Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Dear SanjayP, Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing physical ailments. The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house they bought. We had all the time in the world and I did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their kavachas in addition to mantras. The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus was a functional malefic for the people I was doing the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord and occupies the 6th house of sickness. In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give sickness and health problems. And, there I was, sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a couple of times and figures out the tune and plays it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of having no formal training in any kind of music). Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to push his agenda! Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > > Regarding prayers, kavachas of various deities and planets are the > > best protection from physical ailments. > > A good reference I would suggest to Jyotishas is to have compilation > "Navagraha Kosha" for this, > > Navagraha Kosa (In 2 Volumes) S.K. Ramachandra > Rao<http://www.bagchee.com/qsearch.aspx?page=0&SerFld=Author&qsearch=true&page=0&SerTxt=S.K.%20Ramachandra%20Rao> > > Warm Regards > Sanjay P > > Rao, S.K. Ramachandra. Navagraha-Kosha (2 vols.), Bangalore: Kalpatharu > Research Academy, 1995. > > http://www.bagchee.com/BookDisplay.aspx?Bkid=B32251 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Dear Narasimhaji, It is interesting to note the significance of kavachams..but i particulary curious to learn the complete procedure of satyanarayana vratam..is it possible to send me complete procedure of doing satyanarayana vrata or suggest some standard books for doing this..at home... thanks ganesh vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: > > Dear SanjayP, > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing physical ailments. > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house they bought. We had all the time in the world and I did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their kavachas in addition to mantras. > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus was a functional malefic for the people I was doing the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give sickness and health problems. And, there I was, sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a couple of times and figures out the tune and plays it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of having no formal training in any kind of music). > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to push his agenda! > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > > Regarding prayers, kavachas of various deities and planets are the > > > best protection from physical ailments. > > > > A good reference I would suggest to Jyotishas is to have compilation > > "Navagraha Kosha" for this, > > > > Navagraha Kosa (In 2 Volumes) S.K. Ramachandra > > Rao<http://www.bagchee.com/qsearch.aspx? page=0&SerFld=Author&qsearch=true&page=0&SerTxt=S.K.%20Ramachandra% 20Rao> > > > > Warm Regards > > Sanjay P > > > > Rao, S.K. Ramachandra. Navagraha-Kosha (2 vols.), Bangalore: Kalpatharu > > Research Academy, 1995. > > > > http://www.bagchee.com/BookDisplay.aspx?Bkid=B32251 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear Neeraj, No need to address me with adjectives like "respected" and suffixes like "ji". I am just Narasimha or PVR. The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to protect the native. The job of the 6th and 8th lord is to spoil the health of the native. Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like approaching the thug who was hired to beat you up and requesting him to come and be your body guard!!! Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug hired to beat you up to be your body guard, you are invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in pleasing the 6th and 8th lords with their kavachas, it is excellent. But it is difficult. In the example, I believe Venus himself caused disturbance in the prayer because he was uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't look at the kavacha as a praise or propitiation of Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon the couple good health. If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure Venus will be very pleased. It is not that he doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just found a person to act on his behalf when a request he was uncomfortable with was being made. If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna lord is always pleased quickly and will try to protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends on his relationships with the troublemaker planets and the mutual strengths and dynamics. On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the troublemaker planets, you need to persist longer to see any results at all. But, once they are pleased with you, your problems will go away for sure. You have basically convinced the thug hired to beat you up to be your protector! So you will see no results for a while and suddenly excellent results. I hope I haven't confused.. Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > Respected PVR Ji, > > Namaste. > > I have some queries regarding this. > > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom > you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will > give protection to these people, then why Venus itself > is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting > the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety), > so shall the diety create hinderance in her own > prayer. > > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja > has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too. > So does it indicate that we should not try to appease > the exalted planets by performing prayers for them. > Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would > have been performed in a proper manner for other > persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case, > that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is > already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not > want the propitiation to be done. > > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and > want to clarify my understanding in this regard. > Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: > > > Dear SanjayP, > > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective > > shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing > > physical ailments. > > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I > > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house > > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I > > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their > > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started > > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing > > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We > > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing > > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I > > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus > > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing > > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is > > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord > > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give > > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good > > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the > > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed > > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has > > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects > > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is > > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The > > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She > > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she > > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays > > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of > > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and > > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to > > push his agenda! > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear Narasimha, Can you please explain why you refer to Venus as 'he'? I always assumed Venus was feminine? Lien , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: > > Dear Neeraj, > > No need to address me with adjectives like "respected" and suffixes like "ji". I am just Narasimha or PVR. > > The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to protect the native. The job of the 6th and 8th lord is to spoil the health of the native. > > Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like approaching the thug who was hired to beat you up and requesting him to come and be your body guard!!! > > Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug hired to beat you up to be your body guard, you are invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in pleasing the 6th and 8th lords with their kavachas, it is excellent. But it is difficult. > > In the example, I believe Venus himself caused disturbance in the prayer because he was uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't look at the kavacha as a praise or propitiation of Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon the couple good health. > > If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure Venus will be very pleased. It is not that he doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just found a person to act on his behalf when a request he was uncomfortable with was being made. > > If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna lord is always pleased quickly and will try to protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends on his relationships with the troublemaker planets and the mutual strengths and dynamics. > > On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the troublemaker planets, you need to persist longer to see any results at all. But, once they are pleased with you, your problems will go away for sure. You have basically convinced the thug hired to beat you up to be your protector! So you will see no results for a while and suddenly excellent results. > > I hope I haven't confused.. > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > Narasimha > ------------------------------- > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > ------------------------------- > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > Respected PVR Ji, > > > > Namaste. > > > > I have some queries regarding this. > > > > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom > > you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will > > give protection to these people, then why Venus itself > > is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting > > the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety), > > so shall the diety create hinderance in her own > > prayer. > > > > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja > > has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too. > > So does it indicate that we should not try to appease > > the exalted planets by performing prayers for them. > > Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would > > have been performed in a proper manner for other > > persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case, > > that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is > > already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not > > want the propitiation to be done. > > > > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and > > want to clarify my understanding in this regard. > > Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid. > > > > Regards, > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > Dear SanjayP, > > > > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective > > > shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing > > > physical ailments. > > > > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I > > > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > > > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house > > > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I > > > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > > > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their > > > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > > > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started > > > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing > > > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We > > > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing > > > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I > > > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > > > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > > > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus > > > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing > > > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is > > > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > > > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord > > > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > > > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give > > > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > > > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good > > > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the > > > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > > > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed > > > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has > > > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects > > > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is > > > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The > > > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She > > > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she > > > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > > > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays > > > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of > > > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > > > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and > > > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to > > > push his agenda! > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > Narasimha > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear Lien, In Hindu astrology, Venusian influence shows females and feminine things. But, Venus himself is a man in Hindu mythology. He is a great maharshi. He is the teacher of demons. Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > Dear Narasimha, > Can you please explain why you refer to Venus as 'he'? I always assumed Venus was > feminine? > Lien > > > , "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> wrote: > > > > Dear Neeraj, > > > > No need to address me with adjectives like "respected" and suffixes like "ji". I am just > Narasimha or PVR. > > > > The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to protect the native. The job of the 6th and 8th > lord is to spoil the health of the native. > > > > Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like approaching the thug who was hired to > beat you up and requesting him to come and be your body guard!!! > > > > Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug hired to beat you up to be your body > guard, you are invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in pleasing the 6th and 8th lords with > their kavachas, it is excellent. But it is difficult. > > > > In the example, I believe Venus himself caused disturbance in the prayer because he was > uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't look at the kavacha as a praise or > propitiation of Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon the couple good health. > > > > If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure Venus will be very pleased. It is not > that he doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just found a person to act on his behalf > when a request he was uncomfortable with was being made. > > > > If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna lord is always pleased quickly and will > try to protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends on his relationships with the > troublemaker planets and the mutual strengths and dynamics. > > > > On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the troublemaker planets, you need to > persist longer to see any results at all. But, once they are pleased with you, your problems > will go away for sure. You have basically convinced the thug hired to beat you up to be > your protector! So you will see no results for a while and suddenly excellent results. > > > > I hope I haven't confused.. > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > Narasimha > > ------------------------------- > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > ------------------------------- > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > Respected PVR Ji, > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > I have some queries regarding this. > > > > > > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom > > > you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will > > > give protection to these people, then why Venus itself > > > is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting > > > the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety), > > > so shall the diety create hinderance in her own > > > prayer. > > > > > > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja > > > has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too. > > > So does it indicate that we should not try to appease > > > the exalted planets by performing prayers for them. > > > Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would > > > have been performed in a proper manner for other > > > persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case, > > > that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is > > > already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not > > > want the propitiation to be done. > > > > > > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and > > > want to clarify my understanding in this regard. > > > Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > > > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear SanjayP, > > > > > > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective > > > > shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing > > > > physical ailments. > > > > > > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I > > > > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > > > > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house > > > > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I > > > > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > > > > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their > > > > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > > > > > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started > > > > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing > > > > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We > > > > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing > > > > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I > > > > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > > > > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > > > > > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus > > > > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing > > > > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is > > > > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > > > > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord > > > > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > > > > > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give > > > > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > > > > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good > > > > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the > > > > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > > > > > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed > > > > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has > > > > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects > > > > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is > > > > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The > > > > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She > > > > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she > > > > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > > > > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays > > > > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of > > > > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > > > > > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and > > > > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to > > > > push his agenda! > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear PVR, Where the kavachas for various planets are available? Best regards jk vedic astrology (AT) (DOT) co m [vedic astrology@g roups.com]On Behalf Of Narasimha P.V.R. Rao Tuesday, June 20, 2006 8:33 AM sohamsa; vedic astrology (AT) (DOT) co m; ; sjcBoston [vedic astrology] Re: Kavachas of Planets Dear Neeraj, No need to address me with adjectives like "respected" and suffixes like "ji". I am just Narasimha or PVR. The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to protect the native. The job of the 6th and 8th lord is to spoil the health of the native. Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like approaching the thug who was hired to beat you up and requesting him to come and be your body guard!!! Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug hired to beat you up to be your body guard, you are invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in pleasing the 6th and 8th lords with their kavachas, it is excellent. But it is difficult. In the example, I believe Venus himself caused disturbance in the prayer because he was uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't look at the kavacha as a praise or propitiation of Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon the couple good health. If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure Venus will be very pleased. It is not that he doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just found a person to act on his behalf when a request he was uncomfortable with was being made. If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna lord is always pleased quickly and will try to protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends on his relationships with the troublemaker planets and the mutual strengths and dynamics. On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the troublemaker planets, you need to persist longer to see any results at all. But, once they are pleased with you, your problems will go away for sure. You have basically convinced the thug hired to beat you up to be your protector! So you will see no results for a while and suddenly excellent results. I hope I haven't confused.. Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, Narasimha ------------------------------ ---------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast ..net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------ ---------------------------- > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > Respected PVR Ji, > > Namaste. > > I have some queries regarding this. > > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom > you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will > give protection to these people, then why Venus itself > is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting > the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety), > so shall the diety create hinderance in her own > prayer. > > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja > has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too. > So does it indicate that we should not try to appease > the exalted planets by performing prayers for them. > Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would > have been performed in a proper manner for other > persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case, > that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is > already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not > want the propitiation to be done. > > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and > want to clarify my understanding in this regard. > Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: > > > Dear SanjayP, > > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective > > shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing > > physical ailments. > > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I > > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house > > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I > > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their > > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started > > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing > > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We > > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing > > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I > > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus > > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing > > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is > > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord > > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give > > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good > > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the > > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed > > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has > > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects > > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is > > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The > > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She > > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she > > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays > > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of > > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and > > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to > > push his agenda! > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > Narasimha [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear All, Kavachas of navagraha in sanskrit is available at this site...please see and download.. http://sanskrit.gde.to/ this site also contains many other stotras and classic texts for downloading... sriganeshh vedic astrology, "jk.dasgupta" <jk.dasgupta wrote: > > Dear PVR, > > Where the kavachas for various > planets are available? > > Best regards > > jk > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dear Neeraj, > I feel quite odd to directly address you without > adding "Respected" as you are a guru, elder to me both > in terms of knowledge as well as age and I have deep > respect for you and other gurus of SJC. I have been > bought up that way that we respect our teachers and > never directly call our teachers (gurus), pandits etc. > by their name. So, may I address you as "Sir" or > something like that as I feel bit uncomfortable > addressing you just by name. Your tradition is a good one, but I have a selfish interest in asking you not to call me "respected" or "ji". If the bhava (feeling) of respect is internal, things are fine. Once it externally expresses as a pada (verbal expression), we have created maya (illusion). It is easy to get lost in that maya. One person may use certain words because of a deep feeling. Another person may use it out of obligation because he may think it is the protocol. Without knowing, slowly an image and aura are created around a person and they can finally start influencing the person too!! I just want the layers of maya, which don't really contribute to anybody's learning, to be minimized. Moreover, age, progress in acquiring knowledge etc, as judged by us normally, are all so *transient*. One person may be elder to or supposedly more knowledgeable than another one in the current body. But who knows the ages, experiences and karmas of the souls, which are potentially millions of years old? For all we know, you may be a great rishi from a past life and I may have been your servant. It will be good if we just engage in a simple and free exchange knowledge without any other considerations. You are welcome to have respect for me, but I see no need to express it verbally. > Is there any book from where I can get the kavachas of > most of the deities or planets. I think "Geeta Press > Gorakhpur" might be having it, but I am not sure. I > have found their books very good (both in printing as > well as quality wise). Please let me know from where I > can get Kavacham of most of the planets / deities. I have a small Telugu language pocketbook called "Navagraha stotram". It has the mantras, kavachas, stotras and 108 name stotras of all the nine planets. It is a popular book available in most bookstores selling religious literature in the state of AP. I would presume you should find local language books like that in other states of India too. Otherwise, try the link given by SanjayP a few days back. Actually, I will try to record navagraha kavachas in mp3 format and upload them one of these days. Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, Narasimha ------------------------------- Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org ------------------------------- > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > Dear Narasimha, > > I feel quite odd to directly address you without > adding "Respected" as you are a guru, elder to me both > in terms of knowledge as well as age and I have deep > respect for you and other gurus of SJC. I have been > bought up that way that we respect our teachers and > never directly call our teachers (gurus), pandits etc. > by their name. So, may I address you as "Sir" or > something like that as I feel bit uncomfortable > addressing you just by name. > > You have indeed cleared my doubts and I have saved > this text in my computer as word file. One last > question: > > Is there any book from where I can get the kavachas of > most of the deities or planets. I think "Geeta Press > Gorakhpur" might be having it, but I am not sure. I > have found their books very good (both in printing as > well as quality wise). Please let me know from where I > can get Kavacham of most of the planets / deities. > > Thanks a lot for answering my doubt and clearing this. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr wrote: > > > Dear Neeraj, > > > > No need to address me with adjectives like > > "respected" and suffixes like "ji". I am just > > Narasimha or PVR. > > > > The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to > > protect the native. The job of the 6th and 8th lord > > is to spoil the health of the native. > > > > Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like > > approaching the thug who was hired to beat you up > > and requesting him to come and be your body guard!!! > > > > Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug > > hired to beat you up to be your body guard, you are > > invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in pleasing > > the 6th and 8th lords with their kavachas, it is > > excellent. But it is difficult. > > > > In the example, I believe Venus himself caused > > disturbance in the prayer because he was > > uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't > > look at the kavacha as a praise or propitiation of > > Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon the > > couple good health. > > > > If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure > > Venus will be very pleased. It is not that he > > doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just > > found a person to act on his behalf when a request > > he was uncomfortable with was being made. > > > > If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna > > lord is always pleased quickly and will try to > > protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends > > on his relationships with the troublemaker planets > > and the mutual strengths and dynamics. > > > > On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the > > troublemaker planets, you need to persist longer to > > see any results at all. But, once they are pleased > > with you, your problems will go away for sure. You > > have basically convinced the thug hired to beat you > > up to be your protector! So you will see no results > > for a while and suddenly excellent results. > > > > I hope I haven't confused.. > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Chandrashekhar, Thanks for adding to the thread! Venus (venusian types) when charged with the appropriate planets can get pretty single-minded, at times. I agree! RR , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Rohini, > If I may say so, the one eyed has reference to piercing of eye of > Shukracharya by Vamana when he assumed the form of a crow and tried to > block the spout of the receptacle through which King Bali was to drop > water on hands of Vamana to signify gifting of three feet measure of > land to him. That is why affliction to Venus especially in 2nd or 12th > can indicate problem to right or left eye. > Chandrashekhar. > > crystal pages wrote: > > > > And don't forget -- 'one eyed'! I always took that to mean that he > > does not deal with too many dimensions and 'strategies' Who else > > would take a foe or competitor's son knowing well what he was really > > after! And yet, there was the potential unqualified love between Kach > > and Devyani that Shukracharyaa must have 'seen' even with his ONE eye > > when he willingly chose to let Brihaspati's son enter his tutelage. > > > > Little wonder that east and west have both accepted Venus as the icon > > of love. > > > > RR > > > > > > <%40>, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lien, > > > > > > In Hindu astrology, Venusian influence shows females and feminine > > things. But, Venus himself is a man in Hindu mythology. He is a great > > maharshi. He is the teacher of demons. > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > Narasimha > > > ------------------------- > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > Can you please explain why you refer to Venus as 'he'? I always > > assumed Venus was > > > > feminine? > > > > Lien > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > > <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neeraj, > > > > > > > > > > No need to address me with adjectives like "respected" and > > suffixes like "ji". I am just > > > > Narasimha or PVR. > > > > > > > > > > The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to protect the > > native. The job of the 6th and 8th > > > > lord is to spoil the health of the native. > > > > > > > > > > Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like approaching > > the thug who was hired to > > > > beat you up and requesting him to come and be your body guard!!! > > > > > > > > > > Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug hired to beat > > you up to be your body > > > > guard, you are invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in pleasing > > the 6th and 8th lords with > > > > their kavachas, it is excellent. But it is difficult. > > > > > > > > > > In the example, I believe Venus himself caused disturbance in > > the prayer because he was > > > > uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't look at the > > kavacha as a praise or > > > > propitiation of Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon > > the couple good health. > > > > > > > > > > If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure Venus will > > be very pleased. It is not > > > > that he doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just found a > > person to act on his behalf > > > > when a request he was uncomfortable with was being made. > > > > > > > > > > If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna lord is > > always pleased quickly and will > > > > try to protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends on his > > relationships with the > > > > troublemaker planets and the mutual strengths and dynamics. > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the troublemaker > > planets, you need to > > > > persist longer to see any results at all. But, once they are > > pleased with you, your problems > > > > will go away for sure. You have basically convinced the thug > > hired to beat you up to be > > > > your protector! So you will see no results for a while and > > suddenly excellent results. > > > > > > > > > > I hope I haven't confused.. > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected PVR Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some queries regarding this. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom > > > > > > you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will > > > > > > give protection to these people, then why Venus itself > > > > > > is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting > > > > > > the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety), > > > > > > so shall the diety create hinderance in her own > > > > > > prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja > > > > > > has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too. > > > > > > So does it indicate that we should not try to appease > > > > > > the exalted planets by performing prayers for them. > > > > > > Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would > > > > > > have been performed in a proper manner for other > > > > > > persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case, > > > > > > that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is > > > > > > already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not > > > > > > want the propitiation to be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and > > > > > > want to clarify my understanding in this regard. > > > > > > Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear SanjayP, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective > > > > > > > shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing > > > > > > > physical ailments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I > > > > > > > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > > > > > > > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house > > > > > > > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I > > > > > > > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > > > > > > > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their > > > > > > > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started > > > > > > > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing > > > > > > > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We > > > > > > > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing > > > > > > > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I > > > > > > > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > > > > > > > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus > > > > > > > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing > > > > > > > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is > > > > > > > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > > > > > > > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord > > > > > > > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give > > > > > > > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > > > > > > > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good > > > > > > > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the > > > > > > > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed > > > > > > > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has > > > > > > > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects > > > > > > > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is > > > > > > > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The > > > > > > > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She > > > > > > > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she > > > > > > > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > > > > > > > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays > > > > > > > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of > > > > > > > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and > > > > > > > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to > > > > > > > push his agenda! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 I think TMJ is caused by 'pinching of nerves'. The muscles are affected secondarily. , "lotus7moon" <lotus7moon wrote: > > > Dear Chandrashekhar, A couple of weeks back you asked if I had a problem with my left > eye and we had a little discussion about it regarding nutrition. I feel I should now mention > that, although at the time, there was no obvious problem with my left eye, I have had > problems that flared up mostly on the past two weekends. I felt to tell you since I wanted > you to know your prediction was indeed accurate. It seems to be 'muscular'. I have some > eye muscle strain and it seems to be from a TMJ problem (jaw) pinching muscles to various > parts of my face, neck head eye on left side. Gum chewing aggravated it!! > It was quite painful at some times. > Please tell me, if you have some time, a little bit about how you arrived at this prediction. > I mention it on this thread because you mentioned Shukra in the 12th (below). > > Sincerely, > Lien > > > , "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Chandrashekhar, > > > > Thanks for adding to the thread! > > > > Venus (venusian types) when charged with the appropriate planets can > > get pretty single-minded, at times. I agree! > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rohini, > > > If I may say so, the one eyed has reference to piercing of eye of > > > Shukracharya by Vamana when he assumed the form of a crow and tried > > to > > > block the spout of the receptacle through which King Bali was to > > drop > > > water on hands of Vamana to signify gifting of three feet measure > > of > > > land to him. That is why affliction to Venus especially in 2nd or > > 12th > > > can indicate problem to right or left eye. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > crystal pages wrote: > > > > > > > > And don't forget -- 'one eyed'! I always took that to mean that he > > > > does not deal with too many dimensions and 'strategies' Who else > > > > would take a foe or competitor's son knowing well what he was > > really > > > > after! And yet, there was the potential unqualified love between > > Kach > > > > and Devyani that Shukracharyaa must have 'seen' even with his ONE > > eye > > > > when he willingly chose to let Brihaspati's son enter his > > tutelage. > > > > > > > > Little wonder that east and west have both accepted Venus as the > > icon > > > > of love. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > > <pvr@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lien, > > > > > > > > > > In Hindu astrology, Venusian influence shows females and > > feminine > > > > things. But, Venus himself is a man in Hindu mythology. He is a > > great > > > > maharshi. He is the teacher of demons. > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > > > Can you please explain why you refer to Venus as 'he'? I > > always > > > > assumed Venus was > > > > > > feminine? > > > > > > Lien > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > > > > <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neeraj, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to address me with adjectives like "respected" and > > > > suffixes like "ji". I am just > > > > > > Narasimha or PVR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to protect the > > > > native. The job of the 6th and 8th > > > > > > lord is to spoil the health of the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like approaching > > > > the thug who was hired to > > > > > > beat you up and requesting him to come and be your body > > guard!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug hired to > > beat > > > > you up to be your body > > > > > > guard, you are invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in > > pleasing > > > > the 6th and 8th lords with > > > > > > their kavachas, it is excellent. But it is difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the example, I believe Venus himself caused disturbance > > in > > > > the prayer because he was > > > > > > uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't look at the > > > > kavacha as a praise or > > > > > > propitiation of Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow upon > > > > the couple good health. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure Venus > > will > > > > be very pleased. It is not > > > > > > that he doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just > > found a > > > > person to act on his behalf > > > > > > when a request he was uncomfortable with was being made. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna lord is > > > > always pleased quickly and will > > > > > > try to protect you. But whether he succeeds or not depends on > > his > > > > relationships with the > > > > > > troublemaker planets and the mutual strengths and dynamics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the > > troublemaker > > > > planets, you need to > > > > > > persist longer to see any results at all. But, once they are > > > > pleased with you, your problems > > > > > > will go away for sure. You have basically convinced the thug > > > > hired to beat you up to be > > > > > > your protector! So you will see no results for a while and > > > > suddenly excellent results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I haven't confused.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > ----------------------- -- > > > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > http://www.SriJagannath.org > > > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > > > > ----------------------- -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected PVR Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some queries regarding this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom > > > > > > > > you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will > > > > > > > > give protection to these people, then why Venus itself > > > > > > > > is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting > > > > > > > > the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety), > > > > > > > > so shall the diety create hinderance in her own > > > > > > > > prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja > > > > > > > > has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too. > > > > > > > > So does it indicate that we should not try to appease > > > > > > > > the exalted planets by performing prayers for them. > > > > > > > > Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would > > > > > > > > have been performed in a proper manner for other > > > > > > > > persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case, > > > > > > > > that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is > > > > > > > > already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not > > > > > > > > want the propitiation to be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and > > > > > > > > want to clarify my understanding in this regard. > > > > > > > > Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear SanjayP, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective > > > > > > > > > shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing > > > > > > > > > physical ailments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I > > > > > > > > > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > > > > > > > > > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house > > > > > > > > > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I > > > > > > > > > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > > > > > > > > > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their > > > > > > > > > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started > > > > > > > > > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing > > > > > > > > > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We > > > > > > > > > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing > > > > > > > > > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I > > > > > > > > > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > > > > > > > > > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus > > > > > > > > > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing > > > > > > > > > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is > > > > > > > > > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > > > > > > > > > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord > > > > > > > > > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give > > > > > > > > > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > > > > > > > > > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good > > > > > > > > > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the > > > > > > > > > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed > > > > > > > > > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has > > > > > > > > > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects > > > > > > > > > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is > > > > > > > > > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The > > > > > > > > > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She > > > > > > > > > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she > > > > > > > > > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > > > > > > > > > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays > > > > > > > > > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of > > > > > > > > > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and > > > > > > > > > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to > > > > > > > > > push his agenda! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Dear Rohini, That is possible. I was only telling how I tried to understand what may be wrong with her left eye. Chandrashekhar. crystal pages wrote: > > I think TMJ is caused by 'pinching of nerves'. The muscles are > affected secondarily. > > > <%40>, "lotus7moon" <lotus7moon > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar, A couple of weeks back you asked if I had a > problem with my left > > eye and we had a little discussion about it regarding nutrition. I > feel I should now mention > > that, although at the time, there was no obvious problem with my > left eye, I have had > > problems that flared up mostly on the past two weekends. I felt to > tell you since I wanted > > you to know your prediction was indeed accurate. It seems to > be 'muscular'. I have some > > eye muscle strain and it seems to be from a TMJ problem (jaw) > pinching muscles to various > > parts of my face, neck head eye on left side. Gum chewing > aggravated it!! > > It was quite painful at some times. > > Please tell me, if you have some time, a little bit about how you > arrived at this prediction. > > I mention it on this thread because you mentioned Shukra in the > 12th (below). > > > > Sincerely, > > Lien > > > > > > > <%40>, "crystal pages" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Chandrashekhar, > > > > > > Thanks for adding to the thread! > > > > > > Venus (venusian types) when charged with the appropriate planets > can > > > get pretty single-minded, at times. I agree! > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > If I may say so, the one eyed has reference to piercing of eye > of > > > > Shukracharya by Vamana when he assumed the form of a crow and > tried > > > to > > > > block the spout of the receptacle through which King Bali was > to > > > drop > > > > water on hands of Vamana to signify gifting of three feet > measure > > > of > > > > land to him. That is why affliction to Venus especially in 2nd > or > > > 12th > > > > can indicate problem to right or left eye. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > crystal pages wrote: > > > > > > > > > > And don't forget -- 'one eyed'! I always took that to mean > that he > > > > > does not deal with too many dimensions and 'strategies' Who > else > > > > > would take a foe or competitor's son knowing well what he was > > > really > > > > > after! And yet, there was the potential unqualified love > between > > > Kach > > > > > and Devyani that Shukracharyaa must have 'seen' even with his > ONE > > > eye > > > > > when he willingly chose to let Brihaspati's son enter his > > > tutelage. > > > > > > > > > > Little wonder that east and west have both accepted Venus as > the > > > icon > > > > > of love. > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40>, "Narasimha P.V.R. > Rao" > > > <pvr@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lien, > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hindu astrology, Venusian influence shows females and > > > feminine > > > > > things. But, Venus himself is a man in Hindu mythology. He is > a > > > great > > > > > maharshi. He is the teacher of demons. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>> > > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>> > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org>> > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > > > > Can you please explain why you refer to Venus as 'he'? I > > > always > > > > > assumed Venus was > > > > > > > feminine? > > > > > > > Lien > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > <%40>, "Narasimha P.V.R. > Rao" > > > > > <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neeraj, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to address me with adjectives like "respected" > and > > > > > suffixes like "ji". I am just > > > > > > > Narasimha or PVR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to protect > the > > > > > native. The job of the 6th and 8th > > > > > > > lord is to spoil the health of the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like > approaching > > > > > the thug who was hired to > > > > > > > beat you up and requesting him to come and be your body > > > guard!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug hired > to > > > beat > > > > > you up to be your body > > > > > > > guard, you are invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in > > > pleasing > > > > > the 6th and 8th lords with > > > > > > > their kavachas, it is excellent. But it is difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the example, I believe Venus himself caused > disturbance > > > in > > > > > the prayer because he was > > > > > > > uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't look at > the > > > > > kavacha as a praise or > > > > > > > propitiation of Venus. It is a request to Venus to bestow > upon > > > > > the couple good health. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure > Venus > > > will > > > > > be very pleased. It is not > > > > > > > that he doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just > > > found a > > > > > person to act on his behalf > > > > > > > when a request he was uncomfortable with was being made. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna lord > is > > > > > always pleased quickly and will > > > > > > > try to protect you. But whether he succeeds or not > depends on > > > his > > > > > relationships with the > > > > > > > troublemaker planets and the mutual strengths and > dynamics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the > > > troublemaker > > > > > planets, you need to > > > > > > > persist longer to see any results at all. But, once they > are > > > > > pleased with you, your problems > > > > > > > will go away for sure. You have basically convinced the > thug > > > > > hired to beat you up to be > > > > > > > your protector! So you will see no results for a while and > > > > > suddenly excellent results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I haven't confused.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > -- > > > > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > > > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>> > > > > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > > > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>> > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > > http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > > > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org>> > > > > > > > > ----------------------- > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected PVR Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some queries regarding this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom > > > > > > > > > you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will > > > > > > > > > give protection to these people, then why Venus itself > > > > > > > > > is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting > > > > > > > > > the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety), > > > > > > > > > so shall the diety create hinderance in her own > > > > > > > > > prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja > > > > > > > > > has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too. > > > > > > > > > So does it indicate that we should not try to appease > > > > > > > > > the exalted planets by performing prayers for them. > > > > > > > > > Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would > > > > > > > > > have been performed in a proper manner for other > > > > > > > > > persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case, > > > > > > > > > that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is > > > > > > > > > already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not > > > > > > > > > want the propitiation to be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and > > > > > > > > > want to clarify my understanding in this regard. > > > > > > > > > Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear SanjayP, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective > > > > > > > > > > shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing > > > > > > > > > > physical ailments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I > > > > > > > > > > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > > > > > > > > > > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house > > > > > > > > > > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I > > > > > > > > > > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > > > > > > > > > > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their > > > > > > > > > > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started > > > > > > > > > > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing > > > > > > > > > > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We > > > > > > > > > > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing > > > > > > > > > > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I > > > > > > > > > > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > > > > > > > > > > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus > > > > > > > > > > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing > > > > > > > > > > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is > > > > > > > > > > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord > > > > > > > > > > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give > > > > > > > > > > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > > > > > > > > > > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good > > > > > > > > > > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the > > > > > > > > > > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed > > > > > > > > > > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has > > > > > > > > > > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects > > > > > > > > > > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is > > > > > > > > > > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The > > > > > > > > > > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She > > > > > > > > > > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she > > > > > > > > > > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > > > > > > > > > > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays > > > > > > > > > > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of > > > > > > > > > > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and > > > > > > > > > > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to > > > > > > > > > > push his agenda! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 -Thank you very much, Chadrashekhar. I appreciate all you have done in putting your awareness on my chart. With deep gratitude, Lien. -- In , Chandrashekhar <chandrashekhar46 wrote: > > Dear Lein, > > What it shows is a tendency of weakness of constitution/organ in certain > area of the body. The disease itself is brought on by appropriate > transit and dashas (period of influence) of the relevant planets. This > serves to enable us to take extra care of the concerned organ so that we > are least troubled by the disease. So in a way it is one of the > management tools available in the relevant area. I am sure you will > overcome it with proper attention. > > Take care, > Chandrashekhar. > > lotus7moon wrote: > > > > -Dear Chandrashekhar, > > Thank you for your kindness in presenting a careful explanation for a > > beginner, like > > myself. I was wondering if this was something that you saw as a > > tendency in the chart, or > > if you had seen it based on a particular planetary transit of some > > weeks back. I was > > hoping it was just a transit, so that it would not remain a problem. > > I'll be taking some different measures to Self-heal as well as accept > > other assistance in this > > area. I am grateful to you for bringing it to my attention so that I > > don't neglect my > > responsibility to creating greater wholeness in the body in which I so > > fortunately live this > > lifetime! > > With gratitude, Lien. > > > > -- In > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lien, > > > > > > I am sorry to know about your eye problem. This is one thing I wish > > > would have come untrue. > > > > > > It is fairly straight forward if you look to the basics. Venus as you > > > see is occupying the 12th and Sun a malefic is conjoining it, > > indicating > > > the problem to left eye. Note that Sun occupies own sign whereas Venus > > > occupies sign of its enemy so Sun is stronger of the two. That they > > > aspect 6th the house of disease and that Mars also aspects the 6th > > by it > > > 4th aspect leads to muscular problems being involved as the sign > > belongs > > > to Saturn who rules muscles (Snaayu Resha in Sanskrit). Note that > > Saturn > > > the 6th lord is aspecting the Mars by 3rd house aspect. It is the Sun's > > > aspects that made me wonder if there is any involvement of > > deficiency of > > > Vitamins A or D both of which are provided by sunlight. > > > > > > This is the way I reached the conclusion. Of course others more learned > > > than me may look at it in some different manner and perhaps reach the > > > same conclusion. > > > Take care, > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > lotus7moon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar, A couple of weeks back you asked if I had a > > > > problem with my left > > > > eye and we had a little discussion about it regarding nutrition. I > > > > feel I should now mention > > > > that, although at the time, there was no obvious problem with my left > > > > eye, I have had > > > > problems that flared up mostly on the past two weekends. I felt to > > > > tell you since I wanted > > > > you to know your prediction was indeed accurate. It seems to be > > > > 'muscular'. I have some > > > > eye muscle strain and it seems to be from a TMJ problem (jaw) > > pinching > > > > muscles to various > > > > parts of my face, neck head eye on left side. Gum chewing > > aggravated it!! > > > > It was quite painful at some times. > > > > Please tell me, if you have some time, a little bit about how you > > > > arrived at this prediction. > > > > I mention it on this thread because you mentioned Shukra in the 12th > > > > (below). > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Lien > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, "crystal pages" > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for adding to the thread! > > > > > > > > > > Venus (venusian types) when charged with the appropriate planets can > > > > > get pretty single-minded, at times. I agree! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40>, Chandrashekhar > > > > > <chandrashekhar46@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rohini, > > > > > > If I may say so, the one eyed has reference to piercing of eye of > > > > > > Shukracharya by Vamana when he assumed the form of a crow and > > tried > > > > > to > > > > > > block the spout of the receptacle through which King Bali was to > > > > > drop > > > > > > water on hands of Vamana to signify gifting of three feet measure > > > > > of > > > > > > land to him. That is why affliction to Venus especially in 2nd or > > > > > 12th > > > > > > can indicate problem to right or left eye. > > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > crystal pages wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And don't forget -- 'one eyed'! I always took that to mean > > that he > > > > > > > does not deal with too many dimensions and 'strategies' Who else > > > > > > > would take a foe or competitor's son knowing well what he was > > > > > really > > > > > > > after! And yet, there was the potential unqualified love between > > > > > Kach > > > > > > > and Devyani that Shukracharyaa must have 'seen' even with > > his ONE > > > > > eye > > > > > > > when he willingly chose to let Brihaspati's son enter his > > > > > tutelage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Little wonder that east and west have both accepted Venus as the > > > > > icon > > > > > > > of love. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > > <%40>, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > > > > > <pvr@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Lien, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hindu astrology, Venusian influence shows females and > > > > > feminine > > > > > > > things. But, Venus himself is a man in Hindu mythology. He is a > > > > > great > > > > > > > maharshi. He is the teacher of demons. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>> > > > > > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>>> > > > > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>> > > > > > > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>>> > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > > > http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org>> > > > > > > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org>>> > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Narasimha, > > > > > > > > > Can you please explain why you refer to Venus as 'he'? I > > > > > always > > > > > > > assumed Venus was > > > > > > > > > feminine? > > > > > > > > > Lien > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > > <%40> > > > > > > > <%40>, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" > > > > > > > <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neeraj, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to address me with adjectives like "respected" and > > > > > > > suffixes like "ji". I am just > > > > > > > > > Narasimha or PVR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The job of the lagna lord, 9th lord etc is to protect the > > > > > > > native. The job of the 6th and 8th > > > > > > > > > lord is to spoil the health of the native. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reading the kavacham of the 6th/8th lord is like > > approaching > > > > > > > the thug who was hired to > > > > > > > > > beat you up and requesting him to come and be your body > > > > > guard!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, if you can manage to convince the thug hired to > > > > > beat > > > > > > > you up to be your body > > > > > > > > > guard, you are invincible. Similarly, if you succeed in > > > > > pleasing > > > > > > > the 6th and 8th lords with > > > > > > > > > their kavachas, it is excellent. But it is difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the example, I believe Venus himself caused disturbance > > > > > in > > > > > > > the prayer because he was > > > > > > > > > uncomfortable with the request being made. Don't look at the > > > > > > > kavacha as a praise or > > > > > > > > > propitiation of Venus. It is a request to Venus to > > bestow upon > > > > > > > the couple good health. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the girl in the example prays to Venus, I am sure Venus > > > > > will > > > > > > > be very pleased. It is not > > > > > > > > > that he doesn't want her to pray to him. I think he just > > > > > found a > > > > > > > person to act on his behalf > > > > > > > > > when a request he was uncomfortable with was being made. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you read the kavacham of the lagna lord, lagna lord is > > > > > > > always pleased quickly and will > > > > > > > > > try to protect you. But whether he succeeds or not > > depends on > > > > > his > > > > > > > relationships with the > > > > > > > > > troublemaker planets and the mutual strengths and dynamics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, if you read the kavacham of the > > > > > troublemaker > > > > > > > planets, you need to > > > > > > > > > persist longer to see any results at all. But, once they are > > > > > > > pleased with you, your problems > > > > > > > > > will go away for sure. You have basically convinced the thug > > > > > > > hired to beat you up to be > > > > > > > > > your protector! So you will see no results for a while and > > > > > > > suddenly excellent results. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope I haven't confused.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): > > > > > http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>> > > > > > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net> > > > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net > > <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>>> > > > > > > > > > > Free Jyotish software (Windows): > > > > > http://www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>> > > > > > > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org> <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org > > <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>>> > > > > > > > > > > Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: > > > > > http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org>> > > > > > > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org> > > <http://www.SriJagannath.org <http://www.SriJagannath.org>>> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected PVR Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have some queries regarding this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. When Venus is malefic for these persons for whom > > > > > > > > > > > you are reciting venus kavacham, and reciting it will > > > > > > > > > > > give protection to these people, then why Venus itself > > > > > > > > > > > is trying to create the hinderance. As we are reciting > > > > > > > > > > > the kavacham for venus only (trying to appease diety), > > > > > > > > > > > so shall the diety create hinderance in her own > > > > > > > > > > > prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. You mentioned that the girl who disturbed the pooja > > > > > > > > > > > has exalted venus and it is aspecting the lagna too. > > > > > > > > > > > So does it indicate that we should not try to appease > > > > > > > > > > > the exalted planets by performing prayers for them. > > > > > > > > > > > Had the girl not been there (suppose), the pooja would > > > > > > > > > > > have been performed in a proper manner for other > > > > > > > > > > > persons whose venus is malefic. Can it be the case, > > > > > > > > > > > that the girl is disturbing the pooja, as venus is > > > > > > > > > > > already exalted (powerful) and the venus god does not > > > > > > > > > > > want the propitiation to be done. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just want to know it for the sake of knowledge and > > > > > > > > > > > want to clarify my understanding in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > > Please forgive me, if I have asked something stupid. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear SanjayP, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the links. Kavacha means "protective > > > > > > > > > > > > shield". Kavachas of planets are good for removing > > > > > > > > > > > > physical ailments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The discussion on kavachas reminds me of a story. I > > > > > > > > > > > > was performing Satya Narayana vratam when some > > > > > > > > > > > > relatives were doing griha pravesh in a new house > > > > > > > > > > > > they bought. We had all the time in the world and I > > > > > > > > > > > > did a 5 hour long Satya Narayana vratam. When > > > > > > > > > > > > invoking various planets in the pooja, I did their > > > > > > > > > > > > kavachas in addition to mantras. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The pooja was going fine. Suddenly, when I started > > > > > > > > > > > > reading Sukra kavacham, one girl started throwing > > > > > > > > > > > > tantrums, crying loud and making a lot of fuss. We > > > > > > > > > > > > had to stop the pooja and cajole her. The same thing > > > > > > > > > > > > was repeated three times as I read Sukra kavacham. I > > > > > > > > > > > > had to break 3 times in the middle. After Sukra > > > > > > > > > > > > kavacham was over, it went on smoothly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I reflected on it, it struck to me that Venus > > > > > > > > > > > > was a functional malefic for the people I was doing > > > > > > > > > > > > the vratam for. For the owner of the house, Venus is > > > > > > > > > > > > the 6th and 11th lord, afflicting lagna lord > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter. For his wife, Venus is the 3rd and 8th lord > > > > > > > > > > > > and occupies the 6th house of sickness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In both the charts, it is the job of Venus to give > > > > > > > > > > > > sickness and health problems. And, there I was, > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely praying to that Venus to give them good > > > > > > > > > > > > health! Naturally, Venus is not comfortable with the > > > > > > > > > > > > request and wants to throw obstacles in the prayer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly, the girl who cried loud and disturbed > > > > > > > > > > > > the pooja during the chanting of Sukra kavacham has > > > > > > > > > > > > arudha lagna in a Venusian sign and Venus aspects > > > > > > > > > > > > her lagna. In addition to aspecting lagna, Venus is > > > > > > > > > > > > exalted and quite strong. In fact, he is the AK. The > > > > > > > > > > > > girl is a good painter and an excellent singer. She > > > > > > > > > > > > is also very gifted in terms of musical sense (she > > > > > > > > > > > > listens to the latest Hindi/Telugu film songs a > > > > > > > > > > > > couple of times and figures out the tune and plays > > > > > > > > > > > > it on the keyboard very well. All this is inspite of > > > > > > > > > > > > having no formal training in any kind of music). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overall, she is a very Venusian kind of person and > > > > > > > > > > > > was the one chosen by Venus as his representative to > > > > > > > > > > > > push his agenda! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu, > > > > > > > > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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