Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Dear shri Deven Panditji has explained my intention. Now to add - trying to understand the meaning of two or more planets in Navamsha - is also the intention. For our understanding purpose,assume that,there are no Rashis and it is just SPACE.Imagine Venus and Saturn placed aprroximately 77 degrees from each other in SPACE.These two planets always remain at their respective places at a point in time(Say today - 10.20 IST,16th June). Now imagine we have divided space into 12 Rashis.Then we can say Venus is for the given time, at 26 degrees in Aries and Saturn is at 13 degrees in Cancer.They are not conjunct but 77 degrees apart. Now imagine we are dividing each Rashi into nine.Aries will have nine equal parts satrting with Aries and ending in Sagittarius.Cancer Rashi will also have nine equal parts,starting with Cancer and ending in Pisces.These divisions are called Navamshas. Venus will then fall in Scorpio Navamsha though in Aries Rashi.Saturn will also fall in Scorpio Navamsha,though in Cancer Rashi.If we draw navamsha chakra we can find both of them falling in scorpio.But are they conjunct.NO.Two positions in space are having similar influences/properties.This is navamsha sambandha.Though they are at different physical locations Venus and Saturn are able to relate to Scorpio Rashi tattwa.This is a very important basic as per me and others better learned can hold different. Two planets in navamsha are conjunct only if they are conjunct in Rashi say for eg both are in Aries Rashi and Aries Nvamsha(first 3deg 20 minutes in Aries Rashi). These divisions show Rashis moving at different speeds.Think of VIBGYOR rotated at high speed,we can see only white.No matter what the speed is,the positions of planets does not change.Only the background is changing.Thus we are studying 16 infleunces of a single planet,from its single position,at a single point in time. Hope my mail was useful in clarifying your doubts. Thanks Pradeep vedic astrology, "chopradeven81" <chopradeven81 wrote: > > > Dear Pradeep Ji > > When you say taht two planets cannot conjunct in navamsha do you mean > that there can not be more than one planet in one particular house in > the navamsha chart. > > please pardon me if my question seems foolish becuase I have not read > anything regarding these. I have just started learning vedic astrology. > > regards > Deven > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Respected memers > > > > Regarding,Ishta devatha,planet having amsha in the 12th from > > karakamsha and placed in the 12th from karakamsha are not the same(But > > planet lording 12th from karakamsha will always be the same).If we > > understand this difference our doubts will be cleared.Sage just said > > 12th from karakamsha-never said planet having amsha in the 12th from > > karakamsha.12th from karakamsha in ''navsmha chart'' is an assumption > > and others are free to hold that view. > > Also two planets can never ''conjunct'' in a navamsha(making ishta > > devatha formulas in navamsha wrong).Planet A and Planet B will have > > just one position at a point in time.Vargas are pointing to different > > relative backdrop/canvas.When we see two planets having amsha in the > > same sign,they are having sambandha(Think of a planety having > > sambandha with houses lorded by it,inspite of placement elsewhere).If > > anyone in this list can explain how two planets can conjunct in > > navamsha,i am ready to accept their understanding. > > > > Thanks > > Pradeep > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Thankyou Pradeep Ji i got it now Regards deven vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" <vijayadas_pradeep wrote: > > Dear shri Deven > > Panditji has explained my intention. > Now to add - trying to understand the meaning of two or more planets > in Navamsha - is also the intention. > For our understanding purpose,assume that,there are no Rashis and it > is just SPACE.Imagine Venus and Saturn placed aprroximately 77 degrees > from each other in SPACE.These two planets always remain at their > respective places at a point in time(Say today - 10.20 IST,16th June). > Now imagine we have divided space into 12 Rashis.Then we can say Venus > is for the given time, at 26 degrees in Aries and Saturn is at 13 > degrees in Cancer.They are not conjunct but 77 degrees apart. > Now imagine we are dividing each Rashi into nine.Aries will have nine > equal parts satrting with Aries and ending in Sagittarius.Cancer Rashi > will also have nine equal parts,starting with Cancer and ending in > Pisces.These divisions are called Navamshas. > Venus will then fall in Scorpio Navamsha though in Aries Rashi.Saturn > will also fall in Scorpio Navamsha,though in Cancer Rashi.If we draw > navamsha chakra we can find both of them falling in scorpio.But are > they conjunct.NO.Two positions in space are having similar > influences/properties.This is navamsha sambandha.Though they are at > different physical locations Venus and Saturn are able to relate to > Scorpio Rashi tattwa.This is a very important basic as per me and > others better learned can hold different. > Two planets in navamsha are conjunct only if they are conjunct in > Rashi say for eg both are in Aries Rashi and Aries Nvamsha(first 3deg > 20 minutes in Aries Rashi). > > These divisions show Rashis moving at different speeds.Think of > VIBGYOR rotated at high speed,we can see only white.No matter what the > speed is,the positions of planets does not change.Only the background > is changing.Thus we are studying 16 infleunces of a single > planet,from its single position,at a single point in time. > > Hope my mail was useful in clarifying your doubts. > > Thanks > Pradeep > > > > vedic astrology, "chopradeven81" > <chopradeven81@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pradeep Ji > > > > When you say taht two planets cannot conjunct in navamsha do you mean > > that there can not be more than one planet in one particular house in > > the navamsha chart. > > > > please pardon me if my question seems foolish becuase I have not read > > anything regarding these. I have just started learning vedic astrology. > > > > regards > > Deven > > > > vedic astrology, "vijayadas_pradeep" > > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Respected memers > > > > > > Regarding,Ishta devatha,planet having amsha in the 12th from > > > karakamsha and placed in the 12th from karakamsha are not the same(But > > > planet lording 12th from karakamsha will always be the same).If we > > > understand this difference our doubts will be cleared.Sage just said > > > 12th from karakamsha-never said planet having amsha in the 12th from > > > karakamsha.12th from karakamsha in ''navsmha chart'' is an assumption > > > and others are free to hold that view. > > > Also two planets can never ''conjunct'' in a navamsha(making ishta > > > devatha formulas in navamsha wrong).Planet A and Planet B will have > > > just one position at a point in time.Vargas are pointing to different > > > relative backdrop/canvas.When we see two planets having amsha in the > > > same sign,they are having sambandha(Think of a planety having > > > sambandha with houses lorded by it,inspite of placement elsewhere).If > > > anyone in this list can explain how two planets can conjunct in > > > navamsha,i am ready to accept their understanding. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Pradeep > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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