Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Dear Folks My friend and I are having this debate. Please follow this and let me know what you think. Scenario 1 1. I will give you the chart of 10 people (all 100% correct charts). There is one job to be taken and within 1 day everybody does the interview and the decision will be made the same day. Please answer yes or no with examples and notes as required. Question 1: Will you (the astrologer) predict who will get the job? Yes or No Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post event). Give examples Scenario 2 I will give you the chart of 16 nations (assume all 100% correct) that make it to top 16 in the Soccer world cup. Question 1 Will you (the astrologer) predict who will win the cup? Assume date of the finals is known Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post event). Give examples Thanks to everybody in advance who will answer these questions without side tracking the issue. Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Dear M, my response would be that to do ten charts for such an event you describe would take some time, but for the job interviews I would have a go. I have done something similar before but in more of a fun context but was quite pleased with the result. For the 16 nations for the soccer cup I wouldn't take part, but you say THE chart for sixteen nations, implying only one chart for all, do you mean you will give sixteen charts one for each nation? I am not sure this is the response you wanted as you seemed to present these questions as a debate between you and a friend, what was the debate about? best M - M. Sharma Monday, June 19, 2006 7:37 PM Questions to all astrologers Dear Folks My friend and I are having this debate. Please follow this and let me know what you think. Scenario 1 1. I will give you the chart of 10 people (all 100% correct charts). There is one job to be taken and within 1 day everybody does the interview and the decision will be made the same day. Please answer yes or no with examples and notes as required. Question 1: Will you (the astrologer) predict who will get the job? Yes or No Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post event). Give examples Scenario 2 I will give you the chart of 16 nations (assume all 100% correct) that make it to top 16 in the Soccer world cup. Question 1 Will you (the astrologer) predict who will win the cup? Assume date of the finals is known Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post event). Give examples Thanks to everybody in advance who will answer these questions without side tracking the issue. Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear Margaret > For the 16 nations for the soccer cup I wouldn't take part, but you say THE chart for sixteen nations, implying only one chart for all, do you mean you will give sixteen charts one for each nation? > > one horoscope for each country - assume we know the time of birth for each country. COnceptually it is similar to interview success question. The debate was about predicting success in sports (NBA, cricket etc). If one has the chart of coach, captain and some main players of both sides, can we predict who is going to win cup (finals)? My answer is yes. I am certain people have done it before and predicted succesfully. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Sri Rao has done it many times successfully,using charts of some of the players. > [Original Message] > M. Sharma <nakshatras > > <> > 6/19/2006 6:34:31 PM > Re: Questions to all astrologers > > Dear Margaret > > > For the 16 nations for the soccer cup I wouldn't take part, but you > say THE chart for sixteen nations, implying only one chart for all, do > you mean you will give sixteen charts one for each nation? > > > > > one horoscope for each country - assume we know the time of birth for > each country. COnceptually it is similar to interview success question. > > The debate was about predicting success in sports (NBA, cricket etc). > If one has the chart of coach, captain and some main players of both > sides, can we predict who is going to win cup (finals)? > > My answer is yes. I am certain people have done it before and > predicted succesfully. > > M > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Hi, I am sure people will predict when we know who are the two in the finals. If the teams are well matched its just a guessing game at that time, 50 % will be right and the other 50% will be wrong. The ones who are right will gloat in their glory and the other 50% will try again next time hoping for better luck. As this is an hypothetical case one can say anything as 16 accurate charts is a dream state even hypothetically. Satish --- "M. Sharma" <nakshatras > wrote: > Dear Margaret > > > For the 16 nations for the soccer cup I wouldn't > take part, but you > say THE chart for sixteen nations, implying only one > chart for all, do > you mean you will give sixteen charts one for each > nation? > > > > > one horoscope for each country - assume we know the > time of birth for > each country. COnceptually it is similar to > interview success question. > > The debate was about predicting success in sports > (NBA, cricket etc). > If one has the chart of coach, captain and some main > players of both > sides, can we predict who is going to win cup > (finals)? > > My answer is yes. I am certain people have done it > before and > predicted succesfully. > > M > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Namaste Manjunathji Why wait for the same? I think this exercise should be done. It will be an excellent experience. I was thinking on the same lines for the Miss India contest earlier this year. I could not get the birth details of contestants in time. If you have the correct data of nations, I'd love to participate. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 6/20/06, M. Sharma <nakshatras > wrote: > > Dear Folks > My friend and I are having this debate. Please follow this and let > me know what you think. > > Scenario 1 > 1. I will give you the chart of 10 people (all 100% correct charts). > There is one job to be taken and within 1 day everybody does the > interview and the decision will be made the same day. > > Please answer yes or no with examples and notes as required. > > Question 1: Will you (the astrologer) predict who will get the job? > Yes or No > Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post > event). Give examples > > Scenario 2 > > I will give you the chart of 16 nations (assume all 100% correct) > that make it to top 16 in the Soccer world cup. > Question 1 > Will you (the astrologer) predict who will win the cup? Assume date > of the finals is known > Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post > event). Give examples > > Thanks to everybody in advance who will answer these questions > without side tracking the issue. > > Manjunath Sharma > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Scenario 1 Question 1: Will you (the astrologer) predict who will get the job? Yes Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post > event). Give examples Did not do this earlier for want of proper data Scenario 2 Question 1 Will you (the astrologer) predict who will win the cup? Assume date of the finals is known Will try Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post event). Give examples Did not do this earlier for want of proper data. with regards, sreeram srinivas sreeram64 (AT) satyam (DOT) net.in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Please elaborate and explain what you mean by "proper" data? How would you ascertain that accurate data have indeed been provided to you? More often than not, that is where the 'Devil is in the details!" At least in-so-far-as astrological quizzes goes ...! , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > Scenario 1 > Question 1: Will you (the astrologer) predict who will get the job? > Yes > Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post > > event). Give examples > Did not do this earlier for want of proper data > > > Scenario 2 > > Question 1 > Will you (the astrologer) predict who will win the cup? Assume date > of the finals is known > Will try > Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post > event). Give examples > Did not do this earlier for want of proper data. > > with regards, > > sreeram srinivas > sreeram64 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaste Manjunathji > > Why wait for the same? I think this exercise should be done. It will be an excellent experience. I was thinking on the same lines for the Miss India contest earlier this year. I could not get the birth details of contestants in time. Dear Bharat, Unlike sport, arts and beauty are not formally competitive. The whole point about sport is that competition is its essence. Competition in the arts, although dating back to ancient times (Nero was particularly fond of winning first prizes for music - unsurprisingly he won every competition he entered), is incidental. I'm a touch skeptical about the validity of an exercise involving beauty pageantry, especially if you're trying to ascertain which girl would get to be on top (pun unintended) +++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Namaste Sri Verna Yes, it is not a competition in the sense of other competitive sports and I did not intend to treat it thus. My exercise would have been to find out what makes one person be crowned Miss India and achieve fame, gifts, interviews, etc. whereas, others are left out. It would have been a fascinating exercise. Well, this is out of context as I wouldn't want to dilute this thread. I just hope we get down to analyzing the top 16 teams and predict for each match. I wouldn't care even if I am 100% wrong, atleast I'll understand the extent of my ignorance in Astrology. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 6/22/06, vernalagnia <vernalagnia > wrote: > > <%40>, > "Bharat Hindu Astrology" > > <hinduastrology wrote: > > > > Namaste Manjunathji > > > > Why wait for the same? I think this exercise should be done. It will > be an excellent experience. I was thinking on the same lines for the > Miss India contest earlier this year. I could not get the birth > details of contestants in time. > > Dear Bharat, > > Unlike sport, arts and beauty are not formally competitive. The whole > point about sport is that competition is its essence. Competition in > the arts, although dating back to ancient times (Nero was particularly > fond of winning first prizes for music - unsurprisingly he won every > competition he entered), is incidental. > > I'm a touch skeptical about the validity of an exercise involving > beauty pageantry, especially if you're trying to ascertain which girl > would get to be on top (pun unintended) > > +++ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaste Sri Verna > > Yes, it is not a competition in the sense of other competitive sports and I > did not intend to treat it thus. My exercise would have been to find out > what makes one person be crowned Miss India and achieve fame, gifts, > interviews, etc. whereas, others are left out. It would have been a > fascinating exercise. > > Well, this is out of context as I wouldn't want to dilute this thread. I > just hope we get down to analyzing the top 16 teams and predict for each > match. I wouldn't care even if I am 100% wrong, atleast I'll understand the > extent of my ignorance in Astrology. Couldn't concur more. No better way to hone one's skills - or as in my case, the lack of it +++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||* Hariom, Dear Friends , There is a group where predictions are made before the event and coming true alrady. No one apperas to have posted Data to enable one to try. a sample is pasted. By the way this group on MSN deals in KP astrology and SE a variation of System analysis.Basically Solar returns in principals is employed in slight modified form.This is just for information to those interested. ------ pranavsiva Friends, As predicted earlier in this list, both Argentina & Holland won in yesterdays match. For Ref here is one of the posting. Members may take note , whenever the match end in "Tie", my predictions goes wrong. Technical details Query--Will Argentina win in todays match against Serbia & Montenegroe ? The KP Horary No is 33 KP RULE--VI or XI cuspal sublord connected to II,III,VI,Xor XI denotes success Analysis XI cuspal sublord Mn owns III & is a significator of III. Hence concluded Argentina will win & Argentina did win. Query--Will Ivory coast win in todays match against Holland ? The KP Horary No is 75 Analysis---The XI cuspal sublord Mercury strong significator of XII & VI cuspal sublord Mars a strong significator of XII.Hence concluded Ivory coast will be defeated & Ivory coast lost the game to Holland exactly as predicted Pranav Attachment--Worksheet of Argentina & Ivorycoast _______----------------------_________ pasted message ends here. || May all people be happy || OM TAT SAT R.C.Srivastava . swami_rcs mob 9412268768 http://www.cosmograce.com http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Sharmaji, Perhaps someone using prashna can answer these questions. For example using the KP system. Any other method may not work as well due to obvious reasons. Regards, Pradeep - M. Sharma Tuesday, June 20, 2006 12:07 AM Questions to all astrologers Dear Folks My friend and I are having this debate. Please follow this and let me know what you think. Scenario 1 1. I will give you the chart of 10 people (all 100% correct charts). There is one job to be taken and within 1 day everybody does the interview and the decision will be made the same day. Please answer yes or no with examples and notes as required. Question 1: Will you (the astrologer) predict who will get the job? Yes or No Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post event). Give examples Scenario 2 I will give you the chart of 16 nations (assume all 100% correct) that make it to top 16 in the Soccer world cup. Question 1 Will you (the astrologer) predict who will win the cup? Assume date of the finals is known Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post event). Give examples Thanks to everybody in advance who will answer these questions without side tracking the issue. Manjunath Sharma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 , "Pradeep" <psd1955 wrote: > > Sharmaji, > Perhaps someone using prashna can answer these questions. For example using the KP system. Any other method may not work as well due to obvious reasons. > Regards, > Pradeep Dear Pradeep, The foundation of prasna shastra is a query-answer model. A querist queries and the astrologer, based on various factors, prognosticates. I'm not sure whether a prasna like "Who can win?" by the astrologer to himself would fetch as proper an answer as something like "Will I win?" by a particular person (participant). +++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Bharat, I have done this for US Supreme Court justices to see why Roberts became the Chief Justice (after the event) with 6 horoscopes of other Superme Court Justices. My point was to see if we can do this before the event and predict succesfully. With the correct horoscopes the answer is yes. We could do this using Chaitra Sukla pratipada horoscopes for all the 16 nations that go to next round of world cup. Manjunath Sharma , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaste Manjunathji > > Why wait for the same? I think this exercise should be done. It will be an > excellent experience. I was thinking on the same lines for the Miss India > contest earlier this year. I could not get the birth details of contestants > in time. > > If you have the correct data of nations, I'd love to participate. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 6/20/06, M. Sharma <nakshatras wrote: > > > > Dear Folks > > My friend and I are having this debate. Please follow this and let > > me know what you think. > > > > Scenario 1 > > 1. I will give you the chart of 10 people (all 100% correct charts). > > There is one job to be taken and within 1 day everybody does the > > interview and the decision will be made the same day. > > > > Please answer yes or no with examples and notes as required. > > > > Question 1: Will you (the astrologer) predict who will get the job? > > Yes or No > > Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post > > event). Give examples > > > > Scenario 2 > > > > I will give you the chart of 16 nations (assume all 100% correct) > > that make it to top 16 in the Soccer world cup. > > Question 1 > > Will you (the astrologer) predict who will win the cup? Assume date > > of the finals is known > > Question 2: Have you done this kind of exercise (ex ante or ex post > > event). Give examples > > > > Thanks to everybody in advance who will answer these questions > > without side tracking the issue. > > > > Manjunath Sharma > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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