goes in soora house Karaka Jupiter now rest is he example why man for that he explain of pisces navamsa lagna whicjh represent human ... , I think this is exception rest also we need to confirm only for LL placement in 2nd and 8th house , he gave one example but i am not writing now in detail. I think i told what i understood , if get his auido class 12 lect 1 .mps go though it it at 30mins from start. May the Light of Guru Shine within us. Best Wishes, JL Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: OK..I just asked, is it bad? regards / Prafulla Gang If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > > vedicastro_mind > Sat, 1 Jul 2006 14:23:33 +1000 (EST) > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding > more) > > No prafulla , Now I got bit confused. > He taught with navamsha. > Can you download his audio he took Jayendra Saraswathi camp. > Actually concept is LL or 2nd house assement and I know it is bad for > LL to be in 2nd house. > > What you say own sign saturn placemnet is that bad?? > > Regards, > JL > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Not exactly. you mean to say that- for makara lagna, saturn is > bad in 2nd house (own sign?). > > 2nd house and 12th house are bandhan for a native (different bondages).. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate > them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > >> >> vedicastro_mind >> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:28:23 +1000 (EST) >> vedic astrology >> [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding more) >> >> Dear Freinds, >> >> Wellcome back again . >> I am with more in my mind. >> LL placement in 2nd house and 8 th should be assed with respect to >> Asoora and Soora concept. >> >> Very easy. >> Soora(life giving)Sun ,Ommn , Jup and Mars. >> >> Asoora(life cutting)Saturn ,Budh , Venus. >> >> Houses >> Lagna ---- Karaka(Sun) ----->Soora >> 2nd house----karaka(Jup)----->Soora >> 3rd house-----karaka(Mars)----->Soora >> 4------karaka(moon)---------->Soora >> 5th----karaka(jup)---------->soora >> 6th-----karaka(saturn)---------->Asoora >> 7thth house ----karaka(venus)------>asoora >> 8th -----karaka(saturn)------->Asoora >> 9th house----karaka(jup)---->soora >> 10th --------karaka(budh)----->Asoora >> 11th---karaka(jup)--------->soora >> 12th ---karaka(saturn)----->Asoora >> >> so easy 1 to 5th house soora houses >> 6 to 8 asoora houses >> 9 to 12 alternation sora and asoora. >> >> Now priciple is Rahu i forgot. >> Ketu is dual asoora(materialy) >> and soora(spiritualy). >> >> he is exception as he is headless. >> Soora grahas should go in soora houses and Asoora graha in houses. >> if there is mismatch then problem. >> >> This is Principle of Vivek that Guru jI taught. >> Actually he taught this principle wrt placement of LL and 2nd lord. >> >> Also please remeber that gemstone of 2nd lord should be recomened and >> not of Ll. >> very careful plz Guru explains this very elaborately gemstone means 2nd >> houselod thats it. >> >> He says he agrees to Parasara and not varamihira. >> >> Jayendra sarawathi LL and 2nd lord in 2nd house bad placemnet saturn >> made hell in his life because 2nd house soora asoora (saturn) went there >> and made hell , >> all scandless came outside. >> >> Now my question goes is placement of LL and 2nd lord good or bad. >> >> Applying Gurujis principle as he taught its good >> Saturn is in freindly sign hence good >> he is funtional benefics sign >> he is in 9th hose so good >> but applying priciple of Vivek >> Ll and 2nd lord in 9th house is bad. >> >> can anybody guide me in placement od saturn who is retro to me. >> whether sun-saturn will give upliftment or gown fall onely one can >> happen not two. >> >> here also Guru explain take mars and jup >> mars (war) and guru(peace) we cant have peace war , either peace or >> war. >> >> So plz guide me.only if time permits else simpley reject as some people >> are emailing me in private and telling i am doing wrong thing of >> demanding free prediction this is to all , i dont want predictions i >> want >> to learn. >> >> AGAIN I SAY EVEN IF NO REPLY IS OK BUT DONT THINK WRONG I WANT FREE >> PREDICTION , TEACH ME , I WOULD LIKE THAT. >> >> My details are: >> gender:male >> dob:17june 1982 >> tob:22:36pm >> place:bombay,india. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Regards, >> JL >> >> >> Note: forwarded message attached. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Jyotish Learner >> >> >> >> >> Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area > > > > > > Thanks, > Jyotish Learner > > > > > Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area Thanks, Jyotish Learner On 7 Socceroos Central: Latest news, schedule, blogs and videos. 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I want to understand this chart if one can help me DAte of Birth : 13/06/1977 Place of Birth : Bikaner (Rajasthan , India) Time of Birth : 18:30 IST (Indian Standard time' ) regs --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > You mean to say that for vrishba, tula, kanya, > mithuna, makara and kumbha - LL in 2nd will be read > as bad placement; for rest of lagnas - it is good. > and extending the logic - is Dhanu lagna lord in 2nd > house of deilitation, will be considered favourable > placement? > > In your previous mail - you said that the rule for > D9 chart..so is i for D9 or D1? > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. > You may still hate them, but at least you're a mile > away and you have their shoes. > > > > > > vedicastro_mind > > Sat, 1 Jul 2006 19:54:03 +1000 (EST) > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 > Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding > > more) > > > > || Om Vishnave Namah || > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah || > > > > Dear Shri Prafulla, > > Namaskar, > > > > I am now confident and grab thru my memory what > was taught. > > > > Please bear with me as I proceed. > > > > See golden rule is LL placement in 1,4 , 7, 10 , > 5 , 9 is good no > > doubt. > > > > Now astrologically speaking Varamihira say LL > in 2nd is good but > > Parasara says no. > > LL placemnet in above house and pluses in > freindly house is good as per > > Parasara. > > > > LL in 6, 12 is not that good except it help in > materisltic pursuits as > > you told today. > > > > Now the conecpt of Vivek only comes to picture > of applying and assesing > > LL placemnt in 2 or 8 th is that good or bad. > > For that he took Example of Shri . Jayendra > Sarawathi Ji , when in > > Guru MD and Saturn ad , how his scandles got > exposed to society. > > > > In totality what he taught is that, Saturn LL > for Capricorn in 2nd is > > not good,because he goes in soora house Karaka > Jupiter now rest is he > > example why man for that he explain of pisces > navamsa lagna whicjh > > represent human ... , I think this is exception > rest also we need to > > confirm only for LL placement in 2nd and 8th house > , he gave one example > > but i am not writing now in detail. > > > > I think i told what i understood , if get his > auido class 12 lect 1 > > .mps go though it it at 30mins from start. > > > > May the Light of Guru Shine within us. > > > > Best Wishes, > > JL > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > > OK..I just asked, is it bad? > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their > shoes. You may still hate > > them, but at least you're a mile away and you have > their shoes. > > > >> > >> vedicastro_mind > >> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 14:23:33 +1000 (EST) > >> > >> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 > Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding > >> more) > >> > >> No prafulla , Now I got bit confused. > >> He taught with navamsha. > >> Can you download his audio he took Jayendra > Saraswathi camp. > >> Actually concept is LL or 2nd house assement and > I know it is bad for > >> LL to be in 2nd house. > >> > >> What you say own sign saturn placemnet is that > bad?? > >> > >> Regards, > >> JL > >> > >> > >> Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > >> Not exactly. you mean to say that- for makara > lagna, saturn is > >> bad in 2nd house (own sign?). > >> > >> 2nd house and 12th house are bandhan for a native > (different bondages).. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their > shoes. You may still hate > >> them, but at least you're a mile away and you > have their shoes. > >> > >>> > >>> vedicastro_mind > >>> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:28:23 +1000 (EST) > >>> vedic astrology > >>> [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture > 01 on Lagna(Adding > >>> more) > >>> > >>> Dear Freinds, > >>> > >>> Wellcome back again . > >>> I am with more in my mind. > >>> LL placement in 2nd house and 8 th should be > assed with respect to > >>> Asoora and Soora concept. > >>> > >>> Very easy. > >>> Soora(life giving)Sun ,Ommn , Jup and Mars. > >>> > >>> Asoora(life cutting)Saturn ,Budh , Venus. > >>> > >>> Houses > >>> Lagna ---- Karaka(Sun) ----->Soora > >>> 2nd house----karaka(Jup)----->Soora > >>> 3rd house-----karaka(Mars)----->Soora > >>> 4------karaka(moon)---------->Soora > >>> 5th----karaka(jup)---------->soora > >>> 6th-----karaka(saturn)---------->Asoora > >>> 7thth house ----karaka(venus)------>asoora > >>> 8th -----karaka(saturn)------->Asoora > >>> 9th house----karaka(jup)---->soora > >>> 10th --------karaka(budh)----->Asoora > >>> 11th---karaka(jup)--------->soora > >>> 12th ---karaka(saturn)----->Asoora > >>> > >>> so easy 1 to 5th house soora houses > >>> 6 to 8 asoora houses > >>> 9 to 12 alternation sora and asoora. > >>> > >>> Now priciple is Rahu i forgot. > >>> Ketu is dual asoora(materialy) > >>> and soora(spiritualy). > >>> > >>> he is exception as he is headless. > >>> Soora grahas should go in soora houses and > Asoora graha in houses. > >>> if there is mismatch then problem. > >>> > >>> This is Principle of Vivek that Guru jI taught. > >>> Actually he taught this principle wrt placement > of LL and 2nd lord. > >>> > >>> Also please remeber that gemstone of 2nd lord > should be recomened and > >>> not of Ll. > >>> very careful plz Guru explains this very > elaborately gemstone means 2nd > >>> houselod thats it. > >>> > >>> He says he agrees to Parasara and not > varamihira. > >>> > >>> Jayendra sarawathi LL and 2nd lord in 2nd house > bad placemnet saturn > >>> made hell in his life because 2nd house soora > asoora (saturn) went > >>> there > >>> and made hell , > >>> all scandless came outside. > >>> > >>> Now my question goes is placement of LL and 2nd > lord good or bad. > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Dear Shri Prafulla, Namaskar, At this Junture , I have requested Guru Visti Ji to guide us. I wont say anything wrong. I said what I knew. Also please note in my previous mail I talked about D9 to highlight even wrt Jayendra Sarawathi. Wherein D9 Lagna Sign was taken to highlight Human Killing. May the Light of Guru shine within us. Regards, JL Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: You mean to say that for vrishba, tula, kanya, mithuna, makara and kumbha - LL in 2nd will be read as bad placement; for rest of lagnas - it is good. and extending the logic - is Dhanu lagna lord in 2nd house of deilitation, will be considered favourable placement? In your previous mail - you said that the rule for D9 chart..so is i for D9 or D1? regards / Prafulla Gang If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > > vedicastro_mind > Sat, 1 Jul 2006 19:54:03 +1000 (EST) > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding > more) > > || Om Vishnave Namah || > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah || > > Dear Shri Prafulla, > Namaskar, > > I am now confident and grab thru my memory what was taught. > > Please bear with me as I proceed. > > See golden rule is LL placement in 1,4 , 7, 10 , 5 , 9 is good no > doubt. > > Now astrologically speaking Varamihira say LL in 2nd is good but > Parasara says no. > LL placemnet in above house and pluses in freindly house is good as per > Parasara. > > LL in 6, 12 is not that good except it help in materisltic pursuits as > you told today. > > Now the conecpt of Vivek only comes to picture of applying and assesing > LL placemnt in 2 or 8 th is that good or bad. > For that he took Example of Shri . Jayendra Sarawathi Ji , when in > Guru MD and Saturn ad , how his scandles got exposed to society. > > In totality what he taught is that, Saturn LL for Capricorn in 2nd is > not good,because he goes in soora house Karaka Jupiter now rest is he > example why man for that he explain of pisces navamsa lagna whicjh > represent human ... , I think this is exception rest also we need to > confirm only for LL placement in 2nd and 8th house , he gave one example > but i am not writing now in detail. > > I think i told what i understood , if get his auido class 12 lect 1 > .mps go though it it at 30mins from start. > > May the Light of Guru Shine within us. > > Best Wishes, > JL > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > OK..I just asked, is it bad? > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate > them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > >> >> vedicastro_mind >> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 14:23:33 +1000 (EST) >> >> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding >> more) >> >> No prafulla , Now I got bit confused. >> He taught with navamsha. >> Can you download his audio he took Jayendra Saraswathi camp. >> Actually concept is LL or 2nd house assement and I know it is bad for >> LL to be in 2nd house. >> >> What you say own sign saturn placemnet is that bad?? >> >> Regards, >> JL >> >> >> Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: >> Not exactly. you mean to say that- for makara lagna, saturn is >> bad in 2nd house (own sign?). >> >> 2nd house and 12th house are bandhan for a native (different bondages).. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate >> them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. >> >>> >>> vedicastro_mind >>> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:28:23 +1000 (EST) >>> vedic astrology >>> [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding >>> more) >>> >>> Dear Freinds, >>> >>> Wellcome back again . >>> I am with more in my mind. >>> LL placement in 2nd house and 8 th should be assed with respect to >>> Asoora and Soora concept. >>> >>> Very easy. >>> Soora(life giving)Sun ,Ommn , Jup and Mars. >>> >>> Asoora(life cutting)Saturn ,Budh , Venus. >>> >>> Houses >>> Lagna ---- Karaka(Sun) ----->Soora >>> 2nd house----karaka(Jup)----->Soora >>> 3rd house-----karaka(Mars)----->Soora >>> 4------karaka(moon)---------->Soora >>> 5th----karaka(jup)---------->soora >>> 6th-----karaka(saturn)---------->Asoora >>> 7thth house ----karaka(venus)------>asoora >>> 8th -----karaka(saturn)------->Asoora >>> 9th house----karaka(jup)---->soora >>> 10th --------karaka(budh)----->Asoora >>> 11th---karaka(jup)--------->soora >>> 12th ---karaka(saturn)----->Asoora >>> >>> so easy 1 to 5th house soora houses >>> 6 to 8 asoora houses >>> 9 to 12 alternation sora and asoora. >>> >>> Now priciple is Rahu i forgot. >>> Ketu is dual asoora(materialy) >>> and soora(spiritualy). >>> >>> he is exception as he is headless. >>> Soora grahas should go in soora houses and Asoora graha in houses. >>> if there is mismatch then problem. >>> >>> This is Principle of Vivek that Guru jI taught. >>> Actually he taught this principle wrt placement of LL and 2nd lord. >>> >>> Also please remeber that gemstone of 2nd lord should be recomened and >>> not of Ll. >>> very careful plz Guru explains this very elaborately gemstone means 2nd >>> houselod thats it. >>> >>> He says he agrees to Parasara and not varamihira. >>> >>> Jayendra sarawathi LL and 2nd lord in 2nd house bad placemnet saturn >>> made hell in his life because 2nd house soora asoora (saturn) went >>> there >>> and made hell , >>> all scandless came outside. >>> >>> Now my question goes is placement of LL and 2nd lord good or bad. >>> >>> Applying Gurujis principle as he taught its good >>> Saturn is in freindly sign hence good >>> he is funtional benefics sign >>> he is in 9th hose so good >>> but applying priciple of Vivek >>> Ll and 2nd lord in 9th house is bad. >>> >>> can anybody guide me in placement od saturn who is retro to me. >>> whether sun-saturn will give upliftment or gown fall onely one can >>> happen not two. >>> >>> here also Guru explain take mars and jup >>> mars (war) and guru(peace) we cant have peace war , either peace or >>> war. >>> >>> So plz guide me.only if time permits else simpley reject as some people >>> are emailing me in private and telling i am doing wrong thing of >>> demanding free prediction this is to all , i dont want predictions i >>> want >>> to learn. >>> >>> AGAIN I SAY EVEN IF NO REPLY IS OK BUT DONT THINK WRONG I WANT FREE >>> PREDICTION , TEACH ME , I WOULD LIKE THAT. >>> >>> My details are: >>> gender:male >>> dob:17june 1982 >>> tob:22:36pm >>> place:bombay,india. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Regards, >>> JL >>> >>> >>> Note: forwarded message attached. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jyotish Learner >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Jyotish Learner >> >> >> >> >> Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area > > > > > > Thanks, > Jyotish Learner > > > > On 7 > Socceroos Central: Latest news, schedule, blogs and videos. 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Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 cast chart then come up with doubts. i can help u in 1 planets in lagna what will it indicate jupiters conjuntion with any what does that means. LL placement in which house is good. Regards, JL Vivu <vivu9 > wrote: hi there . I want to understand this chart if one can help me DAte of Birth : 13/06/1977 Place of Birth : Bikaner (Rajasthan , India) Time of Birth : 18:30 IST (Indian Standard time' ) regs --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > You mean to say that for vrishba, tula, kanya, > mithuna, makara and kumbha - LL in 2nd will be read > as bad placement; for rest of lagnas - it is good. > and extending the logic - is Dhanu lagna lord in 2nd > house of deilitation, will be considered favourable > placement? > > In your previous mail - you said that the rule for > D9 chart..so is i for D9 or D1? > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. > You may still hate them, but at least you're a mile > away and you have their shoes. > > > > > > vedicastro_mind > > Sat, 1 Jul 2006 19:54:03 +1000 (EST) > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 > Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding > > more) > > > > || Om Vishnave Namah || > > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah || > > > > Dear Shri Prafulla, > > Namaskar, > > > > I am now confident and grab thru my memory what > was taught. > > > > Please bear with me as I proceed. > > > > See golden rule is LL placement in 1,4 , 7, 10 , > 5 , 9 is good no > > doubt. > > > > Now astrologically speaking Varamihira say LL > in 2nd is good but > > Parasara says no. > > LL placemnet in above house and pluses in > freindly house is good as per > > Parasara. > > > > LL in 6, 12 is not that good except it help in > materisltic pursuits as > > you told today. > > > > Now the conecpt of Vivek only comes to picture > of applying and assesing > > LL placemnt in 2 or 8 th is that good or bad. > > For that he took Example of Shri . Jayendra > Sarawathi Ji , when in > > Guru MD and Saturn ad , how his scandles got > exposed to society. > > > > In totality what he taught is that, Saturn LL > for Capricorn in 2nd is > > not good,because he goes in soora house Karaka > Jupiter now rest is he > > example why man for that he explain of pisces > navamsa lagna whicjh > > represent human ... , I think this is exception > rest also we need to > > confirm only for LL placement in 2nd and 8th house > , he gave one example > > but i am not writing now in detail. > > > > I think i told what i understood , if get his > auido class 12 lect 1 > > .mps go though it it at 30mins from start. > > > > May the Light of Guru Shine within us. > > > > Best Wishes, > > JL > > > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > > OK..I just asked, is it bad? > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their > shoes. You may still hate > > them, but at least you're a mile away and you have > their shoes. > > > >> > >> vedicastro_mind > >> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 14:23:33 +1000 (EST) > >> > >> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 > Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding > >> more) > >> > >> No prafulla , Now I got bit confused. > >> He taught with navamsha. > >> Can you download his audio he took Jayendra > Saraswathi camp. > >> Actually concept is LL or 2nd house assement and > I know it is bad for > >> LL to be in 2nd house. > >> > >> What you say own sign saturn placemnet is that > bad?? > >> > >> Regards, > >> JL > >> > >> > >> Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > >> Not exactly. you mean to say that- for makara > lagna, saturn is > >> bad in 2nd house (own sign?). > >> > >> 2nd house and 12th house are bandhan for a native > (different bondages).. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their > shoes. You may still hate > >> them, but at least you're a mile away and you > have their shoes. > >> > >>> > >>> vedicastro_mind > >>> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:28:23 +1000 (EST) > >>> vedic astrology > >>> [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture > 01 on Lagna(Adding > >>> more) > >>> > >>> Dear Freinds, > >>> > >>> Wellcome back again . > >>> I am with more in my mind. > >>> LL placement in 2nd house and 8 th should be > assed with respect to > >>> Asoora and Soora concept. > >>> > >>> Very easy. > >>> Soora(life giving)Sun ,Ommn , Jup and Mars. > >>> > >>> Asoora(life cutting)Saturn ,Budh , Venus. > >>> > >>> Houses > >>> Lagna ---- Karaka(Sun) ----->Soora > >>> 2nd house----karaka(Jup)----->Soora > >>> 3rd house-----karaka(Mars)----->Soora > >>> 4------karaka(moon)---------->Soora > >>> 5th----karaka(jup)---------->soora > >>> 6th-----karaka(saturn)---------->Asoora > >>> 7thth house ----karaka(venus)------>asoora > >>> 8th -----karaka(saturn)------->Asoora > >>> 9th house----karaka(jup)---->soora > >>> 10th --------karaka(budh)----->Asoora > >>> 11th---karaka(jup)--------->soora > >>> 12th ---karaka(saturn)----->Asoora > >>> > >>> so easy 1 to 5th house soora houses > >>> 6 to 8 asoora houses > >>> 9 to 12 alternation sora and asoora. > >>> > >>> Now priciple is Rahu i forgot. > >>> Ketu is dual asoora(materialy) > >>> and soora(spiritualy). > >>> > >>> he is exception as he is headless. > >>> Soora grahas should go in soora houses and > Asoora graha in houses. > >>> if there is mismatch then problem. > >>> > >>> This is Principle of Vivek that Guru jI taught. > >>> Actually he taught this principle wrt placement > of LL and 2nd lord. > >>> > >>> Also please remeber that gemstone of 2nd lord > should be recomened and > >>> not of Ll. > >>> very careful plz Guru explains this very > elaborately gemstone means 2nd > >>> houselod thats it. > >>> > >>> He says he agrees to Parasara and not > varamihira. > >>> > >>> Jayendra sarawathi LL and 2nd lord in 2nd house > bad placemnet saturn > >>> made hell in his life because 2nd house soora > asoora (saturn) went > >>> there > >>> and made hell , > >>> all scandless came outside. > >>> > >>> Now my question goes is placement of LL and 2nd > lord good or bad. > === message truncated === Thanks, Jyotish Learner Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Guys, Namaskar The points are abit scattered. Let me try and put them together for you. 1. A planet in own sign benefits. Commentary: Planets in own sign give benefits to the houses they lord. The example of Sri Jayendra Sarasvati was that Saturn as lord of lagna in second house in kumbha ensured leadership of a large familycommunity, and this was in the temple. 2. Asura grahas in houses whose karaka is a suragraha is not beneficial and vice versa. Commentary: This applies to the lagna and its lord as the focus is on those grahas who follow the Sungod (suras are those who follow Surya), and the Sun is karaka for lagna. A mismatch can indicate that the intelligence is used wrongly ot excerted in a wrong way. Example of Sri Jayendra Sarasvati where Shani as Lagnesh in the second house, though giving leadership of a big community could have pushed him to make some mistakes or wrong decissions regarding the leadership. 3. The navamsa of the ill placed planets shows the nature of the suffering faced. Commentary: Navamsa shows the (dur)bhagya or (mis)fortune of our activities. In the case of Sri Jayendra Sarasvati Saturn is placed in Pisces navamsa which indicates freedom and liberation (from liberty?) or the opposite, namely imprisonment and bandhana. Hence in his case the badly placed Saturn caused imprisonment. 4. The navamsa lagna shows the nature of the event which one is convicted off. Commentary: The navamsa lagna shows how our name and fame is shaped by our bhagya, and hence also the accusations we face when we face our durbhagya. In the case of Sri Jayendra Sarasvati Pisces is the navamsa lagna and indicates that the accusation is regarding the state of a human life, and particularly the charges were related to the killing of a person. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com *** _____ [] On Behalf Of Jyotish Learner 01 July 2006 16:53 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding more) Dear Shri Prafulla, Namaskar, At this Junture , I have requested Guru Visti Ji to guide us. I wont say anything wrong. I said what I knew. Also please note in my previous mail I talked about D9 to highlight even wrt Jayendra Sarawathi. Wherein D9 Lagna Sign was taken to highlight Human Killing. May the Light of Guru shine within us. Regards, JL Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: You mean to say that for vrishba, tula, kanya, mithuna, makara and kumbha - LL in 2nd will be read as bad placement; for rest of lagnas - it is good. and extending the logic - is Dhanu lagna lord in 2nd house of deilitation, will be considered favourable placement? In your previous mail - you said that the rule for D9 chart..so is i for D9 or D1? regards / Prafulla Gang If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > > vedicastro_mind@ <vedicastro_mind%40> > Sat, 1 Jul 2006 19:54:03 +1000 (EST) > @ <%40> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding > more) > > || Om Vishnave Namah || > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah || > > Dear Shri Prafulla, > Namaskar, > > I am now confident and grab thru my memory what was taught. > > Please bear with me as I proceed. > > See golden rule is LL placement in 1,4 , 7, 10 , 5 , 9 is good no > doubt. > > Now astrologically speaking Varamihira say LL in 2nd is good but > Parasara says no. > LL placemnet in above house and pluses in freindly house is good as per > Parasara. > > LL in 6, 12 is not that good except it help in materisltic pursuits as > you told today. > > Now the conecpt of Vivek only comes to picture of applying and assesing > LL placemnt in 2 or 8 th is that good or bad. > For that he took Example of Shri . Jayendra Sarawathi Ji , when in > Guru MD and Saturn ad , how his scandles got exposed to society. > > In totality what he taught is that, Saturn LL for Capricorn in 2nd is > not good,because he goes in soora house Karaka Jupiter now rest is he > example why man for that he explain of pisces navamsa lagna whicjh > represent human ... , I think this is exception rest also we need to > confirm only for LL placement in 2nd and 8th house , he gave one example > but i am not writing now in detail. > > I think i told what i understood , if get his auido class 12 lect 1 > .mps go though it it at 30mins from start. > > May the Light of Guru Shine within us. > > Best Wishes, > JL > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) <jyotish%40inbox.com> com> wrote: > OK..I just asked, is it bad? > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate > them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > >> >> vedicastro_mind@ <vedicastro_mind%40> >> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 14:23:33 +1000 (EST) >> @ <%40> >> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding >> more) >> >> No prafulla , Now I got bit confused. >> He taught with navamsha. >> Can you download his audio he took Jayendra Saraswathi camp. >> Actually concept is LL or 2nd house assement and I know it is bad for >> LL to be in 2nd house. >> >> What you say own sign saturn placemnet is that bad?? >> >> Regards, >> JL >> >> >> Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) <jyotish%40inbox.com> com> wrote: >> Not exactly. you mean to say that- for makara lagna, saturn is >> bad in 2nd house (own sign?). >> >> 2nd house and 12th house are bandhan for a native (different bondages).. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate >> them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. >> >>> >>> vedicastro_mind@ <vedicastro_mind%40> >>> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:28:23 +1000 (EST) >>> vedic astrology@ <vedic astrology%40> >>> [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding >>> more) >>> >>> Dear Freinds, >>> >>> Wellcome back again . >>> I am with more in my mind. >>> LL placement in 2nd house and 8 th should be assed with respect to >>> Asoora and Soora concept. >>> >>> Very easy. >>> Soora(life giving)Sun ,Ommn , Jup and Mars. >>> >>> Asoora(life cutting)Saturn ,Budh , Venus. >>> >>> Houses >>> Lagna ---- Karaka(Sun) ----->Soora >>> 2nd house----karaka(Jup)----->Soora >>> 3rd house-----karaka(Mars)----->Soora >>> 4------karaka(moon)---------->Soora >>> 5th----karaka(jup)---------->soora >>> 6th-----karaka(saturn)---------->Asoora >>> 7thth house ----karaka(venus)------>asoora >>> 8th -----karaka(saturn)------->Asoora >>> 9th house----karaka(jup)---->soora >>> 10th --------karaka(budh)----->Asoora >>> 11th---karaka(jup)--------->soora >>> 12th ---karaka(saturn)----->Asoora >>> >>> so easy 1 to 5th house soora houses >>> 6 to 8 asoora houses >>> 9 to 12 alternation sora and asoora. >>> >>> Now priciple is Rahu i forgot. >>> Ketu is dual asoora(materialy) >>> and soora(spiritualy). >>> >>> he is exception as he is headless. >>> Soora grahas should go in soora houses and Asoora graha in houses. >>> if there is mismatch then problem. >>> >>> This is Principle of Vivek that Guru jI taught. >>> Actually he taught this principle wrt placement of LL and 2nd lord. >>> >>> Also please remeber that gemstone of 2nd lord should be recomened and >>> not of Ll. >>> very careful plz Guru explains this very elaborately gemstone means 2nd >>> houselod thats it. >>> >>> He says he agrees to Parasara and not varamihira. >>> >>> Jayendra sarawathi LL and 2nd lord in 2nd house bad placemnet saturn >>> made hell in his life because 2nd house soora asoora (saturn) went >>> there >>> and made hell , >>> all scandless came outside. >>> >>> Now my question goes is placement of LL and 2nd lord good or bad. >>> >>> Applying Gurujis principle as he taught its good >>> Saturn is in freindly sign hence good >>> he is funtional benefics sign >>> he is in 9th hose so good >>> but applying priciple of Vivek >>> Ll and 2nd lord in 9th house is bad. >>> >>> can anybody guide me in placement od saturn who is retro to me. >>> whether sun-saturn will give upliftment or gown fall onely one can >>> happen not two. >>> >>> here also Guru explain take mars and jup >>> mars (war) and guru(peace) we cant have peace war , either peace or >>> war. >>> >>> So plz guide me.only if time permits else simpley reject as some people >>> are emailing me in private and telling i am doing wrong thing of >>> demanding free prediction this is to all , i dont want predictions i >>> want >>> to learn. >>> >>> AGAIN I SAY EVEN IF NO REPLY IS OK BUT DONT THINK WRONG I WANT FREE >>> PREDICTION , TEACH ME , I WOULD LIKE THAT. >>> >>> My details are: >>> gender:male >>> dob:17june 1982 >>> tob:22:36pm >>> place:bombay,india. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Regards, >>> JL >>> >>> >>> Note: forwarded message attached. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jyotish Learner >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Jyotish Learner >> >> >> >> >> Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area > > > > > > Thanks, > Jyotish Learner > > > > On 7 > Socceroos Central: Latest news, schedule, blogs and videos. 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Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 LL - Lagna Lord regards / Prafulla Gang If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > > alala108 (AT) (DOT) it > Sat, 1 Jul 2006 10:23:08 -0700 (PDT) > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding > more) > > What dose it meen LL? > > Alala > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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