Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Not exactly. you mean to say that- for makara lagna, saturn is bad in 2nd house (own sign?). 2nd house and 12th house are bandhan for a native (different bondages).. regards / Prafulla Gang If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > > vedicastro_mind > Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:28:23 +1000 (EST) > vedic astrology > [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding more) > > Dear Freinds, > > Wellcome back again . > I am with more in my mind. > LL placement in 2nd house and 8 th should be assed with respect to > Asoora and Soora concept. > > Very easy. > Soora(life giving)Sun ,Ommn , Jup and Mars. > > Asoora(life cutting)Saturn ,Budh , Venus. > > Houses > Lagna ---- Karaka(Sun) ----->Soora > 2nd house----karaka(Jup)----->Soora > 3rd house-----karaka(Mars)----->Soora > 4------karaka(moon)---------->Soora > 5th----karaka(jup)---------->soora > 6th-----karaka(saturn)---------->Asoora > 7thth house ----karaka(venus)------>asoora > 8th -----karaka(saturn)------->Asoora > 9th house----karaka(jup)---->soora > 10th --------karaka(budh)----->Asoora > 11th---karaka(jup)--------->soora > 12th ---karaka(saturn)----->Asoora > > so easy 1 to 5th house soora houses > 6 to 8 asoora houses > 9 to 12 alternation sora and asoora. > > Now priciple is Rahu i forgot. > Ketu is dual asoora(materialy) > and soora(spiritualy). > > he is exception as he is headless. > Soora grahas should go in soora houses and Asoora graha in houses. > if there is mismatch then problem. > > This is Principle of Vivek that Guru jI taught. > Actually he taught this principle wrt placement of LL and 2nd lord. > > Also please remeber that gemstone of 2nd lord should be recomened and > not of Ll. > very careful plz Guru explains this very elaborately gemstone means 2nd > houselod thats it. > > He says he agrees to Parasara and not varamihira. > > Jayendra sarawathi LL and 2nd lord in 2nd house bad placemnet saturn > made hell in his life because 2nd house soora asoora (saturn) went there > and made hell , > all scandless came outside. > > Now my question goes is placement of LL and 2nd lord good or bad. > > Applying Gurujis principle as he taught its good > Saturn is in freindly sign hence good > he is funtional benefics sign > he is in 9th hose so good > but applying priciple of Vivek > Ll and 2nd lord in 9th house is bad. > > can anybody guide me in placement od saturn who is retro to me. > whether sun-saturn will give upliftment or gown fall onely one can > happen not two. > > here also Guru explain take mars and jup > mars (war) and guru(peace) we cant have peace war , either peace or > war. > > So plz guide me.only if time permits else simpley reject as some people > are emailing me in private and telling i am doing wrong thing of > demanding free prediction this is to all , i dont want predictions i want > to learn. > > AGAIN I SAY EVEN IF NO REPLY IS OK BUT DONT THINK WRONG I WANT FREE > PREDICTION , TEACH ME , I WOULD LIKE THAT. > > My details are: > gender:male > dob:17june 1982 > tob:22:36pm > place:bombay,india. > > Thanks in advance. > > Regards, > JL > > > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > Thanks, > Jyotish Learner > > > > > Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 OK..I just asked, is it bad? regards / Prafulla Gang If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > > vedicastro_mind > Sat, 1 Jul 2006 14:23:33 +1000 (EST) > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding > more) > > No prafulla , Now I got bit confused. > He taught with navamsha. > Can you download his audio he took Jayendra Saraswathi camp. > Actually concept is LL or 2nd house assement and I know it is bad for > LL to be in 2nd house. > > What you say own sign saturn placemnet is that bad?? > > Regards, > JL > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Not exactly. you mean to say that- for makara lagna, saturn is > bad in 2nd house (own sign?). > > 2nd house and 12th house are bandhan for a native (different bondages).. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate > them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > >> >> vedicastro_mind >> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:28:23 +1000 (EST) >> vedic astrology >> [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding more) >> >> Dear Freinds, >> >> Wellcome back again . >> I am with more in my mind. >> LL placement in 2nd house and 8 th should be assed with respect to >> Asoora and Soora concept. >> >> Very easy. >> Soora(life giving)Sun ,Ommn , Jup and Mars. >> >> Asoora(life cutting)Saturn ,Budh , Venus. >> >> Houses >> Lagna ---- Karaka(Sun) ----->Soora >> 2nd house----karaka(Jup)----->Soora >> 3rd house-----karaka(Mars)----->Soora >> 4------karaka(moon)---------->Soora >> 5th----karaka(jup)---------->soora >> 6th-----karaka(saturn)---------->Asoora >> 7thth house ----karaka(venus)------>asoora >> 8th -----karaka(saturn)------->Asoora >> 9th house----karaka(jup)---->soora >> 10th --------karaka(budh)----->Asoora >> 11th---karaka(jup)--------->soora >> 12th ---karaka(saturn)----->Asoora >> >> so easy 1 to 5th house soora houses >> 6 to 8 asoora houses >> 9 to 12 alternation sora and asoora. >> >> Now priciple is Rahu i forgot. >> Ketu is dual asoora(materialy) >> and soora(spiritualy). >> >> he is exception as he is headless. >> Soora grahas should go in soora houses and Asoora graha in houses. >> if there is mismatch then problem. >> >> This is Principle of Vivek that Guru jI taught. >> Actually he taught this principle wrt placement of LL and 2nd lord. >> >> Also please remeber that gemstone of 2nd lord should be recomened and >> not of Ll. >> very careful plz Guru explains this very elaborately gemstone means 2nd >> houselod thats it. >> >> He says he agrees to Parasara and not varamihira. >> >> Jayendra sarawathi LL and 2nd lord in 2nd house bad placemnet saturn >> made hell in his life because 2nd house soora asoora (saturn) went there >> and made hell , >> all scandless came outside. >> >> Now my question goes is placement of LL and 2nd lord good or bad. >> >> Applying Gurujis principle as he taught its good >> Saturn is in freindly sign hence good >> he is funtional benefics sign >> he is in 9th hose so good >> but applying priciple of Vivek >> Ll and 2nd lord in 9th house is bad. >> >> can anybody guide me in placement od saturn who is retro to me. >> whether sun-saturn will give upliftment or gown fall onely one can >> happen not two. >> >> here also Guru explain take mars and jup >> mars (war) and guru(peace) we cant have peace war , either peace or >> war. >> >> So plz guide me.only if time permits else simpley reject as some people >> are emailing me in private and telling i am doing wrong thing of >> demanding free prediction this is to all , i dont want predictions i >> want >> to learn. >> >> AGAIN I SAY EVEN IF NO REPLY IS OK BUT DONT THINK WRONG I WANT FREE >> PREDICTION , TEACH ME , I WOULD LIKE THAT. >> >> My details are: >> gender:male >> dob:17june 1982 >> tob:22:36pm >> place:bombay,india. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Regards, >> JL >> >> >> Note: forwarded message attached. >> >> >> Thanks, >> Jyotish Learner >> >> >> >> >> Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area > > > > > > Thanks, > Jyotish Learner > > > > > Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 You mean to say that for vrishba, tula, kanya, mithuna, makara and kumbha - LL in 2nd will be read as bad placement; for rest of lagnas - it is good. and extending the logic - is Dhanu lagna lord in 2nd house of deilitation, will be considered favourable placement? In your previous mail - you said that the rule for D9 chart..so is i for D9 or D1? regards / Prafulla Gang If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > > vedicastro_mind > Sat, 1 Jul 2006 19:54:03 +1000 (EST) > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding > more) > > || Om Vishnave Namah || > || Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah || > > Dear Shri Prafulla, > Namaskar, > > I am now confident and grab thru my memory what was taught. > > Please bear with me as I proceed. > > See golden rule is LL placement in 1,4 , 7, 10 , 5 , 9 is good no > doubt. > > Now astrologically speaking Varamihira say LL in 2nd is good but > Parasara says no. > LL placemnet in above house and pluses in freindly house is good as per > Parasara. > > LL in 6, 12 is not that good except it help in materisltic pursuits as > you told today. > > Now the conecpt of Vivek only comes to picture of applying and assesing > LL placemnt in 2 or 8 th is that good or bad. > For that he took Example of Shri . Jayendra Sarawathi Ji , when in > Guru MD and Saturn ad , how his scandles got exposed to society. > > In totality what he taught is that, Saturn LL for Capricorn in 2nd is > not good,because he goes in soora house Karaka Jupiter now rest is he > example why man for that he explain of pisces navamsa lagna whicjh > represent human ... , I think this is exception rest also we need to > confirm only for LL placement in 2nd and 8th house , he gave one example > but i am not writing now in detail. > > I think i told what i understood , if get his auido class 12 lect 1 > .mps go though it it at 30mins from start. > > May the Light of Guru Shine within us. > > Best Wishes, > JL > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > OK..I just asked, is it bad? > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate > them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. > >> >> vedicastro_mind >> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 14:23:33 +1000 (EST) >> >> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding >> more) >> >> No prafulla , Now I got bit confused. >> He taught with navamsha. >> Can you download his audio he took Jayendra Saraswathi camp. >> Actually concept is LL or 2nd house assement and I know it is bad for >> LL to be in 2nd house. >> >> What you say own sign saturn placemnet is that bad?? >> >> Regards, >> JL >> >> >> Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: >> Not exactly. you mean to say that- for makara lagna, saturn is >> bad in 2nd house (own sign?). >> >> 2nd house and 12th house are bandhan for a native (different bondages).. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate >> them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes. >> >>> >>> vedicastro_mind >>> Sat, 1 Jul 2006 13:28:23 +1000 (EST) >>> vedic astrology >>> [Om Krishna Guru] SJC Class 12 Lecture 01 on Lagna(Adding >>> more) >>> >>> Dear Freinds, >>> >>> Wellcome back again . >>> I am with more in my mind. >>> LL placement in 2nd house and 8 th should be assed with respect to >>> Asoora and Soora concept. >>> >>> Very easy. >>> Soora(life giving)Sun ,Ommn , Jup and Mars. >>> >>> Asoora(life cutting)Saturn ,Budh , Venus. >>> >>> Houses >>> Lagna ---- Karaka(Sun) ----->Soora >>> 2nd house----karaka(Jup)----->Soora >>> 3rd house-----karaka(Mars)----->Soora >>> 4------karaka(moon)---------->Soora >>> 5th----karaka(jup)---------->soora >>> 6th-----karaka(saturn)---------->Asoora >>> 7thth house ----karaka(venus)------>asoora >>> 8th -----karaka(saturn)------->Asoora >>> 9th house----karaka(jup)---->soora >>> 10th --------karaka(budh)----->Asoora >>> 11th---karaka(jup)--------->soora >>> 12th ---karaka(saturn)----->Asoora >>> >>> so easy 1 to 5th house soora houses >>> 6 to 8 asoora houses >>> 9 to 12 alternation sora and asoora. >>> >>> Now priciple is Rahu i forgot. >>> Ketu is dual asoora(materialy) >>> and soora(spiritualy). >>> >>> he is exception as he is headless. >>> Soora grahas should go in soora houses and Asoora graha in houses. >>> if there is mismatch then problem. >>> >>> This is Principle of Vivek that Guru jI taught. >>> Actually he taught this principle wrt placement of LL and 2nd lord. >>> >>> Also please remeber that gemstone of 2nd lord should be recomened and >>> not of Ll. >>> very careful plz Guru explains this very elaborately gemstone means 2nd >>> houselod thats it. >>> >>> He says he agrees to Parasara and not varamihira. >>> >>> Jayendra sarawathi LL and 2nd lord in 2nd house bad placemnet saturn >>> made hell in his life because 2nd house soora asoora (saturn) went >>> there >>> and made hell , >>> all scandless came outside. >>> >>> Now my question goes is placement of LL and 2nd lord good or bad. >>> >>> Applying Gurujis principle as he taught its good >>> Saturn is in freindly sign hence good >>> he is funtional benefics sign >>> he is in 9th hose so good >>> but applying priciple of Vivek >>> Ll and 2nd lord in 9th house is bad. >>> >>> can anybody guide me in placement od saturn who is retro to me. >>> whether sun-saturn will give upliftment or gown fall onely one can >>> happen not two. >>> >>> here also Guru explain take mars and jup >>> mars (war) and guru(peace) we cant have peace war , either peace or >>> war. >>> >>> So plz guide me.only if time permits else simpley reject as some people >>> are emailing me in private and telling i am doing wrong thing of >>> demanding free prediction this is to all , i dont want predictions i >>> want >>> to learn. >>> >>> AGAIN I SAY EVEN IF NO REPLY IS OK BUT DONT THINK WRONG I WANT FREE >>> PREDICTION , TEACH ME , I WOULD LIKE THAT. >>> >>> My details are: >>> gender:male >>> dob:17june 1982 >>> tob:22:36pm >>> place:bombay,india. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Regards, >>> JL >>> >>> >>> Note: forwarded message attached. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jyotish Learner >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Jyotish Learner >> >> >> >> >> Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area > > > > > > Thanks, > Jyotish Learner > > > > On 7 > Socceroos Central: Latest news, schedule, blogs and videos. 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