Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 dear friends i agree with pandit arjun jis wording and also tell other members that there are practical astrologer and sadhak ( healers ) are in this group . which are enough mature. regards , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friend > > you wrote: > "listen all its not a joke: wearing rudraksh or going to temples or > doing hawans cannot cure a person on which black magic has done, > these precautions or remedies can be done before . they won't help > you afterwards. if you want remedies can contact me in our group" > > this is an immature and inexperienced statement that wearing > rudraksha or going to temples or doing hawans cannot cure an > abhichara affected person. in other words what we all discuss in > this group about various remedies of visiting temples, doing havans > and wearing rudraksha wont work and for knowing the only working > remedy in the world, everyone shall visit your group. since you > yourself declared an young boy of 25 years, better you learn more > before making such comments against the religious practices in a > public group having more than five thousand members. if it is your > personal view you can publicise it in your own group. can you > elaborate on what you said: > > 1. you said no rudraksha can cure abhichara. in shivapuran lord > shiva clearly mentions in vidveshvara samhita 25th chapter that > seeing a person wearing a rudraksha mala, bhut, pret, pisach, > dhakini, shakini and all other evils flee. any abhicharas done > would bounce back from the native after seeing the rudraksha mala. > your surmise that this would work only as a precaution and does not > work after affliction is untrue. > > 2. you said that going to temples cannot cure an abhichara affected > person. there are 101 temples which cured thousands of abhichara > affected people. mehandipur balaji mandir near bharatpur in > rajasthan and chotanikkara mandir in kerala are the most reputed > temples where thousands of abhichara people got cured AFTER getting > the abhichara. > > 3. you said performing hawans cant cure an abhichara. many people > after performing various homams including the famous sudarshana > homam got relieved from abhicharas. by brushing these highly > powerful homams as useless post abhichara, you are only > disrespecting them. > > you wrote: > "i don;'t agree with you that rudraksha don't effect married life or > materialistic things. I don't know how u peoples are saying this???? > moreover rudraksha is worn by saints or yogi coz shiv don't like > BHOG. wearing a rudraksha by a person can severely affect over his > married life. its the fact. I am not lying. rest is upon you but > rudraksha is not such a thing" > > these lines smack your ignorance of what lord shiva recommended in > shivapuran and reflects that you have not done your homework > thoroughly. in shivapuran lord shiva clearly says that brahmachari, > vanaprastha, grihastha and sanyasi all can wear rudraksha. all > caste people including shudras and ladies can wear these rudraksha. > rudraksha is a form of shivling itself and it grants BOTH BHOG AND > MOKSH. lord shiva has written the wearer of rudraksha getting BHOG > in various places in the shivapuran. for thirteen mukh rudraksha, > lord shiva says that the wearer improves saubhagya and mangalya > meaning conjugal bliss. lord shiva further states that by seeing > the wearer of a rudraksha besides shiva, vishnu, durga, ganesh, > surya and all other gods would also be pleased. all these sentences > are from shivapuran and not mine. > > dear rohit, also in public groups you shall not use loose language > like "u people" and make sweeping statements. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > > , Rohit Sharma > <dhanulagna@> wrote: > > > > dear the topic was so interesting that i have to jump in it. > > i am just 25 year old boy. having lot of interest in occult > sciences. > > i have a very nice friend whose father is a saint, he has given > me many mantra. > > he used to fight with ghosts in dreams and few days back I too. > its not a joke) > > now regarding why black magic is there: > > friends there are always three types of energy: > > 1) positive > > 2) negative > > 3) neutral > > this could be understood from light energy also: > > positive, negative and neutral. > > magic is black white and neutral prayer of a normal man.) > > yes neerja ji u r right that who perform black magic are in loss > afterwards. > > now as your question why they exist??? > > I have little more deep explanation. > > we know that soul is everywhere an the urge of the person never > dies till last breath. > > now if a person has no awakened kundli , no knowledge of god > then two chances are there. > > 1) first is rebirth > > 2) going to hell > > in some cases like accidental deaths of death of such ppls who > are very much materialistic, they cannot leave this world. there > soul remains wandering here an there. > > in everywhere the souls exist, even it may be sitting near me or > sitting near you. the quantity may vary from place to place. but > they can't harm us. > > they need our body to fulfill their materialistic urges. > > now they can only enter inside through breath or through mouth > eating). > > now the two cases arises. > > 1) in a normal human being when he/she is sleeping or in > incautious state then they try to enter our body. > > 2) if some one offer us food with some black magic done over it > then they enter in our body. > > but the person who have faith in god and "PEHRA OVER HIS SWASS" > then they cannot enter. > > if such a person eats the food on which some black magic is done > then it results in loose motions or vomiting an thus the thing > cannot well in the body of such person. > > listen dear you have said wrong that shiv use this negative > powers for his benefits. > > let me clear this also: > > every other DEV dislikes negative things but it is the only > SHIVA (whom I love a lot) who treats everybody equally, is its RAWAN > OR RAM. shiv does not have urge for materialistic things. he love > his disciple an don't sees his/her bad things. > > that's why he is called BHOLEY BABA. these negative powers love > them coz SHIV don't dislike anybody due to its looks. SHIV proves > the saying: > > "hate the sin not the sinner" > > it was only the shiv who drank the POISON during samundra > manthan. > > SHIV is great. > > he is great for his act that he treat everbody equally. he only > see the bhakti and not the nature. > > now let me specify some indications which represent black magic > over a person: > > 1) such person will have heat in his/her ear lobes > > 2) such person will have less blinking speed of eyelashes > > 3) such person will feel heat in palm and soles. > > 4) such person will wake up at same time during night > > 5) such person will feel lazy during morning and active during > night > > 6) such person will start taking more food as compared to early > diet > > 7) such person will start shouting unnecessary > > 8) such person will start living alone, means his/her activity > toward group decreases > > 9) such a person will start talking with himself. > > many more points i knew but these are few. > > Remedies: > > listen all its not a joke: > > wearing rudraksh or going to temples or doing hawans cannot cure > a person on which black magic has done, these precautions or > remedies can be done before . they won't help you afterwards. > > if you want remedies can contact me in our group: > > laalkitab > > now regarding rudraksha: > > i don;'t agree with you that rudraksha don't effect married life > or materialistic things. > > I don't know how u peoples are saying this???? > > its very precious and gods thing > > lord shiv lives in rudraksha. > > suppose a married person will wear it and during night if he > touches it in a wrong way can understand what I want to say) > > it will be a wall between u and ur spouse. > > think of it, moreover rudraksha is worn by saints or yogi coz > shiv don't like BHOG. > > in our materialistic world we as a GRASTHI are bhogi. > > shiv was not in bhog. maa PAARVATI did a long TAPASEYA to > convince SHIV for marriage. and even after several years she was > unable to get son. > > this show that SHIV like YOG and not BHOG. > > wearing a rudraksha by a person can severely affect over his > married life. > > its the fact. I am not lying. > > rest is upon you but rudraksha is not such a thing: > > "jisne bhi socha kuch paisey diye aur galey me daal liya" > > its the aksh of shiv: > > means tear of shiva. > > its well described in purans. > > rest is upon you peoples, I don't want to hurt anybody. > > Regards > > Rohit Sharma > > > > > > Rohit Sharma > > (sunny) > > 91-9888079834 > > 91-9876416285 > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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