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Pranav,

Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your family had something to do with series of deaths.

I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles and found that your chart indicates same deaths .

It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for that.

Your not getting along with your wife must be based on this assumption.

Please blame your karma and atone for that and not the stars of the girl.

Tatvam-Asi

 

Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51 > wrote:

!Om Gurveh Namah!

 

Respected Members,

 

I got married in November and at that time a learned astrologer had told my parents that series of unfortunate incidents will happen if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys choose to ignore the advice ...

 

On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my Father's elder brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed away.... Two months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and yesterday (13/14 June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to me) passed away.....

 

I am not sure what exactly is happening and why....... I have been going through this turmoil for last few months... Not sure what to do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after marriage even for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

 

I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the group can throw some light and suggest some remedies? My limited knowledge of Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

 

Any help is appreciated.

 

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

My DOB -

24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India – 77 E 09 & 31 N 06

 

My wife's DOB -

12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India – 76 E 24 & 31 N 24

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!Om Gurveh Namah!

 

Respected Tatvamasi,

 

Thank you for your reply!

 

I guess you got a wrong interpretation from my email. I am not

blaming my wife for whatever is happening, if I was blaming her I

will never put a post on the public newsgroup! I applogize if it

came across like that.

 

My intention was two fold:

1) A learned astrologer had warned us before and had indicated that

there are certain planets in both of our horoscopes that indicate

series of unfortunate incidents. I wanted to validate what he said.

 

2) If it is true indeed then look for remedial measures if any.

 

Rest of the information was for the learned members to validate the

predictions, I tried to cast a Prashna chart however am not good

enough to interpret it at a level where I can get any kind of

prediction.

 

I appreciate your reply!

 

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

 

, Tatvamasi

<om_tatsat_om wrote:

>

> Pranav,

>

> Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your family had

something to do with series of deaths.

> I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles and found that

your chart indicates same deaths .

> It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for that.

> Your not getting along with your wife must be based on this

assumption.

> Please blame your karma and atone for that and not the stars of

the girl.

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51 wrote:

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>

> Respected Members,

>

> I got married in November and at that time a learned astrologer

had told my parents that series of unfortunate incidents will happen

if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys choose to ignore the

advice ...

>

> On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my Father's elder

brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed away.... Two

months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and yesterday (13/14

June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to me) passed

away.....

>

> I am not sure what exactly is happening and why....... I have been

going through this turmoil for last few months... Not sure what to

do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after marriage even

for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

>

> I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the group can throw

some light and suggest some remedies? My limited knowledge of

Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

>

> Any help is appreciated.

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

> My DOB -

> 24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India – 77 E 09 & 31 N 06

>

> My wife's DOB -

> 12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India – 76 E 24 & 31 N 24

>

>

>

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!Om Gurveh Namah!

Respected Tatvamasi ji,

 

Since you have already validated the deaths, I will appreciate if

you can suggest remedies for the same.

 

Thank you for your help!

 

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

 

, "sushmagupta51"

<sushmagupta51 wrote:

>

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>

> Respected Tatvamasi,

>

> Thank you for your reply!

>

> I guess you got a wrong interpretation from my email. I am not

> blaming my wife for whatever is happening, if I was blaming her I

> will never put a post on the public newsgroup! I applogize if it

> came across like that.

>

> My intention was two fold:

> 1) A learned astrologer had warned us before and had indicated

that

> there are certain planets in both of our horoscopes that indicate

> series of unfortunate incidents. I wanted to validate what he

said.

>

> 2) If it is true indeed then look for remedial measures if any.

>

> Rest of the information was for the learned members to validate

the

> predictions, I tried to cast a Prashna chart however am not good

> enough to interpret it at a level where I can get any kind of

> prediction.

>

> I appreciate your reply!

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

>

> , Tatvamasi

> <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> >

> > Pranav,

> >

> > Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your family had

> something to do with series of deaths.

> > I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles and found that

> your chart indicates same deaths .

> > It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for that.

> > Your not getting along with your wife must be based on this

> assumption.

> > Please blame your karma and atone for that and not the stars

of

> the girl.

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@> wrote:

> > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> >

> > Respected Members,

> >

> > I got married in November and at that time a learned astrologer

> had told my parents that series of unfortunate incidents will

happen

> if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys choose to ignore

the

> advice ...

> >

> > On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my Father's elder

> brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed away.... Two

> months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and yesterday

(13/14

> June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to me) passed

> away.....

> >

> > I am not sure what exactly is happening and why....... I have

been

> going through this turmoil for last few months... Not sure what to

> do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after marriage even

> for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

> >

> > I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the group can throw

> some light and suggest some remedies? My limited knowledge of

> Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

> >

> > Any help is appreciated.

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Pranav

> >

> > My DOB -

> > 24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India – 77 E 09 & 31 N 06

> >

> > My wife's DOB -

> > 12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India – 76 E 24 & 31 N 24

> >

> >

> >

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Pranav,

 

Ok,

 

I see a female curse due to suffering in your past

karma.

Prayers to Mother MahaLakshmi with fasting on Fridays

would do you good.

Try and patch up with your own Maha Lakshmi and try

and lead a simple life without too many demands on

her.

Life is all about adjustments.

Hope you would understand.

 

Donate white things like White clothes, Rice etc on

Fridays.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

--- sushmagupta51 <sushmagupta51 > wrote:

 

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>

> Respected Tatvamasi,

>

> Thank you for your reply!

>

> I guess you got a wrong interpretation from my

> email. I am not

> blaming my wife for whatever is happening, if I was

> blaming her I

> will never put a post on the public newsgroup! I

> applogize if it

> came across like that.

>

> My intention was two fold:

> 1) A learned astrologer had warned us before and had

> indicated that

> there are certain planets in both of our horoscopes

> that indicate

> series of unfortunate incidents. I wanted to

> validate what he said.

>

> 2) If it is true indeed then look for remedial

> measures if any.

>

> Rest of the information was for the learned members

> to validate the

> predictions, I tried to cast a Prashna chart however

> am not good

> enough to interpret it at a level where I can get

> any kind of

> prediction.

>

> I appreciate your reply!

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

>

> , Tatvamasi

> <om_tatsat_om wrote:

> >

> > Pranav,

> >

> > Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your

> family had

> something to do with series of deaths.

> > I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles

> and found that

> your chart indicates same deaths .

> > It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for

> that.

> > Your not getting along with your wife must be

> based on this

> assumption.

> > Please blame your karma and atone for that and

> not the stars of

> the girl.

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51 wrote:

> > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> >

> > Respected Members,

> >

> > I got married in November and at that time a

> learned astrologer

> had told my parents that series of unfortunate

> incidents will happen

> if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys

> choose to ignore the

> advice ...

> >

> > On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my

> Father's elder

> brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed

> away.... Two

> months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and

> yesterday (13/14

> June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to

> me) passed

> away.....

> >

> > I am not sure what exactly is happening and

> why....... I have been

> going through this turmoil for last few months...

> Not sure what to

> do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after

> marriage even

> for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

>

> >

> > I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the

> group can throw

> some light and suggest some remedies? My limited

> knowledge of

> Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

> >

> > Any help is appreciated.

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Pranav

> >

> > My DOB -

> > 24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India – 77 E 09 &

> 31 N 06

> >

> > My wife's DOB -

> > 12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India – 76 E 24 &

> 31 N 24

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> >

> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> protection around

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> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

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> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Pranav,

 

continuing with Tatvam_Asi's mail, taking the cause as female curse

and considering the whole family is suffering, my suggestion is find

your kuladevata or family deity and try to do the puja as per your

family traditions...first

2. Tarpan (argya or i am not getting equivalent word in english) for

ancestors is must on amavasya and pitrupaksha. If their blessings

are there..i dont think this will happen.

3. there is a practice of worshipping devi by inviting married woman

to your house and giving them haldi, kumkum, saree and bhojan and

getting blessings from them...(sumangli prarthana as they say in

south)

4. whenever you are visiting south, go to rameshwaram (or

thirupoolani-temple i will confirm later), ask any of pandits in the

beach side to do tila homa prarthana to get rid of all types of

family curses. Alternatively you can check this out with varanasi

side people also..

5. recitation of gayatri mantra slowly as per the vedic metre system

will also guard you..see gayatri pariwar website

6. regular worship of mahalakshmi on friday

7. some kerala temples like chotanikkara bhagavathy amman temple

perform some special pujas. They normally perform the pujas on

special occasions and hence please contact them directly.

 

best wishes

sriganeshh

 

 

, Tatvamasi

<om_tatsat_om wrote:

>

> Pranav,

>

> Ok,

>

> I see a female curse due to suffering in your past

> karma.

> Prayers to Mother MahaLakshmi with fasting on Fridays

> would do you good.

> Try and patch up with your own Maha Lakshmi and try

> and lead a simple life without too many demands on

> her.

> Life is all about adjustments.

> Hope you would understand.

>

> Donate white things like White clothes, Rice etc on

> Fridays.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> --- sushmagupta51 <sushmagupta51 wrote:

>

> > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> >

> > Respected Tatvamasi,

> >

> > Thank you for your reply!

> >

> > I guess you got a wrong interpretation from my

> > email. I am not

> > blaming my wife for whatever is happening, if I was

> > blaming her I

> > will never put a post on the public newsgroup! I

> > applogize if it

> > came across like that.

> >

> > My intention was two fold:

> > 1) A learned astrologer had warned us before and had

> > indicated that

> > there are certain planets in both of our horoscopes

> > that indicate

> > series of unfortunate incidents. I wanted to

> > validate what he said.

> >

> > 2) If it is true indeed then look for remedial

> > measures if any.

> >

> > Rest of the information was for the learned members

> > to validate the

> > predictions, I tried to cast a Prashna chart however

> > am not good

> > enough to interpret it at a level where I can get

> > any kind of

> > prediction.

> >

> > I appreciate your reply!

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Pranav

> >

> >

> > , Tatvamasi

> > <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Pranav,

> > >

> > > Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your

> > family had

> > something to do with series of deaths.

> > > I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles

> > and found that

> > your chart indicates same deaths .

> > > It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for

> > that.

> > > Your not getting along with your wife must be

> > based on this

> > assumption.

> > > Please blame your karma and atone for that and

> > not the stars of

> > the girl.

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > > Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@> wrote:

> > > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> > >

> > > Respected Members,

> > >

> > > I got married in November and at that time a

> > learned astrologer

> > had told my parents that series of unfortunate

> > incidents will happen

> > if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys

> > choose to ignore the

> > advice ...

> > >

> > > On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my

> > Father's elder

> > brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed

> > away.... Two

> > months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and

> > yesterday (13/14

> > June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to

> > me) passed

> > away.....

> > >

> > > I am not sure what exactly is happening and

> > why....... I have been

> > going through this turmoil for last few months...

> > Not sure what to

> > do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after

> > marriage even

> > for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

> >

> > >

> > > I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the

> > group can throw

> > some light and suggest some remedies? My limited

> > knowledge of

> > Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

> > >

> > > Any help is appreciated.

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > > Pranav

> > >

> > > My DOB -

> > > 24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India – 77 E 09 &

> > 31 N 06

> > >

> > > My wife's DOB -

> > > 12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India – 76 E 24 &

> > 31 N 24

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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Dear Pranav,

 

No one horoscope is malefic enough to cause someone else's death if that death is not indicated in the horoscope of the person who has died.

 

They were not directly related to your wife.

 

They had their own fate.

 

Their fate would have been more influenced, if that is considered a case, by their immediate near ones like husband, children, etc, and not your wife or you.

 

Yes, if you yourself are feeling apprehensive, then the remedy part can provide you a mental solace only.

 

The best remedy here is to stand by your wife and support her in all ways. Your love and devotion will conquer all ills.

 

The last two sentences above are very important looking at the troubles which can arise between you and your wife in near future.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

[The services of this full-time astrologer are free on this group but off-group consultations are chargeable]

 

 

 

 

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sushmagupta51

Friday, 16 June, 2006 04:54

Re: Series of unexpected deaths in the family...PRANAV

 

 

!Om Gurveh Namah!

Respected Tatvamasi ji,

 

Since you have already validated the deaths, I will appreciate if

you can suggest remedies for the same.

 

Thank you for your help!

 

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

, "sushmagupta51"

<sushmagupta51 wrote:

>

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>

> Respected Tatvamasi,

>

> Thank you for your reply!

>

> I guess you got a wrong interpretation from my email. I am not

> blaming my wife for whatever is happening, if I was blaming her I

> will never put a post on the public newsgroup! I applogize if it

> came across like that.

>

> My intention was two fold:

> 1) A learned astrologer had warned us before and had indicated

that

> there are certain planets in both of our horoscopes that indicate

> series of unfortunate incidents. I wanted to validate what he

said.

>

> 2) If it is true indeed then look for remedial measures if any.

>

> Rest of the information was for the learned members to validate

the

> predictions, I tried to cast a Prashna chart however am not good

> enough to interpret it at a level where I can get any kind of

> prediction.

>

> I appreciate your reply!

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

>

> , Tatvamasi

> <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> >

> > Pranav,

> >

> > Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your family had

> something to do with series of deaths.

> > I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles and found that

> your chart indicates same deaths .

> > It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for that.

> > Your not getting along with your wife must be based on this

> assumption.

> > Please blame your karma and atone for that and not the stars

of

> the girl.

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@> wrote:

> > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> >

> > Respected Members,

> >

> > I got married in November and at that time a learned astrologer

> had told my parents that series of unfortunate incidents will

happen

> if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys choose to ignore

the

> advice ...

> >

> > On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my Father's elder

> brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed away.... Two

> months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and yesterday

(13/14

> June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to me) passed

> away.....

> >

> > I am not sure what exactly is happening and why....... I have

been

> going through this turmoil for last few months... Not sure what to

> do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after marriage even

> for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

> >

> > I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the group can throw

> some light and suggest some remedies? My limited knowledge of

> Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

> >

> > Any help is appreciated.

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Pranav

> >

> > My DOB -

> > 24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India - 77 E 09 & 31 N 06

> >

> > My wife's DOB -

> > 12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India - 76 E 24 & 31 N 24

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Ashutosh ji

 

I agree with you.

 

One more thing I will like to add - Sometimes the girl who has married to native has got such defamation related combinations..that she is looked at as "ashubha". Vice versa is also true.

 

Otherwise, why the girl is considered ashubha by the family members and society at large.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

The essence of all immorality and sin is making ourselves the center around which, we subordinate all interest.

 

 

>

> astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr

> Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:10:28 +0530

>

> Re: Series of unexpected deaths in the family...PRANAV

>

> Dear Pranav,

>

> No one horoscope is malefic enough to cause someone

> else's death if that death is not indicated in the horoscope of the

> person who has died.

>

> They were not directly related to your wife.

>

> They had their own fate.

>

> Their fate would have been more influenced, if that is considered

> a case, by their immediate near ones like husband, children, etc, and not

> your wife or you.

>

> Yes, if you yourself are feeling apprehensive, then the remedy

> part can provide you a mental solace only.

>

> The best remedy here is to stand by your wife and support her in

> all ways. Your love and devotion will conquer all ills.

>

> The last two sentences above are very important looking at the

> troubles which can arise between you and your wife in near future.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

> [The services of this full-time astrologer are free on this group but

> off-group consultations are chargeable]

>

>

>

>

> -

> sushmagupta51

>

> Friday, 16 June, 2006 04:54

> Re: Series of unexpected deaths in the family...PRANAV

>

>

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

> Respected Tatvamasi ji,

>

> Since you have already validated the deaths, I will appreciate if

> you can suggest remedies for the same.

>

> Thank you for your help!

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

> , "sushmagupta51"

> <sushmagupta51 wrote:

> >

> > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> >

> > Respected Tatvamasi,

> >

> > Thank you for your reply!

> >

> > I guess you got a wrong interpretation from my email. I am not

> > blaming my wife for whatever is happening, if I was blaming her I

> > will never put a post on the public newsgroup! I applogize if it

> > came across like that.

> >

> > My intention was two fold:

> > 1) A learned astrologer had warned us before and had indicated

> that

> > there are certain planets in both of our horoscopes that indicate

> > series of unfortunate incidents. I wanted to validate what he

> said.

> >

> > 2) If it is true indeed then look for remedial measures if any.

> >

> > Rest of the information was for the learned members to validate

> the

> > predictions, I tried to cast a Prashna chart however am not good

> > enough to interpret it at a level where I can get any kind of

> > prediction.

> >

> > I appreciate your reply!

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Pranav

> >

> >

> > , Tatvamasi

> > <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Pranav,

> > >

> > > Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your family had

> > something to do with series of deaths.

> > > I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles and found that

> > your chart indicates same deaths .

> > > It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for that.

> > > Your not getting along with your wife must be based on this

> > assumption.

> > > Please blame your karma and atone for that and not the stars

> of

> > the girl.

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > > Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@> wrote:

> > > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> > >

> > > Respected Members,

> > >

> > > I got married in November and at that time a learned astrologer

> > had told my parents that series of unfortunate incidents will

> happen

> > if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys choose to ignore

> the

> > advice ...

> > >

> > > On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my Father's elder

> > brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed away.... Two

> > months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and yesterday

> (13/14

> > June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to me) passed

> > away.....

> > >

> > > I am not sure what exactly is happening and why....... I have

> been

> > going through this turmoil for last few months... Not sure what to

> > do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after marriage even

> > for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

> > >

> > > I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the group can throw

> > some light and suggest some remedies? My limited knowledge of

> > Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

> > >

> > > Any help is appreciated.

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > > Pranav

> > >

> > > My DOB -

> > > 24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India - 77 E 09 & 31 N 06

> > >

> > > My wife's DOB -

> > > 12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India - 76 E 24 & 31 N 24

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Respected Ashutosh-ji,

Your advice is very true. I strongly believe that everyone is born with their own fate dictated by past and current karmas. I was just sent the following story which is appropriate in this regard.

>>Boy was born to a couple after eleven years of marriage. They were a

>>Loving couple and the boy was the gem of their eyes. When the boy was

>>Around two years old, one morning the husband saw a medicine bottle

>>Open.

>>

>>

>>He was late for office so he asked his wife to cap the bottle and keep

>>It in the cupboard. His wife, preoccupied in the kitchen totally forgot

>>The matter.

>>

>>

>>The boy saw the bottle and playfully went to the bottle fascinated by

>>Its colour and drank it all. It happened to be a poisonous medicine

>>Meant for adults in small dosages. When the child collapsed the mother

>>Hurried him to the hospital, where he died. The mother was stunned. She

>>Was terrified how to face her husband.

>>

>>

>>When the distraught father came to the hospital and saw the dead child ,

>>He looked at his wife and uttered just five words.

>>

>>

>>

>>QUESTIONS:

>>

>>

>>1. What were the five words?

>>2. What is the implication of this story?

>>

>>ANSWER :

>>

>>The husband just said " I am with you Darling"

>>

>>

>>The husband's totally unexpected reaction is a proactive behaviour. The

>>Child is dead. He can never be brought back to life. There is no point

>>In finding fault with the mother. Besides, if only he had taken time to

>>Keep the bottle away, this would not have happened.

>>

>>

>>No one is to be blamed. She had also lost her only child. What she

>>Needed at that moment was consolation and sympathy from the husband.

>>That is what he gave her.

>>

>>

>>If everyone can look at life with this kind of perspective, there would

>>Be much fewer problems in the world. " A journey of a thousand miles

>>Begins with a single step." Take off all your envies, jealousies,

>>Unforgiveness, selfishness, and fears. And you will find things are

>>Actually not as difficult as you think.

>>

>>

>>

>>MORAL OF THE STORY

>>

>>

>>

>>Sometimes we spend time in asking who is responsible or whom to blame,

>>Whether in a relationship, in a job or with the people we know. By this

>>Way we miss out some warmth in human relationship

 

With Regards,

Pratap

 

astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote:

Dear Pranav,

 

No one horoscope is malefic enough to cause someone else's death if that death is not indicated in the horoscope of the person who has died.

 

They were not directly related to your wife.

 

They had their own fate.

 

Their fate would have been more influenced, if that is considered a case, by their immediate near ones like husband, children, etc, and not your wife or you.

 

Yes, if you yourself are feeling apprehensive, then the remedy part can provide you a mental solace only.

 

The best remedy here is to stand by your wife and support her in all ways. Your love and devotion will conquer all ills.

 

The last two sentences above are very important looking at the troubles which can arise between you and your wife in near future.

 

 

Regards,

 

Ashutosh

 

[The services of this full-time astrologer are free on this group but off-group consultations are chargeable]

 

 

 

 

-

sushmagupta51

 

Friday, 16 June, 2006 04:54

Re: Series of unexpected deaths in the family...PRANAV

 

 

!Om Gurveh Namah!

Respected Tatvamasi ji,

 

Since you have already validated the deaths, I will appreciate if

you can suggest remedies for the same.

 

Thank you for your help!

 

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

, "sushmagupta51"

wrote:

>

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>

> Respected Tatvamasi,

>

> Thank you for your reply!

>

> I guess you got a wrong interpretation from my email. I am not

> blaming my wife for whatever is happening, if I was blaming her I

> will never put a post on the public newsgroup! I applogize if it

> came across like that.

>

> My intention was two fold:

> 1) A learned astrologer had warned us before and had indicated

that

> there are certain planets in both of our horoscopes that indicate

> series of unfortunate incidents. I wanted to validate what he

said.

>

> 2) If it is true indeed then look for remedial measures if any.

>

> Rest of the information was for the learned members to validate

the

> predictions, I tried to cast a Prashna chart however am not good

> enough to interpret it at a level where I can get any kind of

> prediction.

>

> I appreciate your reply!

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

>

> , Tatvamasi

> wrote:

> >

> > Pranav,

> >

> > Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your family had

> something to do with series of deaths.

> > I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles and found that

> your chart indicates same deaths .

> > It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for that.

> > Your not getting along with your wife must be based on this

> assumption.

> > Please blame your karma and atone for that and not the stars

of

> the girl.

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > Pranav Gupta wrote:

> > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> >

> > Respected Members,

> >

> > I got married in November and at that time a learned astrologer

> had told my parents that series of unfortunate incidents will

happen

> if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys choose to ignore

the

> advice ...

> >

> > On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my Father's elder

> brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed away.... Two

> months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and yesterday

(13/14

> June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to me) passed

> away.....

> >

> > I am not sure what exactly is happening and why....... I have

been

> going through this turmoil for last few months... Not sure what to

> do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after marriage even

> for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

> >

> > I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the group can throw

> some light and suggest some remedies? My limited knowledge of

> Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

> >

> > Any help is appreciated.

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Pranav

> >

> > My DOB -

> > 24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India - 77 E 09 & 31 N 06

> >

> > My wife's DOB -

> > 12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India - 76 E 24 & 31 N 24

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Pratap ji

 

wonderful story...many thanks for sharing it with us.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

The essence of all immorality and sin is making ourselves the center around which, we subordinate all interest.

 

 

>

> pkaneria

> Fri, 16 Jun 2006 06:39:01 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Series of unexpected deaths in the family...PRANAV

>

> Respected Ashutosh-ji,

>

> Your advice is very true. I strongly believe that everyone is born with

> their own fate dictated by past and current karmas. I was just sent the

> following story which is appropriate in this regard.

>

>

> >>Boy was born to a couple after eleven years of marriage. They were a

> >>Loving couple and the boy was the gem of their eyes. When the boy was

> >>Around two years old, one morning the husband saw a medicine bottle

> >>Open.

>>>

>>>

> >>He was late for office so he asked his wife to cap the bottle and keep

> >>It in the cupboard. His wife, preoccupied in the kitchen totally forgot

> >>The matter.

>>>

>>>

> >>The boy saw the bottle and playfully went to the bottle fascinated by

> >>Its colour and drank it all. It happened to be a poisonous medicine

> >>Meant for adults in small dosages. When the child collapsed the mother

> >>Hurried him to the hospital, where he died. The mother was stunned. She

> >>Was terrified how to face her husband.

>>>

>>>

> >>When the distraught father came to the hospital and saw the dead child

> ,

> >>He looked at his wife and uttered just five words.

>>>

>>>

>>>

> >>QUESTIONS:

>>>

>>>

> >>1. What were the five words?

> >>2. What is the implication of this story?

>>>

> >>ANSWER :

>>>

> >>The husband just said " I am with you Darling"

>>>

>>>

> >>The husband's totally unexpected reaction is a proactive behaviour. The

> >>Child is dead. He can never be brought back to life. There is no point

> >>In finding fault with the mother. Besides, if only he had taken time to

> >>Keep the bottle away, this would not have happened.

>>>

>>>

> >>No one is to be blamed. She had also lost her only child. What she

> >>Needed at that moment was consolation and sympathy from the husband.

> >>That is what he gave her.

>>>

>>>

> >>If everyone can look at life with this kind of perspective, there would

> >>Be much fewer problems in the world. " A journey of a thousand miles

> >>Begins with a single step." Take off all your envies, jealousies,

> >>Unforgiveness, selfishness, and fears. And you will find things are

> >>Actually not as difficult as you think.

>>>

>>>

>>>

> >>MORAL OF THE STORY

>>>

>>>

>>>

> >>Sometimes we spend time in asking who is responsible or whom to blame,

> >>Whether in a relationship, in a job or with the people we know. By this

> >>Way we miss out some warmth in human relationship

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

>

> astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote:

> Dear Pranav,

>

> No one horoscope is malefic enough to cause someone else's death if that

> death is not indicated in the horoscope of the person who has died.

>

> They were not directly related to your wife.

>

> They had their own fate.

>

> Their fate would have been more influenced, if that is considered a case,

> by their immediate near ones like husband, children, etc, and not your

> wife or you.

>

> Yes, if you yourself are feeling apprehensive, then the remedy part can

> provide you a mental solace only.

>

> The best remedy here is to stand by your wife and support her in all

> ways. Your love and devotion will conquer all ills.

>

> The last two sentences above are very important looking at the troubles

> which can arise between you and your wife in near future.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

> [The services of this full-time astrologer are free on this group but

> off-group consultations are chargeable]

>

>

>

>

> -

> sushmagupta51

>

> Friday, 16 June, 2006 04:54

> Re: Series of unexpected deaths in the family...PRANAV

>

>

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

> Respected Tatvamasi ji,

>

> Since you have already validated the deaths, I will appreciate if

> you can suggest remedies for the same.

>

> Thank you for your help!

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

> , "sushmagupta51"

> wrote:

>>

>> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>>

>> Respected Tatvamasi,

>>

>> Thank you for your reply!

>>

>> I guess you got a wrong interpretation from my email. I am not

>> blaming my wife for whatever is happening, if I was blaming her I

>> will never put a post on the public newsgroup! I applogize if it

>> came across like that.

>>

>> My intention was two fold:

>> 1) A learned astrologer had warned us before and had indicated

> that

>> there are certain planets in both of our horoscopes that indicate

>> series of unfortunate incidents. I wanted to validate what he

> said.

>>

>> 2) If it is true indeed then look for remedial measures if any.

>>

>> Rest of the information was for the learned members to validate

> the

>> predictions, I tried to cast a Prashna chart however am not good

>> enough to interpret it at a level where I can get any kind of

>> prediction.

>>

>> I appreciate your reply!

>>

>> Warm regards,

>> Pranav

>>

>>

>> , Tatvamasi

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Pranav,

>>>

>>> Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your family had

>> something to do with series of deaths.

>>> I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles and found that

>> your chart indicates same deaths .

>>> It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for that.

>>> Your not getting along with your wife must be based on this

>> assumption.

>>> Please blame your karma and atone for that and not the stars

> of

>> the girl.

>>> Tatvam-Asi

>>>

>>> Pranav Gupta wrote:

>>> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>>>

>>> Respected Members,

>>>

>>> I got married in November and at that time a learned astrologer

>> had told my parents that series of unfortunate incidents will

> happen

>> if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys choose to ignore

> the

>> advice ...

>>>

>>> On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my Father's elder

>> brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed away.... Two

>> months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and yesterday

> (13/14

>> June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to me) passed

>> away.....

>>>

>>> I am not sure what exactly is happening and why....... I have

> been

>> going through this turmoil for last few months... Not sure what to

>> do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after marriage even

>> for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

>>>

>>> I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the group can throw

>> some light and suggest some remedies? My limited knowledge of

>> Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

>>>

>>> Any help is appreciated.

>>>

>>> Warm regards,

>>> Pranav

>>>

>>> My DOB -

>>> 24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India - 77 E 09 & 31 N 06

>>>

>>> My wife's DOB -

>>> 12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India - 76 E 24 & 31 N 24

>>>

>>>

>>>

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Hi Tatvamasi,

I am a student who is doing research on horoscopes with specific curses like pitru,deva,brahmanas curses

I want to know how to predict a female's curses in a kundali.

As far as I am aware ,it is venus position which helps to see ,weak venus or combust venus with enemy planets like guru and /or in watery signs of cancer or scorpio

Please guide me in this interpretation

 

Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om > wrote:

Pranav,

 

Ok,

 

I see a female curse due to suffering in your past

karma.

Prayers to Mother MahaLakshmi with fasting on Fridays

would do you good.

Try and patch up with your own Maha Lakshmi and try

and lead a simple life without too many demands on

her.

Life is all about adjustments.

Hope you would understand.

 

Donate white things like White clothes, Rice etc on

Fridays.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

--- sushmagupta51 <sushmagupta51 > wrote:

 

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

>

> Respected Tatvamasi,

>

> Thank you for your reply!

>

> I guess you got a wrong interpretation from my

> email. I am not

> blaming my wife for whatever is happening, if I was

> blaming her I

> will never put a post on the public newsgroup! I

> applogize if it

> came across like that.

>

> My intention was two fold:

> 1) A learned astrologer had warned us before and had

> indicated that

> there are certain planets in both of our horoscopes

> that indicate

> series of unfortunate incidents. I wanted to

> validate what he said.

>

> 2) If it is true indeed then look for remedial

> measures if any.

>

> Rest of the information was for the learned members

> to validate the

> predictions, I tried to cast a Prashna chart however

> am not good

> enough to interpret it at a level where I can get

> any kind of

> prediction.

>

> I appreciate your reply!

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

>

> , Tatvamasi

> <om_tatsat_om wrote:

> >

> > Pranav,

> >

> > Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your

> family had

> something to do with series of deaths.

> > I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles

> and found that

> your chart indicates same deaths .

> > It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for

> that.

> > Your not getting along with your wife must be

> based on this

> assumption.

> > Please blame your karma and atone for that and

> not the stars of

> the girl.

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51 wrote:

> > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> >

> > Respected Members,

> >

> > I got married in November and at that time a

> learned astrologer

> had told my parents that series of unfortunate

> incidents will happen

> if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys

> choose to ignore the

> advice ...

> >

> > On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my

> Father's elder

> brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed

> away.... Two

> months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and

> yesterday (13/14

> June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to

> me) passed

> away.....

> >

> > I am not sure what exactly is happening and

> why....... I have been

> going through this turmoil for last few months...

> Not sure what to

> do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after

> marriage even

> for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

>

> >

> > I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the

> group can throw

> some light and suggest some remedies? My limited

> knowledge of

> Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

> >

> > Any help is appreciated.

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Pranav

> >

> > My DOB -

> > 24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India – 77 E 09 &

> 31 N 06

> >

> > My wife's DOB -

> > 12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India – 76 E 24 &

> 31 N 24

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> >

> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> protection around

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ashutosh ji,

 

Thank you for taking time to answer my query!

 

I agree with what you just say, however there are times in life when

multiple random predictions come true, at that time the faith of the

person gets shaken and at that time reiterating the beliefs helps. I

believe that I am going through one of those times.

 

Thank you for reiterating those things for me and your valuable

advice.

 

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

, "astrologerashutosh"

<astrologerashutosh wrote:

>

> Dear Pranav,

>

> No one horoscope is malefic enough to cause

someone else's death if that death is not indicated in the horoscope

of the person who has died.

>

> They were not directly related to your wife.

>

> They had their own fate.

>

> Their fate would have been more influenced, if that is

considered a case, by their immediate near ones like husband,

children, etc, and not your wife or you.

>

> Yes, if you yourself are feeling apprehensive, then the

remedy part can provide you a mental solace only.

>

> The best remedy here is to stand by your wife and support

her in all ways. Your love and devotion will conquer all ills.

>

> The last two sentences above are very important looking at

the troubles which can arise between you and your wife in near

future.

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Ashutosh

>

> [The services of this full-time astrologer are free on this group

but off-group consultations are chargeable]

>

>

>

>

> -

> sushmagupta51

>

> Friday, 16 June, 2006 04:54

> Re: Series of unexpected deaths in the

family...PRANAV

>

>

> !Om Gurveh Namah!

> Respected Tatvamasi ji,

>

> Since you have already validated the deaths, I will appreciate

if

> you can suggest remedies for the same.

>

> Thank you for your help!

>

> Warm regards,

> Pranav

>

> , "sushmagupta51"

> <sushmagupta51@> wrote:

> >

> > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> >

> > Respected Tatvamasi,

> >

> > Thank you for your reply!

> >

> > I guess you got a wrong interpretation from my email. I am not

> > blaming my wife for whatever is happening, if I was blaming

her I

> > will never put a post on the public newsgroup! I applogize if

it

> > came across like that.

> >

> > My intention was two fold:

> > 1) A learned astrologer had warned us before and had indicated

> that

> > there are certain planets in both of our horoscopes that

indicate

> > series of unfortunate incidents. I wanted to validate what he

> said.

> >

> > 2) If it is true indeed then look for remedial measures if

any.

> >

> > Rest of the information was for the learned members to

validate

> the

> > predictions, I tried to cast a Prashna chart however am not

good

> > enough to interpret it at a level where I can get any kind of

> > prediction.

> >

> > I appreciate your reply!

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > Pranav

> >

> >

> > , Tatvamasi

> > <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Pranav,

> > >

> > > Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your family had

> > something to do with series of deaths.

> > > I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles and found that

> > your chart indicates same deaths .

> > > It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for that.

> > > Your not getting along with your wife must be based on this

> > assumption.

> > > Please blame your karma and atone for that and not the stars

> of

> > the girl.

> > > Tatvam-Asi

> > >

> > > Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@> wrote:

> > > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> > >

> > > Respected Members,

> > >

> > > I got married in November and at that time a learned

astrologer

> > had told my parents that series of unfortunate incidents will

> happen

> > if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys choose to

ignore

> the

> > advice ...

> > >

> > > On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my Father's elder

> > brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed away....

Two

> > months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and yesterday

> (13/14

> > June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to me) passed

> > away.....

> > >

> > > I am not sure what exactly is happening and why....... I

have

> been

> > going through this turmoil for last few months... Not sure

what to

> > do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after marriage

even

> > for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

> > >

> > > I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the group can

throw

> > some light and suggest some remedies? My limited knowledge of

> > Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

> > >

> > > Any help is appreciated.

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > > Pranav

> > >

> > > My DOB -

> > > 24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India - 77 E 09 & 31 N 06

> > >

> > > My wife's DOB -

> > > 12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India - 76 E 24 & 31 N 24

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Dear Sriganesh ji,

 

Thank you for taking time to read and respond to my email!

 

I really appreciate the suggestions you have mentioned and will

definately do it as soon as I can.

 

Warm regards,

Pranav

 

 

, "sriganeshh"

<sriganeshh wrote:

>

> Pranav,

>

> continuing with Tatvam_Asi's mail, taking the cause as female

curse

> and considering the whole family is suffering, my suggestion is

find

> your kuladevata or family deity and try to do the puja as per your

> family traditions...first

> 2. Tarpan (argya or i am not getting equivalent word in english)

for

> ancestors is must on amavasya and pitrupaksha. If their blessings

> are there..i dont think this will happen.

> 3. there is a practice of worshipping devi by inviting married

woman

> to your house and giving them haldi, kumkum, saree and bhojan and

> getting blessings from them...(sumangli prarthana as they say in

> south)

> 4. whenever you are visiting south, go to rameshwaram (or

> thirupoolani-temple i will confirm later), ask any of pandits in

the

> beach side to do tila homa prarthana to get rid of all types of

> family curses. Alternatively you can check this out with varanasi

> side people also..

> 5. recitation of gayatri mantra slowly as per the vedic metre

system

> will also guard you..see gayatri pariwar website

> 6. regular worship of mahalakshmi on friday

> 7. some kerala temples like chotanikkara bhagavathy amman temple

> perform some special pujas. They normally perform the pujas on

> special occasions and hence please contact them directly.

>

> best wishes

> sriganeshh

>

>

> , Tatvamasi

> <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> >

> > Pranav,

> >

> > Ok,

> >

> > I see a female curse due to suffering in your past

> > karma.

> > Prayers to Mother MahaLakshmi with fasting on Fridays

> > would do you good.

> > Try and patch up with your own Maha Lakshmi and try

> > and lead a simple life without too many demands on

> > her.

> > Life is all about adjustments.

> > Hope you would understand.

> >

> > Donate white things like White clothes, Rice etc on

> > Fridays.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

> > --- sushmagupta51 <sushmagupta51@> wrote:

> >

> > > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> > >

> > > Respected Tatvamasi,

> > >

> > > Thank you for your reply!

> > >

> > > I guess you got a wrong interpretation from my

> > > email. I am not

> > > blaming my wife for whatever is happening, if I was

> > > blaming her I

> > > will never put a post on the public newsgroup! I

> > > applogize if it

> > > came across like that.

> > >

> > > My intention was two fold:

> > > 1) A learned astrologer had warned us before and had

> > > indicated that

> > > there are certain planets in both of our horoscopes

> > > that indicate

> > > series of unfortunate incidents. I wanted to

> > > validate what he said.

> > >

> > > 2) If it is true indeed then look for remedial

> > > measures if any.

> > >

> > > Rest of the information was for the learned members

> > > to validate the

> > > predictions, I tried to cast a Prashna chart however

> > > am not good

> > > enough to interpret it at a level where I can get

> > > any kind of

> > > prediction.

> > >

> > > I appreciate your reply!

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > > Pranav

> > >

> > >

> > > , Tatvamasi

> > > <om_tatsat_om@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Pranav,

> > > >

> > > > Your insinuation that your wife's coming in your

> > > family had

> > > something to do with series of deaths.

> > > > I just took help of Saptarshi Nadi principles

> > > and found that

> > > your chart indicates same deaths .

> > > > It is unfair to blame poor girl's chart for

> > > that.

> > > > Your not getting along with your wife must be

> > > based on this

> > > assumption.

> > > > Please blame your karma and atone for that and

> > > not the stars of

> > > the girl.

> > > > Tatvam-Asi

> > > >

> > > > Pranav Gupta <sushmagupta51@> wrote:

> > > > !Om Gurveh Namah!

> > > >

> > > > Respected Members,

> > > >

> > > > I got married in November and at that time a

> > > learned astrologer

> > > had told my parents that series of unfortunate

> > > incidents will happen

> > > if you go ahead with the marriage .... we guys

> > > choose to ignore the

> > > advice ...

> > > >

> > > > On the day of the marriage (Nov 17 2005) my

> > > Father's elder

> > > brothers' wife (as close to me as my Mother) passed

> > > away.... Two

> > > months (January) hence my aunt passed away ... and

> > > yesterday (13/14

> > > June) my father's elder sister (again very dear to

> > > me) passed

> > > away.....

> > > >

> > > > I am not sure what exactly is happening and

> > > why....... I have been

> > > going through this turmoil for last few months...

> > > Not sure what to

> > > do.... Moreover me and my wife never got along after

> > > marriage even

> > > for a few days... now we are on verge of divorce....

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I will appreciate if any of the learneds in the

> > > group can throw

> > > some light and suggest some remedies? My limited

> > > knowledge of

> > > Jyotish is unable to explain what is happening.

> > > >

> > > > Any help is appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Warm regards,

> > > > Pranav

> > > >

> > > > My DOB -

> > > > 24 May. 1977 - 3:45 am - Simla India – 77 E 09 &

> > > 31 N 06

> > > >

> > > > My wife's DOB -

> > > > 12 Nov. 1978 - 5:20 pm - Nangal India – 76 E 24 &

> > > 31 N 24

> > > >

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