Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 dear friends the recent sabarimala controversy due to jayamala's confession to an astrologer made public, has made the media busy with portraying such rules as gender bias. no god ever tells that only one religion people shall come to me. earlier in india in the same religion also lower castes were not allowed to visit temples. now in the same religion females are not allowed. in another temple in the south, foreigners are not allowed even to have a darshan at a distance and all they can watch is the temple from outside. truly these things are spoiling the reputation of the great vedic culture and this holy land which has been treating all humans equally . most famous holy places are situated in the north, be it ayodhya, mathura, kashi or many jyotirlingas and shakti peethas and in all these places, all humans (including females) are allowed inside the sanctum sanctorum and can offer poojas by touching the dieties. unfortunately in south india, there are too many bias on too many counts. if you wish to have a free darshan of the diety, you would watch the diety at a distance of 100 feet. if you pay rs.100 you would watch the diety at a lesser distance of 50 feet. if you pay rs.500 you would watch the diety clost to the diety at just 10 feet. you pay more than rs.1000 you can go inside the sanctum sanctorum and sit in front of the god. nowhere in any of the most famous temples (ayodhya, mathura or kasi) not even one rupee is charged and all rich and poor will have same close darshan alike without any bias. seems like none of the south indian temple managers have learnt any lesson from the adi sankaracharya (south indian) who found shiva in a chandal in kashi and what he preached to his followers in the south has been falling on deaf ears. it is high time people realise the gender bias, caste bias, money bias and allow all humans to reach the god, FOR THE SAME GOD DWELLS IN ALL HUMAN BEINGS. the reason for my writing this in this group is because all astrologers advocate worshipping of certain deities or visit certain temple to all humans equally without any bias of caste, religion or gender. with best wishes pandit arjun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Respected Members, This is just information for the current (unfortunate) Sabarimalai controversy. The temple at Sabarimalai is very sacred and unique with the presiding deity Lord Shri Ayyappan who is in the form of a very strict chaste bhramachari. The Shreekovil at Sabarimalai is not open 365 days as any normal temple, but is opened specially for the Mandala puja around the middle-end of November and closes after the Makara Jyothy day (normally around 15 January) and also on some other days of the year like Vishu, otherwise it is closed for devotees. Anybody who has performed the 40 day vratham, which includes refraining from non-veg, alcohol, physical pleasures, fasting, not shaving and cutting hair, wearing only simple cotton clothes, sleeping on the floor, amongst others. This ritual is just not "for the sake of ritual" but is intended to separate us from this artificial temporary world, discipline the mind and the body and finally purify our karmas BEFORE we actually go to the Shreekovil to meet Lord Ayyappan. Anybody who has not performed this ritual is not allowed (technically) to climb the 18 scared steps leading to the Shreekovil. Hence as a result, women (in the age group of 10- 50) who cannot perform this 40 day vratham were barred from the temple, however menopausal women who have completed this vratham were allowed. There is NO RESTRICITION of any kind that only Hindu devotees would gain access to the temple, but is open to anyone who has completed this vratham. Nowadays, it has become fashionable to go telling everybody that one has gone to this pilgrimage because of several bollywood actors endorsing it. As with other famous pilgrimages, the true esscence of penance, sacrifice and most importantly bakthi have sadly perished giving way to false prestige and purity. Sadly many who claim to have undergo the vratham donot do it sincerely and hence disrespect the importance laid by Lord Ayyappan on discpline, devotion and sacrifice, and thus do not reap the true benifites of the mandala puja. My sincere request is that if you do plan to go for the Mandala puja at Sabarimalai, do take some time to get yourself informed about the reasons behind the 40 day vratham and the rules and relugations at the Shreekovil to get the maximum benefit of purifying and uplifting yourself. Swamiye Saranam Ayyappa Sincerely, Kamlesh panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wruote: dear friends the recent sabarimala controversy due to jayamala's confession to an astrologer made public, has made the media busy with portraying such rules as gender bias. no god ever tells that only one religion people shall come to me. earlier in india in the same religion also lower castes were not allowed to visit temples. now in the same religion females are not allowed. in another temple in the south, foreigners are not allowed even to have a darshan at a distance and all they can watch is the temple from outside. truly these things are spoiling the reputation of the great vedic culture and this holy land which has been treating all humans equally . most famous holy places are situated in the north, be it ayodhya, mathura, kashi or many jyotirlingas and shakti peethas and in all these places, all humans (including females) are allowed inside the sanctum sanctorum and can offer poojas by touching the dieties. unfortunately in south india, there are too many bias on too many counts. if you wish to have a free darshan of the diety, you would watch the diety at a distance of 100 feet. if you pay rs.100 you would watch the diety at a lesser distance of 50 feet. if you pay rs.500 you would watch the diety clost to the diety at just 10 feet. you pay more than rs.1000 you can go inside the sanctum sanctorum and sit in front of the god. nowhere in any of the most famous temples (ayodhya, mathura or kasi) not even one rupee is charged and all rich and poor will have same close darshan alike without any bias. seems like none of the south indian temple managers have learnt any lesson from the adi sankaracharya (south indian) who found shiva in a chandal in kashi and what he preached to his followers in the south has been falling on deaf ears. it is high time people realise the gender bias, caste bias, money bias and allow all humans to reach the god, FOR THE SAME GOD DWELLS IN ALL HUMAN BEINGS. the reason for my writing this in this group is because all astrologers advocate worshipping of certain deities or visit certain temple to all humans equally without any bias of caste, religion or gender. with best wishes pandit arjun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Dear Sir pandit arjun! You are hundred percent right in pointing out the hypocracy and crude discrimination still practiced by the oligarchy of higher caste priests in Indian Temples occupying them(Temples) from generations and making them business centers. Even Kasi the 'Pandas' are a big nuisance. But you also said : >all > astrologers advocate worshipping of certain deities or visit certain > temple to all humans equally without any bias of caste, religion or > gender. Yes, Astrologers do advice it(visiting temples and worshipping etc.) as a karmik remedy(shanthi), but astrologers don't control the power hierarchy of the society comprising of different castes, religions, sects and people etc. The Astrologers are doing their duty in advising visiting the Temples or Worshipping etc. Or at an Higher Level, 'Meditation' to put the people in right spiritual path. And it is the duty/responsibility of the people to deal with the unjust system and fight for equality in Hindu temples themselves. Astrologer is like a Doctor, he can do diagnosis and prescribe the karmik medicine(remedy) but cannot go to pharmacy and buy the medicine for the patient. My Point is People should become more 'Aware' of what is going on and Astrologers should prescribe more and more better Remedies like 'Meditation' or 'Japa Chantings' etc and other Self-done Remedies like LalKitab etc., which in my opinion, are more effective and beneficial rather than going to Temples and Increasing the existing Corruption by spending their valuable money and time there. Best Wishes Sincerely ANAND www.fortunepredictions.com <http://www.fortunepredictions.com/> vedic astrology, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > the recent sabarimala controversy due to jayamala's confession to an > astrologer made public, has made the media busy with portraying such > rules as gender bias. > > no god ever tells that only one religion people shall come to me. > earlier in india in the same religion also lower castes were not > allowed to visit temples. now in the same religion females are not > allowed. in another temple in the south, foreigners are not allowed > even to have a darshan at a distance and all they can watch is the > temple from outside. truly these things are spoiling the reputation > of the great vedic culture and this holy land which has been > treating all humans equally . > > most famous holy places are situated in the north, be it ayodhya, > mathura, kashi or many jyotirlingas and shakti peethas and in all > these places, all humans (including females) are allowed inside the > sanctum sanctorum and can offer poojas by touching the dieties. > unfortunately in south india, there are too many bias on too many > counts. if you wish to have a free darshan of the diety, you would > watch the diety at a distance of 100 feet. if you pay rs.100 you > would watch the diety at a lesser distance of 50 feet. if you pay > rs.500 you would watch the diety clost to the diety at just 10 > feet. you pay more than rs.1000 you can go inside the sanctum > sanctorum and sit in front of the god. nowhere in any of the most > famous temples (ayodhya, mathura or kasi) not even one rupee is > charged and all rich and poor will have same close darshan alike > without any bias. > > seems like none of the south indian temple managers have learnt any > lesson from the adi sankaracharya (south indian) who found shiva in > a chandal in kashi and what he preached to his followers in the > south has been falling on deaf ears. > > it is high time people realise the gender bias, caste bias, money > bias and allow all humans to reach the god, FOR THE SAME GOD DWELLS > IN ALL HUMAN BEINGS. > > the reason for my writing this in this group is because all > astrologers advocate worshipping of certain deities or visit certain > temple to all humans equally without any bias of caste, religion or > gender. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Dear Shri Arjun, Very well said. I respect your feelings and second your opinion. Vijay Kumar - panditarjun2004 Friday, June 30, 2006 8:30 PM man made bias in the name of god dear friends the recent sabarimala controversy due to jayamala's confession to an astrologer made public, has made the media busy with portraying such rules as gender bias. no god ever tells that only one religion people shall come to me. earlier in india in the same religion also lower castes were not allowed to visit temples. now in the same religion females are not allowed. in another temple in the south, foreigners are not allowed even to have a darshan at a distance and all they can watch is the temple from outside. truly these things are spoiling the reputation of the great vedic culture and this holy land which has been treating all humans equally . most famous holy places are situated in the north, be it ayodhya, mathura, kashi or many jyotirlingas and shakti peethas and in all these places, all humans (including females) are allowed inside the sanctum sanctorum and can offer poojas by touching the dieties. unfortunately in south india, there are too many bias on too many counts. if you wish to have a free darshan of the diety, you would watch the diety at a distance of 100 feet. if you pay rs.100 you would watch the diety at a lesser distance of 50 feet. if you pay rs.500 you would watch the diety clost to the diety at just 10 feet. you pay more than rs.1000 you can go inside the sanctum sanctorum and sit in front of the god. nowhere in any of the most famous temples (ayodhya, mathura or kasi) not even one rupee is charged and all rich and poor will have same close darshan alike without any bias. seems like none of the south indian temple managers have learnt any lesson from the adi sankaracharya (south indian) who found shiva in a chandal in kashi and what he preached to his followers in the south has been falling on deaf ears. it is high time people realise the gender bias, caste bias, money bias and allow all humans to reach the god, FOR THE SAME GOD DWELLS IN ALL HUMAN BEINGS. the reason for my writing this in this group is because all astrologers advocate worshipping of certain deities or visit certain temple to all humans equally without any bias of caste, religion or gender. with best wishes pandit arjun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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