black magic after doing lot of havan and jap why ? prafulla ji

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thanx prafulla ji,

the thing is this regarding rudraksha that i really love to wear it,

i have tried 2 mukhi, 4 mukhi, 6 mukhi, 5 mukhi as they are easily

available. and combination of 4 mukhi and 6 mukhi as venus+mercury

many a time.

but what i noticed that there was a lot of change in me.

the first thing was huge anger(gussa)

the second thing was many misshappening.

the third thing was as a young boy i was unable to control myself

regarding wrong things.

moreover in our these days we can't be pure. like eating onions or

nen-veg are strictly prohibited for person who is wearing rudraksha.

so what happened with me, i met with an accident in hilly area when

i was going to shiv temple in the half way.

my friend told me to go back but i don't.

again after few hour i met with accident.(amazing situation) then

i removed the rudraksha.

i tried it many times but was unable to continue. i concluded that

my venus is in 7th so i can't wear it.

moreover my mind says as we take onions, lehsun(garlic) and smtimes

other alcoholic or nonveg things even by mistake so better to remove

this holly thing. you can better understand(its a personal

experience)

regarding ghost:

yes i was right that performing these will not have much effect

afterwards:

the logic is this;

mix two things, u can't seprate them. even if u there would be some

change of state of one.

even see doctors; if they heal any wound then it leaves a scar.right.

now what i wanna say is that in our relatives this happens.

someone has given something in wine to that person.

we tried many ppl and many things.

the person is ok now but it has effecte his brain and nature.

means KASAR REH HI JATI HAI.

my motive to say this was to tell ppl about some precautions that

everyone can take in life so that any black magic should not happen.

but i think the members are making fun of me coz of my age.

let them laugh.

but what i have told is fully according to my own experiences and

not from bookish language.

hope you will unerstand me.

thanx prafulla ji

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Members

>

> Each member may have its own point of view, which is quite

acceptable in a forum. Since many of members (like me) are ignorant

of this subject, so might not be competent to comment on validity of

various statements. Having said that, I strongly feel that we should

not make any personal statement and must respect each other.

>

> This puts an extra burden on participating burden to express their

views, without any personal prejudices and on the members as well to

be generous enough to forgive for any loosely structured statements.

I hope, Pandit Arjun ji will be generous enough to ignore any such

loose statements and continue to share his knowledge. Rohit ji, you

too - please participate without any personal prejudices. Afterall,

many of members like me - will like to learn from the knowledge and

experience of all participating members.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> Examine what is said, not who speaks.

>

>

> >

> > varun_trvd

> > Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:14:04 -0000

> >

> > Re: black magic after doing lot of havan and jap

why ?

> > Neeraj -- Ple

> >

> > Respected Arjun ji,

> >

> > You seem to have summed up the feelings of the group. A very

lucid

> > point by point rebuttal.

> >

> > With naman to all gurujan,

> >

> > Varun Trivedi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >>

> >> dear friend

> >>

> >> you wrote:

> >> "listen all its not a joke: wearing rudraksh or going to temples

> > or

> >> doing hawans cannot cure a person on which black magic has done,

> >> these precautions or remedies can be done before . they won't

help

> >> you afterwards. if you want remedies can contact me in our

group"

> >>

> >> this is an immature and inexperienced statement that wearing

> >> rudraksha or going to temples or doing hawans cannot cure an

> >> abhichara affected person. in other words what we all discuss

in

> >> this group about various remedies of visiting temples, doing

> > havans

> >> and wearing rudraksha wont work and for knowing the only working

> >> remedy in the world, everyone shall visit your group. since you

> >> yourself declared an young boy of 25 years, better you learn

more

> >> before making such comments against the religious practices in a

> >> public group having more than five thousand members. if it is

> > your

> >> personal view you can publicise it in your own group. can you

> >> elaborate on what you said:

> >>

> >> 1. you said no rudraksha can cure abhichara. in shivapuran lord

> >> shiva clearly mentions in vidveshvara samhita 25th chapter that

> >> seeing a person wearing a rudraksha mala, bhut, pret, pisach,

> >> dhakini, shakini and all other evils flee. any abhicharas done

> >> would bounce back from the native after seeing the rudraksha

> > mala.

> >> your surmise that this would work only as a precaution and does

> > not

> >> work after affliction is untrue.

> >>

> >> 2. you said that going to temples cannot cure an abhichara

> > affected

> >> person. there are 101 temples which cured thousands of

abhichara

> >> affected people. mehandipur balaji mandir near bharatpur in

> >> rajasthan and chotanikkara mandir in kerala are the most reputed

> >> temples where thousands of abhichara people got cured AFTER

> > getting

> >> the abhichara.

> >>

> >> 3. you said performing hawans cant cure an abhichara. many

people

> >> after performing various homams including the famous sudarshana

> >> homam got relieved from abhicharas. by brushing these highly

> >> powerful homams as useless post abhichara, you are only

> >> disrespecting them.

> >>

> >> you wrote:

> >> "i don;'t agree with you that rudraksha don't effect married

life

> > or

> >> materialistic things. I don't know how u peoples are saying

> > this????

> >> moreover rudraksha is worn by saints or yogi coz shiv don't like

> >> BHOG. wearing a rudraksha by a person can severely affect over

his

> >> married life. its the fact. I am not lying. rest is upon you

but

> >> rudraksha is not such a thing"

> >>

> >> these lines smack your ignorance of what lord shiva recommended

in

> >> shivapuran and reflects that you have not done your homework

> >> thoroughly. in shivapuran lord shiva clearly says that

> > brahmachari,

> >> vanaprastha, grihastha and sanyasi all can wear rudraksha. all

> >> caste people including shudras and ladies can wear these

> > rudraksha.

> >> rudraksha is a form of shivling itself and it grants BOTH BHOG

AND

> >> MOKSH. lord shiva has written the wearer of rudraksha getting

> > BHOG

> >> in various places in the shivapuran. for thirteen mukh

rudraksha,

> >> lord shiva says that the wearer improves saubhagya and mangalya

> >> meaning conjugal bliss. lord shiva further states that by

seeing

> >> the wearer of a rudraksha besides shiva, vishnu, durga, ganesh,

> >> surya and all other gods would also be pleased. all these

> > sentences

> >> are from shivapuran and not mine.

> >>

> >> dear rohit, also in public groups you shall not use loose

language

> >> like "u people" and make sweeping statements.

> >>

> >> with best wishes and blessings

> >> pandit arjun

> >>

> >> , Rohit Sharma

> >> <dhanulagna@> wrote:

> >>>

> >>> dear the topic was so interesting that i have to jump in it.

> >>> i am just 25 year old boy. having lot of interest in occult

> >> sciences.

> >>> i have a very nice friend whose father is a saint, he has

> > given

> >> me many mantra.

> >>> he used to fight with ghosts in dreams and few days back I

> > too.

> >> its not a joke)

> >>> now regarding why black magic is there:

> >>> friends there are always three types of energy:

> >>> 1) positive

> >>> 2) negative

> >>> 3) neutral

> >>> this could be understood from light energy also:

> >>> positive, negative and neutral.

> >>> magic is black white and neutral prayer of a normal man.)

> >>> yes neerja ji u r right that who perform black magic are in

> > loss

> >> afterwards.

> >>> now as your question why they exist???

> >>> I have little more deep explanation.

> >>> we know that soul is everywhere an the urge of the person

> > never

> >> dies till last breath.

> >>> now if a person has no awakened kundli , no knowledge of god

> >> then two chances are there.

> >>> 1) first is rebirth

> >>> 2) going to hell

> >>> in some cases like accidental deaths of death of such ppls

who

> >> are very much materialistic, they cannot leave this world. there

> >> soul remains wandering here an there.

> >>> in everywhere the souls exist, even it may be sitting near me

> > or

> >> sitting near you. the quantity may vary from place to place. but

> >> they can't harm us.

> >>> they need our body to fulfill their materialistic urges.

> >>> now they can only enter inside through breath or through

mouth

> >> eating).

> >>> now the two cases arises.

> >>> 1) in a normal human being when he/she is sleeping or in

> >> incautious state then they try to enter our body.

> >>> 2) if some one offer us food with some black magic done over

> > it

> >> then they enter in our body.

> >>> but the person who have faith in god and "PEHRA OVER HIS

> > SWASS"

> >> then they cannot enter.

> >>> if such a person eats the food on which some black magic is

> > done

> >> then it results in loose motions or vomiting an thus the thing

> >> cannot well in the body of such person.

> >>> listen dear you have said wrong that shiv use this negative

> >> powers for his benefits.

> >>> let me clear this also:

> >>> every other DEV dislikes negative things but it is the only

> >> SHIVA (whom I love a lot) who treats everybody equally, is its

> > RAWAN

> >> OR RAM. shiv does not have urge for materialistic things. he

love

> >> his disciple an don't sees his/her bad things.

> >>> that's why he is called BHOLEY BABA. these negative powers

> > love

> >> them coz SHIV don't dislike anybody due to its looks. SHIV

proves

> >> the saying:

> >>> "hate the sin not the sinner"

> >>> it was only the shiv who drank the POISON during samundra

> >> manthan.

> >>> SHIV is great.

> >>> he is great for his act that he treat everbody equally. he

> > only

> >> see the bhakti and not the nature.

> >>> now let me specify some indications which represent black

> > magic

> >> over a person:

> >>> 1) such person will have heat in his/her ear lobes

> >>> 2) such person will have less blinking speed of eyelashes

> >>> 3) such person will feel heat in palm and soles.

> >>> 4) such person will wake up at same time during night

> >>> 5) such person will feel lazy during morning and active

during

> >> night

> >>> 6) such person will start taking more food as compared to

> > early

> >> diet

> >>> 7) such person will start shouting unnecessary

> >>> 8) such person will start living alone, means his/her

activity

> >> toward group decreases

> >>> 9) such a person will start talking with himself.

> >>> many more points i knew but these are few.

> >>> Remedies:

> >>> listen all its not a joke:

> >>> wearing rudraksh or going to temples or doing hawans cannot

> > cure

> >> a person on which black magic has done, these precautions or

> >> remedies can be done before . they won't help you afterwards.

> >>> if you want remedies can contact me in our group:

> >>> laalkitab

> >>> now regarding rudraksha:

> >>> i don;'t agree with you that rudraksha don't effect married

> > life

> >> or materialistic things.

> >>> I don't know how u peoples are saying this????

> >>> its very precious and gods thing

> >>> lord shiv lives in rudraksha.

> >>> suppose a married person will wear it and during night if he

> >> touches it in a wrong way can understand what I want to say)

> >>> it will be a wall between u and ur spouse.

> >>> think of it, moreover rudraksha is worn by saints or yogi coz

> >> shiv don't like BHOG.

> >>> in our materialistic world we as a GRASTHI are bhogi.

> >>> shiv was not in bhog. maa PAARVATI did a long TAPASEYA to

> >> convince SHIV for marriage. and even after several years she was

> >> unable to get son.

> >>> this show that SHIV like YOG and not BHOG.

> >>> wearing a rudraksha by a person can severely affect over his

> >> married life.

> >>> its the fact. I am not lying.

> >>> rest is upon you but rudraksha is not such a thing:

> >>> "jisne bhi socha kuch paisey diye aur galey me daal liya"

> >>> its the aksh of shiv:

> >>> means tear of shiva.

> >>> its well described in purans.

> >>> rest is upon you peoples, I don't want to hurt anybody.

> >>> Regards

> >>> Rohit Sharma

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Rohit Sharma

> >>> (sunny)

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> >>> 91-9876416285

> >>>

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