remedy for mr. pradeep sahai - - -

[Guest guest]

If you observe carefully the present tradition itself, you can get

the whole concept without referring to any Holy Scripture. When a

householder dies the rituals are performed and a cow is donated so

that the diseased person can cross `Vaitarini' (river of blood and

pus) present before hell. This clearly shows that every householder

is going to hell. The householder is doing Gayatri Japa, wearing the

cross belt, worshipping the inert statues and photos etc., When a

saint dies such rituals are not performed. This clearly proves that

a saint goes to Brahma Loka and not to the Hell.

 

The saint leaves Gayatri Japa, throws away the cross belts, does not

worship inert statues and photos. A saint always propagates the

divine knowledge in the world. The present tradition also shows that

all the householders prostrate at the feet of the saint. This shows

that the stage of the saint is certainly higher than the stage of

the householder. This shows that everybody should pass from high

school to the college. All the rituals should be protected like the

high school for the future ignorant batches. We never say that since

you left the school the school should be destroyed.

 

We are saying only that you should leave the school and go to the

college i.e., you should not die as a householder but you should die

as a saint. Leaving the house and wearing the saffron cloth are not

necessary for a saint, which are external only. A policeman

sometimes does his duty in mufti without the uniform. An actor

wearing the police uniform cannot be the real police. Therefore

anybody can become a saint by participating in the propagation of

divine knowledge and working for the welfare of the entire humanity

without the saffron cloth and without leaving the house.

 

A householder is burning camphor, fume sticks, oil and ghee in the

lamps and in Yajnas causing lot of pollution and stopping the rains.

He is harming the humanity by such foolish deeds, which are not

mentioned in Vedas. Some ignorant preachers fooled public by such

deeds and he is not benefited at all. A saint never does these

things because he cannot be fooled since he attained the Jnana.

Therefore confining to the present tradition itself, one can get the

true knowledge without going to the scriptures. The ancient Indian

sages (rishis) who are the real saints set up this tradition. When

you do not understand even the tradition that is before your eyes,

how can you understand the Vedas and Sastras?

 

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

http://www.universal-spirituality.org

 

 

"panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear friend

>

> as explained in my previous mails, after death the body needs to

be cremated and the graveyard keeper ensures that kapala moksham

> happens i.e. the skulls breaks with a thud sound and the soul

> departs from the body and sometimes its journey was also seen with

> the fire following up to certain height. these are all eerie

scenes which is why children and women are not allowed in the

graveyard. if any dead body is just thrown into the sea or buried,

the atma

> stays there. many tantriks dig up the graves and take out these

> skulls to control that soul and perform petty miracles. the

> bottomline is that if dahana samskaar has been performed to the

> deadbody, rest assured the departed soul is happy. also after the

> departure, twelve days a pindam is offered on a daily basis.

 

> last year one of my customers was suffering from such curses from

> his ancestors and he visited gaya and performed this naandi

> shraddh. within a month he and his brother got promotions and are

> happy.

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

[Guest guest]

dear surya ji

 

whatever you have written is true but is targeted for the realised

persons. this group mostly has suffering natives who have not

achieved self realisation. hence the advice of stopping all poojas

and pariharams is not sane to ordinary laymen.

 

as you pointed out on school and college, as you are aware, a person

passing out from a school (10th class) does not have the capacity to

teach the 10th class children. a graduate or a post graduage would

teach the 10th class children. similary a post graduate and other

higher Phds will teach the graduates etc.

 

similarly only a realised person can preach to the unrealised

persons. however, my experience says that realisation shall not be

thrust on a native by enlightening him that the entire world is

maya. if a person with his family i.e. wife and children approaches

you, you dont tell him to leave the wife, children and job and

become a renounced religious person. recently a person came to me

lamenting that he approached a guru who asked him to leave his job

and dedicate himself to the guru and his ashram for serving the

humanity at large. after two years, the guru passed away and his

successor had no love for this poor man. so he is back to his home

searching for a job.

 

you may open a new group on realisation and renouncement where

desirous people interested in renounced all the worldly mayas and

realising the ultimate reality i.e. god will join there, i would be

the first member of your such group.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

, "surya" <dattapr2000

wrote:

>

> If you observe carefully the present tradition itself, you can get

> the whole concept without referring to any Holy Scripture. When a

> householder dies the rituals are performed and a cow is donated so

> that the diseased person can cross `Vaitarini' (river of blood and

> pus) present before hell. This clearly shows that every

householder

> is going to hell. The householder is doing Gayatri Japa, wearing

the

> cross belt, worshipping the inert statues and photos etc., When a

> saint dies such rituals are not performed. This clearly proves

that

> a saint goes to Brahma Loka and not to the Hell.

>

> The saint leaves Gayatri Japa, throws away the cross belts, does

not

> worship inert statues and photos. A saint always propagates the

> divine knowledge in the world. The present tradition also shows

that

> all the householders prostrate at the feet of the saint. This

shows

> that the stage of the saint is certainly higher than the stage of

> the householder. This shows that everybody should pass from high

> school to the college. All the rituals should be protected like

the

> high school for the future ignorant batches. We never say that

since

> you left the school the school should be destroyed.

>

> We are saying only that you should leave the school and go to the

> college i.e., you should not die as a householder but you should

die

> as a saint. Leaving the house and wearing the saffron cloth are

not

> necessary for a saint, which are external only. A policeman

> sometimes does his duty in mufti without the uniform. An actor

> wearing the police uniform cannot be the real police. Therefore

> anybody can become a saint by participating in the propagation of

> divine knowledge and working for the welfare of the entire

humanity

> without the saffron cloth and without leaving the house.

>

> A householder is burning camphor, fume sticks, oil and ghee in the

> lamps and in Yajnas causing lot of pollution and stopping the

rains.

> He is harming the humanity by such foolish deeds, which are not

> mentioned in Vedas. Some ignorant preachers fooled public by such

> deeds and he is not benefited at all. A saint never does these

> things because he cannot be fooled since he attained the Jnana.

> Therefore confining to the present tradition itself, one can get

the

> true knowledge without going to the scriptures. The ancient Indian

> sages (rishis) who are the real saints set up this tradition. When

> you do not understand even the tradition that is before your eyes,

> how can you understand the Vedas and Sastras?

>

> At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

> surya

> http://www.universal-spirituality.org

>

>

> "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friend

> >

> > as explained in my previous mails, after death the body needs to

> be cremated and the graveyard keeper ensures that kapala moksham

> > happens i.e. the skulls breaks with a thud sound and the soul

> > departs from the body and sometimes its journey was also seen

with

> > the fire following up to certain height. these are all eerie

> scenes which is why children and women are not allowed in the

> graveyard. if any dead body is just thrown into the sea or

buried,

> the atma

> > stays there. many tantriks dig up the graves and take out these

> > skulls to control that soul and perform petty miracles. the

> > bottomline is that if dahana samskaar has been performed to the

> > deadbody, rest assured the departed soul is happy. also after

the

> > departure, twelve days a pindam is offered on a daily basis.

>

> > last year one of my customers was suffering from such curses

from

> > his ancestors and he visited gaya and performed this naandi

> > shraddh. within a month he and his brother got promotions and

are

> > happy.

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

>

[Guest guest]

The Veda says that one can enter the Sanyasa Ashrama (monkhood,

renunciation) on any day and there is no time limit for any Ashrama

or stage in life (Yada hareva Virajet). Sanyasa Ashrama does not

mean leaving the house and wearing the saffron cloth. Whenever you

receive the divine knowledge and whenever you are propagating that

divine knowledge in this world by discarding all rituals, idol

worship, the so-called Gayatri Mantra and the sacred thread (which

is only a model indicating that you should catch the Lord in human

form), you have become a saint (monk). The external dress is not

necessary. The maturity of mind and the sharp analysis of the

intelligence, in search of the truth, make you a saint.

 

Leaving Grihastha Ashrama (stage of householder) does not mean

leaving the home and family. It means cutting your family bonds in

your heart. Similarly taking Sanyasa Ashrama does not mean wearing

the saffron cloth. It means attaining the divine knowledge and

propagating it in this world. There is no time limit and it should

not be taken in an external physical sense. All this is only in the

internal spiritual sense. Thus on any day, one can become a sanyasi.

 

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

http://www.universal-spirituality.org

 

 

"panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote:

> dear surya ji

> whatever you have written is true but is targeted for the realised

> persons. this group mostly has suffering natives who have not

> achieved self realisation. hence the advice of stopping all

poojas and pariharams is not sane to ordinary laymen.

as you pointed out on school and college, as you are aware, a person

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun