Guest guest Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 And bye the way thats Mr. Richard to you or you can call me Jim. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I don't want to be one of Yama's dogs. I would prefer to be a pampered pet, not a working pet, also. Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:21 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers How do you know you arnt some gods pet and you just cant understand him ? Just like a dog. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I guess that is why I never became a Hari Krishna. I always wanted to be some god's pet. Barbara - james richard Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:22 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers Yeah, from the Hare Krisna's tand point all gods exhist only to serve Vishnu and that is the only reason for them to exhist at all. I dont know what to make of that. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: God knows we have a hard time, Richard, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. I, myself, drink too much coffee, and the Hare Krishnas don't drink coffee, but I don't worry too much about it. They have a big support group and people who cook for them, and most likely vegetarian cooking classes too. I probably should have joined them, but I wouldn't say that Lord Shiva is subordinate to Krishna. Barbara - james richard Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:43 PM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers I gave up the burgers but I must have ate thousands of them in my lifetime. Is there a amnesty clause in hinduism like there is in christianity? trikashaivism <Trikashaivism (AT) onetel (DOT) com> wrote: Namaste, LOL! That made me chuckle. But it's never to late to give up the burgers folks! The gates to veggie heaven are still open. Much better than being grilled like a burger LOL Om Shanti Neil , james richard <nhraddude71 wrote: > > Great, so its gonna be crouded in hell. > > narasimhaye <no_reply> wrote: Don't worry about it, you're not the only one. Lots of gurus and swamis > I've seen with my own eyes, do it too. And they were supposed to be > strictly vegetarian and already entered the Sanyas. > > , james richard <nhraddude71@> wrote: > > > > That was a heavy peace of reading. I guess im getting dragged off to > hell for all those cheese burgers I ate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/366 - Release 6/15/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Sorry Mr. Richard. Sometimes Richard is a given name also. I apologize for getting your name wrong! Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:16 PM Re: God's pets And bye the way thats Mr. Richard to you or you can call me Jim. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I don't want to be one of Yama's dogs. I would prefer to be a pampered pet, not a working pet, also. Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:21 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers How do you know you arnt some gods pet and you just cant understand him ? Just like a dog. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I guess that is why I never became a Hari Krishna. I always wanted to be some god's pet. Barbara - james richard Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:22 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers Yeah, from the Hare Krisna's tand point all gods exhist only to serve Vishnu and that is the only reason for them to exhist at all. I dont know what to make of that. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: God knows we have a hard time, Richard, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. I, myself, drink too much coffee, and the Hare Krishnas don't drink coffee, but I don't worry too much about it. They have a big support group and people who cook for them, and most likely vegetarian cooking classes too. I probably should have joined them, but I wouldn't say that Lord Shiva is subordinate to Krishna. Barbara - james richard Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:43 PM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers I gave up the burgers but I must have ate thousands of them in my lifetime. Is there a amnesty clause in hinduism like there is in christianity? trikashaivism <Trikashaivism (AT) onetel (DOT) com> wrote: Namaste, LOL! That made me chuckle. But it's never to late to give up the burgers folks! The gates to veggie heaven are still open. Much better than being grilled like a burger LOL Om Shanti Neil , james richard <nhraddude71 wrote: > > Great, so its gonna be crouded in hell. > > narasimhaye <no_reply> wrote: Don't worry about it, you're not the only one. Lots of gurus and swamis > I've seen with my own eyes, do it too. And they were supposed to be > strictly vegetarian and already entered the Sanyas. > > , james richard <nhraddude71@> wrote: > > > > That was a heavy peace of reading. I guess im getting dragged off to > hell for all those cheese burgers I ate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 ---------- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/366 - Release 6/15/06 -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Thats Ok, I have often fantasisied about being a pet like a royal emperors pug. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Sorry Mr. Richard. Sometimes Richard is a given name also. I apologize for getting your name wrong! Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:16 PM Re: God's pets And bye the way thats Mr. Richard to you or you can call me Jim. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I don't want to be one of Yama's dogs. I would prefer to be a pampered pet, not a working pet, also. Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:21 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers How do you know you arnt some gods pet and you just cant understand him ? Just like a dog. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I guess that is why I never became a Hari Krishna. I always wanted to be some god's pet. Barbara - james richard Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:22 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers Yeah, from the Hare Krisna's tand point all gods exhist only to serve Vishnu and that is the only reason for them to exhist at all. I dont know what to make of that. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: God knows we have a hard time, Richard, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. I, myself, drink too much coffee, and the Hare Krishnas don't drink coffee, but I don't worry too much about it. They have a big support group and people who cook for them, and most likely vegetarian cooking classes too. I probably should have joined them, but I wouldn't say that Lord Shiva is subordinate to Krishna. Barbara - james richard Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:43 PM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers I gave up the burgers but I must have ate thousands of them in my lifetime. Is there a amnesty clause in hinduism like there is in christianity? trikashaivism <Trikashaivism (AT) onetel (DOT) com> wrote: Namaste, LOL! That made me chuckle. But it's never to late to give up the burgers folks! The gates to veggie heaven are still open. Much better than being grilled like a burger LOL Om Shanti Neil , james richard <nhraddude71 wrote: > > Great, so its gonna be crouded in hell. > > narasimhaye <no_reply> wrote: Don't worry about it, you're not the only one. Lots of gurus and swamis > I've seen with my own eyes, do it too. And they were supposed to be > strictly vegetarian and already entered the Sanyas. > > , james richard <nhraddude71@> wrote: > > > > That was a heavy peace of reading. I guess im getting dragged off to > hell for all those cheese burgers I ate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/366 - Release 6/15/06 Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 If you want to be a pet you might as well choose one of the good gods as your owner, and try to specify that you don't want to be a working pet. I wonder if there is a line up, and we have to wait our turn, or perhaps we can graduate from Devotees School to Pet Enrollment School. I hope that they teach us to be cute there. My daughter said that she thought that I was already God's pet, but that He just didn't look after me too well. "Not cute enough, I guess," was her reason. So, if you want to be God's pet, I guess it is a good thing to put on the cuteness act (if you're not already cute). "Cuteness" sure seems to be a big factor in life. Barbara - james richard Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:59 AM Re: God's pets Thats Ok, I have often fantasisied about being a pet like a royal emperors pug. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Sorry Mr. Richard. Sometimes Richard is a given name also. I apologize for getting your name wrong! Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:16 PM Re: God's pets And bye the way thats Mr. Richard to you or you can call me Jim. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I don't want to be one of Yama's dogs. I would prefer to be a pampered pet, not a working pet, also. Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:21 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers How do you know you arnt some gods pet and you just cant understand him ? Just like a dog. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I guess that is why I never became a Hari Krishna. I always wanted to be some god's pet. Barbara - james richard Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:22 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers Yeah, from the Hare Krisna's tand point all gods exhist only to serve Vishnu and that is the only reason for them to exhist at all. I dont know what to make of that. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: God knows we have a hard time, Richard, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. I, myself, drink too much coffee, and the Hare Krishnas don't drink coffee, but I don't worry too much about it. They have a big support group and people who cook for them, and most likely vegetarian cooking classes too. I probably should have joined them, but I wouldn't say that Lord Shiva is subordinate to Krishna. Barbara - james richard Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:43 PM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers I gave up the burgers but I must have ate thousands of them in my lifetime. Is there a amnesty clause in hinduism like there is in christianity? trikashaivism <Trikashaivism (AT) onetel (DOT) com> wrote: Namaste, LOL! That made me chuckle. But it's never to late to give up the burgers folks! The gates to veggie heaven are still open. Much better than being grilled like a burger LOL Om Shanti Neil , james richard <nhraddude71 wrote: > > Great, so its gonna be crouded in hell. > > narasimhaye <no_reply> wrote: Don't worry about it, you're not the only one. Lots of gurus and swamis > I've seen with my own eyes, do it too. And they were supposed to be > strictly vegetarian and already entered the Sanyas. > > , james richard <nhraddude71@> wrote: > > > > That was a heavy peace of reading. I guess im getting dragged off to > hell for all those cheese burgers I ate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------ Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 -------- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 ---------- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/366 - Release 6/15/06 Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 -- New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. -- Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 I don't know about being a "pet." Many of the Gods have "vehicles," animals that carry them or serve them. My name means "like a lion," and I long ago determined that I was on some level Durga's lion. Being a "working pet" to the Divine puts me in mind of a saying I believe came fron Christianity. "Being in His service is perfect freedom." I'm also reminded of Hanuman, the monkey god who devoted his life to Lord Rama. -- Len j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: If you want to be a pet you might as well choose one of the good gods as your owner, and try to specify that you don't want to be a working pet. I wonder if there is a line up, and we have to wait our turn, or perhaps we can graduate from Devotees School to Pet Enrollment School. I hope that they teach us to be cute there. My daughter said that she thought that I was already God's pet, but that He just didn't look after me too well. "Not cute enough, I guess," was her reason. So, if you want to be God's pet, I guess it is a good thing to put on the cuteness act (if you're not already cute). "Cuteness" sure seems to be a big factor in life. Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Cuteness is very powerfull!. It can bring the strongest man to his kneas. Its entoxicating. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: If you want to be a pet you might as well choose one of the good gods as your owner, and try to specify that you don't want to be a working pet. I wonder if there is a line up, and we have to wait our turn, or perhaps we can graduate from Devotees School to Pet Enrollment School. I hope that they teach us to be cute there. My daughter said that she thought that I was already God's pet, but that He just didn't look after me too well. "Not cute enough, I guess," was her reason. So, if you want to be God's pet, I guess it is a good thing to put on the cuteness act (if you're not already cute). "Cuteness" sure seems to be a big factor in life. Barbara - james richard Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:59 AM Re: God's pets Thats Ok, I have often fantasisied about being a pet like a royal emperors pug. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Sorry Mr. Richard. Sometimes Richard is a given name also. I apologize for getting your name wrong! Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:16 PM Re: God's pets And bye the way thats Mr. Richard to you or you can call me Jim. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I don't want to be one of Yama's dogs. I would prefer to be a pampered pet, not a working pet, also. Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:21 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers How do you know you arnt some gods pet and you just cant understand him ? Just like a dog. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I guess that is why I never became a Hari Krishna. I always wanted to be some god's pet. Barbara - james richard Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:22 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers Yeah, from the Hare Krisna's tand point all gods exhist only to serve Vishnu and that is the only reason for them to exhist at all. I dont know what to make of that. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: God knows we have a hard time, Richard, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. I, myself, drink too much coffee, and the Hare Krishnas don't drink coffee, but I don't worry too much about it. They have a big support group and people who cook for them, and most likely vegetarian cooking classes too. I probably should have joined them, but I wouldn't say that Lord Shiva is subordinate to Krishna. Barbara - james richard Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:43 PM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers I gave up the burgers but I must have ate thousands of them in my lifetime. Is there a amnesty clause in hinduism like there is in christianity? trikashaivism <Trikashaivism (AT) onetel (DOT) com> wrote: Namaste, LOL! That made me chuckle. But it's never to late to give up the burgers folks! The gates to veggie heaven are still open. Much better than being grilled like a burger LOL Om Shanti Neil , james richard <nhraddude71 wrote: > > Great, so its gonna be crouded in hell. > > narasimhaye <no_reply> wrote: Don't worry about it, you're not the only one. Lots of gurus and swamis > I've seen with my own eyes, do it too. And they were supposed to be > strictly vegetarian and already entered the Sanyas. > > , james richard <nhraddude71@> wrote: > > > > That was a heavy peace of reading. I guess im getting dragged off to > hell for all those cheese burgers I ate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/366 - Release 6/15/06 Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Dear Len, You are very lucky to be Durga's Lion, although that is still a working pet.. I had something more like a bird in mind; parrots are nice. It's very important, though, in choosing a god, if you are going to be a pet, to choose a god who is a vegetarian! --certainly don't want to be a fish, even though Lord Vishnu became one. Still don't know how to be God's pet (like teacher's pet). In my next life, perhaps I will be a parrot, and perhaps Lord Shiva will let me be His pet; then I can sit on His shoulder, as Ganga sits in His hair. Barbara - Len Rosenberg Saturday, June 17, 2006 1:21 PM Re: God's pets I don't know about being a "pet." Many of the Gods have "vehicles," animals that carry them or serve them. My name means "like a lion," and I long ago determined that I was on some level Durga's lion. Being a "working pet" to the Divine puts me in mind of a saying I believe came fron Christianity. "Being in His service is perfect freedom." I'm also reminded of Hanuman, the monkey god who devoted his life to Lord Rama. -- Len j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: If you want to be a pet you might as well choose one of the good gods as your owner, and try to specify that you don't want to be a working pet. I wonder if there is a line up, and we have to wait our turn, or perhaps we can graduate from Devotees School to Pet Enrollment School. I hope that they teach us to be cute there. My daughter said that she thought that I was already God's pet, but that He just didn't look after me too well. "Not cute enough, I guess," was her reason. So, if you want to be God's pet, I guess it is a good thing to put on the cuteness act (if you're not already cute). "Cuteness" sure seems to be a big factor in life. -- Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 Problem is, we don't all have it. How to get it, that's the problem. Makes me mad, sometimes. Seems God makes His nondevotees cute, and His devotees, noncute, like me. Somehow, doesn't seem fair, except perhaps we're not so liable to AIDS, no one chasing us like we're going out of season, and no one respecting us or anything that we know, just because we're not the cutest little things that every lived. In any case, if I become a cute parrot, I can sit on Lord Shiva's shoulder, get good treats from Him (fruits and other things), make a nest in His hair, play with the river Ganges, bite his earlobes, and read His email, without breaking into His computer. (I didn't say I wanted to be a good bird, only that I wanted to have a good God for my owner). I can play with His hair, too, which will make Him sleepy, or perhaps put Him into a trance. He'll like that. But reading His email will be the greatest. I'll learn lots of interesting things. And maybe I'll be able to peck at the keys, and answer His email when He isn't looking. Such a naughty bird; I hope He'll be able to put up with me. I can take a bath every day in the river Ganges, and if His snake becomes to vicious, I can give it a few nips. Will raise His status also, because people will not say that He wears a snake (yuchk), but that He has a cute parrot also. Barbara Barbara - james richard Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:00 PM Re: God's pets Cuteness is very powerfull!. It can bring the strongest man to his kneas. Its entoxicating. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: If you want to be a pet you might as well choose one of the good gods as your owner, and try to specify that you don't want to be a working pet. I wonder if there is a line up, and we have to wait our turn, or perhaps we can graduate from Devotees School to Pet Enrollment School. I hope that they teach us to be cute there. My daughter said that she thought that I was already God's pet, but that He just didn't look after me too well. "Not cute enough, I guess," was her reason. So, if you want to be God's pet, I guess it is a good thing to put on the cuteness act (if you're not already cute). "Cuteness" sure seems to be a big factor in life. Barbara - james richard Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:59 AM Re: God's pets Thats Ok, I have often fantasisied about being a pet like a royal emperors pug. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Sorry Mr. Richard. Sometimes Richard is a given name also. I apologize for getting your name wrong! Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:16 PM Re: God's pets And bye the way thats Mr. Richard to you or you can call me Jim. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I don't want to be one of Yama's dogs. I would prefer to be a pampered pet, not a working pet, also. Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:21 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers How do you know you arnt some gods pet and you just cant understand him ? Just like a dog. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I guess that is why I never became a Hari Krishna. I always wanted to be some god's pet. Barbara - james richard Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:22 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers Yeah, from the Hare Krisna's tand point all gods exhist only to serve Vishnu and that is the only reason for them to exhist at all. I dont know what to make of that. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: God knows we have a hard time, Richard, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. I, myself, drink too much coffee, and the Hare Krishnas don't drink coffee, but I don't worry too much about it. They have a big support group and people who cook for them, and most likely vegetarian cooking classes too. I probably should have joined them, but I wouldn't say that Lord Shiva is subordinate to Krishna. Barbara - james richard Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:43 PM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers I gave up the burgers but I must have ate thousands of them in my lifetime. Is there a amnesty clause in hinduism like there is in christianity? trikashaivism <Trikashaivism (AT) onetel (DOT) com> wrote: Namaste, LOL! That made me chuckle. But it's never to late to give up the burgers folks! The gates to veggie heaven are still open. Much better than being grilled like a burger LOL Om Shanti Neil , james richard <nhraddude71 wrote: > > Great, so its gonna be crouded in hell. > > narasimhaye <no_reply> wrote: Don't worry about it, you're not the only one. Lots of gurus and swamis > I've seen with my own eyes, do it too. And they were supposed to be > strictly vegetarian and already entered the Sanyas. > > , james richard <nhraddude71@> wrote: > > > > That was a heavy peace of reading. I guess im getting dragged off to > hell for all those cheese burgers I ate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 ------ Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 -------- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/366 - Release 6/15/06 ---------- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 -- Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. -- Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta. -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2006 Report Share Posted June 18, 2006 looks mean nothing to a true deva, as looks are not the real person, or plant or whatever. if that was true beauty would mean intelligence, funny and ugly would mean bad. Aum. Summa Iru! Summa Iru!! Summa Iru!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Perhaps, but how many true devas are there? I live in the West where men are men. Barbara - Padmakara Sunday, June 18, 2006 3:33 PM Re: God's pets looks mean nothing to a true deva, as looks are not the real person, or plant or whatever. if that was true beauty would mean intelligence, funny and ugly would mean bad. Aum. Summa Iru! Summa Iru!! Summa Iru!!! -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I think you r looking at it all wrong Barb. Cuteness is a curse in this life because it is something thst fades with time. Really good looking people are always self absorbed and totally caught up in this world of illusion. It cracks me up when i see girls that used to look like goddeses when i went to high school with them trying to hold onto there looks with make up and constant working out but you can still see there fasad crumbling in the grip of time and all that shows through is the ugliness of there petty soul. I believe it was Jefferson Airplane that used to sing "Your only pretty as you feal inside. As for Shiva wearing the snake. I think there is some sybolism there like that even the deadly cobra is made humble and calm in the precence of the lord. Just about anybody can get away with wearing a parrot on there shoulder but it takes someone with true inner peace to wear the cobra without being killed by it. Be careful also . You heard what he did to his son for not letting him in the house? You can imagine what he will do to the parrot he catches reading his email. "Look Uma , Ive made you a new feather duster". Jim j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Problem is, we don't all have it. How to get it, that's the problem. Makes me mad, sometimes. Seems God makes His nondevotees cute, and His devotees, noncute, like me. Somehow, doesn't seem fair, except perhaps we're not so liable to AIDS, no one chasing us like we're going out of season, and no one respecting us or anything that we know, just because we're not the cutest little things that every lived. In any case, if I become a cute parrot, I can sit on Lord Shiva's shoulder, get good treats from Him (fruits and other things), make a nest in His hair, play with the river Ganges, bite his earlobes, and read His email, without breaking into His computer. (I didn't say I wanted to be a good bird, only that I wanted to have a good God for my owner). I can play with His hair, too, which will make Him sleepy, or perhaps put Him into a trance. He'll like that. But reading His email will be the greatest. I'll learn lots of interesting things. And maybe I'll be able to peck at the keys, and answer His email when He isn't looking. Such a naughty bird; I hope He'll be able to put up with me. I can take a bath every day in the river Ganges, and if His snake becomes to vicious, I can give it a few nips. Will raise His status also, because people will not say that He wears a snake (yuchk), but that He has a cute parrot also. Barbara Barbara - james richard Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:00 PM Re: God's pets Cuteness is very powerfull!. It can bring the strongest man to his kneas. Its entoxicating. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: If you want to be a pet you might as well choose one of the good gods as your owner, and try to specify that you don't want to be a working pet. I wonder if there is a line up, and we have to wait our turn, or perhaps we can graduate from Devotees School to Pet Enrollment School. I hope that they teach us to be cute there. My daughter said that she thought that I was already God's pet, but that He just didn't look after me too well. "Not cute enough, I guess," was her reason. So, if you want to be God's pet, I guess it is a good thing to put on the cuteness act (if you're not already cute). "Cuteness" sure seems to be a big factor in life. Barbara - james richard Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:59 AM Re: God's pets Thats Ok, I have often fantasisied about being a pet like a royal emperors pug. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Sorry Mr. Richard. Sometimes Richard is a given name also. I apologize for getting your name wrong! Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:16 PM Re: God's pets And bye the way thats Mr. Richard to you or you can call me Jim. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I don't want to be one of Yama's dogs. I would prefer to be a pampered pet, not a working pet, also. Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:21 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers How do you know you arnt some gods pet and you just cant understand him ? Just like a dog. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I guess that is why I never became a Hari Krishna. I always wanted to be some god's pet. Barbara - james richard Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:22 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers Yeah, from the Hare Krisna's tand point all gods exhist only to serve Vishnu and that is the only reason for them to exhist at all. I dont know what to make of that. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: God knows we have a hard time, Richard, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. I, myself, drink too much coffee, and the Hare Krishnas don't drink coffee, but I don't worry too much about it. They have a big support group and people who cook for them, and most likely vegetarian cooking classes too. I probably should have joined them, but I wouldn't say that Lord Shiva is subordinate to Krishna. Barbara - james richard Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:43 PM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers I gave up the burgers but I must have ate thousands of them in my lifetime. Is there a amnesty clause in hinduism like there is in christianity? trikashaivism <Trikashaivism (AT) onetel (DOT) com> wrote: Namaste, LOL! That made me chuckle. But it's never to late to give up the burgers folks! The gates to veggie heaven are still open. Much better than being grilled like a burger LOL Om Shanti Neil , james richard <nhraddude71 wrote: > > Great, so its gonna be crouded in hell. > > narasimhaye <no_reply> wrote: Don't worry about it, you're not the only one. 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Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 You're very funny. Well, the reason the girls try to hold on to their looks is because that is what was valued in them earlier. Well, I guess Uma can use the feather duster to dust the universe when He turns all of us to ash. A devotee once told me that it is a good thing for a demon to be killed by God, that He only kills demons through love, and that the demon attains (I think it is liberation, but at least a good state after death) by being killed by God. It is OK to fight with Him. It's another form of, I think, "Wham, bham, Thank you, ma'am." Ganesh was eternal, and could not be killed; perhaps in one sense all of us are eternal; I like the feather duster idea, though. Never thought of that. Sure will make a pretty one, so I'm sure Uma will not throw it out, and She will be able to use it to dust His computer, or He can use it to dust His own computer, if they have equal rights. A Christian said to me once, "How am I going to find my parents when I get to heaven"?, and, I thought, "Well, just put an ad in the newspaper." Not all beautiful women have ugly souls; some of them have beautiful souls, also. A beautiful body and a beautiful soul are not mutually exclusive. If, however, a beautiful soul is more important, tell me why it is the beautiful body men for which men always seem to go? The gods were lined up hoping to marry Aphrodite, and it wasn't because of the beauty of Her soul, which no one mentioned, only the beauty of Her body. Barbara - james richard Monday, June 19, 2006 6:08 AM Re: God's pets I think you r looking at it all wrong Barb. Cuteness is a curse in this life because it is something thst fades with time. Really good looking people are always self absorbed and totally caught up in this world of illusion. It cracks me up when i see girls that used to look like goddeses when i went to high school with them trying to hold onto there looks with make up and constant working out but you can still see there fasad crumbling in the grip of time and all that shows through is the ugliness of there petty soul. I believe it was Jefferson Airplane that used to sing "Your only pretty as you feal inside. As for Shiva wearing the snake. I think there is some sybolism there like that even the deadly cobra is made humble and calm in the precence of the lord. Just about anybody can get away with wearing a parrot on there shoulder but it takes someone with true inner peace to wear the cobra without being killed by it. Be careful also . You heard what he did to his son for not letting him in the house? You can imagine what he will do to the parrot he catches reading his email. "Look Uma , Ive made you a new feather duster". Jim j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Problem is, we don't all have it. How to get it, that's the problem. Makes me mad, sometimes. Seems God makes His nondevotees cute, and His devotees, noncute, like me. Somehow, doesn't seem fair, except perhaps we're not so liable to AIDS, no one chasing us like we're going out of season, and no one respecting us or anything that we know, just because we're not the cutest little things that every lived. In any case, if I become a cute parrot, I can sit on Lord Shiva's shoulder, get good treats from Him (fruits and other things), make a nest in His hair, play with the river Ganges, bite his earlobes, and read His email, without breaking into His computer. (I didn't say I wanted to be a good bird, only that I wanted to have a good God for my owner). I can play with His hair, too, which will make Him sleepy, or perhaps put Him into a trance. He'll like that. But reading His email will be the greatest. I'll learn lots of interesting things. And maybe I'll be able to peck at the keys, and answer His email when He isn't looking. Such a naughty bird; I hope He'll be able to put up with me. I can take a bath every day in the river Ganges, and if His snake becomes to vicious, I can give it a few nips. Will raise His status also, because people will not say that He wears a snake (yuchk), but that He has a cute parrot also. Barbara Barbara - james richard Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:00 PM Re: God's pets Cuteness is very powerfull!. It can bring the strongest man to his kneas. Its entoxicating. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: If you want to be a pet you might as well choose one of the good gods as your owner, and try to specify that you don't want to be a working pet. I wonder if there is a line up, and we have to wait our turn, or perhaps we can graduate from Devotees School to Pet Enrollment School. I hope that they teach us to be cute there. My daughter said that she thought that I was already God's pet, but that He just didn't look after me too well. "Not cute enough, I guess," was her reason. So, if you want to be God's pet, I guess it is a good thing to put on the cuteness act (if you're not already cute).. "Cuteness" sure seems to be a big factor in life. Barbara - james richard Saturday, June 17, 2006 5:59 AM Re: God's pets Thats Ok, I have often fantasisied about being a pet like a royal emperors pug. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Sorry Mr. Richard. Sometimes Richard is a given name also. I apologize for getting your name wrong! Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 1:16 PM Re: God's pets And bye the way thats Mr. Richard to you or you can call me Jim. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I don't want to be one of Yama's dogs. I would prefer to be a pampered pet, not a working pet, also. Barbara - james richard Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:21 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers How do you know you arnt some gods pet and you just cant understand him ? Just like a dog. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Richard, I guess that is why I never became a Hari Krishna. I always wanted to be some god's pet. Barbara - james richard Wednesday, June 14, 2006 7:22 AM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers Yeah, from the Hare Krisna's tand point all gods exhist only to serve Vishnu and that is the only reason for them to exhist at all. I dont know what to make of that. j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: God knows we have a hard time, Richard, and I wouldn't worry too much about it. I, myself, drink too much coffee, and the Hare Krishnas don't drink coffee, but I don't worry too much about it. They have a big support group and people who cook for them, and most likely vegetarian cooking classes too. I probably should have joined them, but I wouldn't say that Lord Shiva is subordinate to Krishna. Barbara - james richard Tuesday, June 13, 2006 8:43 PM Re: Re: Cheeseburgers I gave up the burgers but I must have ate thousands of them in my lifetime. Is there a amnesty clause in hinduism like there is in christianity? trikashaivism <Trikashaivism (AT) onetel (DOT) com> wrote: Namaste, LOL! That made me chuckle. But it's never to late to give up the burgers folks! The gates to veggie heaven are still open. Much better than being grilled like a burger LOL Om Shanti Neil , james richard <nhraddude71.> wrote: > > Great, so its gonna be crouded in hell. > > narasimhaye <no_reply> wrote: Don't worry about it, you're not the only one. Lots of gurus and swamis > I've seen with my own eyes, do it too. And they were supposed to be > strictly vegetarian and already entered the Sanyas. > > , james richard <nhraddude71@> wrote: > > > > That was a heavy peace of reading. I guess im getting dragged off to > hell for all those cheese burgers I ate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 ---- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/362 - Release 6/12/06 ------ Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/366 - Release 6/15/06 -------- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 ---------- New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. ---------- Get on board. You're invited to try the new Mail Beta. ---------- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Everyone is raving about the all-new Mail Beta. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.0/368 - Release 6/16/06 -- Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -- How low will we go? 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Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Kama, the god of love, often rides on a parrot (a working pet -- you wouldn't want the job!). The goddess Matangi, one of the Ten Wisdom Goddesses, often has green parrots seated on her shoulders. Matangi is a Dark, Tamasic form of Sarasvati -- dark blue-green complexion, red dress, from a Tribal caste, playing a vina studded with rubies, and holding noose and goad (and sometimes a wine-cup made from a conch shell, or a skull-cup!). And she's an aspect of Shiva's Shakti, so you could visit Him, and argue with the cobra on his shoulder. -- Len j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Problem is, we don't all have it. How to get it, that's the problem. Makes me mad, sometimes. Seems God makes His nondevotees cute, and His devotees, noncute, like me. Somehow, doesn't seem fair, except perhaps we're not so liable to AIDS, no one chasing us like we're going out of season, and no one respecting us or anything that we know, just because we're not the cutest little things that every lived. In any case, if I become a cute parrot, I can sit on Lord Shiva's shoulder, get good treats from Him (fruits and other things), make a nest in His hair, play with the river Ganges, bite his earlobes, and read His email, without breaking into His computer. (I didn't say I wanted to be a good bird, only that I wanted to have a good God for my owner). I can play with His hair, too, which will make Him sleepy, or perhaps put Him into a trance. He'll like that. But reading His email will be the greatest. I'll learn lots of interesting things. And maybe I'll be able to peck at the keys, and answer His email when He isn't looking. Such a naughty bird; I hope He'll be able to put up with me. I can take a bath every day in the river Ganges, and if His snake becomes to vicious, I can give it a few nips. Will raise His status also, because people will not say that He wears a snake (yuchk), but that He has a cute parrot also. New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Yes, either would do, I'd even be a working pet if I could carry Kama, but then I might become a bit of a voyeur. Kama might not like that How, however, does one get Pet Status, not just Devotee Status? There were most likely millions of parrots in the world (my daughter and I have two), but only a few of them ever make Pet Status of the gods. Athena had a snowy owl--very nice. Somehow, I just can't believe Lord Shiva would make His pet parrot into a feather duster. I sat on mine accidently once and thought that I had killed him. One of my parrots died, and I cried constantly for three days, and prayed and prayed for it. Then I saw it in Lord Shiva's hands, and He let it go free, and I saw it fly away from His hands. I wondered what that meant, but maybe it means that it obtained paradise. I guess there must be pets there; otherwise, what is the point of going there? I still want to be a parrot and nibble His ear, though, for making me go through all these stupid births! Barbara - Len Rosenberg Monday, June 19, 2006 9:49 AM Re: God's pets Kama, the god of love, often rides on a parrot (a working pet -- you wouldn't want the job!). The goddess Matangi, one of the Ten Wisdom Goddesses, often has green parrots seated on her shoulders. Matangi is a Dark, Tamasic form of Sarasvati -- dark blue-green complexion, red dress, from a Tribal caste, playing a vina studded with rubies, and holding noose and goad (and sometimes a wine-cup made from a conch shell, or a skull-cup!). And she's an aspect of Shiva's Shakti, so you could visit Him, and argue with the cobra on his shoulder. -- Len j <barbjs (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Problem is, we don't all have it. How to get it, that's the problem. Makes me mad, sometimes. Seems God makes His nondevotees cute, and His devotees, noncute, like me. Somehow, doesn't seem fair, except perhaps we're not so liable to AIDS, no one chasing us like we're going out of season, and no one respecting us or anything that we know, just because we're not the cutest little things that every lived. In any case, if I become a cute parrot, I can sit on Lord Shiva's shoulder, get good treats from Him (fruits and other things), make a nest in His hair, play with the river Ganges, bite his earlobes, and read His email, without breaking into His computer. (I didn't say I wanted to be a good bird, only that I wanted to have a good God for my owner). I can play with His hair, too, which will make Him sleepy, or perhaps put Him into a trance. He'll like that. But reading His email will be the greatest. I'll learn lots of interesting things. And maybe I'll be able to peck at the keys, and answer His email when He isn't looking. Such a naughty bird; I hope He'll be able to put up with me. I can take a bath every day in the river Ganges, and if His snake becomes to vicious, I can give it a few nips. Will raise His status also, because people will not say that He wears a snake (yuchk), but that He has a cute parrot also. -- New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.1/369 - Release 6/19/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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