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dear friends

how we know that a person had some bad stars or due to blak magic he

or she is facing problems. Is thesee kriyas like maaran , mohan

vashikaran , ucchattan , keelan , and many others can be done without

knowing of the person ( victim ). i mean to say without that person

come in contact with any tantrik and still they effect him ?. people

also say that when pitra of a person annoyed for him than such

problems occur otherwise his pitra shield him from such effects ?

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