Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ Dear Prafulla, Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct, that some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in most of the cases it is our sins of past life that result in this. Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of these evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name "Balaji" and people who have these kind of problems (black magic) go there and they are cured. Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one should not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals in which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik remedies might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people who practice taamasik rituals promising to do the thing you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short term. Like for example, if one is injured in knee and cannot walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply some very effective spray on his knee, he will not feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he may be able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will feel more pain, because he is strectching that part of body that needs rest, care, patience, healing. Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply temporary relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate, perform japam, mantra and it will go away after some time permanently. The above was just an example I took to explain Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical purposes or doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or sprays recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are medicines and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please remember this was just an example to clarify the Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies. Regards, Neeraj --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: > Dear Neeraj ji > > Many a times, a person has not done anything wrong > (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target some > of these kids to harm the natives. and I presume, > these can be resolved by competent person only; else > we are risking the life of native. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to > do is stop digging. > > > > > > gupta_neeraj_2000 > > Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT) > > > > Re: black magic after doing lot of > havan and jap why ? > > Neeraj -- Please Explain! > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > Hi, > > > > Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative > forces > > such as those practised by Tantriks for bad deeds > > (Taamasic basically). > > > > I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a bit > of > > it. However, with God's grace and with the > suggestions > > of gurus, I came to know that though these taamsic > > remedies produce almost immediate results, > however, > > you end up doing bad karma, and you have to pay > later > > (i.e. after some time, you get into more trouble, > or > > the suffering is there in some way or another). > > > > Ok. Good question that Why negative energies > exist? > > > > To be honest and true, I do not know the real or > exact > > answer. But based on my little knowledge, I see > that > > the world, human being or anything in this world > has > > both negative and positive effects. > > > > Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad deeds, > then > > how you will differentiate between good and bad. > Some > > thing is cold and the other is hot. In every yuga, > you > > will find that negative energies do exist and > people > > do taamsic things and the same is balanced by the > > saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs. cold > (some > > places are hot, while other are cold), some are > dry > > (desserts) while some areas get more rain. There > are > > some bad people who do all kinds of wrong things > and > > similarly there are pious people, sattwic people > who > > do good deeds, help others etc. > > > > Like it is said that in the army of Shiva, there > are > > lots of Ghosts, pischaach, etc which we consider > as > > negative energies. Hence, if any native is under > the > > influence of such evil forces, it is advised to > > worship lord shiva. > > > > There was a story of Lord Shiva, in which her wife > > (Shri Gauri) goes to her home and after hearing > some > > wrong words against lord shiva, she offers herself > to > > fire and the destruction at that place is done by > the > > army of lord shiva (bhoot, pret, pischaach etc.) > So in > > order to punish the wrong people, this is also a > kind > > of force which is used by Lord Shiva, when he is > > angry. (This force is used very rarely, so not > much > > people experience it) > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > PR: For the family who is affected by the black > magic, > > please check, if the last rights of your ancestors > has > > been done properly (specially, if somebody has > died in > > past some years). Also think and check if you have > > hurted someone (knowingly or unknowingly) in past > and > > do the needful accordingly. Negative energies will > not > > come by themselves without any reason to harm you. > > Generally our past mistakes and sins make them > happen. > > "Hare Rama Krishna" is also good mantra for any > > bondages. > > > > > > > > > > --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> > wrote: > > > >> Dear Neeraj (others too!), > >> > >> Please Explain -- > >> > >> Negative energy! > >> > >> Why does 'Baba' allow that kind of energy to > exist? > >> > >> RR > >> > >> , Neeraj > >> Gupta > >> <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Try wearing rudraksha (five faced) round the > neck > >> and > >>> do maha mrityunjay daily. I have read that no > >> negative > >>> energy can pass through rudraksha as it is > >> governed by > >>> lord shiva. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> Neeraj > >>> > >>> --- shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >> .HARE > >>>> RAM. > >>>> Dear Mr.Sidhartha, > >>>> In fact your question have some logic and i > do > >>>> appriciate you but please try to understand > >>>> deeply.All the retiuals,performing by this > >> family > >>>> are the part of their sprituality not the > >> remedy.A > >>>> person do try to make him fit through > >>>> exercises,taking controlled diets etc even than > >> if > >>>> he become ill than he will have to take the > >>>> medicines prescribed by the doctor for the > exact > >>>> problem.So this is the same case hear. > >>>> > >>>> Shashie Shekhar > >>>> Mobile-09818310075 > >>>> Delhi > >>>> > >>>> sidhartha022 <sidhartha022 wrote: > >>>> dear friends > >>>> but i know a person who do lot of jap and in > his > >>>> house lot of havan > >>>> will be done . every year he take a dip in maa > >>>> ganga. he is a > >>>> brahmin . always remain in close contact with > >>>> brahmans . his son and > >>>> wife are also very religios and a brahmin > >> family. > >>>> they do lot of > >>>> havan mantra and sadhana .they visited lot of > >>>> tiurthas and dham also > >>>> very good and kind to all still there is lot of > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 dear neeraj ji it is good to note various learnt people sharing their knowledge on this dreaded evil. as you rightly observed, balaji mandir at mehandipur is a great boon to all such victims of blackmagic and i visited this temple several times and am aware of thousands of people getting cured. in my previous mail i mentioned this temple in north and chotanikkara temple in south as the best in india. rohit with his little knowledge gave a public declaration that once a person is affected by black magic, no remedy works. visiting to temples dont work. no havans or poojas work. no rudraksha works. when i supplied him facts point by point instead of answering them (for he has no answers) he was adament in rigidly sticking to his stand. by making such fearful statements he is instilling fear in the minds of gullible. there is a cure for everything. we shall write more on such subjects because suffering people shall not be scared away by those like rohit who say that once affected, there is no cure as no remedy works after getting affected. with best wishes pandit arjun , Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > Dear Prafulla, > > Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct, that > some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in most of > the cases it is our sins of past life that result in > this. > > Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of these > evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name > "Balaji" and people who have these kind of problems > (black magic) go there and they are cured. > > Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one should > not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals in > which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik remedies > might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people who > practice taamasik rituals promising to do the thing > you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short > term. > > Like for example, if one is injured in knee and cannot > walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply > some very effective spray on his knee, he will not > feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he may be > able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for > short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will > feel more pain, because he is strectching that part of > body that needs rest, care, patience, healing. > > Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply temporary > relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers > (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate, > perform japam, mantra and it will go away after some > time permanently. > > The above was just an example I took to explain > Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical purposes or > doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or sprays > recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are medicines > and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please > remember this was just an example to clarify the > Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Neeraj ji > > > > Many a times, a person has not done anything wrong > > (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target some > > of these kids to harm the natives. and I presume, > > these can be resolved by competent person only; else > > we are risking the life of native. > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to > > do is stop digging. > > > > > > > > > > gupta_neeraj_2000 > > > Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > Re: black magic after doing lot of > > havan and jap why ? > > > Neeraj -- Please Explain! > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative > > forces > > > such as those practised by Tantriks for bad deeds > > > (Taamasic basically). > > > > > > I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a bit > > of > > > it. However, with God's grace and with the > > suggestions > > > of gurus, I came to know that though these taamsic > > > remedies produce almost immediate results, > > however, > > > you end up doing bad karma, and you have to pay > > later > > > (i.e. after some time, you get into more trouble, > > or > > > the suffering is there in some way or another). > > > > > > Ok. Good question that Why negative energies > > exist? > > > > > > To be honest and true, I do not know the real or > > exact > > > answer. But based on my little knowledge, I see > > that > > > the world, human being or anything in this world > > has > > > both negative and positive effects. > > > > > > Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad deeds, > > then > > > how you will differentiate between good and bad. > > Some > > > thing is cold and the other is hot. In every yuga, > > you > > > will find that negative energies do exist and > > people > > > do taamsic things and the same is balanced by the > > > saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs. cold > > (some > > > places are hot, while other are cold), some are > > dry > > > (desserts) while some areas get more rain. There > > are > > > some bad people who do all kinds of wrong things > > and > > > similarly there are pious people, sattwic people > > who > > > do good deeds, help others etc. > > > > > > Like it is said that in the army of Shiva, there > > are > > > lots of Ghosts, pischaach, etc which we consider > > as > > > negative energies. Hence, if any native is under > > the > > > influence of such evil forces, it is advised to > > > worship lord shiva. > > > > > > There was a story of Lord Shiva, in which her wife > > > (Shri Gauri) goes to her home and after hearing > > some > > > wrong words against lord shiva, she offers herself > > to > > > fire and the destruction at that place is done by > > the > > > army of lord shiva (bhoot, pret, pischaach etc.) > > So in > > > order to punish the wrong people, this is also a > > kind > > > of force which is used by Lord Shiva, when he is > > > angry. (This force is used very rarely, so not > > much > > > people experience it) > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > > > > PR: For the family who is affected by the black > > magic, > > > please check, if the last rights of your ancestors > > has > > > been done properly (specially, if somebody has > > died in > > > past some years). Also think and check if you have > > > hurted someone (knowingly or unknowingly) in past > > and > > > do the needful accordingly. Negative energies will > > not > > > come by themselves without any reason to harm you. > > > Generally our past mistakes and sins make them > > happen. > > > "Hare Rama Krishna" is also good mantra for any > > > bondages. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani > > wrote: > > > > > >> Dear Neeraj (others too!), > > >> > > >> Please Explain -- > > >> > > >> Negative energy! > > >> > > >> Why does 'Baba' allow that kind of energy to > > exist? > > >> > > >> RR > > >> > > >> , Neeraj > > >> Gupta > > >> <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> Try wearing rudraksha (five faced) round the > > neck > > >> and > > >>> do maha mrityunjay daily. I have read that no > > >> negative > > >>> energy can pass through rudraksha as it is > > >> governed by > > >>> lord shiva. > > >>> > > >>> Regards, > > >>> > > >>> Neeraj > > >>> > > >>> --- shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro@> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> > > >> .HARE > > >>>> RAM. > > >>>> Dear Mr.Sidhartha, > > >>>> In fact your question have some logic and i > > do > > >>>> appriciate you but please try to understand > > >>>> deeply.All the retiuals,performing by this > > >> family > > >>>> are the part of their sprituality not the > > >> remedy.A > > >>>> person do try to make him fit through > > >>>> exercises,taking controlled diets etc even than > > >> if > > >>>> he become ill than he will have to take the > > >>>> medicines prescribed by the doctor for the > > exact > > >>>> problem.So this is the same case hear. > > >>>> > > >>>> Shashie Shekhar > > >>>> Mobile-09818310075 > > >>>> Delhi > > >>>> > > >>>> sidhartha022 <sidhartha022@> wrote: > > >>>> dear friends > > >>>> but i know a person who do lot of jap and in > > his > > >>>> house lot of havan > > >>>> will be done . every year he take a dip in maa > > >>>> ganga. he is a > > >>>> brahmin . always remain in close contact with > > >>>> brahmans . his son and > > >>>> wife are also very religios and a brahmin > > >> family. > > >>>> they do lot of > > >>>> havan mantra and sadhana .they visited lot of > > >>>> tiurthas and dham also > > >>>> very good and kind to all still there is lot of > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ Dear Arjun Ji, It is my request to all the members to address me directly by my name and not suffixing it with "Ji" or anything else. Arjun Ji, you are absolutely correct that there is a solution for every problem and remedial measures do work. Actually there are so many quacks and fakes in the real world, who just prescribe or sell anything. I have seen many priests taking thousands of rupees for doing Japam (after sankalp) for various mantras and they never actually chant the mantra for you. They are interested in just making the money out of the troubled native. Also, many fake rudraskha rosaries are being sold in the market. Some people just buy gems, rudraksha, yantras etc. and use them / wear them without even cleansing and purifying them. So they do not work at all and hence it decreases their faith. Also in chanting mantra devotion and faith is necessary. Without devotion or faith, mantra will yield very less or no results. I would like to share my view that if anybody has advised you to do japam of any mantra, please do it by yourself as it will do good for you. You may take long time, however, it will do good for you. Don't try to go fast to just complete the counting. You may do one mala in morning and the other in evening and the japam may complete in months. But it will actually give you results. If you buy any gem, get it tested for Goverment Gem Laboratory. There are so many fake gems, that even the Jewellers get confused. Do remedial measures (though you may do less) in good way. You may be slow, results might get slow but there will be positive results. Balaji Temple is really great. One may go there and he can see that people having these kinds of problems (black magic etc.) get cured. Here is the word of caution. I heard it from one person who went to Balaji (I am not sure whether it is true or not, as I heard from somebody else). ***** When you do the Darshan of Shri Balaji (Lord Hanumana) and you come back, you may hear some familiar voices (some times of the deceased people of your family) who might be calling you by name. Do not look back and come straight to your dwelling place or home. If you look back, the black magic will not go away and the curse will persist. I have also heard similar things from the people who live in mountains and they say that some times they hear such voices in mountain forests and they never look back. ****** God looks for your devotion, faith and even you chant his name without any mantra with utmost faith, it will help you. Regards, Neeraj --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: > dear neeraj ji > > it is good to note various learnt people sharing > their knowledge on > this dreaded evil. as you rightly observed, balaji > mandir at > mehandipur is a great boon to all such victims of > blackmagic and i > visited this temple several times and am aware of > thousands of > people getting cured. in my previous mail i > mentioned this temple > in north and chotanikkara temple in south as the > best in india. > > rohit with his little knowledge gave a public > declaration that once > a person is affected by black magic, no remedy > works. visiting to > temples dont work. no havans or poojas work. no > rudraksha works. > when i supplied him facts point by point instead of > answering them > (for he has no answers) he was adament in rigidly > sticking to his > stand. by making such fearful statements he is > instilling fear in > the minds of gullible. there is a cure for > everything. > > we shall write more on such subjects because > suffering people shall > not be scared away by those like rohit who say that > once affected, > there is no cure as no remedy works after getting > affected. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > > , Neeraj > Gupta > <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct, > that > > some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in > most of > > the cases it is our sins of past life that result > in > > this. > > > > Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of > these > > evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name > > "Balaji" and people who have these kind of > problems > > (black magic) go there and they are cured. > > > > Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one > should > > not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals > in > > which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik > remedies > > might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people > who > > practice taamasik rituals promising to do the > thing > > you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short > > term. > > > > Like for example, if one is injured in knee and > cannot > > walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply > > some very effective spray on his knee, he will not > > feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he > may be > > able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for > > short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will > > feel more pain, because he is strectching that > part of > > body that needs rest, care, patience, healing. > > > > Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply > temporary > > relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers > > (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate, > > perform japam, mantra and it will go away after > some > > time permanently. > > > > The above was just an example I took to explain > > Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical > purposes or > > doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or > sprays > > recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are > medicines > > and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please > > remember this was just an example to clarify the > > Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies. > > > > Regards, > > > > Neeraj > > > > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > > > > Dear Neeraj ji > > > > > > Many a times, a person has not done anything > wrong > > > (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target > some > > > of these kids to harm the natives. and I > presume, > > > these can be resolved by competent person only; > else > > > we are risking the life of native. > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing > to > > > do is stop digging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gupta_neeraj_2000 > > > > Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > Re: black magic after doing lot > of > > > havan and jap why ? > > > > Neeraj -- Please Explain! > > > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative > > > forces > > > > such as those practised by Tantriks for bad > deeds > > > > (Taamasic basically). > > > > > > > > I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a > bit > > > of > > > > it. However, with God's grace and with the > > > suggestions > > > > of gurus, I came to know that though these > taamsic > > > > remedies produce almost immediate results, > > > however, > > > > you end up doing bad karma, and you have to > pay > > > later > > > > (i.e. after some time, you get into more > trouble, > > > or > > > > the suffering is there in some way or > another). > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question that Why negative energies > > > exist? > > > > > > > > To be honest and true, I do not know the real > or > > > exact > > > > answer. But based on my little knowledge, I > see > > > that > > > > the world, human being or anything in this > world > > > has > > > > both negative and positive effects. > > > > > > > > Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad > deeds, > > > then > > > > how you will differentiate between good and > bad. > > > Some > > > > thing is cold and the other is hot. In every > yuga, > > > you > > > > will find that negative energies do exist and > > > people > > > > do taamsic things and the same is balanced by > the > > > > saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs. > cold > > > (some > > > > places are hot, while other are cold), some > are > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Yes, It is very important to find competent person to remove the black magic. and if one really tries, can always find someone. Faith in God is supreme and so is faith in mantras too; However, many a times, it becomes important to find one competent person (and fair person too) for immediate remedy and; thereafter (or alongwith it) - native can perform daily pooja etc. Since i am not familiar with the methods and rituals, I am narrating, what I heard from few experienced people. regards / Prafulla Gang If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. > > gupta_neeraj_2000 > Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:19:23 -0700 (PDT) > > Re: black magic after doing lot of havan and jap why ? > Neeraj -- Please Explain! > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > Dear Arjun Ji, > > It is my request to all the members to address me > directly by my name and not suffixing it with "Ji" or > anything else. > > Arjun Ji, you are absolutely correct that there is a > solution for every problem and remedial measures do > work. > > Actually there are so many quacks and fakes in the > real world, who just prescribe or sell anything. I > have seen many priests taking thousands of rupees for > doing Japam (after sankalp) for various mantras and > they never actually chant the mantra for you. They are > interested in just making the money out of the > troubled native. > > Also, many fake rudraskha rosaries are being sold in > the market. Some people just buy gems, rudraksha, > yantras etc. and use them / wear them without even > cleansing and purifying them. So they do not work at > all and hence it decreases their faith. > > Also in chanting mantra devotion and faith is > necessary. Without devotion or faith, mantra will > yield very less or no results. > > I would like to share my view that if anybody has > advised you to do japam of any mantra, please do it by > yourself as it will do good for you. You may take long > time, however, it will do good for you. Don't try to > go fast to just complete the counting. You may do one > mala in morning and the other in evening and the japam > may complete in months. But it will actually give you > results. If you buy any gem, get it tested for > Goverment Gem Laboratory. There are so many fake gems, > that even the Jewellers get confused. Do remedial > measures (though you may do less) in good way. You > may be slow, results might get slow but there will be > positive results. > > Balaji Temple is really great. One may go there and he > can see that people having these kinds of problems > (black magic etc.) get cured. > > Here is the word of caution. I heard it from one > person who went to Balaji (I am not sure whether it is > true or not, as I heard from somebody else). > > ***** > > When you do the Darshan of Shri Balaji (Lord Hanumana) > and you come back, you may hear some familiar voices > (some times of the deceased people of your family) who > might be calling you by name. Do not look back and > come straight to your dwelling place or home. If you > look back, the black magic will not go away and the > curse will persist. I have also heard similar things > from the people who live in mountains and they say > that some times they hear such voices in mountain > forests and they never look back. > > ****** > > God looks for your devotion, faith and even you chant > his name without any mantra with utmost faith, it will > help you. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: > >> dear neeraj ji >> >> it is good to note various learnt people sharing >> their knowledge on >> this dreaded evil. as you rightly observed, balaji >> mandir at >> mehandipur is a great boon to all such victims of >> blackmagic and i >> visited this temple several times and am aware of >> thousands of >> people getting cured. in my previous mail i >> mentioned this temple >> in north and chotanikkara temple in south as the >> best in india. >> >> rohit with his little knowledge gave a public >> declaration that once >> a person is affected by black magic, no remedy >> works. visiting to >> temples dont work. no havans or poojas work. no >> rudraksha works. >> when i supplied him facts point by point instead of >> answering them >> (for he has no answers) he was adament in rigidly >> sticking to his >> stand. by making such fearful statements he is >> instilling fear in >> the minds of gullible. there is a cure for >> everything. >> >> we shall write more on such subjects because >> suffering people shall >> not be scared away by those like rohit who say that >> once affected, >> there is no cure as no remedy works after getting >> affected. >> >> with best wishes >> pandit arjun >> >> , Neeraj >> Gupta >> <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: >>> >>> ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ >>> >>> Dear Prafulla, >>> >>> Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct, >> that >>> some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in >> most of >>> the cases it is our sins of past life that result >> in >>> this. >>> >>> Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of >> these >>> evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name >>> "Balaji" and people who have these kind of >> problems >>> (black magic) go there and they are cured. >>> >>> Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one >> should >>> not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals >> in >>> which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik >> remedies >>> might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people >> who >>> practice taamasik rituals promising to do the >> thing >>> you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short >>> term. >>> >>> Like for example, if one is injured in knee and >> cannot >>> walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply >>> some very effective spray on his knee, he will not >>> feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he >> may be >>> able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for >>> short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will >>> feel more pain, because he is strectching that >> part of >>> body that needs rest, care, patience, healing. >>> >>> Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply >> temporary >>> relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers >>> (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate, >>> perform japam, mantra and it will go away after >> some >>> time permanently. >>> >>> The above was just an example I took to explain >>> Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical >> purposes or >>> doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or >> sprays >>> recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are >> medicines >>> and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please >>> remember this was just an example to clarify the >>> Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Neeraj >>> >>> --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Neeraj ji >>>> >>>> Many a times, a person has not done anything >> wrong >>>> (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target >> some >>>> of these kids to harm the natives. and I >> presume, >>>> these can be resolved by competent person only; >> else >>>> we are risking the life of native. >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing >> to >>>> do is stop digging. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> gupta_neeraj_2000 >>>>> Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT) >>>>> >>>>> Re: black magic after doing lot >> of >>>> havan and jap why ? >>>>> Neeraj -- Please Explain! >>>>> >>>>> ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative >>>> forces >>>>> such as those practised by Tantriks for bad >> deeds >>>>> (Taamasic basically). >>>>> >>>>> I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a >> bit >>>> of >>>>> it. However, with God's grace and with the >>>> suggestions >>>>> of gurus, I came to know that though these >> taamsic >>>>> remedies produce almost immediate results, >>>> however, >>>>> you end up doing bad karma, and you have to >> pay >>>> later >>>>> (i.e. after some time, you get into more >> trouble, >>>> or >>>>> the suffering is there in some way or >> another). >>>>> >>>>> Ok. Good question that Why negative energies >>>> exist? >>>>> >>>>> To be honest and true, I do not know the real >> or >>>> exact >>>>> answer. But based on my little knowledge, I >> see >>>> that >>>>> the world, human being or anything in this >> world >>>> has >>>>> both negative and positive effects. >>>>> >>>>> Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad >> deeds, >>>> then >>>>> how you will differentiate between good and >> bad. >>>> Some >>>>> thing is cold and the other is hot. In every >> yuga, >>>> you >>>>> will find that negative energies do exist and >>>> people >>>>> do taamsic things and the same is balanced by >> the >>>>> saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs. >> cold >>>> (some >>>>> places are hot, while other are cold), some >> are >> > === message truncated === > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 dear friend neeraj out of all kinds of remedies i list down the best in their order: 1. invoke the blessings of your ishta devata by poojas and mantra recital all by yourself. 2. recite by yourself a particular tailor made mantra for getting relief from a specific problem, as suggested by a learnt pandit. 3. perform a homam at your home or at a temple near your place by engaging lernt pandits who do at your place and you will be present all the while. 4. if you dont have the time to do mantra recitals or perform havans, do fasts on the days as prescribed by your pandit. 5. if you are not physically capable of fasting or doing any of the above, then go in for wearing a holy item like rudraksha. fortunately due to cable tv (media) revolution, people have realised the fact to live with such quacks and fakes and they are the best judges as today not a single product is spared from fake. every day we hear people faking even the identity cards of CBI and police to dupe gullibles. so we shall leave the subject of fakes as each tree will have certain rotten fruits. as regards mehandipur balaji temple in rajasthan, i visited it several times and narrate few things for the benefit of all. 1. visit that mandir only if you have an evil or blackmagic problem. 2. within that mandir complex, do not eat or drink anything except the water bottle you carried with yourself. 3. on the hill above the temple so many possessed people get relieved of their devils on a daily basis. even if you look at them, no problem but do not establish straight eye contact with their eyes. 4. while returning back from the top of that temple, dont look back. 5. do not mix with the locals and restrict yourself to the objective of visiting the holy complex which comprises lord hanuman, bhairav and pretraj. this is the only temple in the world for pretraj. 6. if the evil affected person cannot visit this temple on his own, any of his male relatives can revolve few grains of rice or a coconut thrice around his head and tie it firmly in a red cloth and offer it at the balaji temple. 7. possessed people are kept upside down in a firepit (head directly kept in a firepit) and huge boulders (weighing tons) placed on the possessed persons bodies and some even carrying the fire and eating the fire. do not watch all these wierd scenes. 8. one last word of caution is that do not visit this temple in peak winter season i.e. december and january when due to heavy fog visibility would be hardly few metres. 9. try to be present in the arati given once in the morning and another in the evening. also they would sprinkle the holy water and try to get few drops fall on yourselves. the chottanikkara bhagawati temple in kerala is also wierd where the possessed people hit an iron nail into a tree with thier heads. these two temples (one in rajasthan and the other in kerala) are the best i advise for possessed people to get rid of their evils and black magic. every day thousands are getting cured AFTER BECOMING VICTIMS OF EVILS OR BLACK MAGIC. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun , Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > Dear Arjun Ji, > > It is my request to all the members to address me > directly by my name and not suffixing it with "Ji" or > anything else. > > Arjun Ji, you are absolutely correct that there is a > solution for every problem and remedial measures do > work. > > Actually there are so many quacks and fakes in the > real world, who just prescribe or sell anything. I > have seen many priests taking thousands of rupees for > doing Japam (after sankalp) for various mantras and > they never actually chant the mantra for you. They are > interested in just making the money out of the > troubled native. > > Also, many fake rudraskha rosaries are being sold in > the market. Some people just buy gems, rudraksha, > yantras etc. and use them / wear them without even > cleansing and purifying them. So they do not work at > all and hence it decreases their faith. > > Also in chanting mantra devotion and faith is > necessary. Without devotion or faith, mantra will > yield very less or no results. > > I would like to share my view that if anybody has > advised you to do japam of any mantra, please do it by > yourself as it will do good for you. You may take long > time, however, it will do good for you. Don't try to > go fast to just complete the counting. You may do one > mala in morning and the other in evening and the japam > may complete in months. But it will actually give you > results. If you buy any gem, get it tested for > Goverment Gem Laboratory. There are so many fake gems, > that even the Jewellers get confused. Do remedial > measures (though you may do less) in good way. You > may be slow, results might get slow but there will be > positive results. > > Balaji Temple is really great. One may go there and he > can see that people having these kinds of problems > (black magic etc.) get cured. > > Here is the word of caution. I heard it from one > person who went to Balaji (I am not sure whether it is > true or not, as I heard from somebody else). > > ***** > > When you do the Darshan of Shri Balaji (Lord Hanumana) > and you come back, you may hear some familiar voices > (some times of the deceased people of your family) who > might be calling you by name. Do not look back and > come straight to your dwelling place or home. If you > look back, the black magic will not go away and the > curse will persist. I have also heard similar things > from the people who live in mountains and they say > that some times they hear such voices in mountain > forests and they never look back. > > ****** > > God looks for your devotion, faith and even you chant > his name without any mantra with utmost faith, it will > help you. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > dear neeraj ji > > > > it is good to note various learnt people sharing > > their knowledge on > > this dreaded evil. as you rightly observed, balaji > > mandir at > > mehandipur is a great boon to all such victims of > > blackmagic and i > > visited this temple several times and am aware of > > thousands of > > people getting cured. in my previous mail i > > mentioned this temple > > in north and chotanikkara temple in south as the > > best in india. > > > > rohit with his little knowledge gave a public > > declaration that once > > a person is affected by black magic, no remedy > > works. visiting to > > temples dont work. no havans or poojas work. no > > rudraksha works. > > when i supplied him facts point by point instead of > > answering them > > (for he has no answers) he was adament in rigidly > > sticking to his > > stand. by making such fearful statements he is > > instilling fear in > > the minds of gullible. there is a cure for > > everything. > > > > we shall write more on such subjects because > > suffering people shall > > not be scared away by those like rohit who say that > > once affected, > > there is no cure as no remedy works after getting > > affected. > > > > with best wishes > > pandit arjun > > > > , Neeraj > > Gupta > > <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > > > Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct, > > that > > > some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in > > most of > > > the cases it is our sins of past life that result > > in > > > this. > > > > > > Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of > > these > > > evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name > > > "Balaji" and people who have these kind of > > problems > > > (black magic) go there and they are cured. > > > > > > Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one > > should > > > not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals > > in > > > which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik > > remedies > > > might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people > > who > > > practice taamasik rituals promising to do the > > thing > > > you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short > > > term. > > > > > > Like for example, if one is injured in knee and > > cannot > > > walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply > > > some very effective spray on his knee, he will not > > > feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he > > may be > > > able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for > > > short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will > > > feel more pain, because he is strectching that > > part of > > > body that needs rest, care, patience, healing. > > > > > > Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply > > temporary > > > relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers > > > (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate, > > > perform japam, mantra and it will go away after > > some > > > time permanently. > > > > > > The above was just an example I took to explain > > > Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical > > purposes or > > > doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or > > sprays > > > recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are > > medicines > > > and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please > > > remember this was just an example to clarify the > > > Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Neeraj ji > > > > > > > > Many a times, a person has not done anything > > wrong > > > > (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target > > some > > > > of these kids to harm the natives. and I > > presume, > > > > these can be resolved by competent person only; > > else > > > > we are risking the life of native. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing > > to > > > > do is stop digging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gupta_neeraj_2000@ > > > > > Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > Re: black magic after doing lot > > of > > > > havan and jap why ? > > > > > Neeraj -- Please Explain! > > > > > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative > > > > forces > > > > > such as those practised by Tantriks for bad > > deeds > > > > > (Taamasic basically). > > > > > > > > > > I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a > > bit > > > > of > > > > > it. However, with God's grace and with the > > > > suggestions > > > > > of gurus, I came to know that though these > > taamsic > > > > > remedies produce almost immediate results, > > > > however, > > > > > you end up doing bad karma, and you have to > > pay > > > > later > > > > > (i.e. after some time, you get into more > > trouble, > > > > or > > > > > the suffering is there in some way or > > another). > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question that Why negative energies > > > > exist? > > > > > > > > > > To be honest and true, I do not know the real > > or > > > > exact > > > > > answer. But based on my little knowledge, I > > see > > > > that > > > > > the world, human being or anything in this > > world > > > > has > > > > > both negative and positive effects. > > > > > > > > > > Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad > > deeds, > > > > then > > > > > how you will differentiate between good and > > bad. > > > > Some > > > > > thing is cold and the other is hot. In every > > yuga, > > > > you > > > > > will find that negative energies do exist and > > > > people > > > > > do taamsic things and the same is balanced by > > the > > > > > saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs. > > cold > > > > (some > > > > > places are hot, while other are cold), some > > are > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 Dear Pandit Arjun ji It has been quite a learning experience for me on this subject. Special thanks to you. People also say that, horoscopes must not be shown / shared publicly; and as someone can do black magic. That is why, people say that celeberities do not disclose their correct data. Is it true? Can anyone perform black magic on anyone? regards / Prafulla Gang If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. > > panditarjun2004 > Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:59:45 -0000 > > Re: black magic after doing lot of havan and jap why ? > Neeraj -- Please Explain! > > dear neeraj ji > > it is good to note various learnt people sharing their knowledge on > this dreaded evil. as you rightly observed, balaji mandir at > mehandipur is a great boon to all such victims of blackmagic and i > visited this temple several times and am aware of thousands of > people getting cured. in my previous mail i mentioned this temple > in north and chotanikkara temple in south as the best in india. > > rohit with his little knowledge gave a public declaration that once > a person is affected by black magic, no remedy works. visiting to > temples dont work. no havans or poojas work. no rudraksha works. > when i supplied him facts point by point instead of answering them > (for he has no answers) he was adament in rigidly sticking to his > stand. by making such fearful statements he is instilling fear in > the minds of gullible. there is a cure for everything. > > we shall write more on such subjects because suffering people shall > not be scared away by those like rohit who say that once affected, > there is no cure as no remedy works after getting affected. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > > , Neeraj Gupta > <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: >> >> ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ >> >> Dear Prafulla, >> >> Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct, that >> some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in most of >> the cases it is our sins of past life that result in >> this. >> >> Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of these >> evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name >> "Balaji" and people who have these kind of problems >> (black magic) go there and they are cured. >> >> Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one should >> not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals in >> which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik remedies >> might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people who >> practice taamasik rituals promising to do the thing >> you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short >> term. >> >> Like for example, if one is injured in knee and cannot >> walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply >> some very effective spray on his knee, he will not >> feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he may be >> able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for >> short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will >> feel more pain, because he is strectching that part of >> body that needs rest, care, patience, healing. >> >> Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply temporary >> relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers >> (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate, >> perform japam, mantra and it will go away after some >> time permanently. >> >> The above was just an example I took to explain >> Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical purposes or >> doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or sprays >> recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are medicines >> and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please >> remember this was just an example to clarify the >> Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies. >> >> Regards, >> >> Neeraj >> >> --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: >> >>> Dear Neeraj ji >>> >>> Many a times, a person has not done anything wrong >>> (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target some >>> of these kids to harm the natives. and I presume, >>> these can be resolved by competent person only; else >>> we are risking the life of native. >>> >>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>> >>> If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to >>> do is stop digging. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> gupta_neeraj_2000 >>>> Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT) >>>> >>>> Re: black magic after doing lot of >>> havan and jap why ? >>>> Neeraj -- Please Explain! >>>> >>>> ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative >>> forces >>>> such as those practised by Tantriks for bad deeds >>>> (Taamasic basically). >>>> >>>> I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a bit >>> of >>>> it. However, with God's grace and with the >>> suggestions >>>> of gurus, I came to know that though these taamsic >>>> remedies produce almost immediate results, >>> however, >>>> you end up doing bad karma, and you have to pay >>> later >>>> (i.e. after some time, you get into more trouble, >>> or >>>> the suffering is there in some way or another). >>>> >>>> Ok. Good question that Why negative energies >>> exist? >>>> >>>> To be honest and true, I do not know the real or >>> exact >>>> answer. But based on my little knowledge, I see >>> that >>>> the world, human being or anything in this world >>> has >>>> both negative and positive effects. >>>> >>>> Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad deeds, >>> then >>>> how you will differentiate between good and bad. >>> Some >>>> thing is cold and the other is hot. In every yuga, >>> you >>>> will find that negative energies do exist and >>> people >>>> do taamsic things and the same is balanced by the >>>> saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs. cold >>> (some >>>> places are hot, while other are cold), some are >>> dry >>>> (desserts) while some areas get more rain. There >>> are >>>> some bad people who do all kinds of wrong things >>> and >>>> similarly there are pious people, sattwic people >>> who >>>> do good deeds, help others etc. >>>> >>>> Like it is said that in the army of Shiva, there >>> are >>>> lots of Ghosts, pischaach, etc which we consider >>> as >>>> negative energies. Hence, if any native is under >>> the >>>> influence of such evil forces, it is advised to >>>> worship lord shiva. >>>> >>>> There was a story of Lord Shiva, in which her wife >>>> (Shri Gauri) goes to her home and after hearing >>> some >>>> wrong words against lord shiva, she offers herself >>> to >>>> fire and the destruction at that place is done by >>> the >>>> army of lord shiva (bhoot, pret, pischaach etc.) >>> So in >>>> order to punish the wrong people, this is also a >>> kind >>>> of force which is used by Lord Shiva, when he is >>>> angry. (This force is used very rarely, so not >>> much >>>> people experience it) >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Neeraj >>>> >>>> >>>> PR: For the family who is affected by the black >>> magic, >>>> please check, if the last rights of your ancestors >>> has >>>> been done properly (specially, if somebody has >>> died in >>>> past some years). Also think and check if you have >>>> hurted someone (knowingly or unknowingly) in past >>> and >>>> do the needful accordingly. Negative energies will >>> not >>>> come by themselves without any reason to harm you. >>>> Generally our past mistakes and sins make them >>> happen. >>>> "Hare Rama Krishna" is also good mantra for any >>>> bondages. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Neeraj (others too!), >>>>> >>>>> Please Explain -- >>>>> >>>>> Negative energy! >>>>> >>>>> Why does 'Baba' allow that kind of energy to >>> exist? >>>>> >>>>> RR >>>>> >>>>> , Neeraj >>>>> Gupta >>>>> <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Try wearing rudraksha (five faced) round the >>> neck >>>>> and >>>>>> do maha mrityunjay daily. I have read that no >>>>> negative >>>>>> energy can pass through rudraksha as it is >>>>> governed by >>>>>> lord shiva. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Neeraj >>>>>> >>>>>> --- shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro@> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> .HARE >>>>>>> RAM. >>>>>>> Dear Mr.Sidhartha, >>>>>>> In fact your question have some logic and i >>> do >>>>>>> appriciate you but please try to understand >>>>>>> deeply.All the retiuals,performing by this >>>>> family >>>>>>> are the part of their sprituality not the >>>>> remedy.A >>>>>>> person do try to make him fit through >>>>>>> exercises,taking controlled diets etc even than >>>>> if >>>>>>> he become ill than he will have to take the >>>>>>> medicines prescribed by the doctor for the >>> exact >>>>>>> problem.So this is the same case hear. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shashie Shekhar >>>>>>> Mobile-09818310075 >>>>>>> Delhi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> sidhartha022 <sidhartha022@> wrote: >>>>>>> dear friends >>>>>>> but i know a person who do lot of jap and in >>> his >>>>>>> house lot of havan >>>>>>> will be done . every year he take a dip in maa >>>>>>> ganga. he is a >>>>>>> brahmin . always remain in close contact with >>>>>>> brahmans . his son and >>>>>>> wife are also very religios and a brahmin >>>>> family. >>>>>>> they do lot of >>>>>>> havan mantra and sadhana .they visited lot of >>>>>>> tiurthas and dham also >>>>>>> very good and kind to all still there is lot of >>> >> === message truncated === >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: dear friend neeraj out of all kinds of remedies i list down the best in their order: 1. invoke the blessings of your ishta devata by poojas and mantra recital all by yourself. 2. recite by yourself a particular tailor made mantra for getting relief from a specific problem, as suggested by a learnt pandit. 3. perform a homam at your home or at a temple near your place by engaging lernt pandits who do at your place and you will be present all the while. 4. if you dont have the time to do mantra recitals or perform havans, do fasts on the days as prescribed by your pandit. 5. if you are not physically capable of fasting or doing any of the above, then go in for wearing a holy item like rudraksha. fortunately due to cable tv (media) revolution, people have realised the fact to live with such quacks and fakes and they are the best judges as today not a single product is spared from fake. every day we hear people faking even the identity cards of CBI and police to dupe gullibles. so we shall leave the subject of fakes as each tree will have certain rotten fruits. as regards mehandipur balaji temple in rajasthan, i visited it several times and narrate few things for the benefit of all. 1. visit that mandir only if you have an evil or blackmagic problem. 2. within that mandir complex, do not eat or drink anything except the water bottle you carried with yourself. 3. on the hill above the temple so many possessed people get relieved of their devils on a daily basis. even if you look at them, no problem but do not establish straight eye contact with their eyes. 4. while returning back from the top of that temple, dont look back. 5. do not mix with the locals and restrict yourself to the objective of visiting the holy complex which comprises lord hanuman, bhairav and pretraj. this is the only temple in the world for pretraj. 6. if the evil affected person cannot visit this temple on his own, any of his male relatives can revolve few grains of rice or a coconut thrice around his head and tie it firmly in a red cloth and offer it at the balaji temple. 7. possessed people are kept upside down in a firepit (head directly kept in a firepit) and huge boulders (weighing tons) placed on the possessed persons bodies and some even carrying the fire and eating the fire. do not watch all these wierd scenes. 8. one last word of caution is that do not visit this temple in peak winter season i.e. december and january when due to heavy fog visibility would be hardly few metres. 9. try to be present in the arati given once in the morning and another in the evening. also they would sprinkle the holy water and try to get few drops fall on yourselves. the chottanikkara bhagawati temple in kerala is also wierd where the possessed people hit an iron nail into a tree with thier heads. these two temples (one in rajasthan and the other in kerala) are the best i advise for possessed people to get rid of their evils and black magic. every day thousands are getting cured AFTER BECOMING VICTIMS OF EVILS OR BLACK MAGIC. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun , Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > Dear Arjun Ji, > > It is my request to all the members to address me > directly by my name and not suffixing it with "Ji" or > anything else. > > Arjun Ji, you are absolutely correct that there is a > solution for every problem and remedial measures do > work. > > Actually there are so many quacks and fakes in the > real world, who just prescribe or sell anything. I > have seen many priests taking thousands of rupees for > doing Japam (after sankalp) for various mantras and > they never actually chant the mantra for you. They are > interested in just making the money out of the > troubled native. > > Also, many fake rudraskha rosaries are being sold in > the market. Some people just buy gems, rudraksha, > yantras etc. and use them / wear them without even > cleansing and purifying them. So they do not work at > all and hence it decreases their faith. > > Also in chanting mantra devotion and faith is > necessary. Without devotion or faith, mantra will > yield very less or no results. > > I would like to share my view that if anybody has > advised you to do japam of any mantra, please do it by > yourself as it will do good for you. You may take long > time, however, it will do good for you. Don't try to > go fast to just complete the counting. You may do one > mala in morning and the other in evening and the japam > may complete in months. But it will actually give you > results. If you buy any gem, get it tested for > Goverment Gem Laboratory. There are so many fake gems, > that even the Jewellers get confused. Do remedial > measures (though you may do less) in good way. You > may be slow, results might get slow but there will be > positive results. > > Balaji Temple is really great. One may go there and he > can see that people having these kinds of problems > (black magic etc.) get cured. > > Here is the word of caution. I heard it from one > person who went to Balaji (I am not sure whether it is > true or not, as I heard from somebody else). > > ***** > > When you do the Darshan of Shri Balaji (Lord Hanumana) > and you come back, you may hear some familiar voices > (some times of the deceased people of your family) who > might be calling you by name. Do not look back and > come straight to your dwelling place or home. If you > look back, the black magic will not go away and the > curse will persist. I have also heard similar things > from the people who live in mountains and they say > that some times they hear such voices in mountain > forests and they never look back. > > ****** > > God looks for your devotion, faith and even you chant > his name without any mantra with utmost faith, it will > help you. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > dear neeraj ji > > > > it is good to note various learnt people sharing > > their knowledge on > > this dreaded evil. as you rightly observed, balaji > > mandir at > > mehandipur is a great boon to all such victims of > > blackmagic and i > > visited this temple several times and am aware of > > thousands of > > people getting cured. in my previous mail i > > mentioned this temple > > in north and chotanikkara temple in south as the > > best in india. > > > > rohit with his little knowledge gave a public > > declaration that once > > a person is affected by black magic, no remedy > > works. visiting to > > temples dont work. no havans or poojas work. no > > rudraksha works. > > when i supplied him facts point by point instead of > > answering them > > (for he has no answers) he was adament in rigidly > > sticking to his > > stand. by making such fearful statements he is > > instilling fear in > > the minds of gullible. there is a cure for > > everything. > > > > we shall write more on such subjects because > > suffering people shall > > not be scared away by those like rohit who say that > > once affected, > > there is no cure as no remedy works after getting > > affected. > > > > with best wishes > > pandit arjun > > > > , Neeraj > > Gupta > > <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > > > Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct, > > that > > > some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in > > most of > > > the cases it is our sins of past life that result > > in > > > this. > > > > > > Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of > > these > > > evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name > > > "Balaji" and people who have these kind of > > problems > > > (black magic) go there and they are cured. > > > > > > Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one > > should > > > not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals > > in > > > which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik > > remedies > > > might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people > > who > > > practice taamasik rituals promising to do the > > thing > > > you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short > > > term. > > > > > > Like for example, if one is injured in knee and > > cannot > > > walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply > > > some very effective spray on his knee, he will not > > > feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he > > may be > > > able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for > > > short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will > > > feel more pain, because he is strectching that > > part of > > > body that needs rest, care, patience, healing. > > > > > > Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply > > temporary > > > relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers > > > (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate, > > > perform japam, mantra and it will go away after > > some > > > time permanently. > > > > > > The above was just an example I took to explain > > > Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical > > purposes or > > > doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or > > sprays > > > recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are > > medicines > > > and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please > > > remember this was just an example to clarify the > > > Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Neeraj ji > > > > > > > > Many a times, a person has not done anything > > wrong > > > > (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target > > some > > > > of these kids to harm the natives. and I > > presume, > > > > these can be resolved by competent person only; > > else > > > > we are risking the life of native. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing > > to > > > > do is stop digging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gupta_neeraj_2000@ > > > > > Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > Re: black magic after doing lot > > of > > > > havan and jap why ? > > > > > Neeraj -- Please Explain! > > > > > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative > > > > forces > > > > > such as those practised by Tantriks for bad > > deeds > > > > > (Taamasic basically). > > > > > > > > > > I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a > > bit > > > > of > > > > > it. However, with God's grace and with the > > > > suggestions > > > > > of gurus, I came to know that though these > > taamsic > > > > > remedies produce almost immediate results, > > > > however, > > > > > you end up doing bad karma, and you have to > > pay > > > > later > > > > > (i.e. after some time, you get into more > > trouble, > > > > or > > > > > the suffering is there in some way or > > another). > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question that Why negative energies > > > > exist? > > > > > > > > > > To be honest and true, I do not know the real > > or > > > > exact > > > > > answer. But based on my little knowledge, I > > see > > > > that > > > > > the world, human being or anything in this > > world > > > > has > > > > > both negative and positive effects. > > > > > > > > > > Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad > > deeds, > > > > then > > > > > how you will differentiate between good and > > bad. > > > > Some > > > > > thing is cold and the other is hot. In every > > yuga, > > > > you > > > > > will find that negative energies do exist and > > > > people > > > > > do taamsic things and the same is balanced by > > the > > > > > saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs. > > cold > > > > (some > > > > > places are hot, while other are cold), some > > are > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2006 Report Share Posted June 27, 2006 panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: dear friend neeraj out of all kinds of remedies i list down the best in their order: 1. invoke the blessings of your ishta devata by poojas and mantra recital all by yourself. 2. recite by yourself a particular tailor made mantra for getting relief from a specific problem, as suggested by a learnt pandit. 3. perform a homam at your home or at a temple near your place by engaging lernt pandits who do at your place and you will be present all the while. 4. if you dont have the time to do mantra recitals or perform havans, do fasts on the days as prescribed by your pandit. 5. if you are not physically capable of fasting or doing any of the above, then go in for wearing a holy item like rudraksha. fortunately due to cable tv (media) revolution, people have realised the fact to live with such quacks and fakes and they are the best judges as today not a single product is spared from fake. every day we hear people faking even the identity cards of CBI and police to dupe gullibles. so we shall leave the subject of fakes as each tree will have certain rotten fruits. as regards mehandipur balaji temple in rajasthan, i visited it several times and narrate few things for the benefit of all. 1. visit that mandir only if you have an evil or blackmagic problem. 2. within that mandir complex, do not eat or drink anything except the water bottle you carried with yourself. 3. on the hill above the temple so many possessed people get relieved of their devils on a daily basis. even if you look at them, no problem but do not establish straight eye contact with their eyes. 4. while returning back from the top of that temple, dont look back. 5. do not mix with the locals and restrict yourself to the objective of visiting the holy complex which comprises lord hanuman, bhairav and pretraj. this is the only temple in the world for pretraj. 6. if the evil affected person cannot visit this temple on his own, any of his male relatives can revolve few grains of rice or a coconut thrice around his head and tie it firmly in a red cloth and offer it at the balaji temple. 7. possessed people are kept upside down in a firepit (head directly kept in a firepit) and huge boulders (weighing tons) placed on the possessed persons bodies and some even carrying the fire and eating the fire. do not watch all these wierd scenes. 8. one last word of caution is that do not visit this temple in peak winter season i.e. december and january when due to heavy fog visibility would be hardly few metres. 9. try to be present in the arati given once in the morning and another in the evening. also they would sprinkle the holy water and try to get few drops fall on yourselves. the chottanikkara bhagawati temple in kerala is also wierd where the possessed people hit an iron nail into a tree with thier heads. these two temples (one in rajasthan and the other in kerala) are the best i advise for possessed people to get rid of their evils and black magic. every day thousands are getting cured AFTER BECOMING VICTIMS OF EVILS OR BLACK MAGIC. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun , Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > Dear Arjun Ji, > > It is my request to all the members to address me > directly by my name and not suffixing it with "Ji" or > anything else. > > Arjun Ji, you are absolutely correct that there is a > solution for every problem and remedial measures do > work. > > Actually there are so many quacks and fakes in the > real world, who just prescribe or sell anything. I > have seen many priests taking thousands of rupees for > doing Japam (after sankalp) for various mantras and > they never actually chant the mantra for you. They are > interested in just making the money out of the > troubled native. > > Also, many fake rudraskha rosaries are being sold in > the market. Some people just buy gems, rudraksha, > yantras etc. and use them / wear them without even > cleansing and purifying them. So they do not work at > all and hence it decreases their faith. > > Also in chanting mantra devotion and faith is > necessary. Without devotion or faith, mantra will > yield very less or no results. > > I would like to share my view that if anybody has > advised you to do japam of any mantra, please do it by > yourself as it will do good for you. You may take long > time, however, it will do good for you. Don't try to > go fast to just complete the counting. You may do one > mala in morning and the other in evening and the japam > may complete in months. But it will actually give you > results. If you buy any gem, get it tested for > Goverment Gem Laboratory. There are so many fake gems, > that even the Jewellers get confused. Do remedial > measures (though you may do less) in good way. You > may be slow, results might get slow but there will be > positive results. > > Balaji Temple is really great. One may go there and he > can see that people having these kinds of problems > (black magic etc.) get cured. > > Here is the word of caution. I heard it from one > person who went to Balaji (I am not sure whether it is > true or not, as I heard from somebody else). > > ***** > > When you do the Darshan of Shri Balaji (Lord Hanumana) > and you come back, you may hear some familiar voices > (some times of the deceased people of your family) who > might be calling you by name. Do not look back and > come straight to your dwelling place or home. If you > look back, the black magic will not go away and the > curse will persist. I have also heard similar things > from the people who live in mountains and they say > that some times they hear such voices in mountain > forests and they never look back. > > ****** > > God looks for your devotion, faith and even you chant > his name without any mantra with utmost faith, it will > help you. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > --- panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > > dear neeraj ji > > > > it is good to note various learnt people sharing > > their knowledge on > > this dreaded evil. as you rightly observed, balaji > > mandir at > > mehandipur is a great boon to all such victims of > > blackmagic and i > > visited this temple several times and am aware of > > thousands of > > people getting cured. in my previous mail i > > mentioned this temple > > in north and chotanikkara temple in south as the > > best in india. > > > > rohit with his little knowledge gave a public > > declaration that once > > a person is affected by black magic, no remedy > > works. visiting to > > temples dont work. no havans or poojas work. no > > rudraksha works. > > when i supplied him facts point by point instead of > > answering them > > (for he has no answers) he was adament in rigidly > > sticking to his > > stand. by making such fearful statements he is > > instilling fear in > > the minds of gullible. there is a cure for > > everything. > > > > we shall write more on such subjects because > > suffering people shall > > not be scared away by those like rohit who say that > > once affected, > > there is no cure as no remedy works after getting > > affected. > > > > with best wishes > > pandit arjun > > > > , Neeraj > > Gupta > > <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > > > Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct, > > that > > > some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in > > most of > > > the cases it is our sins of past life that result > > in > > > this. > > > > > > Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of > > these > > > evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name > > > "Balaji" and people who have these kind of > > problems > > > (black magic) go there and they are cured. > > > > > > Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one > > should > > > not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals > > in > > > which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik > > remedies > > > might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people > > who > > > practice taamasik rituals promising to do the > > thing > > > you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short > > > term. > > > > > > Like for example, if one is injured in knee and > > cannot > > > walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply > > > some very effective spray on his knee, he will not > > > feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he > > may be > > > able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for > > > short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will > > > feel more pain, because he is strectching that > > part of > > > body that needs rest, care, patience, healing. > > > > > > Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply > > temporary > > > relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers > > > (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate, > > > perform japam, mantra and it will go away after > > some > > > time permanently. > > > > > > The above was just an example I took to explain > > > Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical > > purposes or > > > doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or > > sprays > > > recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are > > medicines > > > and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please > > > remember this was just an example to clarify the > > > Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Neeraj ji > > > > > > > > Many a times, a person has not done anything > > wrong > > > > (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target > > some > > > > of these kids to harm the natives. and I > > presume, > > > > these can be resolved by competent person only; > > else > > > > we are risking the life of native. > > > > > > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > > > > > > > If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing > > to > > > > do is stop digging. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gupta_neeraj_2000@ > > > > > Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > > > > > > Re: black magic after doing lot > > of > > > > havan and jap why ? > > > > > Neeraj -- Please Explain! > > > > > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative > > > > forces > > > > > such as those practised by Tantriks for bad > > deeds > > > > > (Taamasic basically). > > > > > > > > > > I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a > > bit > > > > of > > > > > it. However, with God's grace and with the > > > > suggestions > > > > > of gurus, I came to know that though these > > taamsic > > > > > remedies produce almost immediate results, > > > > however, > > > > > you end up doing bad karma, and you have to > > pay > > > > later > > > > > (i.e. after some time, you get into more > > trouble, > > > > or > > > > > the suffering is there in some way or > > another). > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Good question that Why negative energies > > > > exist? > > > > > > > > > > To be honest and true, I do not know the real > > or > > > > exact > > > > > answer. But based on my little knowledge, I > > see > > > > that > > > > > the world, human being or anything in this > > world > > > > has > > > > > both negative and positive effects. > > > > > > > > > > Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad > > deeds, > > > > then > > > > > how you will differentiate between good and > > bad. > > > > Some > > > > > thing is cold and the other is hot. In every > > yuga, > > > > you > > > > > will find that negative energies do exist and > > > > people > > > > > do taamsic things and the same is balanced by > > the > > > > > saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs. > > cold > > > > (some > > > > > places are hot, while other are cold), some > > are > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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