Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 dear wendy, Wish yr better half happy birthday and wishing both of u very happy & long married life . i was going through a chart of mentally retarded boy but could not establish a logical reason. the details r : name : chirag date of birth : 14 the july 1987 time of birth : 08:57 am place of birth : INDORE , INDIA i request members to go through it & plese mail their observation VIJENDRA NANAVATI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Dear All Members I hv also tried to analyse the chart, but failed to understand the reason of mental reardness as claimed in the mails. The charts even D-6 for health does not indicates any mental retardness. Even the nakshatra in this case it is Satabhishak does support for mental retardness. I think the birth details may be wrong. Harry Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote: Dear Vijendra, I can think of one reason. I am not sure how correct I am. Hope others will correct me if I am wrong. A careful observation of Lagna will reveal that Lagna is severely afflicted by three dusthana lords. Sixth lord Sani, 8th lord Guru and the 12th lord Chandra are all aspecting Lagna. Afflicted Lagna means problem with head/brain. And, involvement of Chandra as a dusthana lord also indicates matters related to mental health. Hence, I guess the boy is mentally retarded because of the above reasons. Regards, Krishna --- VIJENDRA NANAVATI <nanavati_45 > wrote: > > dear memebers, > > i was going through a chart of mentally retarded > boy but could not > establish logical reasons. > the details r : > > name : chirag > > date of birth : 14 the july 1987 > > time of birth : 08:57 am > > place of birth : INDORE , INDIA > > requested to examine the horoscope and reasons so > found may be discussed. > > nanavati > > > > > > VIJENDRA NANAVATI, DIRECTOR (POWER), NARMADA > CONTROL AUTHORITY > MoWR,Govt.of India,E-4, NARMADA COLONY,Sch # 78 , > INDORE > > 452 010 (M.P.), INDIA > > PHONE :2574019® > > 2553783,2575766,2552703 (O) > > 98272 24520 > > 9300837810 > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Dear Nanavati and All, Both Rx Mercury, planet of the intellect (reasoning etc), and waning Moon, planet of mind (mental/emotional faculty), occupy nakshatra of Rahu who is placed in 8th. Moon's dispositor (Saturn) is retrograde in sign of Grt.En., whilst Saturn's dispositor Mars is debilitated in 12th. Lagna falls in nakshatra of Ketu, as does Rahu's dispositor (Jupiter). Note Ketu conjunct Gulika in 2nd house of speech, education, imagination and so forth. We can see several negative influences on mind/intellect... Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "VIJENDRA NANAVATI" <nanavati_45 > <jyotish-vidya> Monday, July 03, 2006 4:44 PM mentally retarded boy dear memebers, i was going through a chart of mentally retarded boy but could not establish logical reasons. the details r : name : chirag date of birth : 14 the july 1987 time of birth : 08:57 am place of birth : INDORE , INDIA requested to examine the horoscope and reasons so found may be discussed. nanavati VIJENDRA NANAVATI, DIRECTOR (POWER), NARMADA CONTROL AUTHORITY MoWR,Govt.of India,E-4, NARMADA COLONY,Sch # 78 , INDORE 452 010 (M.P.), INDIA PHONE :2574019® 2553783,2575766,2552703 (O) 98272 24520 9300837810 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 dear krishna, wonderful.... nice observation.....but these r necessary conditions not sufficient one. nanavati Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote: Dear Vijendra, I can think of one reason. I am not sure how correct I am. Hope others will correct me if I am wrong. A careful observation of Lagna will reveal that Lagna is severely afflicted by three dusthana lords. Sixth lord Sani, 8th lord Guru and the 12th lord Chandra are all aspecting Lagna. Afflicted Lagna means problem with head/brain. And, involvement of Chandra as a dusthana lord also indicates matters related to mental health. Hence, I guess the boy is mentally retarded because of the above reasons. Regards, Krishna --- VIJENDRA NANAVATI <nanavati_45 > wrote: > > dear memebers, > > i was going through a chart of mentally retarded > boy but could not > establish logical reasons. > the details r : > > name : chirag > > date of birth : 14 the july 1987 > > time of birth : 08:57 am > > place of birth : INDORE , INDIA > > requested to examine the horoscope and reasons so > found may be discussed. > > nanavati > > > > > > VIJENDRA NANAVATI, DIRECTOR (POWER), NARMADA > CONTROL AUTHORITY > MoWR,Govt.of India,E-4, NARMADA COLONY,Sch # 78 , > INDORE > > 452 010 (M.P.), INDIA > > PHONE :2574019® > > 2553783,2575766,2552703 (O) > > 98272 24520 > > 9300837810 > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low > PC-to-Phone call rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > VIJENDRA NANAVATI, DIRECTOR (POWER), NARMADA CONTROL AUTHORITY MoWR,Govt.of India,E-4, NARMADA COLONY,Sch # 78 , INDORE 452 010 (M.P.), INDIA PHONE :2574019® 2553783,2575766,2552703 (O) 98272 24520 9300837810 Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Dear Nanavati, Thanks for your comments. Let me say what I logic is. Please correct me if I am wrong: My understanding is that mental retardness is more of a problem related to the health of the brain rather than emotional problems. There could be emotional causes too, but the primary reason is due to problems with physical brain. Hence, I was focussing more on the brain rather than on the mind. Please give me your views on this. Regards, Krishna --- VIJENDRA NANAVATI <nanavati_45 > wrote: > dear krishna, > > wonderful.... nice observation.....but these r > necessary conditions not sufficient one. > > nanavati > > Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > > wrote: > Dear Vijendra, > > I can think of one reason. I am not sure how correct > I > am. Hope others will correct me if I am wrong. > > A careful observation of Lagna will reveal that > Lagna > is severely afflicted by three dusthana lords. Sixth > lord Sani, 8th lord Guru and the 12th lord Chandra > are > all aspecting Lagna. Afflicted Lagna means problem > with head/brain. And, involvement of Chandra as a > dusthana lord also indicates matters related to > mental > health. Hence, I guess the boy is mentally retarded > because of the above reasons. > > Regards, > Krishna > > --- VIJENDRA NANAVATI <nanavati_45 > wrote: > > > > > dear memebers, > > > > i was going through a chart of mentally retarded > > boy but could not > > establish logical reasons. > > the details r : > > > > name : chirag > > > > date of birth : 14 the july 1987 > > > > time of birth : 08:57 am > > > > place of birth : INDORE , INDIA > > > > requested to examine the horoscope and reasons so > > found may be discussed. > > > > nanavati > > > > > > > > > > > > VIJENDRA NANAVATI, DIRECTOR (POWER), NARMADA > > CONTROL AUTHORITY > > MoWR,Govt.of India,E-4, NARMADA COLONY,Sch # 78 , > > INDORE > > > > 452 010 (M.P.), INDIA > > > > PHONE :2574019® > > > > 2553783,2575766,2552703 (O) > > > > 98272 24520 > > > > 9300837810 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s > low > > PC-to-Phone call rates. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > > > VIJENDRA NANAVATI, DIRECTOR (POWER), NARMADA > CONTROL AUTHORITY > MoWR,Govt.of India,E-4, NARMADA COLONY,Sch # 78 , > INDORE > > 452 010 (M.P.), INDIA > > PHONE :2574019® > > 2553783,2575766,2552703 (O) > > 98272 24520 > > 9300837810 > > > > > > > > > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million > songs.Try it free. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Dear Krishna, The brain (as an organ of the body) may be perfectly healthy yet, due to influences on Mercury, Moon and the house of mind (5th), the natives ability to communicate, learn, reason or cognise can be severely impaired. Likewise the brain can suffer some disease such as tumour yet the native can retain his intellectual/mental faculties. Alzheimer disease (common with the elderly) certainly robs one of memory and intellectual faculties as the brain cells are actually dying... The point I'm making is that Alzheimer, brain tumour etc. are diseases affecting the brain (as an organ of the body). Mental retardation is not a disease (or injury) affecting the brain...not generally something that can be physically identified and treated. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Krishnamurthy Seetharama" <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya> Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:06 PM Re: mentally retarded boy Dear Nanavati, Thanks for your comments. Let me say what I logic is. Please correct me if I am wrong: My understanding is that mental retardness is more of a problem related to the health of the brain rather than emotional problems. There could be emotional causes too, but the primary reason is due to problems with physical brain. Hence, I was focussing more on the brain rather than on the mind. Please give me your views on this. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Dear Vijendra, Can you elaborate on his specifics a bit more. The chart is an intriguing one and although many have written for seeing this in the chart, I think this one would have been more difficult to see in advance or give the mentally retarded condition from a blind look at the chart. That being said though, there were some great posts giving reasons for this problem in this boy. Also this Moon in Satabishak can indicate the difficulty in diagnosing this. And Rahu co-lords as Moon's depositor as well as star lord for his Moon, and Rahu itself is given the quality of hidden, as well as difficult to diagnose in the 8H. Another interesting thing here is my book gives "obscure diseases having a psychic rather than physical origin" as 8th and 12th houses (and non-traditional Jyotish Neptune). There are some interesting causes perhaps as well and the nodes seem to be largely involved here. Do you know when the condition was recognized and diagnosed for this boy? Were the parents made aware of this while in infancy or did this take some time before the condition was noticed? A couple other things that have not been mentioned are that RMercury, though in very late MB degrees, still is in MB degree in the rasi chart. In the navamsa chart Venus is in MB degree and conjoined with this RMercury. There are no planets in Mercury's stars in either rasi or navamsa. Only planet in Moon's star is Ketu. RMercury, Moon and Venus are all in Rahu in 8H. My book gives as "working capacity of one's mind" as 8H. This is interesting with respect to this boy and what his experience may be with that Rahu there. In the cuspal chart Jupiter in Aries is also conjoined with this Rahu. Also taking chart from Moon, that Mars is in 6H in Moon's sign. This Mars could indicate measles or some kind of problem/disease for the mother, no? as causative. Also the 8th aspect of Mars on Moon. Also, some believe that Rahu gives a 5/9 house aspect which would include both Mars in Cancer as well as 4H with Saturn. In navamsa chart, this Mars and Rahu are conjoined in the 5H in a Rahu star, as are ascendant and Sun in Rahu star. And taking a look at this Rahu in 8H a bit more, the nakshatra is Uttarabhadrapada. Although ruled by Saturn, which is in this boy's 4H, this deity is Ahir Bhudhanya, meaning is given as "serpent of the depths". Again bringing the serpent image to mind and this again the nodes. And again, this deity, as well as the basic energy of this asterism, is shrouded in mystery. My book also gives Shiva as a presiding deity of this asterism, and mentions again that Shiva also carries a serpent around his neck. My books states that natives strongly under the influence of this nakshatra are as elusive as the serpent of the deep sea. Consistent with this serpent energy also this nakshatra relates to the kundalini, which again brings us to the spine. And PL gives that this star has attributes like those of Ardra. Interestingly also both his RMercury and Venus are in Ardra. Restraint is a word mentioned often when looking at Uttarabhadrapada. Also a debilitated Mars shows problems with expressing energy. Both these planets Mars and Rahu are in emotional water signs, these planets Mars and Rahu both energizing these emotional signs and yet frustrating them without an outlet and direction for this difficult energy. This too is consistent with that RSaturn in 4H of emotions. This looks to be very difficult for this boy. Best wishes, Patrice _____ jyotish-vidya [jyotish-vidya] On Behalf Of VIJENDRA NANAVATI Monday, July 03, 2006 4:44 AM jyotish-vidya mentally retarded boy dear memebers, i was going through a chart of mentally retarded boy but could not establish logical reasons. the details r : name : chirag date of birth : 14 the july 1987 time of birth : 08:57 am place of birth : INDORE , INDIA requested to examine the horoscope and reasons so found may be discussed. nanavati VIJENDRA NANAVATI, DIRECTOR (POWER), NARMADA CONTROL AUTHORITY MoWR,Govt.of India,E-4, NARMADA COLONY,Sch # 78 , INDORE 452 010 (M.P.), INDIA PHONE :2574019® 2553783,2575766,2552703 (O) 98272 24520 9300837810 How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 PS: What is the condition of this boy's sleep? And dreams or dream state if that is also possible to know from him? _____ jyotish-vidya [jyotish-vidya] On Behalf Of Patrice Curry Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:38 AM jyotish-vidya RE: mentally retarded boy Dear Vijendra, Can you elaborate on his specifics a bit more. The chart is an intriguing one and although many have written for seeing this in the chart, I think this one would have been more difficult to see in advance or give the mentally retarded condition from a blind look at the chart. That being said though, there were some great posts giving reasons for this problem in this boy. Also this Moon in Satabishak can indicate the difficulty in diagnosing this. And Rahu co-lords as Moon's depositor as well as star lord for his Moon, and Rahu itself is given the quality of hidden, as well as difficult to diagnose in the 8H. Another interesting thing here is my book gives "obscure diseases having a psychic rather than physical origin" as 8th and 12th houses (and non-traditional Jyotish Neptune). There are some interesting causes perhaps as well and the nodes seem to be largely involved here. Do you know when the condition was recognized and diagnosed for this boy? Were the parents made aware of this while in infancy or did this take some time before the condition was noticed? A couple other things that have not been mentioned are that RMercury, though in very late MB degrees, still is in MB degree in the rasi chart. In the navamsa chart Venus is in MB degree and conjoined with this RMercury. There are no planets in Mercury's stars in either rasi or navamsa. Only planet in Moon's star is Ketu. RMercury, Moon and Venus are all in Rahu in 8H. My book gives as "working capacity of one's mind" as 8H. This is interesting with respect to this boy and what his experience may be with that Rahu there. In the cuspal chart Jupiter in Aries is also conjoined with this Rahu. Also taking chart from Moon, that Mars is in 6H in Moon's sign. This Mars could indicate measles or some kind of problem/disease for the mother, no? as causative. Also the 8th aspect of Mars on Moon. Also, some believe that Rahu gives a 5/9 house aspect which would include both Mars in Cancer as well as 4H with Saturn. In navamsa chart, this Mars and Rahu are conjoined in the 5H in a Rahu star, as are ascendant and Sun in Rahu star. And taking a look at this Rahu in 8H a bit more, the nakshatra is Uttarabhadrapada. Although ruled by Saturn, which is in this boy's 4H, this deity is Ahir Bhudhanya, meaning is given as "serpent of the depths". Again bringing the serpent image to mind and this again the nodes. And again, this deity, as well as the basic energy of this asterism, is shrouded in mystery. My book also gives Shiva as a presiding deity of this asterism, and mentions again that Shiva also carries a serpent around his neck. My books states that natives strongly under the influence of this nakshatra are as elusive as the serpent of the deep sea. Consistent with this serpent energy also this nakshatra relates to the kundalini, which again brings us to the spine. And PL gives that this star has attributes like those of Ardra. Interestingly also both his RMercury and Venus are in Ardra. Restraint is a word mentioned often when looking at Uttarabhadrapada. Also a debilitated Mars shows problems with expressing energy. Both these planets Mars and Rahu are in emotional water signs, these planets Mars and Rahu both energizing these emotional signs and yet frustrating them without an outlet and direction for this difficult energy. This too is consistent with that RSaturn in 4H of emotions. This looks to be very difficult for this boy. Best wishes, Patrice _____ jyotish-vidya@ <jyotish-vidya%40> [jyotish-vidya@ <jyotish-vidya%40> ] On Behalf Of VIJENDRA NANAVATI Monday, July 03, 2006 4:44 AM jyotish-vidya@ <jyotish-vidya%40> mentally retarded boy dear memebers, i was going through a chart of mentally retarded boy but could not establish logical reasons. the details r : name : chirag date of birth : 14 the july 1987 time of birth : 08:57 am place of birth : INDORE , INDIA requested to examine the horoscope and reasons so found may be discussed. nanavati VIJENDRA NANAVATI, DIRECTOR (POWER), NARMADA CONTROL AUTHORITY MoWR,Govt.of India,E-4, NARMADA COLONY,Sch # 78 , INDORE 452 010 (M.P.), INDIA PHONE :2574019® 2553783,2575766,2552703 (O) 98272 24520 9300837810 How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Dear Wendy, Thanks for the clarification. My misundertanding was due to the fact that somewhere I read that the mental retardation is casued due to the damage caused to the brain during pregnency (like mother consuming excessive alcohol)or during child birth (eg. using forcepts during delivery etc.). Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > The brain (as an organ of the body) may be perfectly > healthy yet, due > to influences on Mercury, Moon and the house of mind > (5th), the > natives ability to communicate, learn, reason or > cognise can be > severely impaired. Likewise the brain can suffer > some disease such as > tumour yet the native can retain his > intellectual/mental faculties. > Alzheimer disease (common with the elderly) > certainly robs one of > memory and intellectual faculties as the brain cells > are actually > dying... > > The point I'm making is that Alzheimer, brain tumour > etc. are > diseases affecting the brain (as an organ of the > body). Mental > retardation is not a disease (or injury) affecting > the brain...not > generally something that can be physically > identified and treated. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Krishnamurthy Seetharama" > <krishna_1998 > > <jyotish-vidya> > Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:06 PM > Re: mentally retarded boy > > > Dear Nanavati, > > Thanks for your comments. Let me say what I logic > is. > Please correct me if I am wrong: > > My understanding is that mental retardness is more > of > a problem related to the health of the brain rather > than emotional problems. There could be emotional > causes too, but the primary reason is due to > problems > with physical brain. Hence, I was focussing more on > the brain rather than on the mind. > > Please give me your views on this. > > Regards, > Krishna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Dear Krishna, //I read that the mental retardation is casued due to the damage caused to the brain during pregnency (like mother consuming excessive alcohol)or during child birth (eg. using forcepts during delivery etc.).// These things are also possible. Brain damage can occur during birth due to lack of oxygen, forceps delivery etc. Also events during pregnancy (infections etc) can cause the brain and/or other vital organs not to develop properly. Cerebral Palsy is an example of brain damage most commonly as a result of complications during birth. I've known several people with cerebral palsy who are extremely clever with a very sharp intellect... Other than actual brain damage, reduced intellectual capacity is most likely due to negative influences on Mercury etc.. It would be helpful if we had more feedback from Nanavati regarding this native. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Krishnamurthy Seetharama" <krishna_1998 > <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:30 AM Re: mentally retarded boy Dear Wendy, Thanks for the clarification. My misundertanding was due to the fact that somewhere I read that the mental retardation is casued due to the damage caused to the brain during pregnency (like mother consuming excessive alcohol)or during child birth (eg. using forcepts during delivery etc.). Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Dear Wendy, Ok. I am happy to note that I was not on a wrong track. Yes, I agree that Mercury is one of the indicators as well. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > //I read that the mental retardation is casued due > to the damage > caused to the brain during pregnency (like mother > consuming excessive > alcohol)or during child birth (eg. using forcepts > during delivery > etc.).// > > These things are also possible. Brain damage can > occur during birth > due to lack of oxygen, forceps delivery etc. Also > events during > pregnancy (infections etc) can cause the brain > and/or other vital > organs not to develop properly. Cerebral Palsy is an > example of brain > damage most commonly as a result of complications > during birth. I've > known several people with cerebral palsy who are > extremely clever > with a very sharp intellect... > > Other than actual brain damage, reduced intellectual > capacity is most > likely due to negative influences on Mercury etc.. > It would be > helpful if we had more feedback from Nanavati > regarding this native. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Krishnamurthy Seetharama" > <krishna_1998 > > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:30 AM > Re: mentally retarded boy > > > Dear Wendy, > > Thanks for the clarification. My misundertanding was > due to the fact that somewhere I read that the > mental > retardation is casued due to the damage caused to > the > brain during pregnency (like mother consuming > excessive alcohol)or during child birth (eg. using > forcepts during delivery etc.). > > Regards, > Krishna > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Dear Wendy & All All this time we are trying to analyse the horoscope of the mentally retarded native, it's fine, now let us go one step further by trying to analyse the cause of the mental retardness by studying the h'scope of the parents. Can the member who gave the details of the mental retarded native give the birth details of the parents. For every effect their is a cause. Let us find the cause of the mental retardness, maybe from the parensts h'scope we may get some clue on the cause the mental retardness? Harry Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote: Dear Wendy, Ok. I am happy to note that I was not on a wrong track. Yes, I agree that Mercury is one of the indicators as well. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > //I read that the mental retardation is casued due > to the damage > caused to the brain during pregnency (like mother > consuming excessive > alcohol)or during child birth (eg. using forcepts > during delivery > etc.).// > > These things are also possible. Brain damage can > occur during birth > due to lack of oxygen, forceps delivery etc. Also > events during > pregnancy (infections etc) can cause the brain > and/or other vital > organs not to develop properly. Cerebral Palsy is an > example of brain > damage most commonly as a result of complications > during birth. I've > known several people with cerebral palsy who are > extremely clever > with a very sharp intellect... > > Other than actual brain damage, reduced intellectual > capacity is most > likely due to negative influences on Mercury etc.. > It would be > helpful if we had more feedback from Nanavati > regarding this native. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ > > - > "Krishnamurthy Seetharama" > <krishna_1998 > > <jyotish-vidya> > Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:30 AM > Re: mentally retarded boy > > > Dear Wendy, > > Thanks for the clarification. My misundertanding was > due to the fact that somewhere I read that the > mental > retardation is casued due to the damage caused to > the > brain during pregnency (like mother consuming > excessive alcohol)or during child birth (eg. using > forcepts during delivery etc.). > > Regards, > Krishna > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Dear Harry and All, You should take a look at the dasa at birth (RA-JU-SU-ME). As said earlier Rahu in 8th is star lord of both Mercury and Moon. Bhukti lord Jupiter, Rahu's dispositor and star lord of Pratyantar (lagnesh) Sun, is in sign of debilitated Mars...sookshmantar lord Mercury in retrograde motion etc.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 > <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:34 PM Re: mentally retarded boy Dear Wendy & All All this time we are trying to analyse the horoscope of the mentally retarded native, it's fine, now let us go one step further by trying to analyse the cause of the mental retardness by studying the h'scope of the parents. Can the member who gave the details of the mental retarded native give the birth details of the parents. For every effect their is a cause. Let us find the cause of the mental retardness, maybe from the parensts h'scope we may get some clue on the cause the mental retardness? Harry Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote: Dear Wendy, Ok. I am happy to note that I was not on a wrong track. Yes, I agree that Mercury is one of the indicators as well. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > //I read that the mental retardation is casued due > to the damage > caused to the brain during pregnency (like mother > consuming excessive > alcohol)or during child birth (eg. using forcepts > during delivery > etc.).// > > These things are also possible. Brain damage can > occur during birth > due to lack of oxygen, forceps delivery etc. Also > events during > pregnancy (infections etc) can cause the brain > and/or other vital > organs not to develop properly. Cerebral Palsy is an > example of brain > damage most commonly as a result of complications > during birth. I've > known several people with cerebral palsy who are > extremely clever > with a very sharp intellect... > > Other than actual brain damage, reduced intellectual > capacity is most > likely due to negative influences on Mercury etc.. > It would be > helpful if we had more feedback from Nanavati > regarding this native. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Dear Wendy I am not talking of the dasa at the time of birth as the chart u hv analysed and the reasons given for the mental retardness. I am looking from the karmic angle. Whatever deeds we have done in our poorva janma(Past birth deeds) get reflected in our horoscope on how our present birth will be by the placement of various planets in various houses. If the planets are placed which are beneficial and give oustanding results indicate that in our past birth we have done something good or very good hence we are better placed and vice versa. I am trying to analyse the past birth reasons for mental retardness may be by having a look at the parents h'scope we may get some clues. Harry Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Dear Harry and All, You should take a look at the dasa at birth (RA-JU-SU-ME). As said earlier Rahu in 8th is star lord of both Mercury and Moon. Bhukti lord Jupiter, Rahu's dispositor and star lord of Pratyantar (lagnesh) Sun, is in sign of debilitated Mars...sookshmantar lord Mercury in retrograde motion etc.. Best Wishes, Mrs. Wendy http://JyotishVidya.com ______________________________ - "Haresh (Harry) Nathani" <haresh1405 > <jyotish-vidya> Thursday, July 06, 2006 10:34 PM Re: mentally retarded boy Dear Wendy & All All this time we are trying to analyse the horoscope of the mentally retarded native, it's fine, now let us go one step further by trying to analyse the cause of the mental retardness by studying the h'scope of the parents. Can the member who gave the details of the mental retarded native give the birth details of the parents. For every effect their is a cause. Let us find the cause of the mental retardness, maybe from the parensts h'scope we may get some clue on the cause the mental retardness? Harry Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote: Dear Wendy, Ok. I am happy to note that I was not on a wrong track. Yes, I agree that Mercury is one of the indicators as well. Regards, Krishna --- Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: > Dear Krishna, > > //I read that the mental retardation is casued due > to the damage > caused to the brain during pregnency (like mother > consuming excessive > alcohol)or during child birth (eg. using forcepts > during delivery > etc.).// > > These things are also possible. Brain damage can > occur during birth > due to lack of oxygen, forceps delivery etc. Also > events during > pregnancy (infections etc) can cause the brain > and/or other vital > organs not to develop properly. Cerebral Palsy is an > example of brain > damage most commonly as a result of complications > during birth. I've > known several people with cerebral palsy who are > extremely clever > with a very sharp intellect... > > Other than actual brain damage, reduced intellectual > capacity is most > likely due to negative influences on Mercury etc.. > It would be > helpful if we had more feedback from Nanavati > regarding this native. > > Best Wishes, > Mrs. Wendy > http://JyotishVidya.com > ______________________________ Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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