Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Dear Prafulla ji, I can strictly say that Retrograde planet turns malefic but it too depends on horoscope conditins like many people got married last year when both saturn and mars were retrograde.who were not getting married ofr loong so i m not saying that every mesh lagna person felt like hell after thsi jupiter retro. i m asking for a general opinion of people aabt Guru's ill effect in their 7th house. you have leo lagna so you cannt say abt the observations right now. I have asked more than 10 people in my circle who have aries lagna and they are feeling like hell after jupiter retro concerning their married life. Thanks and Best Regards. Tarun --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Tarun ji > > We are talking about retrogression in transit..not in janma chart. > > Retrogression at birth got to be read differently than in transit. Yes, retrogression can > inflict some weakness, when planet is in exaltation sign. But has different characterisitics > than just being weak (not necessarily malefic). I do not agree with the theory that, > retrogression brings malefic nature to front. For example - guru is retrograde, u mean it turns > to malefic for mesha lagna. For mesha lagna, guru is good being 9th lord (placed in 11th from > its sign). Guru being debilitated, often do get lots of its results in different way (many > people to delay factors as well ... I do not) - native has extra powers to understand > hidden factors relating to guru. Let us take an example - my own chart - guru being exalted in > retrograde in 12th house (simha lagna being 5th lord) - it did not delay / deny any of its > natural signification (March 8, 1967; 17.40 Ist; 73E04 / 26N 17). > > Debilitation does not make a planet krur..it makes it weak. On Retrogression, there is > interesting compilation of notes by Ignis (under supervision of Late Shri MC Jain). BTW, in > transit, retrogression warrants the task to be completed before it turns direct; else it has > high probability of being reversed. > > Retrogression of guru will not afflict marital happiness. Yes, saturn's aspect in transit on > Mesha can be a challenge. > > Is Guru bad in 7th house for marital happiness as thumb rule? Not in my perspective. and > absolutely not for Mesha Lagna. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. > > > > > > tarun_vst > > Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:41:51 +0100 (BST) > > > > RE: Are all Aries Lagna people facing problems in marriage > > ????? > > > > Dear Prafulla ji, > > > > Do u hve anyone who is aries lagna. if yes you can ask him is he facing > > problem > > i hope you know the concept of retrogression. As if a planet is > > retrograde it shows effects as of > > debilation. and guru is called as bad for marriage and therefore its > > placement in 7th house is not > > acceptable for a healthy marriage. > > > > When a planet is retrograde even in own sign or exalation or debilation > > it behaves like it is > > Krura means debilated. > > > > since it is in 7th house so its retrogression is causin problems. > > > > let the Aries lagna people reply ..you can automatically get the answer > > for this > > > > Thanks and Regards > > > > tarun > > > > > > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > > > >> Dear Tarun ji > >> > >> How will retrogression of any planet (inclusive of guru) affect the > >> house? Guru being tenent in > >> 7th house - for aries lagna, it is 9th lord in 7th. So what is te > >> problem? > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the > >> world safe for diversity. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> tarun_vst > >>> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:02:26 +0100 (BST) > >>> > >>> Are all Aries Lagna people facing problems in marriage > >>> ????? > >>> > >>> Dear Members, > >>> > >>> Since jupiter is retrograde in libra, i guess all aries lagna people > >>> are > >>> having tough time in > >>> relationships with their spouse or partners. > >>> > >>> please reply if you feel the disturbance only after jupiter retrograde > >>> ,those having problems from > >>> long time please dont disturb this thread. > >>> > >>> Thanks and Regards > >>> > >>> Tarun > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ________ > >>> India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new > >>> http://in.answers./ > >> > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new > > http://in.answers./ > > __________ > 100% Spam Free Email - Get FREE 2GB Email with Challenge/Response feature! > Get your free email account at http://www.inbox.com/spam ! > ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Dear Prafulla ji Very grateful to be supported by you. i hope you will help me in finding out the ill effects of jupiter when it is retrograde in 7th house. Thanks tarun --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Tarun ji > > I differ in appling retrogression in transit like in birth chart. The example quoted was to put > a point that retrogression, does not necessarily make it krur. and I to the special > characterisitics a retrograde planet may indicate in birth chart...in transit, the retrogression > needs to be read with retrogression / direct mode at birth chart. > > Jupiter does not like being in Libra..it is true..however, it gets its own constellation as > well, so jupiter does not feel very uneasy being there for entire 30' kshetra. > > Yes, I am observing Aries lagna Charts..and the challenges are there for saturn's transit in > cancer..aspecting mesha..mars aspecting tula rashi too and it is compounded by mars being with > saturn; and then joined by mercury into cancer (being 6th lord and 3rd lord). I am not > questioning the problems, but am questioning the factors for it. > > If you further drill it down (this was discussed on another thread sometime back)..jupiter is > with ketu in D9 ..so jupiter is stressed a bit for materialitic relations. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. > > > > > > tarun_vst > > Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:51:24 +0100 (BST) > > > > RE: Are all Aries Lagna people facing problems in marriage > > ?????-- prafulla ji > > > > Dear Prafulla ji, > > > > I can strictly say that Retrograde planet turns malefic but it too > > depends on horoscope conditins > > > > like many people got married last year when both saturn and mars were > > retrograde.who were not > > getting married ofr loong > > > > > > so i m not saying that every mesh lagna person felt like hell after thsi > > jupiter retro. > > > > i m asking for a general opinion of people aabt Guru's ill effect in > > their 7th house. > > > > > > you have leo lagna so you cannt say abt the observations right now. > > > > I have asked more than 10 people in my circle who have aries lagna and > > they are feeling like hell > > after jupiter retro concerning their married life. > > > > > > Thanks and Best Regards. > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > > > >> Dear Tarun ji > >> > >> We are talking about retrogression in transit..not in janma chart. > >> > >> Retrogression at birth got to be read differently than in transit. Yes, > >> retrogression can > >> inflict some weakness, when planet is in exaltation sign. But has > >> different characterisitics > >> than just being weak (not necessarily malefic). I do not agree with the > >> theory that, > >> retrogression brings malefic nature to front. For example - guru is > >> retrograde, u mean it turns > >> to malefic for mesha lagna. For mesha lagna, guru is good being 9th lord > >> (placed in 11th from > >> its sign). Guru being debilitated, often do get lots of its results in > >> different way (many > >> people to delay factors as well ... I do not) - native has > >> extra powers to understand > >> hidden factors relating to guru. Let us take an example - my own chart - > >> guru being exalted in > >> retrograde in 12th house (simha lagna being 5th lord) - it did not delay > >> / deny any of its > >> natural signification (March 8, 1967; 17.40 Ist; 73E04 / 26N 17). > >> > >> Debilitation does not make a planet krur..it makes it weak. On > >> Retrogression, there is > >> interesting compilation of notes by Ignis (under supervision of Late > >> Shri MC Jain). BTW, in > >> transit, retrogression warrants the task to be completed before it turns > >> direct; else it has > >> high probability of being reversed. > >> > >> Retrogression of guru will not afflict marital happiness. Yes, saturn's > >> aspect in transit on > >> Mesha can be a challenge. > >> > >> Is Guru bad in 7th house for marital happiness as thumb rule? Not in my > >> perspective. and > >> absolutely not for Mesha Lagna. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the > >> world safe for diversity. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> tarun_vst > >>> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:41:51 +0100 (BST) > >>> > >>> RE: Are all Aries Lagna people facing problems in > >>> marriage > >>> ????? > >>> > >>> Dear Prafulla ji, > >>> > >>> Do u hve anyone who is aries lagna. if yes you can ask him is he facing > >>> problem > >>> i hope you know the concept of retrogression. As if a planet is > >>> retrograde it shows effects as of > >>> debilation. and guru is called as bad for marriage and therefore its > >>> placement in 7th house is not > >>> acceptable for a healthy marriage. > >>> > >>> When a planet is retrograde even in own sign or exalation or debilation > >>> it behaves like it is > >>> Krura means debilated. > >>> > >>> since it is in 7th house so its retrogression is causin problems. > >>> > >>> let the Aries lagna people reply ..you can automatically get the answer > >>> for this > >>> > >>> Thanks and Regards > >>> > >>> tarun > >>> > >>> > >>> --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear Tarun ji > >>>> > >>>> How will retrogression of any planet (inclusive of guru) affect the > >>>> house? Guru being tenent in > >>>> 7th house - for aries lagna, it is 9th lord in 7th. So what is te > >>>> problem? > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the > >>>> world safe for diversity. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> tarun_vst > >>>>> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 05:02:26 +0100 (BST) > >>>>> > >>>>> Are all Aries Lagna people facing problems in marriage > >>>>> ????? > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Members, > >>>>> > >>>>> Since jupiter is retrograde in libra, i guess all aries lagna people > >>>>> are > >>>>> having tough time in > >>>>> relationships with their spouse or partners. > >>>>> > >>>>> please reply if you feel the disturbance only after jupiter > >>>>> retrograde > >>>>> ,those having problems from > >>>>> long time please dont disturb this thread. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks and Regards > >>>>> > >>>>> Tarun > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ________ > >>>>> India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new > >>>>> http://in.answers./ > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ________ > >>> India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new > >>> http://in.answers./ > >> > >> __________ > >> 100% Spam Free Email - Get FREE 2GB Email with Challenge/Response > >> feature! > >> Get your free email account at http://www.inbox.com/spam ! > >> > > > > > === message truncated === ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Dear prafulla ji, i will ask you to arragne data of some Aries lagna native who are married. otherwise convincing me is useless in this regard. Thanks Tarun --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Tarun ji > > BTW, I do not confer to your theory of retrograde jupiter to mesha natives. Yes, I agree to the > problems / challenges for the factors, I perceive to be causing them. In my astrological > interpretation, I do not get carried by the retrogression / exaltation factors - except using > them for strength and the characterisitics implied. I may be wrong, and I am open to correction. > Somehow, I feel that in transit..just drill to divisional chart too..and see if the affliction > is really going to be persisiting or not. Also, the role of planet for a lagna. > > If you look at past few months transit - at various levels, challenges were of little longer > duration - jupiter was in constant aspect by rahu / saturn; saturn was in aspect by rahu.. These > conficting association (coupled with retrogression of saturn / guru etc)..somehow..lead to > reversals if tasks not completed by change of direction (that is why once sow moving planets are > retrograde, one must undertake short term tasks). Somehow, it requires little more understanding > and balancing of traits to take advantage of situations and meet the challenges. > > > Many thanks to you too, for an interesting thread. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. > > > > > > tarun_vst > > Thu, 29 Jun 2006 12:18:13 +0100 (BST) > > > > RE: Are all Aries Lagna people facing problems in marriage > > ?????-- prafulla ji > > > > Dear Prafulla ji > > > > Very grateful to be supported by you. > > > > i hope you will help me in finding out the ill effects of jupiter when it > > is retrograde in 7th > > house. > > > > Thanks > > tarun > > > > > > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > > > >> Dear Tarun ji > >> > >> I differ in appling retrogression in transit like in birth chart. The > >> example quoted was to put > >> a point that retrogression, does not necessarily make it krur. and I > >> to the special > >> characterisitics a retrograde planet may indicate in birth chart...in > >> transit, the retrogression > >> needs to be read with retrogression / direct mode at birth chart. > >> > >> Jupiter does not like being in Libra..it is true..however, it gets its > >> own constellation as > >> well, so jupiter does not feel very uneasy being there for entire 30' > >> kshetra. > >> > >> Yes, I am observing Aries lagna Charts..and the challenges are there for > >> saturn's transit in > >> cancer..aspecting mesha..mars aspecting tula rashi too and it is > >> compounded by mars being with > >> saturn; and then joined by mercury into cancer (being 6th lord and 3rd > >> lord). I am not > >> questioning the problems, but am questioning the factors for it. > >> > >> If you further drill it down (this was discussed on another thread > >> sometime back)..jupiter is > >> with ketu in D9 ..so jupiter is stressed a bit for materialitic > >> relations. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the > >> world safe for diversity. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> tarun_vst > >>> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:51:24 +0100 (BST) > >>> > >>> RE: Are all Aries Lagna people facing problems in > >>> marriage > >>> ?????-- prafulla ji > >>> > >>> Dear Prafulla ji, > >>> > >>> I can strictly say that Retrograde planet turns malefic but it too > >>> depends on horoscope conditins > >>> > >>> like many people got married last year when both saturn and mars were > >>> retrograde.who were not > >>> getting married ofr loong > >>> > >>> > >>> so i m not saying that every mesh lagna person felt like hell after > >>> thsi > >>> jupiter retro. > >>> > >>> i m asking for a general opinion of people aabt Guru's ill effect in > >>> their 7th house. > >>> > >>> > >>> you have leo lagna so you cannt say abt the observations right now. > >>> > >>> I have asked more than 10 people in my circle who have aries lagna and > >>> they are feeling like hell > >>> after jupiter retro concerning their married life. > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks and Best Regards. > >>> Tarun > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear Tarun ji > >>>> > >>>> We are talking about retrogression in transit..not in janma chart. > >>>> > >>>> Retrogression at birth got to be read differently than in transit. > >>>> Yes, > >>>> retrogression can > >>>> inflict some weakness, when planet is in exaltation sign. But has > >>>> different characterisitics > >>>> than just being weak (not necessarily malefic). I do not agree with > >>>> the > >>>> theory that, > >>>> retrogression brings malefic nature to front. For example - guru is > >>>> retrograde, u mean it turns > >>>> to malefic for mesha lagna. For mesha lagna, guru is good being 9th > >>>> lord > >>>> (placed in 11th from > >>>> its sign). Guru being debilitated, often do get lots of its results in > >>>> different way (many > >>>> people to delay factors as well ... I do not) - native has > >>>> extra powers to understand > >>>> hidden factors relating to guru. Let us take an example - my own chart > >>>> - > >>>> guru being exalted in > >>>> retrograde in 12th house (simha lagna being 5th lord) - it did not > >>>> delay > >>>> / deny any of its > >>>> natural signification (March 8, 1967; 17.40 Ist; 73E04 / 26N 17). > >>>> > >>>> Debilitation does not make a planet krur..it makes it weak. On > >>>> Retrogression, there is > >>>> interesting compilation of notes by Ignis (under supervision of Late > >>>> Shri MC Jain). BTW, in > >>>> transit, retrogression warrants the task to be completed before it > >>>> turns > >>>> direct; else it has > >>>> high probability of being reversed. > >>>> > >>>> Retrogression of guru will not afflict marital happiness. Yes, > >>>> saturn's > >>>> aspect in transit on > >>>> Mesha can be a challenge. > >>>> > >>>> Is Guru bad in 7th house for marital happiness as thumb rule? Not in > >>>> my > >>>> perspective. and > >>>> absolutely not for Mesha Lagna. > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the > >>>> world safe for diversity. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> tarun_vst > >>>>> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 09:41:51 +0100 (BST) > >>>>> > >>>>> RE: Are all Aries Lagna people facing problems in > >>>>> marriage > >>>>> ????? > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Prafulla ji, > >>>>> > >>>>> Do u hve anyone who is aries lagna. if yes you can ask him is he > >>>>> facing > >>>>> problem > >>>>> i hope you know the concept of retrogression. As if a planet is > >>>>> retrograde it shows effects as of > >>>>> debilation. and guru is called as bad for marriage and therefore its > >>>>> placement in 7th house is not > >>>>> acceptable for a healthy marriage. > >>>>> > >>>>> When a planet is retrograde even in own sign or exalation or > >>>>> debilation > >>>>> it behaves like it is > >>>>> Krura means debilated. > >>>>> > >>>>> since it is in 7th house so its retrogression is causin problems. > === message truncated === ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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