Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 The terrain of astrology and astrologers remains a bit shrouded in mystery. Astrologers often fathom and tell about an individual to an uncanny extent and some do well in quizzes etc. and even in live cases. However, there is never a guarantee, never that near 100% success that would seem to indicate that a 'technique' is involved. Technique is always transferable to others. For basic astrology, yes that is the case and there is definitely a technical aspect to astrology. That is the absolute essential matriculation that no one can get away with, slogging through! No short cuts, there, I am afraid! But then everyone seems to kind of part company and goes their own slightly different ways. That is when sometimes 'claims' start floating without demonstration. A veil of secrecy somehow falls on some and cliques and silos form. Some silos grow but then begin to form sub-silos and so on. The demonstrated performance of astrology or astrologer, does not shine forth, though! Astrology and astrologer it seems never matures! More often than not, before the astrologer can mature into perfection, they find another door that leads them to spiritual realities. This is fine, because I have heard reputable astrologers state that that is the natural course of things. Someone please tell me that I am wrong and they have actually experienced in their personal experience an astrologer, who was not a divinator or spiritual yogi who just happened to be using astrology as a launching pad. One who could really pick a chart and actually see the nativity and his or her fate as it was written by the Scribe Himself (or Herself or Itself...). Astrology spans from the material to the immaterial and beyond. It is claimed to capture in its essence the entire universe and more, and all the realities that there are, some known others unknown. Past liftimes and future lifetimes. Even Einstein, it seems was a 'determinist'. He believed in everything being fated! I had been reading a very interesting book written by a quantum physicist, Kaku. The book is Parallel Worlds. Brilliant guys these quantum physicists! Big E is quoted therein. It deals with the possibilities of parallel universes and many other subtle things that astrologers would really enjoy I think! There are hints there to think about for us about karma and destiny and a model that can be utilized to possibly explain or at least entertain why this entire reality can be based on pure determinism and everything being fated and yet make sense! This is one thing I have always resisted against because if everything is fated, what is the point of astrology and remedies and muhurtas and so on. But there could be another much BIGGER framework which may actually make it all work! And it also accommodates the extremely humble "I am nimitta matra, Sai sabda khiyaal rakhdaa" point of view! It also touches upon how Newtonian Reality and Quantum reality can coexist and just be a manifestation of probability! Brilliant!! RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Sir, You always amaze me. Tatvam-Asi crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: The terrain of astrology and astrologers remains a bit shrouded in mystery. Astrologers often fathom and tell about an individual to an uncanny extent and some do well in quizzes etc. and even in live cases. However, there is never a guarantee, never that near 100% success that would seem to indicate that a 'technique' is involved. Technique is always transferable to others. For basic astrology, yes that is the case and there is definitely a technical aspect to astrology. That is the absolute essential matriculation that no one can get away with, slogging through! No short cuts, there, I am afraid! But then everyone seems to kind of part company and goes their own slightly different ways. That is when sometimes 'claims' start floating without demonstration. A veil of secrecy somehow falls on some and cliques and silos form. Some silos grow but then begin to form sub-silos and so on. The demonstrated performance of astrology or astrologer, does not shine forth, though! Astrology and astrologer it seems never matures! More often than not, before the astrologer can mature into perfection, they find another door that leads them to spiritual realities. This is fine, because I have heard reputable astrologers state that that is the natural course of things. Someone please tell me that I am wrong and they have actually experienced in their personal experience an astrologer, who was not a divinator or spiritual yogi who just happened to be using astrology as a launching pad. One who could really pick a chart and actually see the nativity and his or her fate as it was written by the Scribe Himself (or Herself or Itself...). Astrology spans from the material to the immaterial and beyond. It is claimed to capture in its essence the entire universe and more, and all the realities that there are, some known others unknown. Past liftimes and future lifetimes. Even Einstein, it seems was a 'determinist'. He believed in everything being fated! I had been reading a very interesting book written by a quantum physicist, Kaku. The book is Parallel Worlds. Brilliant guys these quantum physicists! Big E is quoted therein. It deals with the possibilities of parallel universes and many other subtle things that astrologers would really enjoy I think! There are hints there to think about for us about karma and destiny and a model that can be utilized to possibly explain or at least entertain why this entire reality can be based on pure determinism and everything being fated and yet make sense! This is one thing I have always resisted against because if everything is fated, what is the point of astrology and remedies and muhurtas and so on. But there could be another much BIGGER framework which may actually make it all work! And it also accommodates the extremely humble "I am nimitta matra, Sai sabda khiyaal rakhdaa" point of view! It also touches upon how Newtonian Reality and Quantum reality can coexist and just be a manifestation of probability! Brilliant!! RR Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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