Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 dear beloved brother tom.please open your heart and not your mind to what your brother wants to share with you.. in the story in the bible,"the prodigal son",one of the sons is very disturbed because he has been a faithful son and has never had any celebrative attention from his father. his father responds by telling his son that he has always been with him ,as opposed to the prodigal son that has been lost that is now found...when you say "so what", the prodigal son has returned ,you are behaving like the son who didnt get the attention that he thought that he deserved...that is common among devotees.. if your heart had truly been with the LORD all this time ,dear brother tom,you would never say something so iinsensitive,like"so what" to this life being saved by HER GRACE...a heart with a good motive would not respond such as that... before this child reached the age of seventeen,he had lost close to thirty of his friends to street violence, or ,drug overdose or something similar..there are children in this childs neighborhood that have parents that will not be home from prison ever...alll of these children of AMMA are contained in this story,IN THIS HEART.. you may not understand this..you minimized this story not realizing that thousands that have died ,"LIVE", eternally in this childs story...AMMA understands this ....AMMAs sun doesnt expect you to. there are children in this neighborhood that have parents that are cracked out and selling their bodys for drugs and you can say "so what".AMMAs sun is not mad at you.you make statements like this out of your ignorance.... temba is saying this, this time,not just for you, but for the child of AMMA who is being influenced by this "so what" attitude... you should come and spend one night in the ghetto and you would change this attitude very rapidly...some people responded by saying "good insight"brother tom,but that was good intellectual stuff.you have many good things to say,but temba will fearlessly challenge the insensitivity.. where is the heart at dear brother tom?...temba was one of the first ones,if not the first one that began seeing the positive in your post and writing responses in this way...and the best you can do is say"so what"...you dont owe this child anything ,but you owe it to yourself to be a little more kind.. AMMA has used this life story not only to open the hearts of devotees ,but most importantly inpire devotees to stretch their love a little bit...you were not there with us to see how AMMA responded to HER homeless children who recieved HER DARSHAN...you did not see brother Walter ,who has been shot up ,stabbed up and in prison a few times recieve HER HUG..tembas story is there story and there story is tembas story.if you opened your heart a little you would see that all these storys are yours as well..you see them as different.temba ,through HER GRACE, sees them as ONE..we are all reflections of the same SELF..sometimes suffering helps this vision to EXPAND... again you are forgiven by this child ,but AMMAs sun will fearlessly not allow this insensitivity to go unnoticed,because there are children who may jump on this ban wagon and think that that behavior is condoned. AMMA has said many times that SHE sympathizes with the hurts and struggles of the suffering because SHE has been there HERSELF...tembas life,tembas story is no different from that and neither is yours or anyone elses who has suffered.. those that are in tune with LOVE will always celebrate the return of ANY lost sheep...when we celebrate in this way,we are celebrating HER undying forgiveness,HER undying compassion and HER UNDYING LOVE... look around you brother tom and others,CIRCLE OF LOVE INSIDE,INNOCENT DESIRE AND NOW ??????????????????.this story ,this life is not mine,IT ALL BELONGS TO AMMA............with just a little vision this can be seen very easily........love you tom... >"temba spirits" <tembaspirits (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> >Ammachi >Ammachi >RE: Re: FYI >Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:05:24 -0500 > >dear brother tom.your brother new that you cared about him and he thanks >you >for your tuff love... > >a wise one once taught AMMAs sun that we all just do the best we can.we are >all at different levels of awareness..the mind can come up with a million >different ways to say the same thing... > >AMMA says that a compliment can be more dangerous then an insult for a >spriritual seeker.you are correct when you say what you say and AMMAs sun >thanks you for reminding him to stay LOW SO THAT HE CAN GROW... > >"GOD LOVES a contrite and humble spirit."thats one of tembas favorite >quots in the book of proverbs...JESUS said that "we cannot enter the >kingdom >of heaven unless we remain child like.".AMMA said "your innocent desire >will >happen in time." > >the bigger picture is that whatever happens to this child is not so >important..i should have died to this body some time ago,but SHE had >greater >plans for this child... > >dear brother tom,what motivates this child isnt what comes from outside of >him.its what AMMA has placed 'IN' this heart that keeps him going...what is >in this heart is what allows this child to only respond to you with love >and >gratitude for you being one of AMMAs precious forms.. > >dear brother tom,you may not know this,but your brother is IN LOVE with HER >WAYS, never to be the same again..AMMAs sun is possesed by HER >LOVE..wherever he ends up,he always ends up in HER LOVE and that is where >he >finds his dear beloved brother tom...tom you are love and through HER LOVE >,this child is able to extract the beauty from your most precious words.. > >dear brother tom,all of our lives are SACRED SCRIPTURES.some are more aware >of that then others..temba uses his life as a scripture.AMMA has given this >child this gift... > >arjunas life was used by KRSNA as scripture.GOD used all the prophets lives >as a scripture...AMMA used HER LIFE AS A SACRED SCRIPTURE to bring us >closer >to the LOVE within...the storys of the past help us to open our hearts in >the PRESENT MOMENT...this is how AMMA has used this life... > >all of our struggles and how we over came them are sacred storys...your >story is sacred..ITS ALL AMMAs LEELA .is it not?IN ESSENCE we all have the >same story...we are all one....we all are searching for the same thing.the >story is just the bridge that help us get there... > >the books that you read where just guides in order that you may one day be >guided to the truth of experience.. tom your brother bows to >AMMA within you ,but he will not bow to your ego.....your motive is tainted >but AMMA in you is still PURE AS EVER...... > >temba means: to give hope where there isnt any........if you would look >with >the eyes of awareness, you would see that that is what has happened...its >not this child .its the vibration of the name dear brother..this body is >but >a vehicle of HER word(vibration,HER temba). > >we are all given a spiritual name in order that we grow into the EMBODIMENT >of that name...you should research TOM and see what vibration you are >carrying with you.... > >lastly....AMMA chanted this childs name in his ear in SAN >RAMON...temba,temba,temba,temba,temba,ma,ma,ma,ma,ma,ma,ma,ma,ma,daughter,daugher....... > >when you know your purpose in life,you live in it.this life is not for this >child.it is to bring HOPE TO THE HOPELESS.this is the gift that AMMA has >given HER sun..the way he keeps this gift is through giving it >away(loving >tom)...love you tom... > > > > > > >"Tom" <tomgull (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> > >Ammachi > >Ammachi > > Re: FYI > >Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:39:14 -0000 > > > >Very insiteful... > > > >I'll put it in English this time: > > > >"Y'all are putting Temba on a pedastal, like y'all do Dayamrita. If > >you really cared about him, you'd be supportive of him, but stop > >praising him. Y'all are assuming, by making such repeated praises > >of "Oh, how inspiring!", that there aren't people of even greater > >inspiration. But how will you ever know... when such "small" > >stories are glorified so much? > > > >I'm sure there's many stories like Temba's out there, so why don't > >you just drop it? In the end, he'll end up attached to this drama > >and end up disappointed and disillusioned in Amma. The grace he's > >receiving now is just the typical "binding" grace that Amma gives. > >Many people waste their grace in this period, and then act surprised > >later, not really have done any sadhana to bring them to a higher > >understanding. > > > >I couldn't care less how much time someone has spent in jail or other > >activities, but it's easy to get attention from it. There's plenty > >of devotees that were very atheistic and scientific before meeting > >Amma. There's one story of a modern Catholic priest (can't remember > >his name) who wrote a book about his conversion process from being a > >playboy airline pilot, even trafficking drugs, and another famous > >priest that will tell stories of Hollywood parties before becoming a > >priest. Both talk like it's a big deal (it is for them), but they > >don't realize it's not inspiring because you basically did what you > >wanted, and partied hard before "finding God". So what, the prodigal > >son returns, yeah for Temba! > > > >tom > > > >Ammachi, Mike Brooker <patria1818 wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > FYI Tom thrives on negative energy and negative > > > > feedback - if you ignore him, like I do, then maybe > > > > he will go away again... > > > > > > Best to ignore tomgull's messages, or respond off-list > > > if you must, and avoid bandwidth-wasting flame wars. > > > Negative? What can you say about someone who only > > > sees in Temba a convicted criminal.. oh well, guess > > > Gandhi wouldn't be up to his standards either because > > > he did some time in the slammer. > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namashivaya - In Amma's service, > > > > > > > > Supriti Omenka Nnadi > > > > > > See ya in Chicago! (are you going to Toronto too?) > > > > > > > > > Keval > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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