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Dear Members,,,

I m neutral person , not taking side of tarun and against of any one.....

I think we never forget about the research of elder people like B V Raman , Lahiris and even NASA are follwing lahirs system of anaymsa , and if we think that from last so many years astrologers are follwing this anaymsa and doing predictions or marriage and manglik and all very correct..., so if any one need to change that anaymsa and do some better research need to come with full proof and strong evidence and other wise this nice strenght of indian will be ruined in coming future as we are no 1 fixed method to follow and even educated people will hesitate to follow and come in astrology field...., MR K N RAO, B V RAMAN are some big names in field of astrology and research ... , and they did big work and to completly say like this they are wrong , they have research expereicen even more than age of MINE,........ . ,,,

tarun u nned to talk to K N Rao , and field of research in astrology and prove it .,,, other wise it will be no use ,.. and people will more and confuse and stay away from astrology ,

I m still follwing follwing lahiris, system coz i dnt want to get confuse ... as i m studied from BHartiya vidhya bhavan , delhi....

Please continue this thread with ur valuable suggestion and please any one dnt mind nething because it just 1 thing to be good for all and we must follow other wise whtever u feel u follw and whtever i feel let me follow dnt compell ne one to do nething ........

with reagrds

rahul.............

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar > wrote:

Tarun

WE R NOT AGAINST U, IT is the kind of thing u call for research.

 

if u included all the points said on Aries so far transits, aspects u get the answer

but singling it to Jupt R alone makes no sense. it i never done

can u cook a meal with just with one item? wheat, rice or barley alone no salt, oil, vegetables, water, heat the processing it etc?

this is want we asked u to.

 

 

same way Tarun chopra said his Aynansa will fix all problems and refuses to listen, learn, has discarded all older works, says they r useless, and even when we say Ayanamsa is a tool not a solution he shifts ayanamsa so drastically by 11 deg

he is neither an siddhanti [one who writes almanacs] nor a astrologer, or a astro physicist, and still makes bold statements

says by his dasa change every dasa change will give u an event will not any other ayanamsa or no ayanamsa also not give it. to argue without sense we can, but calling it research and making the subject more turbid is no good

we need to consolidate all available knowledge polish, clean it and modify it to our times.

 

it holds good for all ages.

 

 

~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst > wrote: Dear Members,

 

Is there a ""WAR ""going on with me

 

i didnt said prafulla ji not to participate in thread but i just said him that cutting my lines is

not a solution to continue...

if i want to ask for your help then also you are saying saturn and mars in 4th houe..

 

i am simply continuing the topic by asking people who are aries lagna that did they felt anything

bad in marital relationship after jupiter got retrograde.

 

nothing is war like in that.

 

you all are astrologers and you must help in finding out did something like that happened with

Aries lagna people.

 

prafulla ji was continuousy saying that see other planets too ..see other planets too..

 

but i m just particularly asking abt GURU retrograde.

 

And please PRASHANT JI dont make this small thing a war , i thought yuo wont think my reply like

that.

 

I hope you will support me further too like in ur previous mail to me.

 

Thanks and Regards

 

Tarun

--- crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

> Kumar ji,

>

> Not to worry. Even if message header is changed, it remains linked to

> the same thread (see below).

> RR

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar wrote:

> >

> > Prafulla

> > stay on, it is no ones job to dictate the course of the thread, I

> am sure we r in a mature democracy, it is strange TARUN CHOPRA and

> Tarun_vst seem, sound so autocratical single minded, no holistic

> approach, research if mislead on such flimsy point will ruin

> astrology more so stay on u've done a good job as i saw. and he need

> sto throw up data like I did so that we can see a fee other aspects

> in the chart to verufy the chart itself.

> >

> > Prafulla Gang <jyotish

> wrote: Dear Tarun ji

> >

> > final mail....

> >

> > If you do not want me to post mails to the thread initiated by

> you, fine with me. I have no issues...I did not have idea that,

> people initiating the thread frames the rules. Perhaps, my

> presumption of non personal participation (without rude statements)

> is wrong.

> >

> > I apologize to you and other members, if I sounded stepping out

> of forum decorum,and having posted unsolicited participation.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make

> the world safe for diversity.

> >

> > >

> > > tarun_vst

> > > Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:15:18 +0100 (BST)

> > >

> > > RE: Re: Re: Are all Aries Lagna born facing

> problems in

> > > marriage .-Prashant ji

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Prafulla ji,

> > >

> > > i hope you now understand the Subject line of my first mail

> > >

> > > in that i strictly wrote

> > >

> > > ARIES LAGNA PEOPLE WHO OBSERVED PROBLEMS IN MARTICAL LIFE SINCE

> JUPITER

> > > RETROGRADE.

> > >

> > > i already know where is saturn and where is mars , where is

> venus and

> > > where is sun.

> > > i m particular about JUPITER IN LIBRA which is RETROGRADE.

> Please let me

> > > do my work finely.

> > > if you cannot help me than please donot interfere in between

> the mails.

> > >

> > > Thanks with best Regads

> > > Tarun.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

> > >

> > >> Dear Tarun ji

> > >>

> > >> Many thanks for sharing data. It will be interested to

> understand the

> > >> type of marital problems,

> > >> Jupiter ® alone can provide (not for other factors

> significantly).

> > >>

> > >> I understand that mesha lagna have challenges relating to their

> > >> business, day to day issues,

> > >> health related challenges (11th lord aspecting lagna and

> afflicting

> > >> debilitated lagna lord -

> > >> worsened by 6th lord too afflicting weak lagna lord; and mars

> now in

> > >> ashlesha nakshatra), 7th

> > >> house significations (???? as venus is well placed now in

> vrishna)...and

> > >> in my view, these

> > >> problems will persist until mercury leaves from karka (it will

> turn

> > >> retrograde..and then will

> > >> afflcit sun too after july 15) and saturn leaves (esp..saturn

> will now

> > >> come in aslesha

> > >> constellation..ruled by mercury). and when venus also joins

> the band in

> > >> august..the challenges

> > >> will escalate (for aspect from rahu and association with

> mercury /

> > >> saturn..and rahu in D9 then

> > >> too). This challenge exist for many other lagnas, ofcourse not

> > >> necessarily to 7th house related

> > >> factors. On the contrary, mesha does not have any affliction

> to 7th

> > >> house.....It is rather weak

> > >> and afflicted mars, making native troubled and helpless.

> > >>

> > >> I need to write again, that I am not trying to convince you. I

> am

> > >> putting the above factors to

> > >> make reading little more wider / open, and trying best to stop

> reaching

> > >> at fatalisitic

> > >> conclusion from Jupiter ®.

> > >>

> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>

> > >> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help

> make the

> > >> world safe for diversity.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> tarun_vst

> > >>> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:39:53 +0100 (BST)

> > >>>

> > >>> Re: Re: Are all Aries Lagna born facing

> problems in

> > >>> marriage .-Prashant ji

> > >>>

> > >>> Hello members,

> > >>>

> > >>> Just cutting other is not a solution to end this thread but

> supporting

> > >>> like prashant ji is a way

> > >>> to help others if someone is trying to study.

> > >>>

> > >>> i was expecting aries lagna people but i guess i must post

> this to

> > >>> vedic

> > >>> astro forum because last

> > >>> year when i asked something abt virgo lagna people who faced

> problem

> > >>> when

> > >>> jupiter (badhak)

> > >>> transitted to their lagna.

> > >>> and i was supported by all members whoever had some charts or

> contacts

> > >>> they also mailed me and

> > >>> tryed to look out members who were virgo lagna.

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> i am giving a few charts in my record. and i will post a few

> after

> > >>> getting their details.

> > >>>

> > >>> 1. - 26 : 11 : 1981 4.08 Pm Jaipur ( male)

> > >>> 2. - 19 april 1980, 7.20 am, Pali (female)

> > >>> 3. - 7 nov-1977 - 5.10 pm New delhi ( female )

> > >>> 4. - 20 jan 1983, gangapur city,12.20 Pm (male)

> > >>> 5. - 9 : may : 1978 , 5.55 am ,gazipur(male)

> > >>> 6. 12-sept-1973 - 9.10 pm - Gwalior ( Female)

> > >>> 7. 4 may 1980... delhi... 5.30 am

> > >>>

> > >>> these all are aries langa people.

> > >>>

> > >>> these all are in my frend circle so i talked abt all of them

> and so i

> > >>> put

> > >>> this among all of you.

> > >>>

> > >>> there are a few more frends of mine who are aries lagna

> people but i

> > >>> dont

> > >>> have their data so i

> > >>> have contacted them for the details.

> > >>>

> > >>> you can observe the charts and can make a conclusion.

> > >>>

> > >>> Thanks and Regards

> > >>>

> > >>> Tarun

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> --- ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>>> Dear Prashant ji,

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Grateful to be guided by you.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> this is a very nice chart.some problems like Her mars is in

> 7th house

> > >>>> with ketu.

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

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Dear all --

 

This is an example of why I find these and particularly this forum so

invigourating. For there are such revelations from time to time.

 

Dear Rahul Vashishta ji,

 

<<I think we never forget about the research of elder people like B V

Raman , Lahiris and even NASA are follwing lahirs system of anaymsa ,

>>

 

Please tell more! Where, why and whatfor, NASA is using Lahiri

aynamsha? I would love to add this citation for my personal study and

elaboration.

 

In research, truly yours,

 

Rohiniranjan

 

 

 

, rahul vashisht

<rahulvashisht_astro wrote:

>

> Dear Members,,,

>

> I m neutral person , not taking side of tarun and against of any

one.....

> I think we never forget about the research of elder people like B

V Raman , Lahiris and even NASA are follwing lahirs system of

anaymsa , and if we think that from last so many years astrologers

are follwing this anaymsa and doing predictions or marriage and

manglik and all very correct..., so if any one need to change that

anaymsa and do some better research need to come with full proof and

strong evidence and other wise this nice strenght of indian will be

ruined in coming future as we are no 1 fixed method to follow and

even educated people will hesitate to follow and come in astrology

field...., MR K N RAO, B V RAMAN are some big names in field of

astrology and research ... , and they did big work and to completly

say like this they are wrong , they have research expereicen even

more than age of MINE,........ . ,,,

>

> tarun u nned to talk to K N Rao , and field of research in

astrology and prove it .,,, other wise it will be no use ,.. and

people will more and confuse and stay away from astrology ,

>

> I m still follwing follwing lahiris, system coz i dnt want to get

confuse ... as i m studied from BHartiya vidhya bhavan , delhi....

>

> Please continue this thread with ur valuable suggestion and

please any one dnt mind nething because it just 1 thing to be good

for all and we must follow other wise whtever u feel u follw and

whtever i feel let me follow dnt compell ne one to do nething ........

>

>

> with reagrds

> rahul.............

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

> Tarun

> WE R NOT AGAINST U, IT is the kind of thing u call for research.

>

> if u included all the points said on Aries so far transits, aspects

u get the answer

> but singling it to Jupt R alone makes no sense. it i never done

> can u cook a meal with just with one item? wheat, rice or barley

alone no salt, oil, vegetables, water, heat the processing it etc?

> this is want we asked u to.

>

>

> same way Tarun chopra said his Aynansa will fix all problems and

refuses to listen, learn, has discarded all older works, says they r

useless, and even when we say Ayanamsa is a tool not a solution he

shifts ayanamsa so drastically by 11 deg

> he is neither an siddhanti [one who writes almanacs] nor a

astrologer, or a astro physicist, and still makes bold statements

> says by his dasa change every dasa change will give u an event will

not any other ayanamsa or no ayanamsa also not give it. to argue

without sense we can, but calling it research and making the subject

more turbid is no good

> we need to consolidate all available knowledge polish, clean it and

modify it to our times.

>

> it holds good for all ages.

>

>

> ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst wrote: Dear Members,

>

> Is there a ""WAR ""going on with me

>

> i didnt said prafulla ji not to participate in thread but i just

said him that cutting my lines is

> not a solution to continue...

> if i want to ask for your help then also you are saying saturn and

mars in 4th houe..

>

> i am simply continuing the topic by asking people who are aries

lagna that did they felt anything

> bad in marital relationship after jupiter got retrograde.

>

> nothing is war like in that.

>

> you all are astrologers and you must help in finding out did

something like that happened with

> Aries lagna people.

>

> prafulla ji was continuousy saying that see other planets too ..see

other planets too..

>

> but i m just particularly asking abt GURU retrograde.

>

> And please PRASHANT JI dont make this small thing a war , i thought

yuo wont think my reply like

> that.

>

> I hope you will support me further too like in ur previous mail to

me.

>

> Thanks and Regards

>

> Tarun

> --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> > Kumar ji,

> >

> > Not to worry. Even if message header is changed, it remains

linked to

> > the same thread (see below).

> > RR

> >

> > , Prashant Kumar G B

> > <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Prafulla

> > > stay on, it is no ones job to dictate the course of the thread,

I

> > am sure we r in a mature democracy, it is strange TARUN CHOPRA

and

> > Tarun_vst seem, sound so autocratical single minded, no holistic

> > approach, research if mislead on such flimsy point will ruin

> > astrology more so stay on u've done a good job as i saw. and he

need

> > sto throw up data like I did so that we can see a fee other

aspects

> > in the chart to verufy the chart itself.

> > >

> > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > wrote: Dear Tarun ji

> > >

> > > final mail....

> > >

> > > If you do not want me to post mails to the thread initiated by

> > you, fine with me. I have no issues...I did not have idea that,

> > people initiating the thread frames the rules. Perhaps, my

> > presumption of non personal participation (without rude

statements)

> > is wrong.

> > >

> > > I apologize to you and other members, if I sounded stepping out

> > of forum decorum,and having posted unsolicited participation.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make

> > the world safe for diversity.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > tarun_vst@

> > > > Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:15:18 +0100 (BST)

> > > >

> > > > RE: Re: Re: Are all Aries Lagna born facing

> > problems in

> > > > marriage .-Prashant ji

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Prafulla ji,

> > > >

> > > > i hope you now understand the Subject line of my first mail

> > > >

> > > > in that i strictly wrote

> > > >

> > > > ARIES LAGNA PEOPLE WHO OBSERVED PROBLEMS IN MARTICAL LIFE

SINCE

> > JUPITER

> > > > RETROGRADE.

> > > >

> > > > i already know where is saturn and where is mars , where is

> > venus and

> > > > where is sun.

> > > > i m particular about JUPITER IN LIBRA which is RETROGRADE.

> > Please let me

> > > > do my work finely.

> > > > if you cannot help me than please donot interfere in between

> > the mails.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks with best Regads

> > > > Tarun.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> Dear Tarun ji

> > > >>

> > > >> Many thanks for sharing data. It will be interested to

> > understand the

> > > >> type of marital problems,

> > > >> Jupiter ® alone can provide (not for other factors

> > significantly).

> > > >>

> > > >> I understand that mesha lagna have challenges relating to

their

> > > >> business, day to day issues,

> > > >> health related challenges (11th lord aspecting lagna and

> > afflicting

> > > >> debilitated lagna lord -

> > > >> worsened by 6th lord too afflicting weak lagna lord; and

mars

> > now in

> > > >> ashlesha nakshatra), 7th

> > > >> house significations (???? as venus is well placed now in

> > vrishna)...and

> > > >> in my view, these

> > > >> problems will persist until mercury leaves from karka (it

will

> > turn

> > > >> retrograde..and then will

> > > >> afflcit sun too after july 15) and saturn leaves

(esp..saturn

> > will now

> > > >> come in aslesha

> > > >> constellation..ruled by mercury). and when venus also joins

> > the band in

> > > >> august..the challenges

> > > >> will escalate (for aspect from rahu and association with

> > mercury /

> > > >> saturn..and rahu in D9 then

> > > >> too). This challenge exist for many other lagnas, ofcourse

not

> > > >> necessarily to 7th house related

> > > >> factors. On the contrary, mesha does not have any affliction

> > to 7th

> > > >> house.....It is rather weak

> > > >> and afflicted mars, making native troubled and helpless.

> > > >>

> > > >> I need to write again, that I am not trying to convince you.

I

> > am

> > > >> putting the above factors to

> > > >> make reading little more wider / open, and trying best to

stop

> > reaching

> > > >> at fatalisitic

> > > >> conclusion from Jupiter ®.

> > > >>

> > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >>

> > > >> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help

> > make the

> > > >> world safe for diversity.

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> tarun_vst@

> > > >>> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:39:53 +0100 (BST)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Re: Re: Are all Aries Lagna born facing

> > problems in

> > > >>> marriage .-Prashant ji

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Hello members,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Just cutting other is not a solution to end this thread but

> > supporting

> > > >>> like prashant ji is a way

> > > >>> to help others if someone is trying to study.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> i was expecting aries lagna people but i guess i must post

> > this to

> > > >>> vedic

> > > >>> astro forum because last

> > > >>> year when i asked something abt virgo lagna people who

faced

> > problem

> > > >>> when

> > > >>> jupiter (badhak)

> > > >>> transitted to their lagna.

> > > >>> and i was supported by all members whoever had some charts

or

> > contacts

> > > >>> they also mailed me and

> > > >>> tryed to look out members who were virgo lagna.

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> i am giving a few charts in my record. and i will post a

few

> > after

> > > >>> getting their details.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> 1. - 26 : 11 : 1981 4.08 Pm Jaipur ( male)

> > > >>> 2. - 19 april 1980, 7.20 am, Pali (female)

> > > >>> 3. - 7 nov-1977 - 5.10 pm New delhi ( female )

> > > >>> 4. - 20 jan 1983, gangapur city,12.20 Pm (male)

> > > >>> 5. - 9 : may : 1978 , 5.55 am ,gazipur(male)

> > > >>> 6. 12-sept-1973 - 9.10 pm - Gwalior ( Female)

> > > >>> 7. 4 may 1980... delhi... 5.30 am

> > > >>>

> > > >>> these all are aries langa people.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> these all are in my frend circle so i talked abt all of

them

> > and so i

> > > >>> put

> > > >>> this among all of you.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> there are a few more frends of mine who are aries lagna

> > people but i

> > > >>> dont

> > > >>> have their data so i

> > > >>> have contacted them for the details.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> you can observe the charts and can make a conclusion.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Thanks and Regards

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Tarun

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> --- ~~Tarun~~ <tarun_vst@> wrote:

> > > >>>

> > > >>>> Dear Prashant ji,

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Grateful to be guided by you.

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> this is a very nice chart.some problems like Her mars is

in

> > 7th house

> > > >>>> with ketu.

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

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>

>

>

> Prashantkumar G B

>

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group but

> off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone.

> Please fix times for this in advance -*-

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>

>

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