Gayatri Mantra: Text with Intonation and MP3

[Guest guest]

Dear Srivastava ji,

 

I don't know what you mean by "unclear". Were you expecting a chanting of the Gayatri mantra? As I said, I cannot do that. It is only a *humming* of the mantra, so that you get the intonation (ups, downs and stresses) right. You can't hear the text, you only here the "tune", so to say.

 

This was purposely done.

 

Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

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-------------------------------

 

> Swami Diavyga <swami_rcs wrote:

> Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah.

> Dear PVR ji

> Nameste,

> Mp3 appears unclear may need re-upload.

> Thanks for your beautiful effort to convey about

> secrets of chanting it correctly.

> Hari OM Tatsat

>

> R.C.Srivastava.

-

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

sjcBoston ; ; sohamsa ; vedic astrology

Monday, June 26, 2006 12:29 AM

Gayatri Mantra: Text with Intonation and MP3

 

 

Namaste friends,

 

I am enclosing the Rigvedic Savitri Gayatri mantra below. It has swara (intonation notation) also. This is a photo I took of a page in a book of Vedic chants ("Mantra Pushpam") published by Ramakrishna Mutt. I hope the picture is not removed from the mail by . If it is omitted, please download from

 

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/mantras/sgayatri.jpg

 

 

What is in the picture above ("tatsavitur...prachodayaat") is the actual Gayatri mantra in Rigveda. We add some things at the beginning and at the end. The way I was taught by my guru is this:

 

(1) Say "Om BhoorBhuvasSuvah" ONCE at the beginning (if you were initialized thus by a guru. Else, directly go to step 2).

(2) Then say "Om", followed by the actual Gayatri mantra (given in the enclosed picture) and again "Om".

(3) Keep repeating the sequence in (2) as many times as you want (e.g. 1,080 times or 108 times).

 

Swami Vivekananda, in his book "Raja Yoga", advised to add "Om" at the beginning and at the end of Gayatri mantra. This is consistent with what I wrote in (2) above. Even if you were taught with "Om BhoorbhuvasSuvah", my advice is to say it only once and to repeat "Om ...Gayatri mantra... Om" only.

 

Swami Vivekananda advised to do it with Paranayama - one Gayatri during pooraka (inhalation), one Gayatri during kumbhaka (holding) and one Gayatri during rechaka (exhalation). To start with, it may be a good idea to omit kumbhaka and do two Gayatris per one breathing cycle. In fact, it may be easy if you don't tie chanting with pranayama at all when you start out.

 

* * *

 

As I said earlier, I cannot pronounce Gayatri mantra loud and give mp3 as requested by some people. However, I have permission to hum it (without the actual text, but with the right intonation) and upload the mp3. If you read the text in the enclosed picture as you listen to the humming, the ups and downs (and the basic tune) should become clearer. Please listen to the humming at:

 

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/mantras/sgayatri.mp3

 

Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

Narasimha

[Guest guest]

Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah.

Dear PVR ji

Nameste, nice of you,

Your explanation is helping me to undestand now I will

try to apprehend for I have Recordings in MP3 of Sri Satya Sai baba where he

himself chanted for long the Gyatri mantra.

In my family parampara strangly chanting of Gyatri is banned for some

unknown reason before marriage .Yagnopaviti is done at time of Marriage and

it is not obligatory to adhere to it.

I had great fascination for Gyatri Mantra . I received education in

Aryasamaj School where daily Yagna used to be done.I was ardent follower in

my childhood.

Only it was your post that made me aware that , Saibaba recital is very near

to actual recital approved by parampara.

I still love Gyatri mantra and usually recite after my Diksha mantra mostly.

I am really thankful to your revelation to the extent it is permitted in

your parampara..

Thankyou.

----------------------

( R.C.Srivastava)Consulting Astrologer.

http://www.cosmograce.com

http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com.

Mob 91- 9412268768

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha Namaste

 

I really dont want to be misunderstood but cant resist asking, why

are you doing this? Your tradition does not allow you to recite

Gayatri(loudly in public ). Possibly in your tradition concept of

GuruMukha is practiced.So lets respect your tradition. Now with this

humming you have almost given correct(according to your tradition)

way of recitation of Gayatri. So your intention in *humming*(and

making it public) was clearly to let everybody know correct way of

reciting Gayatri. Does your tradition allow this? What I maen to say

is that your Sukshama(intention,desire) was against your tradition

and your Sthula(Humming) was not exactly against your tradition.

What will happen if tomorrow Sthula goes against tradition but

Sukshma remains with tradition!

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr wrote:

>

> Dear Srivastava ji,

>

> I don't know what you mean by "unclear". Were you expecting a

chanting of the Gayatri mantra? As I said, I cannot do that. It is

only a *humming* of the mantra, so that you get the intonation (ups,

downs and stresses) right. You can't hear the text, you only here

the "tune", so to say.

>

> This was purposely done.

>

> Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------------

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------------

>

> > Swami Diavyga <swami_rcs@> wrote:

> > Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah.

> > Dear PVR ji

> > Nameste,

> > Mp3 appears unclear may need re-upload.

> > Thanks for your beautiful effort to convey about

> > secrets of chanting it correctly.

> > Hari OM Tatsat

> >

> > R.C.Srivastava.

> -

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

> sjcBoston ; ;

sohamsa ; vedic astrology

> Monday, June 26, 2006 12:29 AM

> Gayatri Mantra: Text with Intonation and MP3

>

>

> Namaste friends,

>

> I am enclosing the Rigvedic Savitri Gayatri mantra below. It has

swara (intonation notation) also. This is a photo I took of a page in

a book of Vedic chants ("Mantra Pushpam") published by Ramakrishna

Mutt. I hope the picture is not removed from the mail by . If it

is omitted, please download from

>

> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/mantras/sgayatri.jpg

>

>

> What is in the picture above ("tatsavitur...prachodayaat") is the

actual Gayatri mantra in Rigveda. We add some things at the beginning

and at the end. The way I was taught by my guru is this:

>

> (1) Say "Om BhoorBhuvasSuvah" ONCE at the beginning (if you were

initialized thus by a guru. Else, directly go to step 2).

> (2) Then say "Om", followed by the actual Gayatri mantra (given

in the enclosed picture) and again "Om".

> (3) Keep repeating the sequence in (2) as many times as you want

(e.g. 1,080 times or 108 times).

>

> Swami Vivekananda, in his book "Raja Yoga", advised to add "Om"

at the beginning and at the end of Gayatri mantra. This is consistent

with what I wrote in (2) above. Even if you were taught with "Om

BhoorbhuvasSuvah", my advice is to say it only once and to

repeat "Om ...Gayatri mantra... Om" only.

>

> Swami Vivekananda advised to do it with Paranayama - one Gayatri

during pooraka (inhalation), one Gayatri during kumbhaka (holding)

and one Gayatri during rechaka (exhalation). To start with, it may be

a good idea to omit kumbhaka and do two Gayatris per one breathing

cycle. In fact, it may be easy if you don't tie chanting with

pranayama at all when you start out.

>

> * * *

>

> As I said earlier, I cannot pronounce Gayatri mantra loud and

give mp3 as requested by some people. However, I have permission to

hum it (without the actual text, but with the right intonation) and

upload the mp3. If you read the text in the enclosed picture as you

listen to the humming, the ups and downs (and the basic tune) should

become clearer. Please listen to the humming at:

>

> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/mantras/sgayatri.mp3

>

> Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

> Narasimha

>

>

[Guest guest]

Prabodh Vekhande <amolmandar > wrote: Dear Narasimha Namaste

 

I really dont want to be misunderstood but cant resist asking, why

are you doing this? Your tradition does not allow you to recite

Gayatri(loudly in public ). Possibly in your tradition concept of

GuruMukha is practiced.So lets respect your tradition. Now with this

humming you have almost given correct(according to your tradition)

way of recitation of Gayatri. So your intention in *humming*(and

making it public) was clearly to let everybody know correct way of

reciting Gayatri. Does your tradition allow this? What I maen to say

is that your Sukshama(intention,desire) was against your tradition

and your Sthula(Humming) was not exactly against your tradition.

What will happen if tomorrow Sthula goes against tradition but

Sukshma remains with tradition!

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr wrote:

>

> Dear Srivastava ji,

>

> I don't know what you mean by "unclear". Were you expecting a

chanting of the Gayatri mantra? As I said, I cannot do that. It is

only a *humming* of the mantra, so that you get the intonation (ups,

downs and stresses) right. You can't hear the text, you only here

the "tune", so to say.

>

> This was purposely done.

>

> Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

> Narasimha

> -------------------------

> Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

> Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

> -------------------------

>

> > Swami Diavyga <swami_rcs@> wrote:

> > Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah.

> > Dear PVR ji

> > Nameste,

> > Mp3 appears unclear may need re-upload.

> > Thanks for your beautiful effort to convey about

> > secrets of chanting it correctly.

> > Hari OM Tatsat

> >

> > R.C.Srivastava.

> -

> Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

> sjcBoston ; ;

sohamsa ; vedic astrology

> Monday, June 26, 2006 12:29 AM

> Gayatri Mantra: Text with Intonation and MP3

>

>

> Namaste friends,

>

> I am enclosing the Rigvedic Savitri Gayatri mantra below. It has

swara (intonation notation) also. This is a photo I took of a page in

a book of Vedic chants ("Mantra Pushpam") published by Ramakrishna

Mutt. I hope the picture is not removed from the mail by . If it

is omitted, please download from

>

> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/mantras/sgayatri.jpg

>

>

> What is in the picture above ("tatsavitur...prachodayaat") is the

actual Gayatri mantra in Rigveda. We add some things at the beginning

and at the end. The way I was taught by my guru is this:

>

> (1) Say "Om BhoorBhuvasSuvah" ONCE at the beginning (if you were

initialized thus by a guru. Else, directly go to step 2).

> (2) Then say "Om", followed by the actual Gayatri mantra (given

in the enclosed picture) and again "Om".

> (3) Keep repeating the sequence in (2) as many times as you want

(e.g. 1,080 times or 108 times).

>

> Swami Vivekananda, in his book "Raja Yoga", advised to add "Om"

at the beginning and at the end of Gayatri mantra. This is consistent

with what I wrote in (2) above. Even if you were taught with "Om

BhoorbhuvasSuvah", my advice is to say it only once and to

repeat "Om ...Gayatri mantra... Om" only.

>

> Swami Vivekananda advised to do it with Paranayama - one Gayatri

during pooraka (inhalation), one Gayatri during kumbhaka (holding)

and one Gayatri during rechaka (exhalation). To start with, it may be

a good idea to omit kumbhaka and do two Gayatris per one breathing

cycle. In fact, it may be easy if you don't tie chanting with

pranayama at all when you start out.

>

> * * *

>

> As I said earlier, I cannot pronounce Gayatri mantra loud and

give mp3 as requested by some people. However, I have permission to

hum it (without the actual text, but with the right intonation) and

upload the mp3. If you read the text in the enclosed picture as you

listen to the humming, the ups and downs (and the basic tune) should

become clearer. Please listen to the humming at:

>

> http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/mantras/sgayatri.mp3

>

> Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

> Narasimha

>

>

[Guest guest]

dear friends

 

with due apologies to the sentiments of some orthodox hardliners, i

submit as follows:

 

the gayatri mantra as is known to the world today is "invented" by

a non-brahmin i.e. viswamitra who was a kshatriya who did several

killings. later in competition to vashista and penance for his

killings, he did tapas and became a rishi.

 

traidition is that a father gives this mantra to his son secretely

in the ear at the time of thread marriage (upanayan). however, this

mantra is not prohibited to be speaken out loudly nor was restricted

only to brahmins nor any pre-requisites laid down before attempting

to recite this. even while the orthodox brahmins strived to

suppress this mantra by restricting it only to their sons, the arya

samaj has done more publicity and not only crores of arya samajis

chant it daily including men, women, children of all castes but also

play it loudly every morning. it is no exaggeration if i say that

most aryasamajis recite this gayatri mantra on a daily basis and i

dont comment on others as it is known to all. currently in all

Indian TV channels, Videocon is playing an advertisement where the

gayatri mantra is recited loudly by all religious people across the

world.

 

Pandit shreeram sharma acharya has written various books and

publicised this gayatri mantra across the world and also dispelled

various myths and restrictions on this holy mantra which can be

found more in thier website link given below

http://www.awgp.org

 

i have been recommending various people of all religions to recite

gayatri mantra without any restrictions or fear.

 

the objective of the mantra itself is to praise the light and invoke

the light and dispel the darkness. at least i will not obfuscate

this mantra itself by putting it into dark, for it is the mantra

made for all human beings by king viswamitra, not limited to few

brahmins.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

 

vedic astrology, "Swami Diavyga"

<swami_rcs wrote:

>

>

> Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah.

> Dear PVR ji

> Nameste, nice of you,

> Your explanation is helping me to undestand now I will

> try to apprehend for I have Recordings in MP3 of Sri Satya Sai

baba where he

> himself chanted for long the Gyatri mantra.

> In my family parampara strangly chanting of Gyatri is banned for

some

> unknown reason before marriage .Yagnopaviti is done at time of

Marriage and

> it is not obligatory to adhere to it.

> I had great fascination for Gyatri Mantra . I received education

in

> Aryasamaj School where daily Yagna used to be done.I was ardent

follower in

> my childhood.

> Only it was your post that made me aware that , Saibaba recital is

very near

> to actual recital approved by parampara.

> I still love Gyatri mantra and usually recite after my Diksha

mantra mostly.

> I am really thankful to your revelation to the extent it is

permitted in

> your parampara..

> Thankyou.

> ----------------------

> ( R.C.Srivastava)Consulting Astrologer.

> http://www.cosmograce.com

> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com.

> Mob 91- 9412268768

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Pandit Arjun ji,

 

> the gayatri mantra as is known to the world today is "invented" by

> a non-brahmin i.e. viswamitra who was a kshatriya who did several

 

Well-said, but a small correction. Viswamitra did not "invent" it. We believe that Veda mantras are not invented by anyone. They are always there and are revealed to rishis.

 

> however, this

> mantra is not prohibited to be speaken out loudly nor was restricted

> only to brahmins nor any pre-requisites laid down before attempting

> to recite this.

 

I completely agree that this mantra is not restricted to Brahmanas. In fact, one does not become a "Brahmana" just by being born to parents who are supposedly Brahmanas. On the other hand, if a person born in a supposedly lowly caste reads a few malas of Gayatri mantra with the correct intonation everyday, he WILL eventually become a Brahmana. He WILL slowly develop all the qualities attributed to a Brahmana.

 

If one reads 10 malas (or even 2-3 malas) of Gayatri mantra everyday with the *correct intonation*, definitely one's life is transformed and spiritual progress comes very fast to him/her. One becomes a true Brahmana.

 

> i have been recommending various people of all religions to recite

> gayatri mantra without any restrictions or fear.

 

Why should there be fear? If you have a mantra that can be abused, you should be careful in spreading it. A mantra that opens the internal eyes and slowly awakens one to the knowledge of Atman (soul - true self) has no possible abuse. Even if a rogue starts reading it, he/she is only transformed into a saint. What's there to fear then?

 

Of course, one possible concern is that reading many malas of Gayatri everyday with perfect intonation is almost guaranteed to awaken one's Kundalini shakti (latent energy of self-identification that can bond one to a particular concept of self or also unlimit one when it rises). It can be extremely tough when Kundalini is crossing Swadhishthana and it can throw some challenges that many people fail in. Although one whose Kundalini is awakened through other ways can get stuck there and get into problems, I feel that Gayatri mantra prepares one well.

 

> the objective of the mantra itself is to praise the light and invoke

> the light and dispel the darkness. at least i will not obfuscate

> this mantra itself by putting it into dark, for it is the mantra

> made for all human beings by king viswamitra, not limited to few

> brahmins.

 

Absolutely.

 

Unfortunately, we are living in Kali yuga and Kali is only getting denser and denser. If a rishi takes birth in these times, even he may have to struggle to find the correct direction. False knowledge, corrupt knowledge and illusions are found everywhere. More than 99% people who are born in spiritual families and are taught Gayatri mantra do not chant it everyday and don't even know how to pronounce it perfectly. It's a terrible situation and you can expect it to only get worse.

 

Who knows if you will get moksha or will have to come back to this earth after, say, 100 or 300 years? Imagine how earth will be then, if some brakes are not applied on Kali every now and then!

 

If you light a small lamp in some small corner of the world while you are here, you yourself may benefit from that lamp a few hundred years later when you come back!

 

That's why I honestly don't feel that I am doing any favor to anybody by sharing what I know. I am only helping myself!

 

Dear Prabodh ji,

 

> I really dont want to be misunderstood but cant resist asking, why

> are you doing this? Your tradition does not allow you to recite

> Gayatri(loudly in public ). Possibly in your tradition concept of

> GuruMukha is practiced.So lets respect your tradition. Now with this

> humming you have almost given correct(according to your tradition)

> way of recitation of Gayatri. So your intention in *humming*(and

> making it public) was clearly to let everybody know correct way of

> reciting Gayatri. Does your tradition allow this? What I maen to say

> is that your Sukshama(intention,desire) was against your tradition

> and your Sthula(Humming) was not exactly against your tradition.

> What will happen if tomorrow Sthula goes against tradition but

> Sukshma remains with tradition!

 

I specifically took my guru's permission to record the humming of the mantra. That is why it took a few days.

 

I never had a problem in letting "everybody know correct way of reciting Gayatri". The issue for me or my tradition was never secrecy. As I said, what stopped me was the belief that saying a mantra with vaikhari robs it of some of its power. I don't want/need any results from any mantra, but I do want (and did get) some results from Gayatri mantra. So I want to continue to follow the teachings of tradition to maintain its efficacy. But the intention was not to hide it or make it difficult for people.

 

Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

Narasimha

-------------------------------

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net

Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org

-------------------------------

[Guest guest]

On 6/30/06, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

 

> > however, this

> > mantra is not prohibited to be speaken out loudly nor was restricted

> > only to brahmins nor any pre-requisites laid down before attempting

> > to recite this.

 

Dear Narasimha garu,

 

> I completely agree that this mantra is not restricted to Brahmanas. In fact, one does not

> become a "Brahmana" just by being born to parents who are supposedly Brahmanas.

> On the other hand, if a person born in a supposedly lowly caste reads a few malas of

> Gayatri mantra with the correct intonation everyday, he WILL eventually become a

> Brahmana. He WILL slowly develop all the qualities attributed to a Brahmana.

 

Is that the position of your tradition? Which tradition is that? As

far as I know of the classical vedantic traditions, the adhikAra to

chant Gayatri mantra is only with the dvijas or traivarNikas (the

first three varNas). The last varNa (i refuse to call it 'lowly') is

not allowed. ALL commentaries on the apashUdrAdhikaraNa of

Brahmasutras bear testimony to this fact. The story of Matanga Rishi's

previous birth, as depicted in the shAnti parva of mahAbhArata adds

support. Sri Vedavyasa is said to have composed Mahabharata because it

would help veda-anadhikAri. Of course, all of these are ignored these

days by many (gauDIyas for example), but it was bit ironical that you

wrote the above in the same mail that you lament about the

degeneration kaliyuga brings in.

 

Regards,

Krishna

[Guest guest]

dear narasimha ji

 

your replacement of the word "invented" with "revealed" is proper

and i fully appreciate your realistic reckoning of all humans

equally getting benefited by this powerful gayatri mantra without

any caste bias.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao"

<pvr wrote:

>

> Dear Pandit Arjun ji,

>

> > the gayatri mantra as is known to the world today is "invented"

by

> > a non-brahmin i.e. viswamitra who was a kshatriya who did

several

>

> Well-said, but a small correction. Viswamitra did not "invent" it.

We believe that Veda mantras are not invented by anyone. They are

always there and are revealed to rishis.

>

> > however, this

> > mantra is not prohibited to be speaken out loudly nor was

restricted

> > only to brahmins nor any pre-requisites laid down before

attempting

> > to recite this.

>

> I completely agree that this mantra is not restricted to

Brahmanas. In fact, one does not become a "Brahmana" just by being

born to parents who are supposedly Brahmanas. On the other hand, if

a person born in a supposedly lowly caste reads a few malas of

Gayatri mantra with the correct intonation everyday, he WILL

eventually become a Brahmana. He WILL slowly develop all the

qualities attributed to a Brahmana.

>

> If one reads 10 malas (or even 2-3 malas) of Gayatri mantra

everyday with the *correct intonation*, definitely one's life is

transformed and spiritual progress comes very fast to him/her. One

becomes a true Brahmana.

>

> > i have been recommending various people of all religions to

recite

> > gayatri mantra without any restrictions or fear.

>

> Why should there be fear? If you have a mantra that can be abused,

you should be careful in spreading it. A mantra that opens the

internal eyes and slowly awakens one to the knowledge of Atman

(soul - true self) has no possible abuse. Even if a rogue starts

reading it, he/she is only transformed into a saint. What's there to

fear then?

>

> Of course, one possible concern is that reading many malas of

Gayatri everyday with perfect intonation is almost guaranteed to

awaken one's Kundalini shakti (latent energy of self-identification

that can bond one to a particular concept of self or also unlimit

one when it rises). It can be extremely tough when Kundalini is

crossing Swadhishthana and it can throw some challenges that many

people fail in. Although one whose Kundalini is awakened through

other ways can get stuck there and get into problems, I feel that

Gayatri mantra prepares one well.

>

> > the objective of the mantra itself is to praise the light and

invoke

> > the light and dispel the darkness. at least i will not

obfuscate

> > this mantra itself by putting it into dark, for it is the mantra

> > made for all human beings by king viswamitra, not limited to few

> > brahmins.

>

> Absolutely.

>

> Unfortunately, we are living in Kali yuga and Kali is only getting

denser and denser. If a rishi takes birth in these times, even he

may have to struggle to find the correct direction. False knowledge,

corrupt knowledge and illusions are found everywhere. More than 99%

people who are born in spiritual families and are taught Gayatri

mantra do not chant it everyday and don't even know how to pronounce

it perfectly. It's a terrible situation and you can expect it to

only get worse.

>

> Who knows if you will get moksha or will have to come back to this

earth after, say, 100 or 300 years? Imagine how earth will be then,

if some brakes are not applied on Kali every now and then!

>

> If you light a small lamp in some small corner of the world while

you are here, you yourself may benefit from that lamp a few hundred

years later when you come back!

>

> That's why I honestly don't feel that I am doing any favor to

anybody by sharing what I know. I am only helping myself!

>

> Dear Prabodh ji,

>

> > I really dont want to be misunderstood but cant resist asking,

why

> > are you doing this? Your tradition does not allow you to recite

> > Gayatri(loudly in public ). Possibly in your tradition concept

of

> > GuruMukha is practiced.So lets respect your tradition. Now with

this

> > humming you have almost given correct(according to your

tradition)

> > way of recitation of Gayatri. So your intention in *humming*(and

> > making it public) was clearly to let everybody know correct way

of

> > reciting Gayatri. Does your tradition allow this? What I maen to

say

> > is that your Sukshama(intention,desire) was against your

tradition

> > and your Sthula(Humming) was not exactly against your

tradition.

> > What will happen if tomorrow Sthula goes against tradition but

> > Sukshma remains with tradition!

>

> I specifically took my guru's permission to record the humming of

the mantra. That is why it took a few days.

>

> I never had a problem in letting "everybody know correct way of

reciting Gayatri". The issue for me or my tradition was never

secrecy. As I said, what stopped me was the belief that saying a

mantra with vaikhari robs it of some of its power. I don't want/need

any results from any mantra, but I do want (and did get) some

results from Gayatri mantra. So I want to continue to follow the

teachings of tradition to maintain its efficacy. But the intention

was not to hide it or make it difficult for people.

>

> Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

> Narasimha

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[Guest guest]

dear krishna garu

 

what you are referring as vedantic traditions were true in those

days when they were written. if i write how a woman shall live as

written in the smritis and puranas, every one would call me sadistic

and cruel and the National Commission for Women would take me to

task.

 

what you shall understand is that the constitution of india has been

amended several times and today you would not refer the constitution

as it was 50 years ago. similarly all Acts of laws are read with

the latest amendements. unfortunately the puranas and smritis from

where you pick up traditions have not been amended because they have

given a clear instruction to follow according to desha, kala,

vartamana paristhiti.

 

so we have to preach and practice the EXISTING PREVAILING LAWS and

not OUTDATED LAWS.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

vedic astrology, "Krishna K"

<krishna.kadiri wrote:

>

> On 6/30/06, Narasimha P.V.R. Rao <pvr wrote:

>

> > > however, this

> > > mantra is not prohibited to be speaken out loudly nor was

restricted

> > > only to brahmins nor any pre-requisites laid down before

attempting

> > > to recite this.

>

> Dear Narasimha garu,

>

> > I completely agree that this mantra is not restricted to

Brahmanas. In fact, one does not

> > become a "Brahmana" just by being born to parents who are

supposedly Brahmanas.

> > On the other hand, if a person born in a supposedly lowly caste

reads a few malas of

> > Gayatri mantra with the correct intonation everyday, he WILL

eventually become a

> > Brahmana. He WILL slowly develop all the qualities attributed to

a Brahmana.

>

> Is that the position of your tradition? Which tradition is that? As

> far as I know of the classical vedantic traditions, the adhikAra to

> chant Gayatri mantra is only with the dvijas or traivarNikas (the

> first three varNas). The last varNa (i refuse to call it 'lowly')

is

> not allowed. ALL commentaries on the apashUdrAdhikaraNa of

> Brahmasutras bear testimony to this fact. The story of Matanga

Rishi's

> previous birth, as depicted in the shAnti parva of mahAbhArata adds

> support. Sri Vedavyasa is said to have composed Mahabharata

because it

> would help veda-anadhikAri. Of course, all of these are ignored

these

> days by many (gauDIyas for example), but it was bit ironical that

you

> wrote the above in the same mail that you lament about the

> degeneration kaliyuga brings in.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Narasimha,

Can u please elaborate on what kind of results you achieved from Gayatri Mantra. Also, how long did u practice this mantra and how many times in a day.

If this answer is personal and u don't want to share please feel free to keep it with you. I will understand. I am really looking for a person who had attained results and who can guide me.

Thank you for all the pointers.

Regards

 

"Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Pandit Arjun ji,

 

> the gayatri mantra as is known to the world today is "invented" by

> a non-brahmin i.e. viswamitra who was a kshatriya who did several

 

Well-said, but a small correction. Viswamitra did not "invent" it. We believe that Veda mantras are not invented by anyone. They are always there and are revealed to rishis.

 

> however, this

> mantra is not prohibited to be speaken out loudly nor was restricted

> only to brahmins nor any pre-requisites laid down before attempting

> to recite this.

 

I completely agree that this mantra is not restricted to Brahmanas. In fact, one does not become a "Brahmana" just by being born to parents who are supposedly Brahmanas. On the other hand, if a person born in a supposedly lowly caste reads a few malas of Gayatri mantra with the correct intonation everyday, he WILL eventually become a Brahmana. He WILL slowly develop all the qualities attributed to a Brahmana.

 

If one reads 10 malas (or even 2-3 malas) of Gayatri mantra everyday with the *correct intonation*, definitely one's life is transformed and spiritual progress comes very fast to him/her. One becomes a true Brahmana.

 

> i have been recommending various people of all religions to recite

> gayatri mantra without any restrictions or fear.

 

Why should there be fear? If you have a mantra that can be abused, you should be careful in spreading it. A mantra that opens the internal eyes and slowly awakens one to the knowledge of Atman (soul - true self) has no possible abuse. Even if a rogue starts reading it, he/she is only transformed into a saint. What's there to fear then?

 

Of course, one possible concern is that reading many malas of Gayatri everyday with perfect intonation is almost guaranteed to awaken one's Kundalini shakti (latent energy of self-identification that can bond one to a particular concept of self or also unlimit one when it rises). It can be extremely tough when Kundalini is crossing Swadhishthana and it can throw some challenges that many people fail in. Although one whose Kundalini is awakened through other ways can get stuck there and get into problems, I feel that Gayatri mantra prepares one well.

 

> the objective of the mantra itself is to praise the light and invoke

> the light and dispel the darkness. at least i will not obfuscate

> this mantra itself by putting it into dark, for it is the mantra

> made for all human beings by king viswamitra, not limited to few

> brahmins.

 

Absolutely.

 

Unfortunately, we are living in Kali yuga and Kali is only getting denser and denser. If a rishi takes birth in these times, even he may have to struggle to find the correct direction. False knowledge, corrupt knowledge and illusions are found everywhere. More than 99% people who are born in spiritual families and are taught Gayatri mantra do not chant it everyday and don't even know how to pronounce it perfectly. It's a terrible situation and you can expect it to only get worse.

 

Who knows if you will get moksha or will have to come back to this earth after, say, 100 or 300 years? Imagine how earth will be then, if some brakes are not applied on Kali every now and then!

 

If you light a small lamp in some small corner of the world while you are here, you yourself may benefit from that lamp a few hundred years later when you come back!

 

That's why I honestly don't feel that I am doing any favor to anybody by sharing what I know. I am only helping myself!

 

Dear Prabodh ji,

 

> I really dont want to be misunderstood but cant resist asking, why

> are you doing this? Your tradition does not allow you to recite

> Gayatri(loudly in public ). Possibly in your tradition concept of

> GuruMukha is practiced.So lets respect your tradition. Now with this

> humming you have almost given correct(according to your tradition)

> way of recitation of Gayatri. So your intention in *humming*(and

> making it public) was clearly to let everybody know correct way of

> reciting Gayatri. Does your tradition allow this? What I maen to say

> is that your Sukshama(intention,desire) was against your tradition

> and your Sthula(Humming) was not exactly against your tradition.

> What will happen if tomorrow Sthula goes against tradition but

> Sukshma remains with tradition!

 

I specifically took my guru's permission to record the humming of the mantra. That is why it took a few days.

 

I never had a problem in letting "everybody know correct way of reciting Gayatri". The issue for me or my tradition was never secrecy. As I said, what stopped me was the belief that saying a mantra with vaikhari robs it of some of its power. I don't want/need any results from any mantra, but I do want (and did get) some results from Gayatri mantra. So I want to continue to follow the teachings of tradition to maintain its efficacy. But the intention was not to hide it or make it difficult for people.

 

Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

Narasimha

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[Guest guest]

Dear Narshimha Namaste

 

 

> I don't want/need any results >from any mantra, but I do want (and

did get) some results from Gayatri mantra.

>

> Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

> Narasimha

 

It is good to be 'selfish' for a change!

 

Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce.

 

Prabodh Vekhande

Jai Jai Shankar

Har Har Shankar

[Guest guest]

Dear PVR,

 

You had said that if the mantram loses some of its power if verbally

said. My question is - when a boy is being taught the mantram by his

guru during initiation, the mantram will have to be verbally delivered

by the guru. a) Does the mantram lose some of its power even during

intiation of a sishya b) Is there anything a guru can do to preserve

the power of the mantram specifically during initiation of a sishya. c)

Any other thoughts or knowledge you might have about this, which you

might be able to share with us?

 

Pranams

Shivakumar